India is expected to support Pakistan’s long-standing bid for BRICS membership at summit in Kazan

[rpant_gabba]

Then India should withdraw from BRICS and stay out of international financial institutions involving multiple countries.

That might be the wish of some of the countries out with a begging bowl non stop, but you know what they say about wishes and horses

 

[rpant_gabba]

BRICS is a financial co-operative that's aim is to offer an alternative to western financial institutions which come with political strings attached. Other members of BRICS won't be interested in India's sas bahu dramas with Pakistan. They have bigger concerns.

I mean in terms of size, China should be able to do side deals without any political strings attached. How is that working out?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Then India should withdraw from BRICS and stay out of international financial institutions involving multiple countries.

Pakistanis are in no position to decide any of that.

Pakistan isn't getting into BRICS. That's something India can decide.

 

[cricketjoshila]

BRICS is a financial co-operative that's aim is to offer an alternative to western financial institutions which come with political strings attached. Other members of BRICS won't be interested in India's sas bahu dramas with Pakistan. They have bigger concerns.

BRICS will decide all that. And pakistan isn't a member. So what they think has no bearing on BRICS.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not at all. When China eventually demands Pakistan's inclusion, you still will then revert to type.

China itself is mending relationship with India and isn't in any position to force India to do anything.

Pakistanis and their dreams.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan isn't getting into BRICS and won't get any loans from the BRICS bank.

You can keep throwing your toys out of the pram. But that's the truth.

 

[JaDed]

BRICS is a financial co-operative that's aim is to offer an alternative to western financial institutions which come with political strings attached. Other members of BRICS won't be interested in India's sas bahu dramas with Pakistan. They have bigger concerns.

You are confusing ADB with BRICS..
And if you think these are dramas you will be surprised to know what the permanent members of UN have been indulging in for 5 decades.
India is a a footnote in front of their dramas.

 

[JaDed]

@Cpt. Rishwat if Pakistan is looking for financial support it’s member of ADB, AIIB both of those should be enough, BRICS does have a bank but it was India’s idea(Manmohan Singh) to set it up but it’s different to that of ADB,AIIB as it’s also along the lines of financial cooperation away from the Dollar and makes no sense to include Pakistan as it cannot get rid of the dollar dependency.

Heck Pakistan is next to Iran it should never even have inflation issues like it does, there is absolute no incentive for any founding member of BRICS to include Pakistan due to Five eyes influence deeply in Pakistani Establishment.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pakistanis are in no position to decide any of that.

Pakistan isn't getting into BRICS. That's something India can decide.

If you already know that Pakistan isn't getting into BRICS then what is there left for India to decide? Are they waiting for you to give the thumbs down?

 

[Romali_rotti]

If Pakistan is so unimportant why are Indians sweating bullets trying to prevent them joining? Is it just small time pettiness?

That's the thing Cap, Indians are not worrying about Pakistan joining. They are saying they don't need a country like Pakistan in BRICs as naturally it would only bring the the organisation backwards.

 

[HalBass9]

True, but didn’t the Chinese prez visit California just last year not the American Prez but Chinese one did.

True on Russia only , Iran has open communications with USA consistently, US has shot down Iranian planes and what not since 1989 without apologies , Iran has done nothing, US won’t try that with an actual sovereign nation.

Only Russia doesn’t kiss ass in the logic that you have used.

What you’re describing is diplomacy. None of the countries you’ve mentioned would completely sever diplomatic relations with the United States unless there were an all-out war. Even in such a scenario, diplomatic efforts would likely continue in some form.

I’m talking about the need to kiss the back side of the USA to become economically relevant.

 

[JaDed]

What you’re describing is diplomacy. None of the countries you’ve mentioned would completely sever diplomatic relations with the United States unless there were an all-out war. Even in such a scenario, diplomatic efforts would likely continue in some form.

I’m talking about the need to kiss the back side of the USA to become economically relevant.

That is true in all honesty though China did that for 30 years as well.

Russia is the only different story, thinking about it makes me respect them as once upon a time they were culture far ahead with science and literature.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If you already know that Pakistan isn't getting into BRICS then what is there left for India to decide? Are they waiting for you to give the thumbs down?

India has already decided and Pakistan isn't getting into BRICS. Posting smilies isn't going to change any of that.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

India has already decided and Pakistan isn't getting into BRICS. Posting smilies isn't going to change any of that.

Thanks very much for the confirmation. As We are Aware, all major decisions, be it BCCI related, or Government related

 

[cricketjoshila]

Thanks very much for the confirmation. As We are Aware, all major decisions, be it BCCI related, or Government related

Those decisions seem to have hurt you badly.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Those decisions seem to have hurt you badly.

Not at all. I'm living a comfortable life in the UK.

I find it weird, your consistently critical, on a Pakistani platform.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

India has already decided and Pakistan isn't getting into BRICS. Posting smilies isn't going to change any of that.

You need to stop pretending India can make this decision unilaterally without agreement from other BRICS members. Of course if you can post some sources confirming your nonsense, then case closed. Otherwise no one is going to take the opinion of an Indian troll posting on a Pakistani forum seriously.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That's the thing Cap, Indians are not worrying about Pakistan joining. They are saying they don't need a country like Pakistan in BRICs as naturally it would only bring the the organisation backwards.

Then why does India need to do anything? Surely the other BRICS members can come to the same conclusion without all this noise from India? And why are you sweating bullets over it? Why does it matter so much to YOU?

 

[Romali_rotti]

Then why does India need to do anything? Surely the other BRICS members can come to the same conclusion without all this noise from India? And why are you sweating bullets over it? Why does it matter so much to YOU?

I am sweating bullets alright, not about BRICs and Pakistan but rather about Pakistan digging a bigger hole than what they are in now a go into a larger mess.

As a person of Indian origin, I am concerned about India. Pakistan is in India's neighbourhood and if India's neighbourhood stinks, that stench will find its way into India also.

Oh and dont worry about BRICs, Pakistan isn't getting in, so no need to think about it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I am sweating bullets alright, not about BRICs and Pakistan but rather about Pakistan digging a bigger hole than what they are in now a go into a larger mess.

As a person of Indian origin, I am concerned about India. Pakistan is in India's neighbourhood and if India's neighbourhood stinks, that stench will find its way into India also.

Oh and dont worry about BRICs, Pakistan isn't getting in, so no need to think about it.

I see you avoided answering the main gist of my post which was Then why does India need to do anything? Surely the other BRICS members can come to the same conclusion without all this noise from India?

Name calling Pakistan and saying it will stink up the neighbourhood only makes you look paranoid. Perhaps being from a country which is renowned for it's smelly slums is the cause of this.

 

[Romali_rotti]

You need to stop pretending India can make this decision unilaterally without agreement from other BRICS members. Of course if you can post some sources confirming your nonsense, then case closed. Otherwise no one is going to take the opinion of an Indian troll posting on a Pakistani forum seriously.

Cap, you seem very uninformed, first you werent even aware that India was one of the founding members of BRICs and now the above


If any of the BRICs founding nations rejects Pakistan's entry into BRICs then they can't get in.

Turkey recently got rejected, Pakistan won't even make it to the application process stage.

You need to calm down and put your British thinking hat on, let go of the village Pakistani mode.

 

[Devadwal]

Without india approval Pakistan won't get entry in the BRICS .

Why some posters are not understanding this simple things . Why always they are living in own delusion world .

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I said this in post 2 that India won't second Pakistan inclusion to BRICS and why would they ever do so when Pakistan opposes their permanent UN seat, inclusion in OIC and is also after IOK.

But thankfully for them IK is out and a pro India govt in Pak atm so just to cosy them up such news were circulated.

 

[JaDed]

I said this in post 2 that India won't second Pakistan inclusion to BRICS and why would they ever do so when Pakistan opposes their permanent UN seat, inclusion in OIC and is also after IOK.

But thankfully for them IK is out and a pro India govt in Pak atm so just to cosy them up such news were circulated.

Lol, pro India govn? Do you think GOI gives two bit on who is in the government, every relationship with Pakistan only depends upon who is your COAS.

Lol at government, things that Pakistanis still tell themselves.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I said this in post 2 that India won't second Pakistan inclusion to BRICS and why would they ever do so when Pakistan opposes their permanent UN seat, inclusion in OIC and is also after IOK.

But thankfully for them IK is out and a pro India govt in Pak atm so just to cosy them up such news were circulated.

Thankfully? What would Imran Khan do? Nothing.

These kind of news articles is a old strategy of Pakistan. Such articles are then copy pasted by friendly media in India. And then government in India is put under pressure by creating a media narrative that Pakistan wants to be friends.

This happened frequently during Vajpayee government. And they fell for it. It was a disaster for Vajpayee. Cost him his government.

But such people have been thrown out of BJP now.And such Media has little traction.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Cap, you seem very uninformed, first you werent even aware that India was one of the founding members of BRICs and now the above


If any of the BRICs founding nations rejects Pakistan's entry into BRICs then they can't get in.

Turkey recently got rejected, Pakistan won't even make it to the application process stage.

You need to calm down and put your British thinking hat on, let go of the village Pakistani mode.

Then that automatically weakens the whole basis of BRICS and plays into the hands of the western hemisphere instead. Turkey and Pakistan won't remain unaligned, that will give USA a foothold in Asia which they would have feared losing. India also doesn't want to upset Uncle Sam or the British Raj, so that means Indian intransigence is going to mean lack of trust with China, Iran and Russia. Divide and rule worked before with the British Raj, so I guess it will work again with the ancestors of the Indian Raj.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Then that automatically weakens the whole basis of BRICS and plays into the hands of the western hemisphere instead. Turkey and Pakistan won't remain unaligned, that will give USA a foothold in Asia which they would have feared losing. India also doesn't want to upset Uncle Sam or the British Raj, so that means Indian intransigence is going to mean lack of trust with China, Iran and Russia. Divide and rule worked before with the British Raj, so I guess it will work again with the ancestors of the Indian Raj.

Pakistan isn't a part of BRICS and will never become one. It has no economic significance.

Turkey is a NATO member. Its already aligned.

Rest you can keep blabbering about this raj that raj. No raj is going to get Pakistan into BRICS.

And India Russia China can handle their relationship without any help from Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The way pakistanis are reacting here, the rejection has hit them bad.

No country can become member of BRICS if another founder blocks it. Pakistan will never become a BRICS country.

Brazil blocked Venezuela's membership

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol BRICS is not some super bloc, I see Russia, China and Pakistan aligning in the future. Only change of leadership in Pakistan can expedite this process. And when that happens India would be out of its senses.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The way pakistanis are reacting here, the rejection has hit them bad.

No country can become member of BRICS if another founder blocks it. Pakistan will never become a BRICS country.

Brazil blocked Venezuela's membership

This just shows how small mindedness will mean BRICS can never challenge SWIFT or NATO. Brazil blocking Venezuela is equally as small time as India blocking Pakistan. This is the advantage of the western mindset, they understand how to play the bigger game and leave the third world with their petty bickering.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This just shows how small mindedness will mean BRICS can never challenge SWIFT or NATO. Brazil blocking Venezuela is equally as small time as India blocking Pakistan. This is the advantage of the western mindset, they understand how to play the bigger game and leave the third world with their petty bickering.

Good. Pakistan can keep getting loans from IMF. We don't care.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol BRICS is not some super bloc, I see Russia, China and Pakistan aligning in the future. Only change of leadership in Pakistan can expedite this process. And when that happens India would be out of its senses.

How many times have Pakistanis tried to get close to Russia and failed?

You can see anything. Doesn't mean it will happen.

Russia and India have been strategic partners for decades. Even now India continues to support Russia. No sanctions. Billions of dollars of trade.

What will Pakistan bring to the table? Your economy is dependant on IMF and loans. That money isn't going to go to Russia.

The only one out of senses are pakistanis like you.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Good. Pakistan can keep getting loans from IMF. We don't care.

We know you don't care but this is also why you will always be under the boots of the west. You care about that but you are too small minded to see beyond it, but that is ok, it is understandable third world mentality.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How many times have Pakistanis tried to get close to Russia and failed?

You can see anything. Doesn't mean it will happen.

Russia and India have been strategic partners for decades. Even now India continues to support Russia. No sanctions. Billions of dollars of trade.

What will Pakistan bring to the table? Your economy is dependant on IMF and loans. That money isn't going to go to Russia.

The only one out of senses are pakistanis like you.

Why do you think you can talk on behalf of Russia? They don't share your petty rivalries with Pakistan, their concern will be with the proxy wars imposed on them by NATO. Their concerns will be with NATO encroachment on their region, and they aren't dumb enough to miss India trying to play both sides. Same goes for China.

If you can take emotion out of it, this is common sense. A regional bloc is only as strong as it's disparate parts. If you have US implants like South Korea, Ukraine or Pakistan smack bang in the middle of it you are inviting trouble.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We know you don't care but this is also why you will always be under the boots of the west. You care about that but you are too small minded to see beyond it, but that is ok, it is understandable third world mentality.

If we needed advise on geopolitics and economy from pakistanis we would allow them in BRICS.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

If we needed advise on geopolitics and economy from pakistanis we would allow them in BRICS.

Your posts history suggests clearly everything to do with Pakistan lives rent free in the vast space between the ears.

Remember imrans VONC motion.

Last National Election, you were regularly posting.

 

[HalBass9]

Good. Pakistan can keep getting loans from IMF. We don't care.

It is clear that this topic of IMF is of significant concern, if it were not, we would not see Hindutva advocates inserting these comments into nearly every thread and comment, often accompanied by assertions of India’s economic prowess. The frequent comparisons with Pakistan suggest a need to construct a narrative of superiority, which may be used to rationalize discriminatory attitudes toward fellow Indian citizens, particularly Muslims.

The core ideology of Hindutva centers around anti Muslim sentiment within India, antagonism toward Pakistan, and an emphasis on wealth accumulation. Critics of Hindutva are often accused of being anti-Hindu, which deflects legitimate criticism by equating opposition to Hindutva with opposition to Hinduism itself.

For Hindutva, having an adversary, or ‘boogeyman,’ appears essential for its continued influence and survival.

And you are leading that narrative on this forum.

 

[Red-Indian]

Why do you think you can talk on behalf of Russia? They don't share your petty rivalries with Pakistan, their concern will be with the proxy wars imposed on them by NATO. Their concerns will be with NATO encroachment on their region, and they aren't dumb enough to miss India trying to play both sides. Same goes for China.

If you can take emotion out of it, this is common sense. A regional bloc is only as strong as it's disparate parts. If you have US implants like South Korea, Ukraine or Pakistan smack bang in the middle of it you are inviting trouble.

It's a very tricky decision for India.

The previous set of expansion - Iran, Saudi, UAE, Egypt & Ethiopia kept the BRICS still semi-balanced. India, Brazil, Saudi, UAE, South Africa are neutral/West oriented. China, Russia, Iran, Egypt and Ethiopia are China leaning.

Of the original members, India, Brazil and South Africa are very leery of further expansion and signaling the BRICS as an Anti-US/Anti-West grouping. I would guess they prefer positioning BRICS as an alternative rather than an adversary (not that it matters - BRICS is neither except as a signaling mechanism)

For countries like Pakistan which are strongly in the China camp to be allowed in, China will have to make some concessions. I suppose negotiations are ongoing in the background but it won't be easy.

 

[Bhaijaan]

At the moment, credibility of BRICS could suffer a lot if countries like Pakistan with a very bad reputation are allowed to be part of it. The message to west is that here we are a group of responsible, developing nations and future top economies and if you cannot amend your condescending ways then we are going to look after ourselves without depending on you.

The moment you add Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, Lebanon type nations in the BRICS, its reputation suffers big time. No offense but a lot of positive developments need to happen before such requests can be considered. As a founding member, we must be watchful of such things.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If we needed advise on geopolitics and economy from pakistanis we would allow them in BRICS.

No this just displays hatred which is based on hindutva, not any other values. I would imagine that the Indian govt would have people in place who can see the bigger picture. But who knows, maybe this is a reflection of your people.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your posts history suggests clearly everything to do with Pakistan lives rent free in the vast space between the ears.

Remember imrans VONC motion.

Last National Election, you were regularly posting.

Imran Khan VONC was a big event. A Pakistani PM removed by a democratic tool and not via coup or judiciary. A very interesting political development and i must say that it was a decisive shift in pakistani politics.

Look at the thread title. Its about India and Pakistan. That's exactly what i am talking about.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No this just displays hatred which is based on hindutva, not any other values. I would imagine that the Indian govt would have people in place who can see the bigger picture. But who knows, maybe this is a reflection of your people.

Bigger picture is to not allow Pakistan as it brings nothing to do table.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It is clear that this topic of IMF is of significant concern, if it were not, we would not see Hindutva advocates inserting these comments into nearly every thread and comment, often accompanied by assertions of India’s economic prowess. The frequent comparisons with Pakistan suggest a need to construct a narrative of superiority, which may be used to rationalize discriminatory attitudes toward fellow Indian citizens, particularly Muslims.

The core ideology of Hindutva centers around anti Muslim sentiment within India, antagonism toward Pakistan, and an emphasis on wealth accumulation. Critics of Hindutva are often accused of being anti-Hindu, which deflects legitimate criticism by equating opposition to Hindutva with opposition to Hinduism itself.

For Hindutva, having an adversary, or ‘boogeyman,’ appears essential for its continued influence and survival.

And you are leading that narrative on this forum.

Yes, Pakistanis fought 4 wars with India and supports a armed secessionist movement in Kashmir because of Hindutva.

Just like hardly anyone believes your narrative on jews, hardly anyone believes your narrative on Hindus.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bigger picture is to not allow Pakistan as it brings nothing to do table.

This is just wrong. You are viewing through saffron specs, other members of BRICS won't be wearing those.

For member countries, Pakistan provides strategic location between middle east and Asia, specifically for China and Russia as already mentioned here. There's a population of 230 million which offers emerging markets, especially as Pakistan economy will be growing exponentially as Asia becomes more important. Or maybe you think the Belt and Road initiative which China has invested in so heavily is because they love Muslims?

 

[Red-Indian]

This is just wrong. You are viewing through saffron specs, other members of BRICS won't be wearing those.

For member countries, Pakistan provides strategic location between middle east and Asia, specifically for China and Russia as already mentioned here. There's a population of 230 million which offers emerging markets, especially as Pakistan economy will be growing exponentially as Asia becomes more important. Or maybe you think the Belt and Road initiative which China has invested in so heavily is because they love Muslims?

Keeping the politics aside, if they were looking for new members to create a grouping as an alternate to the West, there should be a long line before Pakistan - Indonesia, Phillipines, Vietnam, Thailand should be the prime targets. Next should be the weaker but still something to contribute economies like Turkey, Argentina and Bangladesh. Only then could the really weak economies with potential like Nigeria and Pakistan be considered.

It's all academic because who knows what BRICS is really trying to do and be but that sort of seems logical.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Imran Khan VONC was a big event. A Pakistani PM removed by a democratic tool and not via coup or judiciary. A very interesting political development and i must say that it was a decisive shift in pakistani politics.

Look at the thread title. Its about India and Pakistan. That's exactly what i am talking about.

But but, you keep on beating the drum, what goes on in Pakistan is of no interest to you. Atleast show some consistency.

 

[cricketjoshila]

But but, you keep on beating the drum, what goes on in Pakistan is of no interest to you. Atleast show some consistency.

This was a one off political event. A novelty in pakistani politics. A popular PM removed by a democratic tool in Pakistan. Many neutral watchers were watching the development.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is just wrong. You are viewing through saffron specs, other members of BRICS won't be wearing those.

For member countries, Pakistan provides strategic location between middle east and Asia, specifically for China and Russia as already mentioned here. There's a population of 230 million which offers emerging markets, especially as Pakistan economy will be growing exponentially as Asia becomes more important. Or maybe you think the Belt and Road initiative which China has invested in so heavily is because they love Muslims?

Other BRICS members can then break BRICS. Form a new organisation without India and take in Pakistan. They have that choice.

BRI has nothing to do with BRICS. Most BRICS members have no connection to BRI.

Iran provides a gateway between middle east and rest of Asia. India Iran and Russia are already operationalising the INSTC. So this strategic location isn't really that important.

Pakistan is in economic doldrums. Its surviving on IMF bailouts. Its intention behind joining BRICS is to have access to funds from BRICS bank. So this Pakistan will grow exponentially story isn't true.

 

[HalBass9]

Yes, Pakistanis fought 4 wars with India and supports a armed secessionist movement in Kashmir because of Hindutva.

Just like hardly anyone believes your narrative on jews, hardly anyone believes your narrative on Hindus.

Yea! People from global south wants to believe a Hindutva who is dying to wash off the blood stains of children’s, women, elderly head shots from the garments of Z boys.

Sit yourself down and stop coming back with immature childish Hindutva responses. You have already reaffirmed your bigotry toward Muslims of India and the rest of the Muslims.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yea! People from global south wants to believe a Hindutva who is dying to wash off the blood stains of children’s, women, elderly head shots from the garments of Z boys.

Sit yourself down and stop coming back with immature childish Hindutva responses. You have already reaffirmed your bigotry toward Muslims of India and the rest of the Muslims.

Pakistan is a hostile state and its not getting any support from India anywhere.

Using words like Hindutva or Global south etc won't change anything.

The world doesn't care about pakistani narrative on India.

People are wanting to deal with India and what pakistanis say isn't stopping them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Keeping the politics aside, if they were looking for new members to create a grouping as an alternate to the West, there should be a long line before Pakistan - Indonesia, Phillipines, Vietnam, Thailand should be the prime targets. Next should be the weaker but still something to contribute economies like Turkey, Argentina and Bangladesh. Only then could the really weak economies with potential like Nigeria and Pakistan be considered.

It's all academic because who knows what BRICS is really trying to do and be but that sort of seems logical.

I think your first sentence sort of answered your last. Why the need for BRICS at all except for politics? A US based financial order is subject to US interference I would imagine. Isn't that why Russia is selling oil and gas using other forms of payment?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Other BRICS members can then break BRICS. Form a new organisation without India and take in Pakistan. They have that choice.

BRI has nothing to do with BRICS. Most BRICS members have no connection to BRI.

Iran provides a gateway between middle east and rest of Asia. India Iran and Russia are already operationalising the INSTC. So this strategic location isn't really that important.

Pakistan is in economic doldrums. Its surviving on IMF bailouts. Its intention behind joining BRICS is to have access to funds from BRICS bank. So this Pakistan will grow exponentially story isn't true.

Iran is providing a gateway which suits India, but not necessarily many other countries in the middle east or Asia. Even that was constructed because India was fuming at the importance the Belt and Road project would give to Pakistan. As for Pakistan not being a strategic location, I doubt that India would be kicking up such a fuss if that were true. For most countries in the region who are NOT obsessing over religious history in the subcontinent, they will just view it as another part of the world they don't want another US implant. If India wasn't such a big market they would probably have kicked them out of BRICS given half a chance. Russia and China will be very aware of India's duplicity with the east and west.

 

[Red-Indian]

I think your first sentence sort of answered your last. Why the need for BRICS at all except for politics? A US based financial order is subject to US interference I would imagine. Isn't that why Russia is selling oil and gas using other forms of payment?

China doesn't have the skill or the political heft to lead the development of an adversarial financial order yet. If you look at the top 10 countries by GDP, China's obviously at 2 but the only other country in that top 10 aligned with China's goals is Russia at 8 which is itself deeply mired in a war that's sucking up it's people and finances.

They need to do a lot of work to build up alliances with others who would be willing to work with them in such an endeavour if they're to have any chance of success. They'd have to build trust, common causes etc. Maybe in 10 years, they'd be able to pull a couple of the other top 10 into their orbit. That would be a possible time to try. BRICS as it stands today is shallow posturing.

 

[Varun]

Forget about the future. Let's look at the past: what has this BRICS thing ever achieved?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Iran is providing a gateway which suits India, but not necessarily many other countries in the middle east or Asia. Even that was constructed because India was fuming at the importance the Belt and Road project would give to Pakistan. As for Pakistan not being a strategic location, I doubt that India would be kicking up such a fuss if that were true. For most countries in the region who are NOT obsessing over religious history in the subcontinent, they will just view it as another part of the world they don't want another US implant. If India wasn't such a big market they would probably have kicked them out of BRICS given half a chance. Russia and China will be very aware of India's duplicity with the east and west.

Iran Russia and India control INTSC. All members of BRICS. Two of them founding members. Why will BRICS need some alternative route.

BRI can give all importance to Pakistan. Nothing to do with BRICS.

India doesn't want a economically bankrupt and hostile nation which brings little to the table. Pakistanis wants an alternative to IMF. That's why its desperate.

Which middle east and asian countries have issues with INSTC?

India is projected to be the 4th largest economy in a few months. Its the second largest economy in BRICS.Without India BRICS economic heft will have a lot less economic heft.

Russia doesn't look at India via pakistani lenses. Just google a few statements of Putin.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol....after reading few posters here I am starting to believe like BRICS is a the biggest Bloc in the world and without which no country can survive

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lol....after reading few posters here I am starting to believe like BRICS is a the biggest Bloc in the world and without which no country can survive

After reading @cricketjoshila replies I am starting to think BRICS is going to be nothing more than a talking shop where founding members can air their regional gripes like desi aunties at a tea party.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol....after reading few posters here I am starting to believe like BRICS is a the biggest Bloc in the world and without which no country

can survive

Pakistan desperately wanted to be in BRICS. Will free it from the clutches of IMF.

After reading @cricketjoshila replies I am starting to think BRICS is going to be nothing more than a talking shop where founding members can air their regional gripes like desi aunties at a tea party.

Sour grapes