India reach 233/6 at Stumps on Day 1 of 1st Test against Australia

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Indian test batting revolves around Kohli these days. Can't even imagine how others will perform after this test.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Disappointing from Shaw but it was no surprise. Home ton v Windies doesnt make you a Test cricketer

Opportunity for Saha,if he can take India above 350+,he'd have justified his place

Rahane living on borrowed time. Its time he produces something rather than running out the one doing well

Do you know how many tests has Shaw played in his career so far? If I am not wrong this was his first ever inning in Australia? If 28 year old Rahul can get countless opportunities in test cricket even after playing 34 tests than Shaw can also get few series under his belt after averaging 55 in 4 tests.

 

[Saurav]

Do you know how many tests has Shaw played in his career so far? If I am not wrong this was his first ever inning in Australia? If 28 year old Rahul can get countless opportunities in test cricket even after playing 34 tests than Shaw can also get few series under his belt after averaging 55 in 4 tests.

Expected dumb mumbo jumbo

Rahul got a ton in debut in Aus.You really wanna compare that with Shaw?

Besides Rahul isnt getting chances as Test opener now anyway. Classic targeting of players and goal shifting

 

[MenInG]

Sunil Gavaskar was not impressed with the performances of India openers Prithvi Shaw and Mayank Agarwal in the first innings of the first Test against Australia in Adelaide on Thursday. After Virat Kohli won the toss and opted to bat, India lost Shaw for a second ball duck, while Agarwal, despite growing in confidence following a nervy start was castled by Pat Cummins. Both dismissals, albeit not identical, had the same error, Gavaskar pointed out – a huge gap between the bat and pads, which resulted in their dismissals.


“Even today, have a look at where his bat ends. There is such a big gap between bat and pad. Just the second delivery of the game and you want to make sure that you are playing with soft hands. You are playing as late as possible. The whole idea in Test match cricket is that you don’t go there. Then you are leaving that much of a gap between bat and pad, allowing for any late movement, either to get an inside edge or snick between bat and pad,” Gavaskar, a former India captain, told 7Cricket.

Shaw played the first ball defensively before Mitchell Starc had him playing on the next delivery. It was his first duck in Test cricket. Agarwal scored 17 off 40 balls having hit two confident-looking boundaries before Cummins exploited the ‘gate’ to rattle the batsman’s stumps. Gavaskar, arguable India’s greatest Test opening batsman, stressed on the basic of batting, explaining how it’s important to hold down a little.

“The trick is to try and play as close to the pads as possible, which means your bat speed has to be minimal at the start of the innings. As you grow in confidence, yes then you go and play your shots. But at the start when you are not even off the mark, you want to try and reduce your bat speed. Don’t leave any gap between bat and pad,” Gavaskar added.

“Well again, you can have a look at this. He’s (Mayank) played very hard at the ball, later on. This particular shot shows that the bat is close to the pad. It wasn’t. The ball snicked through there was such a big gap... a truck could have gone. A truck could have gone between that bat and pad. So that’s what the Indians are making a big mistake.”

India ended the day on 233/6 with Wriddhiman Saha and R Ashwin being the two unbeaten batsmen.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...in-adelaide/story-lrlPn8L7drzGoz6VCptNEL.html

 

[sharmaji]

If Hardik Pandya could bowl (at his best), I would have replaced Vihari with him. Heck, if Vihari fails in the second innings too, and if Jadeja is fit for the second test, I would rather go with Jadeja instead of Vihari.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Expected dumb mumbo jumbo

Rahul got a ton in debut in Aus.You really wanna compare that with Shaw?

Besides Rahul isnt getting chances as Test opener now anyway. Classic targeting of players and goal shifting

So every player should get a ton in debut in Australia to impress you? Rahul is 28 and averages 34 whereas Shaw is 21 and averages 55. I laugh at people like you who call Pant a kid but expect players like Shaw to be matured in their first outing in Australia that too in a Day Night test. At least do your homework first before looking like a fool here.

 

[Saurav]

If Hardik Pandya could bowl (at his best), I would have replaced Vihari with him. Heck, if Vihari fails in the second innings too, and if Jadeja is fit for the second test, I would rather go with Jadeja instead of Vihari.

Vihari is okay.He'll come good

if Jaddu is fit,he'll replace Ash unless he does well here

 

[BreadPakoda]

IIRC Shaw has 5 ducks in his last 10 innings. He should not have been played when he’s in such a horrible form. This is detrimental for him.

More importantly though he doesn’t seem to have a tight technique which is more worrisome. Shaw needs some time in domestics where he can work with a good coach. Gambhir did the same in 2007 and had a great career after that.

 

[Saurav]

So every player should get a ton in debut in Australia to impress you? Rahul is 28 and averages 34 whereas Shaw is 21 and averages 55. I laugh at people like you who call Pant a kid but expect players like Shaw to be matured in their first outing in Australia that too in a Day Night test. At least do your homework first before looking like a fool here.

So now you are exposed with that ton,it doesnt matter

Shaw has that average after bashing WI at home,what other has he done?

So now targetting Pant lol. He has tons vs Starc,Cummins,Anderson,Broad in their own den in his first tours.Thats enough proof of talent. Remind me of last other Indian WK who has done it.

Now you will call those tons useless and what not.Please try something different. Maybe attack Pandya now?

 

[MP2011]

I don't know what else Gill could've done to warrant a place in this Indian team which is clearly struggling with its batting.

 

[Saurav]

I don't know what else Gill could've done to warrant a place in this Indian team which is clearly struggling with its batting.

TM is scared to take big decisions,even though thats how we discovered Mayank last time

 

[MP2011]

Vihari is okay.He'll come good

if Jaddu is fit,he'll replace Ash unless he does well here

I've high hopes from Ashwin, the batsman, not so much with his bowling. Even if he can taken 3-4 wickets in this test at good clip, he'd have justified his place.

 

[MP2011]

TM is scared to take big decisions,even though thats how we discovered Mayank last time

Don't you think Mayank is going backwards after a bright start to his test career? First NZ tour and then ODIs here and now this innings. This is not how he'll cement his place.

 

[Saurav]

I've high hopes from Ashwin, the batsman, not so much with his bowling. Even if he can taken 3-4 wickets in this test at good clip, he'd have justified his place.

If he does that along with good batting,I've no complaints

But his batting has gone down inexplicably

Hoping he can get us close to 350 here alongwith Saha

 

[Saurav]

Don't you think Mayank is going backwards after a bright start to his test career? First NZ tour and then ODIs here and now this innings. This is not how he'll cement his place.

NZ tour everyone failed,so I won't single him out.Infact he got a 50 IIRC

Today got a start atleast though should have carried now. I have a feeling he's told to curb his strokeplay

Will give him full series here

 

[MP2011]

If he does that along with good batting,I've no complaints

But his batting has gone down inexplicably

Hoping he can get us close to 350 here alongwith Saha

Yeah, if we can somehow get close to 350, we'd have done really well after what our openers did. That'd also give our bowlers a bit of cushion to attack Australian bats.

 

[MP2011]

NZ tour everyone failed,so I won't single him out.Infact he got a 50 IIRC

Today got a start atleast though should have carried now. I have a feeling he's told to curb his strokeplay

Will give him full series here

Of course, he should get entire series, no complaints on that front.

 

[King_Kohli]

Do you know how many tests has Shaw played in his career so far? If I am not wrong this was his first ever inning in Australia? If 28 year old Rahul can get countless opportunities in test cricket even after playing 34 tests than Shaw can also get few series under his belt after averaging 55 in 4 tests.

I seriously cant understand your logics.
You are biased towards certain players and bashing other players no matter what they have done.
You are backing Shaw and targeting Pant for same reasons.

 

[Devadwal]

Shaw should not play outside India with poor technique & temperament . Gill have all bass covered

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So now you are exposed with that ton,it doesnt matter

Shaw has that average after bashing WI at home,what other has he done?

So now targetting Pant lol. He has tons vs Starc,Cummins,Anderson,Broad in their own den in his first tours.Thats enough proof of talent. Remind me of last other Indian WK who has done it.

Now you will call those tons useless and what not.Please try something different. Maybe attack Pandya now?

Not sure whether you are dumb or intentionally acting like one here. Shaw has played only 4 tests so far lol. Go look up other's stats too and what they have done in their careers so far before spouting your nonsense.

KL Rahul scored a century in Australia but failed against West Indies at home. He was dropped after that series and still hasn't cemented his place in the team because he averages around 34.

Pant scored a century in Australia and has an average of 92 at home which is helping his overall average of 38 lol. Without that his average is 33. And guess which team he scored against at home? It was West Indies.

If these two are such world beaters why are they not playing in the current test? KL Rahul is actually lucky he didn't play in this test. Pant on the other hand will eventually play when Saha is done with international cricket.

KL Rahul got 5 tests in England to prove himself. He scored a ton in the last inning of the dead rubber which we also lost. Have nothing against KL Rahul but was just exposing your hypocrisy. Also funny to read that 23 year old Pant deserves chances but 21 year old Shaw doesn't after one bad inning/tour.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I seriously cant understand your logics.
You are biased towards certain players and bashing other players no matter what they have done.
You are backing Shaw and targeting Pant for same reasons.

Lol what? I am actually exposing the hypocrisy of you fans who support Pant. I am no fan of Shaw either but he has just played 4 tests. You can compare that to guys like Pant/Rahul/Pandya who have played more than 50 internationals but still haven't cemented their places in the team yet. I can also use the same logic against you guys that why do you want to give endless opportunities to some guys but want to discard players like Iyer, Shaw, Pandey after few failures? Understand the post first before replying. Don't be like that [MENTION=45152]Saurav[/MENTION] guy who is posting nonsense.

 

[Saurav]

Not sure whether you are dumb or intentionally acting like one here. Shaw has played only 4 tests so far lol. Go look up other's stats too and what they have done in their careers so far before spouting your nonsense.

KL Rahul scored a century in Australia but failed against West Indies at home. He was dropped after that series and still hasn't cemented his place in the team because he averages around 34.

Pant scored a century in Australia and has an average of 92 at home which is helping his overall average of 38 lol. Without that his average is 33. And guess which team he scored against at home? It was West Indies.

If these two are such world beaters why are they not playing in the current test? KL Rahul is actually lucky he didn't play in this test. Pant on the other hand will eventually play when Saha is done with international cricket.

KL Rahul got 5 tests in England to prove himself. He scored a ton in the last inning of the dead rubber which we also lost. Have nothing against KL Rahul but was just exposing your hypocrisy. Also funny to read that 23 year old Pant deserves chances but 21 year old Shaw doesn't after one bad inning/tour.

I haven't even contested Rahul being dropped. Why did you bring it in? Just habit of targetting

Where I said play Rahul as opener lol

Rahul got chances based on early promise he showed by performing away from home.

Yes Shaw has only played 4 Tests,but his loose technique is there for all to see.Gill is breathing down his neck and deserves chances

Also comparing Pant who is a WK bat batting at 7 with an opener

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I haven't even contested Rahul being dropped. Why did you bring it in? Just habit of targetting

Where I said play Rahul as opener lol

Rahul got chances based on early promise he showed by performing away from home.

Yes Shaw has only played 4 Tests,but his loose technique is there for all to see.Gill is breathing down his neck and deserves chances

Also comparing Pant who is a WK bat batting at 7 with an opener

I was comparing the number of chances they are getting and their age. Not to mention his stats against West Indies at home. Nobody is comparing Shaw the batsman with Pant here. Use your brain for once.

KL has got enough chances. Not even Rohit Sharma got this many chances in test cricket. Let other guys try their luck now.

 

[Ab Fan]

Rishabh Pant averages 33 away from home as a wicket keeper batsman while Prithvi Shaw averages 19 away from home as a specialist batsman.

 

[Saurav]

I was comparing the number of chances they are getting and their age. Not to mention his stats against West Indies at home. Nobody is comparing Shaw the batsman with Pant here. Use your brain for once.

KL has got enough chances. Not even Rohit Sharma got this many chances in test cricket. Let other guys try their luck now.

Because both Shaw and Pant have different competitors. Pant is competing with likes of Saha and thus many people feel he deserves chances especially having done well in overseas

Shaw is specialist opener and competing with Gill who has done better in A tours and FC and recent warmup game

Agree about KL and Rohit. People suggest Rohit as Test opener overseas just coz he did well in India KL too should focus on LOIs where hes doing okay

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Do you know how many tests has Shaw played in his career so far? If I am not wrong this was his first ever inning in Australia? If 28 year old Rahul can get countless opportunities in test cricket even after playing 34 tests than Shaw can also get few series under his belt after averaging 55 in 4 tests.

Agree with you on this.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Yeah, if we can somehow get close to 350, we'd have done really well after what our openers did. That'd also give our bowlers a bit of cushion to attack Australian bats.

350 i too much. I expect 300 max.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Agree with you on this.

No. You don't play someone who's got 0 in 4 of the last 9 times he's come out to bat, and 92 runs in last 11. Its not good for the team. Its not good for him.

 

[sharmaji]

While I agree that Shaw should get as many chances as KL Rahul and others got, I am just so unimpressed with his technique in general, that unless Shaw scores a lot of runs in whatever opportunities he gets, I can't be comfortable with him being our regular opener.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Shaw deserves chances but not right now when he's horribly out of form and his technique looks off.

 

[sharmaji]

Vihari is okay.He'll come good

if Jaddu is fit,he'll replace Ash unless he does well here

I hope he does, I have nothing against him, but he hasn't done anything special to warrant a confirmed place in the team. He needs to do better, dude is a test specialist. The way he got out today was embarrassing.

 

[Ab Fan]

Shaw deserves chances but not right now when he's horribly out of form and his technique looks off.

Basically, that's the point. I am all for backing of youngsters. Gill, Pant and Shaw all of them but currently Shaw's technique is completely exposed, it started from IPL and if someone considers that IPL is low quality cricket then its even more ridiculous to think that Shaw's technique is getting exposed in IPL and at one point he was even dropped from his IPL franchise team.

If Gill fails for a few games, I would still back him because till now he has already shown that he has the right technique, temperament and shot selection. As for Shaw, not much though and it's based on several of his previous games as highlighted above.

 

[Saurav]

Basically, that's the point. I am all for backing of youngsters. Gill, Pant and Shaw all of them but currently Shaw's technique is completely exposed, it started from IPL and if someone considers that IPL is low quality cricket then its even more ridiculous to think that Shaw's technique is getting exposed in IPL and at one point he was even dropped from his IPL franchise team.

If Gill fails for a few games, I would still back him because till now he has already shown that he has the right technique, temperament and shot selection. As for Shaw, not much though and it's based on several of his previous games as highlighted above.

Yup. Talented but doesn't look ready for Tests as of now

His knee injury also has hampered him imo

 

[MMHS]

We know that the ball and the surface are less bowler-friendly than for the first three Adelaide Day/Night Tests.

If India can bat til halfway through tomorrow - ie bowl under lights with a new ball - this will be vindicated.

But if they make less than 300, and lose the ability to use a new ball under lights, it will not have been helpful.

I request, please don't force me to waste time for a non existent theory.

Once for the last time, I'm telling you that these "tactical declaration" or batting towards that "tactical period" exists only in your mind. In Test cricket, there will be difficult periods for batting - like in England, first hour is always difficult, that doesn't mean team will slog around so that they can get all-out in 83 overs, then bowl with new ball few overs before day end and then in morning next day. And, show me one example where teams have declared first inning at say 302-6 at the start of Day 2, just because the condition suddenly has changed to seem friendly. Only tactical declaration that's been done is on 3rd innings, after a good lead or depending on how many overs possible in remaining time. Long back, when they played on uncovered tracks, sometimes there were "tactical declaration", but not in last 50 years.

Coming to Adelaide, for the first 3 Tests - I am not sure where you got this "bowling friendly" theory. Yesterday, it was damn difficult to bat and if India indeed puts 350 here, you'll see Aussie batting ... On same ground in a D/N Test last years Aussies did naughty things with PAK bowling talent......

Let's analyze the first three Tests - I don't have that much time, so I won't post long story here - I am just posting the match scorecard and day-end state ... if you know your cricket, match the wicket falling times and the day end score card, you'll understand .... I hope.

D/N Test 1: AUS V NZ
New Zealand 202 & 208 - Australia 224 & 187/7

Fall of Wickets:
NZ 1st: 1-7 (Martin Guptill, 3.2 ov), 2-59 (Kane Williamson, 23.4 ov), 3-94 (Tom Latham, 31.5 ov), 4-98 (Ross Taylor, 32.6 ov), 5-98 (Brendon McCullum, 33.3 ov), 6-142 (Mitchell Santner, 46.3 ov), 7-164 (Mark Craig, 52.3 ov), 8-184 (BJ Watling, 61.2 ov), 9-194 (Doug Bracewell, 62.2 ov), 10-202 (Tim Southee, 65.2 ov)

AUS 1st: 1-6 (David Warner, 3.2 ov), 2-34 (Joe Burns, 13.1 ov), 3-63 (Adam Voges, 24.4 ov), 4-67 (Shaun Marsh, 28.4 ov), 5-80 (Mitchell Marsh, 36.1 ov), 6-109 (Steven Smith, 48.2 ov), 7-109 (Peter Siddle, 48.6 ov), 8-116 (Josh Hazlewood, 51.5 ov), 9-190 (Nathan Lyon, 67.4 ov), 10-224 (Peter Nevill, 72.1 ov)

NZ 2nd: 1-29 (Martin Guptill, 12.3 ov), 2-32 (Tom Latham, 14.6 ov), 3-52 (Kane Williamson, 19.6 ov), 4-84 (Brendon McCullum, 25.2 ov), 5-98 (Ross Taylor, 28.3 ov), 6-116 (BJ Watling, 38.3 ov), 7-140 (Mark Craig, 46.5 ov), 8-175 (Mitchell Santner, 54.4 ov), 9-192 (Tim Southee, 59.2 ov), 10-208 (Trent Boult, 62.5 ov)
AUS 2nd: 1-34 (Joe Burns, 5.3 ov), 2-62 (David Warner, 12.1 ov), 3-66 (Steven Smith, 13.2 ov), 4-115 (Adam Voges, 29.2 ov), 5-161 (Mitchell Marsh, 38.3 ov), 6-176 (Shaun Marsh, 47.1 ov), 7-185 (Peter Nevill, 49.5 ov)

CLOSE OF PLAY
Thu, 26 Nov - day 1 -Australia 1st innings 54/2 (Steven Smith 24*, Adam Voges 9*, 22 ov)
Fri, 27 Nov - day 2 -New Zealand 2nd innings 116/5 (Mitchell Santner 13*, BJ Watling 7*, 37 ov)
Sat, 28 Nov - day 3 -Australia 2nd innings 187/7 (51 ov) - end of match


D/N Test 2: AUS V SAF
SAF: 259/9d & 250 - AUS 383 & 127/3

Fall of Wickets:
SAF 1st: 1-12 (Dean Elgar, 6.5 ov), 2-36 (Hashim Amla, 12.1 ov), 3-44 (Jean-Paul Duminy, 14.5 ov), 4-95 (Stephen Cook, 32.1 ov), 5-117 (Temba Bavuma, 42.1 ov), 6-149 (Quinton de Kock, 50.3 ov), 7-161 (Vernon Philander, 52.6 ov), 8-215 (Kyle Abbott, 67.6 ov), 9-220 (Kagiso Rabada, 70.1 ov)
AUS 1st: 1-19 (Matt Renshaw, 15.3 ov), 2-37 (David Warner, 21.6 ov), 3-174 (Steven Smith, 60.6 ov), 4-273 (Peter Handscomb, 86.1 ov), 5-277 (Nic Maddinson, 89.5 ov), 6-283 (Matthew Wade, 90.5 ov), 7-327 (Usman Khawaja, 108.5 ov), 8-357 (Mitchell Starc, 115.1 ov), 9-370 (Nathan Lyon, 116.3 ov), 10-383 (Jackson Bird, 121.1 ov)

SAF 2nd: 1-1 (Dean Elgar, 0.5 ov), 2-82 (Hashim Amla, 25.6 ov), 3-131 (Jean-Paul Duminy, 48.4 ov), 4-154 (Faf du Plessis, 57.1 ov), 5-190 (Temba Bavuma, 66.4 ov), 6-194 (Kyle Abbott, 68.3 ov), 7-201 (Quinton de Kock, 73.1 ov), 8-235 (Vernon Philander, 81.6 ov), 9-250 (Kagiso Rabada, 84.5 ov), 10-250 (Stephen Cook, 85.2 ov)
AUS 2nd: 1-64 (David Warner, 18.3 ov), 2-64 (Usman Khawaja, 18.5 ov), 3-125 (Steven Smith, 39.6 ov)

CLOSE OF PLAY
Wed, 23 Nov - day 1 -Australia 1st innings 14 (Usman Khawaja 3*, Matt Renshaw 8*, 12 ov)
Thu, 24 Nov - day 2 -Australia 1st innings 307/6 (Usman Khawaja 138*, Mitchell Starc 16*, 102 ov)
Fri, 25 Nov - day 3 -South Africa 2nd innings 194/6 (Stephen Cook 81*, Quinton de Kock 0*, 69 ov)
Sat, 26 Nov - day 4 -Australia 2nd innings 127/3 (40.5 ov) - end of match


D/N Test 3: AUS V ENG
Australia 442/8d & 138 - England 227 & 233

Fall of wickets:
AUS 1st: 1-33 (Cameron Bancroft, 14.3 ov), 2-86 (David Warner, 33.1 ov), 3-139 (Usman Khawaja, 51.4 ov), 4-161 (Steven Smith, 62.1 ov), 5-209 (Peter Handscomb, 81.3 ov), 6-294 (Tim Paine, 107.5 ov), 7-311 (Mitchell Starc, 116.6 ov), 8-410 (Pat Cummins, 145.2 ov)
ENG 1st: 1-29 (Mark Stoneman, 6.6 ov), 2-31 (James Vince, 10.4 ov), 3-50 (Joe Root, 15.3 ov), 4-80 (Sir Alastair Cook, 28.1 ov), 5-102 (Dawid Malan, 37.1 ov), 6-132 (Moeen Ali, 48.2 ov), 7-142 (Jonny Bairstow, 53.1 ov), 8-208 (Chris Woakes, 69.4 ov), 9-227 (Stuart Broad, 74.4 ov), 10-227 (James Anderson, 76.1 ov)

AUS 2nd: 1-5 (Cameron Bancroft, 2.2 ov), 2-39 (Usman Khawaja, 18.4 ov), 3-41 (David Warner, 19.5 ov), 4-50 (Steven Smith, 23.2 ov), 5-71 (Nathan Lyon, 32.2 ov), 6-75 (Peter Handscomb, 34.4 ov), 7-90 (Tim Paine, 43.4 ov), 8-122 (Shaun Marsh, 51.2 ov), 9-128 (Mitchell Starc, 54.2 ov), 10-138 (Josh Hazlewood, 57.6 ov)
ENG 2nd: 1-53 (Sir Alastair Cook, 19.5 ov), 2-54 (Mark Stoneman, 23.3 ov), 3-91 (James Vince, 33.6 ov), 4-169 (Dawid Malan, 59.5 ov), 5-176 (Chris Woakes, 62.2 ov), 6-177 (Joe Root, 64.5 ov), 7-188 (Moeen Ali, 70.6 ov), 8-206 (Craig Overton, 80.1 ov), 9-224 (Stuart Broad, 82.6 ov), 10-233 (Jonny Bairstow, 84.2 ov)

CLOSE OF PLAY
Fri, 01 Dec - day 1 -Australia 1st innings 209/4 (Peter Handscomb 36*, Shaun Marsh 20*, 81 ov)
Sat, 02 Dec - day 2 -England 1st innings 29/1 (Sir Alastair Cook 11*, James Vince 0*, 9.1 ov)
Sun, 03 Dec - day 3 -Australia 2nd innings 53/4 (Peter Handscomb 3*, Nathan Lyon 3*, 26 ov)
Mon, 04 Dec - day 4 -England 2nd innings 176/4 (Joe Root 67*, Chris Woakes 5*, 62 ov)
Tue, 05 Dec - day 5 -England 2nd innings 233/10 (84.2 ov) - end of match

I hope, you will look into the information here......

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Eagerly waiting to see someone to fail, so that they can bash some other person and celebrate.
Beggers belief!
Get well soon.

It’s a horrible mentality.

 

[OffDrive]

This no technique Shaw look's like he is 40, India cheating again with their ages.

 

[Babbar]

This no technique Shaw look's like he is 40, India cheating again with their ages.

meditation will help you!

 

[Aman]

Pretty ordinary performance from India, batted slow only to find themselves in a hole.

Would have been all out had Kohli been given out caught behind.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Kohli was out. Lucky boy.

Don't forget Smith was our several times in India too in 2017. Sometimes you get lucky I suppose.

 

[BDfanforever]

Kohli was out. Lucky boy.

Don't forget Smith was our several times in India too in 2017. Sometimes you get lucky I suppose.

He was run out by Rahane.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

This no technique Shaw look's like he is 40, India cheating again with their ages.

- Could you perhaps throw light on the 'again' bit m8? and with examples please...cheers

 

[Buffet]

I request, please don't force me to waste time for a non existent theory.

Once for the last time, I'm telling you that these "tactical declaration" or batting towards that "tactical period" exists only in your mind. In Test cricket, there will be difficult periods for batting - like in England, first hour is always difficult, that doesn't mean team will slog around so that they can get all-out in 83 overs, then bowl with new ball few overs before day end and then in morning next day. And, show me one example where teams have declared first inning at say 302-6 at the start of Day 2, just because the condition suddenly has changed to seem friendly. Only tactical declaration that's been done is on 3rd innings, after a good lead or depending on how many overs possible in remaining time. Long back, when they played on uncovered tracks, sometimes there were "tactical declaration", but not in last 50 years.

Coming to Adelaide, for the first 3 Tests - I am not sure where you got this "bowling friendly" theory. Yesterday, it was damn difficult to bat and if India indeed puts 350 here, you'll see Aussie batting ... On same ground in a D/N Test last years Aussies did naughty things with PAK bowling talent......

Let's analyze the first three Tests - I don't have that much time, so I won't post long story here - I am just posting the match scorecard and day-end state ... if you know your cricket, match the wicket falling times and the day end score card, you'll understand .... I hope.

D/N Test 1: AUS V NZ
New Zealand 202 & 208 - Australia 224 & 187/7

Fall of Wickets:
NZ 1st: 1-7 (Martin Guptill, 3.2 ov), 2-59 (Kane Williamson, 23.4 ov), 3-94 (Tom Latham, 31.5 ov), 4-98 (Ross Taylor, 32.6 ov), 5-98 (Brendon McCullum, 33.3 ov), 6-142 (Mitchell Santner, 46.3 ov), 7-164 (Mark Craig, 52.3 ov), 8-184 (BJ Watling, 61.2 ov), 9-194 (Doug Bracewell, 62.2 ov), 10-202 (Tim Southee, 65.2 ov)

AUS 1st: 1-6 (David Warner, 3.2 ov), 2-34 (Joe Burns, 13.1 ov), 3-63 (Adam Voges, 24.4 ov), 4-67 (Shaun Marsh, 28.4 ov), 5-80 (Mitchell Marsh, 36.1 ov), 6-109 (Steven Smith, 48.2 ov), 7-109 (Peter Siddle, 48.6 ov), 8-116 (Josh Hazlewood, 51.5 ov), 9-190 (Nathan Lyon, 67.4 ov), 10-224 (Peter Nevill, 72.1 ov)

NZ 2nd: 1-29 (Martin Guptill, 12.3 ov), 2-32 (Tom Latham, 14.6 ov), 3-52 (Kane Williamson, 19.6 ov), 4-84 (Brendon McCullum, 25.2 ov), 5-98 (Ross Taylor, 28.3 ov), 6-116 (BJ Watling, 38.3 ov), 7-140 (Mark Craig, 46.5 ov), 8-175 (Mitchell Santner, 54.4 ov), 9-192 (Tim Southee, 59.2 ov), 10-208 (Trent Boult, 62.5 ov)
AUS 2nd: 1-34 (Joe Burns, 5.3 ov), 2-62 (David Warner, 12.1 ov), 3-66 (Steven Smith, 13.2 ov), 4-115 (Adam Voges, 29.2 ov), 5-161 (Mitchell Marsh, 38.3 ov), 6-176 (Shaun Marsh, 47.1 ov), 7-185 (Peter Nevill, 49.5 ov)

CLOSE OF PLAY
Thu, 26 Nov - day 1 -Australia 1st innings 54/2 (Steven Smith 24*, Adam Voges 9*, 22 ov)
Fri, 27 Nov - day 2 -New Zealand 2nd innings 116/5 (Mitchell Santner 13*, BJ Watling 7*, 37 ov)
Sat, 28 Nov - day 3 -Australia 2nd innings 187/7 (51 ov) - end of match


D/N Test 2: AUS V SAF
SAF: 259/9d & 250 - AUS 383 & 127/3

Fall of Wickets:
SAF 1st: 1-12 (Dean Elgar, 6.5 ov), 2-36 (Hashim Amla, 12.1 ov), 3-44 (Jean-Paul Duminy, 14.5 ov), 4-95 (Stephen Cook, 32.1 ov), 5-117 (Temba Bavuma, 42.1 ov), 6-149 (Quinton de Kock, 50.3 ov), 7-161 (Vernon Philander, 52.6 ov), 8-215 (Kyle Abbott, 67.6 ov), 9-220 (Kagiso Rabada, 70.1 ov)
AUS 1st: 1-19 (Matt Renshaw, 15.3 ov), 2-37 (David Warner, 21.6 ov), 3-174 (Steven Smith, 60.6 ov), 4-273 (Peter Handscomb, 86.1 ov), 5-277 (Nic Maddinson, 89.5 ov), 6-283 (Matthew Wade, 90.5 ov), 7-327 (Usman Khawaja, 108.5 ov), 8-357 (Mitchell Starc, 115.1 ov), 9-370 (Nathan Lyon, 116.3 ov), 10-383 (Jackson Bird, 121.1 ov)

SAF 2nd: 1-1 (Dean Elgar, 0.5 ov), 2-82 (Hashim Amla, 25.6 ov), 3-131 (Jean-Paul Duminy, 48.4 ov), 4-154 (Faf du Plessis, 57.1 ov), 5-190 (Temba Bavuma, 66.4 ov), 6-194 (Kyle Abbott, 68.3 ov), 7-201 (Quinton de Kock, 73.1 ov), 8-235 (Vernon Philander, 81.6 ov), 9-250 (Kagiso Rabada, 84.5 ov), 10-250 (Stephen Cook, 85.2 ov)
AUS 2nd: 1-64 (David Warner, 18.3 ov), 2-64 (Usman Khawaja, 18.5 ov), 3-125 (Steven Smith, 39.6 ov)

CLOSE OF PLAY
Wed, 23 Nov - day 1 -Australia 1st innings 14 (Usman Khawaja 3*, Matt Renshaw 8*, 12 ov)
Thu, 24 Nov - day 2 -Australia 1st innings 307/6 (Usman Khawaja 138*, Mitchell Starc 16*, 102 ov)
Fri, 25 Nov - day 3 -South Africa 2nd innings 194/6 (Stephen Cook 81*, Quinton de Kock 0*, 69 ov)
Sat, 26 Nov - day 4 -Australia 2nd innings 127/3 (40.5 ov) - end of match


D/N Test 3: AUS V ENG
Australia 442/8d & 138 - England 227 & 233

Fall of wickets:
AUS 1st: 1-33 (Cameron Bancroft, 14.3 ov), 2-86 (David Warner, 33.1 ov), 3-139 (Usman Khawaja, 51.4 ov), 4-161 (Steven Smith, 62.1 ov), 5-209 (Peter Handscomb, 81.3 ov), 6-294 (Tim Paine, 107.5 ov), 7-311 (Mitchell Starc, 116.6 ov), 8-410 (Pat Cummins, 145.2 ov)
ENG 1st: 1-29 (Mark Stoneman, 6.6 ov), 2-31 (James Vince, 10.4 ov), 3-50 (Joe Root, 15.3 ov), 4-80 (Sir Alastair Cook, 28.1 ov), 5-102 (Dawid Malan, 37.1 ov), 6-132 (Moeen Ali, 48.2 ov), 7-142 (Jonny Bairstow, 53.1 ov), 8-208 (Chris Woakes, 69.4 ov), 9-227 (Stuart Broad, 74.4 ov), 10-227 (James Anderson, 76.1 ov)

AUS 2nd: 1-5 (Cameron Bancroft, 2.2 ov), 2-39 (Usman Khawaja, 18.4 ov), 3-41 (David Warner, 19.5 ov), 4-50 (Steven Smith, 23.2 ov), 5-71 (Nathan Lyon, 32.2 ov), 6-75 (Peter Handscomb, 34.4 ov), 7-90 (Tim Paine, 43.4 ov), 8-122 (Shaun Marsh, 51.2 ov), 9-128 (Mitchell Starc, 54.2 ov), 10-138 (Josh Hazlewood, 57.6 ov)
ENG 2nd: 1-53 (Sir Alastair Cook, 19.5 ov), 2-54 (Mark Stoneman, 23.3 ov), 3-91 (James Vince, 33.6 ov), 4-169 (Dawid Malan, 59.5 ov), 5-176 (Chris Woakes, 62.2 ov), 6-177 (Joe Root, 64.5 ov), 7-188 (Moeen Ali, 70.6 ov), 8-206 (Craig Overton, 80.1 ov), 9-224 (Stuart Broad, 82.6 ov), 10-233 (Jonny Bairstow, 84.2 ov)

CLOSE OF PLAY
Fri, 01 Dec - day 1 -Australia 1st innings 209/4 (Peter Handscomb 36*, Shaun Marsh 20*, 81 ov)
Sat, 02 Dec - day 2 -England 1st innings 29/1 (Sir Alastair Cook 11*, James Vince 0*, 9.1 ov)
Sun, 03 Dec - day 3 -Australia 2nd innings 53/4 (Peter Handscomb 3*, Nathan Lyon 3*, 26 ov)
Mon, 04 Dec - day 4 -England 2nd innings 176/4 (Joe Root 67*, Chris Woakes 5*, 62 ov)
Tue, 05 Dec - day 5 -England 2nd innings 233/10 (84.2 ov) - end of match

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[tyron_woodley]

India will rue that run out. Only fair to Australia as India have been extremely lucky today. They must have been rolled out for under 180 but some balls didn't carry and that helped India.

He was run out by Rahane.

No Kohli was actually out at 25. Caught behind. He got lucky. They din't review.

This is why I am so angry. I can't rate players if they can't score runs flawlessly.

Smith too was extremely lucky in 2017 back in India. He was supposed to be out at least 5 times in the 1st test. 3 times in the third.

It's shocking.

Kohli too gets one or two lives every time he scored big.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I feel its pretty safe to say Prithvi Shaw's career is over.... Damn, still cant get over his awesome stroke play... Hope he makes it outside of cricket and do something with his life..

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

No Kohli was actually out at 25. Caught behind. He got lucky. They din't review.

This is why I am angry. I can't rate players if they can't score runs flawlessly.

Smith too was extremely lucky in 2017 back in India. He was supposed to be out at least 5 times in the 1st test. 3 times in the third.

It's shocking.

Kohli too gets one or two lives every time he scored big.

All I will says is on dicey pitches and tough conditions, quality of oppo etc, scoring runs flawlessly would be a hard ask. That said-I'd rate SS's 100 at Poona - 1st test 2017 as the best knock of the 2010's. He also got about 4 lifes but he also made the best of the lives he was given and his 2nd innings 100 was the difference - it was an ATG knock.