India is expected to support Pakistan’s long-standing bid for BRICS membership at summit in Kazan

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India is expected to support Pakistan’s long-standing bid for BRICS membership at the upcoming summit in Kazan, Russia, marking a significant shift in New Delhi’s stance, according to Indian media sources.

The 16th BRICS Summit, scheduled to be held on October 22-23, will focus on expanding the bloc’s membership and could see Pakistan being inducted into the group, which already represents over 45% of the world’s population and 28% of the global economy.

India had previously opposed Pakistan’s inclusion in the BRICS grouping, citing concerns over Islamabad’s economic instability and its potential to bring in additional geopolitical challenges.

However, sources suggest that a shift in consensus among existing BRICS members, particularly Russia and China, has paved the way for India’s reconsideration of its position.

The decision is expected to be formalised at the Kazan summit, where Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be present alongside leaders from BRICS member countries.

The summit, chaired by Russia, will also welcome new members like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Iran, as part of a broader push to strengthen the group’s influence in the Global South.

 
I think it's just a drama, actually Russia wants Pakistan in. Can't let India spin this so called favor at expense of IOK.
 
You need consensus to get into BRICS.. So if India doesn't support Pakistan's bid, Pakistan won't get in.

This report may or may not be true.

The BRICS is and has been a huge fraud. A lot of pomp and show with nothing to show for it.

The BRICS bank (or the New Development Bank) has gone nowhere and has hardly lent any money
The BRICS contingent reserve hasn't been tested yet and I serious doubt it's effectiveness
The BRICS cable was a nonstarter

Basically it's only been symbolism as an alternative to US influence.

I think it's perfectly possible India's agreed to support Pakistan's membership under some minor concessions by Russia and China since we know the whole thing's a farce anyway. Things are slowly softening between India and Pakistan and this is kind of pointless symbolic gesture that shows progress in ties without really meaning anything.

As I said, watch for these kind of small gestures on both sides as slow and steady buildup towards real talks.
 
We don’t want the BRICS to become P...ricks so we must wait till Pakistan becomes a responsible democracy before we let them into what is set to become the worlds most important group of non West aligned independent countries.
First line made LOL
 
We don’t want the BRICS to become P...ricks so we must wait till Pakistan becomes a responsible democracy before we let them into what is set to become the worlds most important group of non West aligned independent countries.
Diluting the value of Brics by adding countries that are struggling to survive.
 
If India really accedes to it then we can consider Indian FM recent visit as a victory otherwise it was just a flop conference with nothing to gain
 
How will BRICS benefit Pakistan… serious question. The country is run by crooks, the common man is a crook who will con you at any given chance. This membership will only make the cabal richer whilst the ordinary folk drown in misery and austerity
 
No mention of Pakistan here

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Why is the summit significant for Putin?

Since Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the country and its leader have grown isolated.

A month after the start of the invasion, Canada, the European Union, Japan, New Zealand, Taiwan, the United Kingdom and the US unveiled a slew of sanctions on Russian banks, oil refineries and military exports. There have been more sanctions on Russia and its allies since.

The ICC arrest warrant for Putin also means he cannot travel to countries that are signatories to the Rome Statute, a UN treaty that established the court, without risking arrest. In 2023, he skipped the BRICS summit in South Africa, which is a party to the treaty, amid pressure on Pretoria to detain the Russian leader if he were to attend.

Western leaders are also largely unwilling to join Putin in any multilateral setting. Putin skipped the G20 summit in India last year even though New Delhi is not a party to the Rome Statute.

Against that backdrop, “Putin is hoping for a big PR win against Ukraine and the West, trying to send a message that despite the war, and Western sanctions, Russia still has plenty of international partners willing to interact with Russia and trade,” Timothy Ash, an associate fellow in the Russia and Eurasia programme at Chatham House, told Al Jazeera.

Other experts agree.

“The Kazan summit has great symbolic and practical importance for the Putin regime,” Angela Stent, the director of the Center for Eurasian, Russian and East European Studies at Georgetown University, said in comments to the Brookings Institute. “The summit will demonstrate that, far from being isolated, Russia has important partners like India, China and other major emerging powers.”

The expanded BRICS group now represents about 45 percent of the world’s population and 25 percent of the global gross domestic product (GDP).

Source: Al Jazeera
 
No mention of Pakistan here

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Why is the summit significant for Putin?

Since Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the country and its leader have grown isolated.

A month after the start of the invasion, Canada, the European Union, Japan, New Zealand, Taiwan, the United Kingdom and the US unveiled a slew of sanctions on Russian banks, oil refineries and military exports. There have been more sanctions on Russia and its allies since.

The ICC arrest warrant for Putin also means he cannot travel to countries that are signatories to the Rome Statute, a UN treaty that established the court, without risking arrest. In 2023, he skipped the BRICS summit in South Africa, which is a party to the treaty, amid pressure on Pretoria to detain the Russian leader if he were to attend.

Western leaders are also largely unwilling to join Putin in any multilateral setting. Putin skipped the G20 summit in India last year even though New Delhi is not a party to the Rome Statute.

Against that backdrop, “Putin is hoping for a big PR win against Ukraine and the West, trying to send a message that despite the war, and Western sanctions, Russia still has plenty of international partners willing to interact with Russia and trade,” Timothy Ash, an associate fellow in the Russia and Eurasia programme at Chatham House, told Al Jazeera.

Other experts agree.

“The Kazan summit has great symbolic and practical importance for the Putin regime,” Angela Stent, the director of the Center for Eurasian, Russian and East European Studies at Georgetown University, said in comments to the Brookings Institute. “The summit will demonstrate that, far from being isolated, Russia has important partners like India, China and other major emerging powers.”

The expanded BRICS group now represents about 45 percent of the world’s population and 25 percent of the global gross domestic product (GDP).

Source: Al Jazeera

Is Pakistan even free to join BRICS? The Americans have always had a massive influence on your country.
 
They can under Chinese pressure.

Really?
The US deep state can topple any Pakistani government as proven time and again. Who would dare to go against them in Pakistan and expect to survive that hostility.

They’ve even held on to MBS by all their abilities
 
Really?
The US deep state can topple any Pakistani government as proven time and again. Who would dare to go against them in Pakistan and expect to survive that hostility.

They’ve even held on to MBS by all their abilities
Yep but leader like Khan could take a stand or an upright establishment chief in future. Anyway US couldn't stop the induction to SCO before so this too won't be that difficult.
 
How will BRICS benefit Pakistan… serious question. The country is run by crooks, the common man is a crook who will con you at any given chance. This membership will only make the cabal richer whilst the ordinary folk drown in misery and austerity
Bargaining power against West, maybe a different Payment system in future.
 
I guess the news is out that Pakistan’s request was denied. Dont think it’s solely Indias decision even though might have been the main reason. I guess it was a mutual decision by all founding members (India, China, Russia, Brazil and South Africa) that it wasn’t that important of a topic to discuss right now.
 
Bargaining power against West, maybe a different Payment system in future.
The country needs to work on itself, a huge, huge task and one thats currently nigh impossible. Maybe in another 100 years, we will either have no Pakistan or one which will start resembling India in a Positive way with education, innovation, investment and inclusion.

They should look to BRICS after, although its a good start.
 
Pakistan must not feel discouraged by this. They have to work on themselves and become a responsible and reliable country. I’m sure in future their case will be reviewed again by BRICS founding nations.
 
India did a self goal by destorying its relations with all neighbours, so now they have to go back to Pakistan. Could be true, CHina might have placed this condition for them if they want to ease border tensions.
 
Diluting the value of Brics by adding countries that are struggling to survive.
Not exactly. You really must learn to look deeper. Every one of the new members has something or the other to offer, and are important in their own way.
Saudi : Big economy and oil
Iran: Oil and strategic location
Egypt: Suez Canal
UAE: Big economy, oil and important financial centre

Only Ethiopia has nothing to offer, at least ata first glance. But there could be things we don't know about Ethiopia.
 
India did a self goal by destorying its relations with all neighbours, so now they have to go back to Pakistan. Could be true, CHina might have placed this condition for them if they want to ease border tensions.
india did not back Pakistan .it was a fake story run by Pakistan media .
 
Not exactly. You really must learn to look deeper. Every one of the new members has something or the other to offer, and are important in their own way.
Saudi : Big economy and oil
Iran: Oil and strategic location
Egypt: Suez Canal
UAE: Big economy, oil and important financial centre

Only Ethiopia has nothing to offer, at least ata first glance. But there could be things we don't know about Ethiopia.
I was specifically talking about Pakistan.
Pakistan is a Net Importer. May be BRICS nations can sell more stuff to Pakistan and make money.

India and China are still rivals with outstanding border issues. I know recently some improvements have been made regarding border issues. Even then, will India give up support to Dalai Lama and Tibetan refugees? Can CCP be trusted with any of the accords that will be signed?

By adding Pakistan to the group, it is just another broken wheel for the group. Until Kashmir issue is resolved, BRICS can never function to its full potential.

Any Organization can only work if all the members agree with the goals of it. With internal squabbles and rivalry, it will never realize full potential. In this case, BRICS is supposed to challenge Western nations. With too many broken pieces, it cannot.

Only time will tell. I don't have much hopes on this.
 
The country needs to work on itself, a huge, huge task and one thats currently nigh impossible. Maybe in another 100 years, we will either have no Pakistan or one which will start resembling India in a Positive way with education, innovation, investment and inclusion.

They should look to BRICS after, although its a good start.
They(Pakistan) should be able to do both..if India had waited for it to become economically stable after 1989 it would had taken years to join any org.
 
India did a self goal by destorying its relations with all neighbours, so now they have to go back to Pakistan. Could be true, CHina might have placed this condition for them if they want to ease border tensions.
what news are you reading? Turkey and Pakistan both got rejected from Brics. Brics is not like NATO where there is one big shot.only unanimous decisions are accepted and looks like both Turkey and Pak got turned down. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out who might have had the objection.

Also India and China seems to have made some compromises atleast for semantics in this summit.
 
The BRICS is and has been a huge fraud. A lot of pomp and show with nothing to show for it.

The BRICS bank (or the New Development Bank) has gone nowhere and has hardly lent any money
The BRICS contingent reserve hasn't been tested yet and I serious doubt it's effectiveness
The BRICS cable was a nonstarter

Basically it's only been symbolism as an alternative to US influence.

I think it's perfectly possible India's agreed to support Pakistan's membership under some minor concessions by Russia and China since we know the whole thing's a farce anyway. Things are slowly softening between India and Pakistan and this is kind of pointless symbolic gesture that shows progress in ties without really meaning anything.

As I said, watch for these kind of small gestures on both sides as slow and steady buildup towards real talks.

You fell for another planted news of pakistani media.

India isn't going to cede anything to Pakistan. It doesn't need to.
 
what news are you reading? Turkey and Pakistan both got rejected from Brics. Brics is not like NATO where there is one big shot.only unanimous decisions are accepted and looks like both Turkey and Pak got turned down. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out who might have had the objection.

Also India and China seems to have made some compromises atleast for semantics in this summit.
Where is the news they got rejected?
 
You fell for another planted news of pakistani media.

India isn't going to cede anything to Pakistan. It doesn't need to.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi Wednesday said India was ready to welcome more “partner countries” to BRICS as long as all decisions in this regard were taken “unanimously”.

Making a veiled reference to Russia and China’s tacit support of Pakistan’s entry into the nine-member grouping, Modi remarked at the closed plenary session of the 16th BRICS summit that the views of the founding members of BRICS should be respected. Apart from Russia and China, the other two founding countries are India and Brazil.

The Prime Minister, who is in Russia’s Kazan for the conclave, outlined New Delhi’s position on the expansion of the organisation, which welcomed four new members this year—Ethiopia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Iran and Egypt.

“The guiding principles, standards, criteria and procedures that we adopted in the Johannesburg Summit should be followed by all member and partner countries,” Modi said. Among other things, these principles had emphasised the need to make all decisions by consensus in the expansion process, with views of founding members respected.

There are over 30 countries interested in joining the organisation, including Colombia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Turkey. The grouping founded by Brazil, Russia, India and China welcomed South Africa in 2011, and has now expanded further with the addition of the four new members.

It is understood that Russia and China are in support of Islamabad’s interest to join, with Russian deputy prime minister Alexey Overchuk publicly backing Pakistan’s bid in September.

However, ties between India and Pakistan have been historically fraught, with the two countries currently having no diplomatic representation at the high commissioner level in either country.

‘No double standards on terrorism’
At the closed plenary, Modi also called for a “single minded” focus on combating terrorism and terror financing by BRICS members, adding there was “no place for double standards” on this issue. “We need to take active steps to stop radicalisation of youth in our countries,” added the Prime Minister.

Incidentally, China last year blocked a UN move to designate Pakistan-based LeT terrorist Sajid Mir, wanted for his involvement in the 26/11 Mumbai terrorist attacks, as a “global terrorist”.

Modi reiterated India’s position for “dialogue and diplomacy” and not war—a reference to his comments during the bilateral meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, where he had pushed for diplomacy to end Moscow’s war with Ukraine.

UN & WTO reform
The prime minister’s speech also underscored that the world was looking towards BRICS and that it should be “people-centric” to show it was not a “divisive organisation, but one that works in the interest of humanity”.

Modi mentioned the challenges faced by the global community, such as “wars, economic uncertainty, climate change and terrorism”.

“At such a time, there are high expectations from BRICS. I believe that as a diverse and inclusive platform, BRICS can play a positive role in all areas… BRICS is an organisation which is willing to evolve with time,” Modi said.

The Indian leader added: “By giving our own example to the world ,we must collectively and in a united manner raise our voice for reforms of global institutions. We must move forward in a time-bound manner on reforms in institutions such as the UN Security Council, multilateral development banks, and the WTO.”

Modi cautioned BRICS leaders to be “careful” so that they are not seen as aiming to “replace” the current international order, but rather reform it in the light of current global realities. The organisation has faced questions regarding its character, with critics labelling it as anti-West, especially with the burgeoning diplomatic partnership between China and Russia.

India has maintained it is “non-West, not anti-West”, a configuration that is important as it deepens its partnership with western powers such as the US, while also maintaining its traditional relationship with Russia.


 
Prime Minister Narendra Modi Wednesday said India was ready to welcome more “partner countries” to BRICS as long as all decisions in this regard were taken “unanimously”.

Making a veiled reference to Russia and China’s tacit support of Pakistan’s entry into the nine-member grouping, Modi remarked at the closed plenary session of the 16th BRICS summit that the views of the founding members of BRICS should be respected. Apart from Russia and China, the other two founding countries are India and Brazil.

The Prime Minister, who is in Russia’s Kazan for the conclave, outlined New Delhi’s position on the expansion of the organisation, which welcomed four new members this year—Ethiopia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Iran and Egypt.

“The guiding principles, standards, criteria and procedures that we adopted in the Johannesburg Summit should be followed by all member and partner countries,” Modi said. Among other things, these principles had emphasised the need to make all decisions by consensus in the expansion process, with views of founding members respected.

There are over 30 countries interested in joining the organisation, including Colombia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Turkey. The grouping founded by Brazil, Russia, India and China welcomed South Africa in 2011, and has now expanded further with the addition of the four new members.

It is understood that Russia and China are in support of Islamabad’s interest to join, with Russian deputy prime minister Alexey Overchuk publicly backing Pakistan’s bid in September.

However, ties between India and Pakistan have been historically fraught, with the two countries currently having no diplomatic representation at the high commissioner level in either country.

‘No double standards on terrorism’
At the closed plenary, Modi also called for a “single minded” focus on combating terrorism and terror financing by BRICS members, adding there was “no place for double standards” on this issue. “We need to take active steps to stop radicalisation of youth in our countries,” added the Prime Minister.

Incidentally, China last year blocked a UN move to designate Pakistan-based LeT terrorist Sajid Mir, wanted for his involvement in the 26/11 Mumbai terrorist attacks, as a “global terrorist”.

Modi reiterated India’s position for “dialogue and diplomacy” and not war—a reference to his comments during the bilateral meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, where he had pushed for diplomacy to end Moscow’s war with Ukraine.

UN & WTO reform
The prime minister’s speech also underscored that the world was looking towards BRICS and that it should be “people-centric” to show it was not a “divisive organisation, but one that works in the interest of humanity”.

Modi mentioned the challenges faced by the global community, such as “wars, economic uncertainty, climate change and terrorism”.

“At such a time, there are high expectations from BRICS. I believe that as a diverse and inclusive platform, BRICS can play a positive role in all areas… BRICS is an organisation which is willing to evolve with time,” Modi said.

The Indian leader added: “By giving our own example to the world ,we must collectively and in a united manner raise our voice for reforms of global institutions. We must move forward in a time-bound manner on reforms in institutions such as the UN Security Council, multilateral development banks, and the WTO.”

Modi cautioned BRICS leaders to be “careful” so that they are not seen as aiming to “replace” the current international order, but rather reform it in the light of current global realities. The organisation has faced questions regarding its character, with critics labelling it as anti-West, especially with the burgeoning diplomatic partnership between China and Russia.

India has maintained it is “non-West, not anti-West”, a configuration that is important as it deepens its partnership with western powers such as the US, while also maintaining its traditional relationship with Russia.



India isn't supporting Pakistan. Pakistan wasn't named among the partner countries. So without India's support Pakistan isn't entering BRICS.

So i don't know why you quoted me.

 
Pakistan isn't named among the partner countries for BRICS.
I'm not sure if we can consider this as rejection.

But anyway If I am being unbiased it makes no sense for Pakistan or even Turkiye to join Brics. Pakistan is often under the grip of the Americans and Turkiye is a NATO member. Hardly what is essentially an Anti American alliance requires.
 
Where is the news they got rejected?

I tried to avoid even credible (at least according to me) Indian news outlets/sources as that’s where I got the info from originally .

I got this from Google. Most top hits are coming from Nigerian/west African news sources.


In the list I can see Turkey as a partner country so I am assuming it was the full
Member request that was not accepted but if that’s not the case I accept my mistake.

Maybe rejected is a harsh word so let’s say probably overlooked due to lack of unanimous consensus.
 
I'm not sure if we can consider this as rejection.

But anyway If I am being unbiased it makes no sense for Pakistan or even Turkiye to join Brics. Pakistan is often under the grip of the Americans and Turkiye is a NATO member. Hardly what is essentially an Anti American alliance requires.

Turkey applied for BRICS membership. They have been made a partner country and that's the first step towards full membership. They know they will not get into EU. Erdogan is at loggerheads with NATO members.

Joining BRICS makes sense for them.
 
And tribune.pk is Pakistani news outlet..

Looks like Russia has brokered peace between India and China because all three countries realised that economic cooperation is indeed the way forward for them.

But both Russia and China also know that India isn't going to compromise on the Pakistan issue.
 
England is nothing without the Romans.

What history do they teach in India?
Lol exactly the point on France, looks like English history isn’t taught or someone preferred to learn with a closed mind.

Here some more: No Japan without China, No Lanka with Ashoka, no China without Mongolia.

Pakistan and India are two separate entities with their own future, you choice to live in the past, don’t include India in your existential crisis.
 
Lol exactly the point on France, looks like English history isn’t taught or someone preferred to learn with a closed mind.

Here some more: No Japan without China, No Lanka with Ashoka, no China without Mongolia.
Don't change the subject.

The birth of the British Monarchy does not equate to the birth of England so your example of France and William the Conqueror is a laughable and ignorant one and moreover a testament to the state of Indian education.
 
India is expected to support Pakistan’s long-standing bid for BRICS membership at the upcoming summit in Kazan, Russia, marking a significant shift in New Delhi’s stance, according to Indian media sources.

The 16th BRICS Summit, scheduled to be held on October 22-23, will focus on expanding the bloc’s membership and could see Pakistan being inducted into the group, which already represents over 45% of the world’s population and 28% of the global economy.

India had previously opposed Pakistan’s inclusion in the BRICS grouping, citing concerns over Islamabad’s economic instability and its potential to bring in additional geopolitical challenges.

However, sources suggest that a shift in consensus among existing BRICS members, particularly Russia and China, has paved the way for India’s reconsideration of its position.

The decision is expected to be formalised at the Kazan summit, where Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi will be present alongside leaders from BRICS member countries.

The summit, chaired by Russia, will also welcome new members like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Iran, as part of a broader push to strengthen the group’s influence in the Global South.

Why is there an expectation from Dushman Mulk? Keep no expectation from India and we will not support your membership anywhere. India's goal is to isolate Pakistan wherever possible.
 
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You talk as if all Government decisions come from your approval.
🤣🤣🤣


The government doesn't need my approval. But most Indian news outlets have reported that India will not allow Pakistan's entry into BRICS.

The fact is that pakistani media has been reporting lots of rubbish vis a vis India since Jaishankar's visit. But this takes the cake.

And the fact that some people believe these news articles, takes the bakery.
 
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Turkey’s BRICS bid falls through due to India's rejection​


India has rejected Turkey's BRICS membership bid, citing the latter's close relationship with Pakistan. The bid fell through as no consensus was reached among members, and the group decided not to accept new members in the near future.​



The German newspaper BILD on Oct. 24 reported that India rejected Turkey's BRICS membership bid, citing Ankara's close relations with Pakistan. As a result of India's decision, the required consensus was not reached.

The state and government leaders gathered for the BRICS summit decided not to accept new members for the time being, according to reporting by the online news outlet T24.

Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia, the United Arab Emirates, and Saudi Arabia were the most recent countries to join the BRICS bloc. Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Malaysia officially applied for membership. Experts indicated that there would not be any expansion within BRICS in the near future, citing the opposition of several countries to further enlargement as the reason.

On Sept. 2, Turkey officially applied to join BRICS. A report by U.S.-based news agency Bloomberg stated that Turkey sought to increase its global influence and build new connections beyond its traditional Western allies. Anonymous sources said the Erdoğan administration believed that the geopolitical center of gravity was shifting away from developed countries.

Erdoğan on Oct. 24 attended the 16th BRICS summit held in Russia’s Kazan province with Russian leader Putin’s invitation. He touched upon global events, Israel’s attacks on Palestine, and the recent gun attack in the Turkish capital that claimed five lives in his speech.

In 2006, Brazil, Russia, India, and China formed the "BRIC" group, aiming to give developing countries more influence in international affairs. The group took its name from the first letters of these countries in English. With the inclusion of South Africa in 2011, the group became "BRICS."

The purpose of BRICS is defined as an organization that aims to represent the interests of the global East and South, in contrast to the U.S.-led Western bloc. A shared goal of the group is to push for reforms in Western-dominated institutions such as the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the World Trade Organization, and the United Nations. While Russia initially led BRICS, it has been noted that China increasingly dominates the organization with its economic, population, and political power.





Above article is from a Turkish website, if the above is true, no hope that Pakistan will get into BRICS.
 
India falling into place realising there is no India without Pakistan.

Other regional powers like China and Russia want to create an alternative to the US dependent dollar which will safeguard their regional clout.

The rest will forever be happy to play the loyal water carrier role as in days of the British Raj.
 
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Looks like Russia has brokered peace between India and China because all three countries realised that economic cooperation is indeed the way forward for them.

But both Russia and China also know that India isn't going to compromise on the Pakistan issue.
Even if India and Pakistan didn't have any hostility why the heck would BRICS want a country like Pakistan ?

What does Pakistan offer, other than madrassa level intellect ? The country is broke, zero economy, not much or any intellect, harbored a hall of fame goat terrorist Osama Bin Laden, is a nuisance to everyone that interacts with them, ask the Chinese about their citizens being killed in Pak.

lol..

Yeah I think BRICS will be just fine without Pakistanis :apology
 
Even if India and Pakistan didn't have any hostility why the heck would BRICS want a country like Pakistan ?

What does Pakistan offer, other than madrassa level intellect ? The country is broke, zero economy, not much or any intellect, harbored a hall of fame goat terrorist Osama Bin Laden, is a nuisance to everyone that interacts with them, ask the Chinese about their citizens being killed in Pak.

lol..

Yeah I think BRICS will be just fine without Pakistanis :apology

If Muslamic Pakistanis have ambitions of reclaiming India for the Ummah, is the thought of reclaiming Pakistan just too mindblowing to contemplate for browbeaten hindutvas? :shehzad
 
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India falling into place realising there is no India without Pakistan.
Absolutely. How can India exist without a country running on handouts and bailouts. Do I need to remind you of the world record it holds in knocking the IMF's door till date?
 
Even if India and Pakistan didn't have any hostility why the heck would BRICS want a country like Pakistan ?

What does Pakistan offer, other than madrassa level intellect ? The country is broke, zero economy, not much or any intellect, harbored a hall of fame goat terrorist Osama Bin Laden, is a nuisance to everyone that interacts with them, ask the Chinese about their citizens being killed in Pak.

lol..

Yeah I think BRICS will be just fine without Pakistanis :apology
We need to rather think of the consequences what BRICS will be with Pakistan.
 
If Muslamic Pakistanis have ambitions of reclaiming India for the Ummah, is the thought of reclaiming Pakistan just too mindblowing to contemplate for browbeaten hindutvas? :shehzad
I agree, if anyone can claim India on behalf of the Ummah it is Britstanis
 
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We need to rather think of the consequences what BRICS will be with Pakistan.
BRICS with Pakistan will be the below.


Pakistan to BRICS countries one by one: Bro can you loan me some money so we can keep Pakistan afloat...

We promise we will pay the interest back with money we borrow of IMF.
 
BRICS with Pakistan will be the below.


Pakistan to BRICS countries one by one: Bro can you loan me some money so we can keep Pakistan afloat...

We promise we will pay the interest back with money we borrow of IMF.
That's so obvious. Beg money from whatever resources you can find.
 
I agree, if anyone can claim India on behalf of the Ummah it is Britstanis,
Agreed. Living in the UK for a better standard of living, abandoning Pakistan, and then boycotting fast food chains, clothing chains, and whatever else they can think of.
 
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That's so obvious. Beg money from whatever resources you can find.
Lol What a lost cause Pakistan is and a bigger LOL at them wanting to be part of the BRICS 😂🤣. This is not even an insult, just plain reality...

Pakistanis have no one to blame but themselves for this pathetic, ungettoutable situation.
 
Pakistanis have no one to blame but themselves for this pathetic, ungettoutable situation.
They certainly do have Narender Modi, Amit Shah, and BJP to blame. If not for them, they would have been competing with China by now ..... err, I mean in development, not in begging, since China don't really have a problem with beggars.
 
I'm pretty certain. The millions living across India in slums would appreciate any financial help thats possible.
Yea, that's why India has knocked the IMF's door 1 time, while Pakistan has knocked the same door a record 24 times till date.
 
Yea, that's why India has knocked the IMF's door 1 time, while Pakistan has knocked the same door a record 24 times till date.
Yet still, poor families are living in sub human standard conditions. And alot are leaving shining India in record numbers
 
Yet still, poor families are living in sub human standard conditions. And alot are leaving shining India in record numbers
And yet we have gone to IMF just 1 time, unlike your country that has gone to the same IMF with a begging bowl a world record 24 times. Not to mention the countless other loans they have received just to keep afloat from other sources.
 
That's the dream. The reality at present is still too Pakistan-focused. See replies above.

With great power comes great responsibility and now that we have a leadership position in global politics we must do our best to break the wheel and unleash the golden era.
 
BRICS with Pakistan will be the below.


Pakistan to BRICS countries one by one: Bro can you loan me some money so we can keep Pakistan afloat...

We promise we will pay the interest back with money we borrow of IMF.

That's so obvious. Beg money from whatever resources you can find.
that is the goal, what an added taqiiya angle.

The NDB, BRICS bank, doesn't impose conditions for the loan. See here .


>>The NDB lends directly to BRICS members or against their sovereign guarantee, thereby making membership in the BRICS critical. Importantly, unlike the IMF, the NDB does not impose conditions for financial assistance, and no member state can veto the decisions of other members based on its economic size. <<
 
If Muslamic Pakistanis have ambitions of reclaiming India for the Ummah, is the thought of reclaiming Pakistan just too mindblowing to contemplate for browbeaten hindutvas? :shehzad
Why invite a problem back in? I mean the land would be nice. but comes with a lots of headache. why bother?
 
And yet we have gone to IMF just 1 time, unlike your country that has gone to the same IMF with a begging bowl a world record 24 times. Not to mention the countless other loans they have received just to keep afloat from other sources.
Its a source of huge shame for Pakistanis, but evidently not for the cabal in ‘charge’
 
Other regional powers like China and Russia want to create an alternative to the US dependent dollar which will safeguard their regional clout.

The rest will forever be happy to play the loyal water carrier role as in days of the British Raj.
If this is delusion of highest orders .

Pakistan is puppet of USA not india .

Everyone knows that pakistan government is installed by USA .

Pakistan were allowed USA to kill any Pakistan by allowing drone attacks.

Pakistan cant purchased anything without USA approval.

Pakistan - iran pipeline is pending and you know why as Uncle Sam didn't gave green signal.

This is just few points .
 
Agreed. Living in the UK for a better standard of living, abandoning Pakistan, and then boycotting fast food chains, clothing chains, and whatever else they can think of.
From begging IMF slurs to rejoicing in the genocide your favourite bro is undertaking…you truly do it all
 
Why invite a problem back in? I mean the land would be nice. but comes with a lots of headache. why bother?

This is a case in point of small minded ambition. The Mughals viewed the whole of the subcontinent as theirs, and they brought it to the height of it's glory giving it the identity of India. Hindutvas today are prepared to cede their territory bit by bit because their vision just cannot comtemplate a greater goal.
 
This is a case in point of small minded ambition. The Mughals viewed the whole of the subcontinent as theirs, and they brought it to the height of it's glory giving it the identity of India. Hindutvas today are prepared to cede their territory bit by bit because their vision just cannot comtemplate a greater goal.
Mughals, whatever identity they got, was because they were in the subcontinent; not the other way. The radicalized islamists of today glorify them due to their religious affinity.
 
Mughals, whatever identity they got, was because they were in the subcontinent; not the other way. The radicalized islamists of today glorify them due to their religious affinity.

The only group from the subcontinent glorifying the Mughals seems to be using this history as a justification to mask underlying biases against the broader Muslim community.
 
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