"India, Russia can take down their dead economies together, I don't care": Donald Trump's latest jibe

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Trump says US does very little business with India, almost none with Russia

US President Donald Trump, after 25 per cent tariff move on India, said: “I don't care what India does with Russia”, adding that, “have done very little business with India, their tariffs are too high, among highest in the world.”

Trump said that the United States has done very little business with India, and that Russia and the US do almost no business together.

He wrote: "I don’t care what India does with Russia. They can take their dead economies down together, for all I care. We have done very little business with India, their Tariffs are too high, among the highest in the World. Likewise, Russia and the USA do almost no business together. Let’s keep it that way, and tell Medvedev, the failed former President of Russia, who thinks he’s still President, to watch his words. He’s entering very dangerous territory!:"

I dont care what India does with Russia: Donald Trumps new post after 25% tariff move - The Tribune

I dont care what India does with Russia: Donald Trumps new post after 25% tariff move.

www.tribuneindia.com

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@Rajdeep won't you speak now #friday #WhereisHowdyModiNow

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@Rajdeep won't you speak now #friday #WhereisHowdyModiNow

#RajdeepAvoidsTimePassForumOnFriday

 

[Rajdeep]

@Rajdeep won't you speak now #friday #WhereisHowdyModiNow

What you want me to say? Trump is clearly rattled that India is doing business with Russia.

He wants to boss India like the way they treat Pakistan. I mean the entire reason Imran Khan was ousted from power and send to jail because he went to meet Putin, isn't it?

However, India is a self respected nation. They will not take dictation from Amreeka.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What you want me to say? Trump is clearly rattled that India is doing business with Russia.

He wants to boss India like the way they treat Pakistan. I mean the entire reason Imran Khan was ousted from power and send to jail because he went to meet Putin, isn't it?

However, India is a self respected nation. They will not take dictation from Amreeka.

 

[straighttalk]

Looks like someone didn't surrender...and the other party was boot licking as usual

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Looks like someone didn't surrender...and the other party was boot licking as usual

Are we talking about Surender Mowgli?

 

[sweep_shot]

India definitely have an overrated economy. It is more like quantity over quality.

So, Trump is right in a way.

 

[ahsan17]

What you want me to say? Trump is clearly rattled that India is doing business with Russia.

He wants to boss India like the way they treat Pakistan. I mean the entire reason Imran Khan was ousted from power and send to jail because he went to meet Putin, isn't it?

However, India is a self respected nation. They will not take dictation from Amreeka.

Did you intentionally ignore Pakistan's relationship with China?

 

[Mamoon]

All of this is a result of Pakistan humiliating India on the war front.

Trump has lost respect for India. He also realized that India’s economic projections are a hoax.

The Indian bubble has burst, all because of its laughably incompetent IAF that Pakistan brutally exposed and destroyed India’s image in front of Trump.

Dolaaand Trump has no respect for weaklings. He knows Asim Munir is the real boss in South Asian geopolitics not the uneducated, cowardly PM running a cowardly country like India.

 

[emranabbas]

Donald trump ne to india pe hi hamla kar diya

 

[Rajdeep]

Did you intentionally ignore Pakistan's relationship with China?

Relationship of slave and his pay master.

Khudgarz bano...kaabil bano. Gulam nehi.

 

[Rajdeep]

All of this is a result of Pakistan humiliating India on the war front.

Trump has lost respect for India. He also realized that India’s economic projections are a hoax.

The Indian bubble has burst, all because of its laughably incompetent IAF that Pakistan brutally exposed and destroyed India’s image in front of Trump.

Dolaaand Trump has no respect for weaklings. He knows Asim Munir is the real boss in South Asian geopolitics not the uneducated, cowardly PM running a cowardly country like India.

Trump and JD Vance on 7th may after India's successful Op sindoor - we dont want to interfere and both countries will sort it out.

Trump on 10th May - ceasefire now.

What happened between 7th and 10th may is something we need to understand and that will make things clear who got humiliated.

Pakistan has won the war & narrative in social media though. No one denies it.

In real life however, Pakistanis and their next 10 generations will think twice before doing another terrorist attack on India. Ghar me ghuske pitai jo hui hai.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

These types of skirmishes are common in the subcontinent. Party workers spend many hard years campaigning for their leader only to be forgotten by their qonce power is secured. In this instance despite Modis election campaigning for Trump, he was brutally pushed aside when he was no longer required.

We can put it down to naivety and lack of political acumen from Modi, hopefully he learns his lesson.

 

[Mamoon]

Trump and JD Vance on 7th may after India's successful Op sindoor - we dont want to interfere and both countries will sort it out.

Trump on 10th May - ceasefire now.

What happened between 7th and 10th may is something we need to understand and that will make things clear who got humiliated.

Pakistan has won the war & narrative in social media though. No one denies it.

In real life however, Pakistanis and their next 10 generations will think twice before doing another terrorist attack on India. Ghar me ghuske pitai jo hui hai.

There is no ceasefire without terms and conditions. I know you don’t know the first thing about IR, but I can help you.

If Pakistan requested a ceasefire after India “destroyed its nuclear facilities”, what terms and conditions were imposed by India to implement the ceasefire?

 

[Mamoon]

@Rajdeep

By IR, I mean International Relations, not Indian Railway. I thought I might have to clear this up

 

[Rajdeep]

There is no ceasefire without terms and conditions. I know you don’t know the first thing about IR, but I can help you.

If Pakistan requested a ceasefire after India “destroyed its nuclear facilities”, what terms and conditions were imposed by India to implement the ceasefire?

USA has lots of stake and their arsenals are hidden in Pakistani nuclear sites.

So when India struck Nur Khan Airbase along with 10 other bases on 2.30am of 10th May, Amreeka became paranoid. Then Trump chachu intervened and took credit of ceasefire.

India had no reason to not accept and their operation was over on 7th May. They were only retaliating.

Pakistan on the other hand launched operation Bunyan Marsoos and they have to abandon it after Trump's tweet.

There is absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind who came as winner of this war.

That is why you will not hear a single Pakistani ever talks about the net result of this battle. All discussion (trolling) is around how many jets went down, Indian soldier captured etc. Wars go down and soldiers die in a war. But the ultimate result is not dependent on those.

 

[Bhaijaan]

All of this is a result of Pakistan humiliating India on the war front.

Trump has lost respect for India. He also realized that India’s economic projections are a hoax.

The Indian bubble has burst, all because of its laughably incompetent IAF that Pakistan brutally exposed and destroyed India’s image in front of Trump.

Dolaaand Trump has no respect for weaklings. He knows Asim Munir is the real boss in South Asian geopolitics not the uneducated, cowardly PM running a cowardly country like India.

Assuming just for argument’s sake that everything you say is true. Let’s say India is indeed a defeated nation with a laughably incompetent leadership and a dead economy, humiliated beyond recovery by Pakistan.

Now, if that were the case, why then would the United States...

• Be eager to sell its expensive defense platforms like the F-35s, Predator drones, and GE jet engines to India and not Pakistan?
• Pressurize India to open up its agriculture and dairy sectors to American multinational giants instead of going to Pakistan for it?
• Have India in the QUAD and not Pakistan?
• Propose permanent military logistics sharing agreements like COMCASA and BECA to India & not to Pakistan?
• Prioritize India’s inclusion in cutting-edge technology agreements like the iCET framework for semiconductors, AI, quantum computing, and critical minerals & not Pakistan?
• Give Indian PM the red carpet welcome and allow him to speak in front of the senate & not Pakistan?
• Have Apple shift its manufacturing bases, & all its major Tech giants open mega centres worth billions of dollars of investment and job creation opportunities in India & not Pakistan?
• Continue to back India for a permanent seat at the UN Security Council & not Pakistan?

If Asim Munir really is the “real boss” of South Asia, it’s curious how no one in the world is inviting him to global summits. India hosts G20, gets invites to G7, BRICS, SCO, QUAD, I2U2… Pakistan doesn’t even get observer passes.

If losing a few Rafales to Pakistan once every few years comes with all the above mentioned benefits, i personally believe its not a bad trade at all and i would want India to ritually let Pakistan take down a dozen Rafales once every 3 years to keep this going.

Congratulations to Pakistanis and enjoy the catering service contracts to American military bases. We want no part of it.

Good luck on the oil exploration too. We will buy 1 million barrels per day. $40/barrel?

 

[ElRaja]

india was seen as a strategic counterbalance to china by the usa over the past decade, decade and a half, however after their ill fated adventurism in May showed the world they are not a meaningful strategic counter to Chinas influence, america has little to gain from cowtoeing to an increasingly insular and cut off regime.

 

[bones]

Something we should all be fully aware of now. Trump talks big and sometimes very nasty, but it's not what he says we should pay attention to, but rather what he does.

 

[bones]

india was seen as a strategic counterbalance to china by the usa over the past decade, decade and a half, however after their ill fated adventurism in May showed the world they are not a meaningful strategic counter to Chinas influence, america has little to gain from cowtoeing to an increasingly insular and cut off regime.

I am a low level manager at my software company. I currently have 4 guys reporting to me and my management have delegated the management of 6 others on a short term basis.

From the 10 resources 7 are Indian born nationals here in the UK on Work Visas.

There isn't a single Pakistani born national on a visa in our entire department of approximately 800.

The point I'm making is, India has a lot of influence in one of the most important sectors - IT.

 

[ElRaja]

I am a low level manager at my software company. I currently have 4 guys reporting to me and my management have delegated the management of 6 others on a short term basis.

From the 10 resources 7 are Indian born nationals here in the UK on Work Visas.

There isn't a single Pakistani born national on a visa in our entire department of approximately 800.

The point I'm making is, India has a lot of influence in one of the most important sectors - IT.

how does that create any global geopolitical influence? if push comes to shove, none of these indian workers is choosing india over their adoptive countries and livelihoods.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I am a low level manager at my software company. I currently have 4 guys reporting to me and my management have delegated the management of 6 others on a short term basis.

From the 10 resources 7 are Indian born nationals here in the UK on Work Visas.

There isn't a single Pakistani born national on a visa in our entire department of approximately 800.

The point I'm making is, India has a lot of influence in one of the most important sectors - IT.

What influence do these Indians have? They will lock a few computers and delete some files?

 

[bones]

how does that create any global geopolitical influence? if push comes to shove, none of these indian workers is choosing india over their adoptive countries and livelihoods.

It does have influence maybe not the same as China or Europe, but it has influence and to deny it is the same braindead attitude that people had towards Russia.

I have spoken to all 7 of the Indians working for me. Not all of them want to give up their Indian nationality. Only 3 from 7 have said they will apply for British nationality when they qualify.

 

[bones]

What influence do these Indians have? They will lock a few computers and delete some files?

If you don't have a grasp of the many many different types of IT services out there and how they are critical to companies across all sectors, then perhaps you should first start there.

Our customers are some of the largest in the world and in many cases these Indian resources are critical because they may be the single point of contact.

The point I'm trying to make is, don't belittle something you don't fully understand.

If for example there was some event that forced the collective west to sanction India like they did with Russia and ask for work visa staff to go home. My company would be looking at huge losses - probably in the hundreds of millions.

 

[ElRaja]

It does have influence maybe not the same as China or Europe, but it has influence and to deny it is the same braindead attitude that people had towards Russia.

I have spoken to all 7 of the Indians working for me. Not all of them want to give up their Indian nationality. Only 3 from 7 have said they will apply for British nationality when they qualify.

you still havnt explained how that translates into the real geopolitical influence, look at the way the usa treats israel, that is real political influence.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Trump wants India to surrender asap. But India is playing hard to get. So he is taking jibes and hoping India would blink.

If India is so insignificant, why is he talking so much about it? If India can go to hell, then sure he does not care about business with India. But his constant talk about India says otherwise.

 

[Champ_Pal]

you still havnt explained how that translates into the real geopolitical influence, look at the way the usa treats israel, that is real political influence.

Israel is strategic and Jews hold lot of economic clout in US. Not to forget much of Republican vote base has religious significance in Israel. They will not let Jihadis from Hamas take over the holy land. No US president wants that to happen under their watch.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

 

[Bhaijaan]

@DeadlyVenom @Mamoon @RexRex @deltexas

Hasn’t been a great week for Trump ever since these few tweets. Trump expected India to get rattled and come running to him with their tail between the legs. But it didn’t happen.

Modi basically gave him the middle finger by not backtracking on buying Russian and Iranian oil. Business as usual.

Word is India’s also told QUAD partners they might pull out of the alliance. And this is happening just as Chinese state TV is openly talking about invading Taiwan. Important to remember it wasn’t even the US that got India into the QUAD in the first place, it was Murhoom Shinzo Abe, the ex Japanese PM who thought India to be crucial to keeping China in check in the Indo-Pacific. India pulling out of QUAD in current scenario is going to be a diplomatic blow.

On the side, India’s also closing in on a Sukhoi 57s deal with Russia with complete source code sharing allegedly.

Trump’s random digs on India cozying up to Pakistan also fell flat on most people. Even Pakistanis this time shared they just enjoyed the trolling behind these jibes but didn’t believe anything Trump said about Pakistan and how it could benefit them. The so called trade deal also wasn’t massively celebrated across Pakistan, after all the Bhangra & trolling, the deal was Meh and that’s not me but most Pakistani people’s opinions I saw over the internet.

Trump didn’t understand that India isn’t really a massively export-reliant economy like China so tariff threats didn’t scare us the way Trump thought they would.

Also fun fact, while TACO Trump’s been making all this noise about India buying Russian & Iranian oil, it quietly left refined petroleum products exempt from the tariffs.

 

[Technics 1210]

you still havnt explained how that translates into the real geopolitical influence, look at the way the usa treats israel, that is real political influence.

The way USA treats Isreal is real political influence? You mean the other way round, real political influence is how Isreal controls USA politicians/government - which is now an open secret.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Wow so finally he is showing some signs of being 56 inch chest or Fekuness will overcome again

@DeadlyVenom @Mamoon @RexRex @deltexas

Hasn’t been a great week for Trump ever since these few tweets. Trump expected India to get rattled and come running to him with their tail between the legs. But it didn’t happen.

Modi basically gave him the middle finger by not backtracking on buying Russian and Iranian oil. Business as usual.

Word is India’s also told QUAD partners they might pull out of the alliance. And this is happening just as Chinese state TV is openly talking about invading Taiwan. Important to remember it wasn’t even the US that got India into the QUAD in the first place, it was Murhoom Shinzo Abe, the ex Japanese PM who thought India to be crucial to keeping China in check in the Indo-Pacific. India pulling out of QUAD in current scenario is going to be a diplomatic blow.

On the side, India’s also closing in on a Sukhoi 57s deal with Russia with complete source code sharing allegedly.

Trump’s random digs on India cozying up to Pakistan also fell flat on most people. Even Pakistanis this time shared they just enjoyed the trolling behind these jibes but didn’t believe anything Trump said about Pakistan and how it could benefit them. The so called trade deal also wasn’t massively celebrated across Pakistan, after all the Bhangra & trolling, the deal was Meh and that’s not me but most Pakistani people’s opinions I saw over the internet.

Trump didn’t understand that India isn’t really a massively export-reliant economy like China so tariff threats didn’t scare us the way Trump thought they would.

Also fun fact, while TACO Trump’s been making all this noise about India buying Russian & Iranian oil, it quietly left refined petroleum products exempt from the tariffs.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@DeadlyVenom @Mamoon @RexRex @deltexas

Hasn’t been a great week for Trump ever since these few tweets. Trump expected India to get rattled and come running to him with their tail between the legs. But it didn’t happen.

Modi basically gave him the middle finger by not backtracking on buying Russian and Iranian oil. Business as usual.

Word is India’s also told QUAD partners they might pull out of the alliance. And this is happening just as Chinese state TV is openly talking about invading Taiwan. Important to remember it wasn’t even the US that got India into the QUAD in the first place, it was Murhoom Shinzo Abe, the ex Japanese PM who thought India to be crucial to keeping China in check in the Indo-Pacific. India pulling out of QUAD in current scenario is going to be a diplomatic blow.

On the side, India’s also closing in on a Sukhoi 57s deal with Russia with complete source code sharing allegedly.

Trump’s random digs on India cozying up to Pakistan also fell flat on most people. Even Pakistanis this time shared they just enjoyed the trolling behind these jibes but didn’t believe anything Trump said about Pakistan and how it could benefit them. The so called trade deal also wasn’t massively celebrated across Pakistan, after all the Bhangra & trolling, the deal was Meh and that’s not me but most Pakistani people’s opinions I saw over the internet.

Trump didn’t understand that India isn’t really a massively export-reliant economy like China so tariff threats didn’t scare us the way Trump thought they would.

Also fun fact, while TACO Trump’s been making all this noise about India buying Russian & Iranian oil, it quietly left refined petroleum products exempt from the tariffs.

We are happy that Indians didn't get rattled and thought they can take on USA from a Pakistani perspective that's what we wanted. We are also not fussed if India pulls out of QUAD. We also want that.

 

[ElRaja]

The way USA treats Isreal is real political influence? You mean the other way round, real political influence is how Isreal controls USA politicians/government - which is now an open secret.

thats what i meant, the usa treats israel like its special because jews own huge chunks of the american economy, yes theres a lot of ethnically indian ceos, but ceos are still working for the owners at the end of the day.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Wow so finally he is showing some signs of being 56 inch chest

This is exactly the kind of moment where the strength of democratic institutions really shows.

Modi is no saint and no one’s pretending he’s flawless. He has his blind spots especially when it comes to economic strategy due to his limited formal education. But in Modi’s case the strong fundamentals of our economy and strong democratic institutions have his back.

Trump tried to play a classic strongman game. But that’s where he misunderstood India. India punches collectively as a nation. Modi is just the face and the manifestation of our courage and resolve. The Indian system for all its chaos is still remarkably resilient.

 

[Bhaijaan]

We are happy that Indians didn't get rattled and thought they can take on USA from a Pakistani perspective that's what we wanted. We are also not fussed if India pulls out of QUAD. We also want that.

We’ll see in the next few weeks or months where QUAD really stands.

For India the stakes aren’t that high. We’re only part of it to flex our dominant position in the Indian Ocean. That’s all. India is not America’s lieutenant and we never signed up to play that role.

If China wants to make a move on Taiwan, we are not going to be jumping to the battle scene just for the Americans. India doesn’t have a dog in that fight. Global supply chains have already started to adapt. Ming-Chi Foxconn etc are already shifting iPhone production to India and India is becoming a serious player in the semiconductor race. Very soon we will have those 3 nm chips and we are masters at designing anyway.

As I’ve said in other threads, artificial monopolies won’t hold India back for long. The world has learned some tough lessons over the last few years especially about the dangers of putting all your eggs in one geopolitical basket. Whether it’s semiconductors, rare earths, or weapons systems, new supply chains are being built, and India is right there in the thick of it.

Neither the US nor China can be allowed to weaponize global trade and technology ever again. That era is coming to an end and India is at the forefront of it really. Vietnam, Mexico, Brazil, Indonesia have done some great work here and there to attract FDI but collectively when you take into account defense industry, electronics, pharmaceuticals, IT, garments, infra, mining, green energy etc etc no other country in the world is collectively packing a punch like India in the a world looking beyond US & China.

 

[HalBass9]

All India had to do was swallow its pride and acknowledge that Trump brokered the ceasefire with Pakistan. That’s it. A little credit, and Trump would’ve strutted off, satisfied, leaving India alone. By now, Modi could’ve been giving victory speeches in front of factories freshly airlifted from China. But no, “image” was more important.

 

[LordJames]

August 4, 2025: Stock Market

https://www.cnn.com/markets

Dow has rallied and it is up 553 points...

 

[Technics 1210]

Made in China is bought within China and outside of China.

Made in India is hardly bought in India let alone outside of India.

Manufacturing is India's next bet, all else has failed, but Trump may have other plans.

 

[Technics 1210]

What influence do these Indians have? They will lock a few computers and delete some files?

They have squat influence.

Indian IT and Indian IT personal is a dying breed with AI now.

This is the problem when you follow a script, you get automated.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Trump needs to prove that Indian Rupee is funding Ukraine war. Its silly to ask a nation not to buy oil from a 3rd country because of x and y reasons.

India also needs to seriously look into their role in BRICS. If India has to be in BRICS, they need better relations with China. What is the point of being in BRICS when China is actively undermining India by supplying arms to Pakistan which is not part of BRICS? It is totally ridiculous. India needs to make up its mind on their alliance with China or US. They do not have to antagonize either of US or China. But they need to have better terms with those nations for working with them.

 

[Champ_Pal]

They have squat influence.

Indian IT and Indian IT personal is a dying breed with AI now.

This is the problem when you follow a script, you get automated.

While I agree with the part of Indian IT going to suffer due to AI, India having little influence is ridiculous. No country can ignore a 4T economy. India has a growing middle class with increasing disposable income to which all these multi national corporations can sell their products. So you thinking that India is some dirt poor African country is baseless.

You are thinking India in terms to Pakistan. India is not Pakistan. Your country's population is still exploding with no sight of slowing down. Indian GDP percapita is $2,800 while Pakistan is $1,800. Indian percapita is $1000 more than Pakistan despite have 6 times that of Pakistan's population.

 

[Rafale Nidhal]

the response from some indians here shows why india as a country is never taken seriously by others.

 

[Bhaijaan]

NSA Ajit Doval is in Moscow today to meet President Putin.

Oil purchase, Su-57s, S-400s & Ukraine war, RIC etc on the discussion agenda as India prepares its strategy to deal with a hostile Trump.