Muhammad Saad
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That’s a very brave move by Modi
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This is what happens when you try to play nice with everyone and avoid taking sides.India trying hard to find new best friend now after USA ditched them.
Incredibly naive of you to think China will ever be buddies with IndiaTrump underestimated the resolve of Sanatan. This is the lineage of Sanatanis who resisted the sword for a thousand years, refusing to budge from their Dharma.
Those with a history of yielding under pressure, expectedly did it once again. But Modi's Bharat will fight this to the end. A new world order is on its way, and Modi Ji, Putin Ji, Xi ChingPing and Lula Ji will drive this change.
I know, that's why Xi's name got no respect from me above, unlike the other three. No one expects China to be a buddy, but we need them.Incredibly naive of you to think China will ever be buddies with India![]()
At the moment, because of Modi's blunders, India has nothing to showTrump underestimated the resolve of Sanatan. This is the lineage of Sanatanis who resisted the sword for a thousand years, refusing to budge from their Dharma.
Those with a history of yielding under pressure, expectedly did it once again. But Modi's Bharat will fight this to the end. A new world order is on its way, and Modi Ji, Putin Ji, Xi ChingPing and Lula Ji will drive this change.
Sticking to principles won't always have something to show, there might even be much to lose. Handful of global leaders have earned my respect in these times, happy to report that Modi Ji is one of them.At the moment, because of Modi's blunders, India has nothing to show
I am hoping for more tariff so Modi can earn more of your respect.Sticking to principles won't always have something to show, there might even be much to lose. Handful of global leaders have earned my respect in these times, happy to report that Modi Ji is one of them.
I think Modi's main principle is to win the next election (Bihar?) and the one after that and the one....and he's stuck to it admirably. Other than that, I'm not sure.Sticking to principles won't always have something to show, there might even be much to lose. Handful of global leaders have earned my respect in these times, happy to report that Modi Ji is one of them.
Absurd.There is a possibility of Russia, China and India forming coalition to tackle Trump's tarrif and later other BRICS nations will join them
Absolutely correct take on the situation but the sycophancy which India did and which Pakistan is doing now...nominating for peace prize..thanking him for saving Pakistan from Brahmos etf..works because he is president of himself and not of USAI respect that India asserts its national interests in the face of US pressure by buying Russian oil, and wish Pakistan would act similarly and implements the gas deal with Iran.
However what deserves no respect whatsoever was the nauseating sycophancy towards Trump in his first term which has totally backfired.
Russia is not brutally murdering it's neighbor for shits and giggles...you need to have better geopolitical education...and ask why does a powerful rivals needs alliances and bases 300 km away from Moscow and turn a Russian populated country ..ex Soviet Union into a NATO ally...what would USA do if Russia established military bases in MexicoAbsurd.
- We need to take production and jobs from China and compete with them intensely.
- Russia is a 'dead' oil and military equipment dependant economy that's brutally murdering it's neighbours
Long term, the US is still our most logical partner. The biggest consuming economy that (despite Trump's tantrums) needs cheaper products and services that we can sell to them to create jobs at home.
We just need to be low key, weather this storm, give Trump a few doable concessions, agree but drag our feet on the more sensitive ones (e.g. dairy) and massage his ego a bit. If the EU can do it, we can.
Nothing's changed here strategically despite all the temporary noise.
Yes I see all the countries running to Pakistan to sign trade deals and have a piece of the Madrassa market ...how many companies are opening up in RawalapindiOnce upon a time India tried to isolate Pakistan.
Those are not the same. Does India care about Ukranians..no. Russia is a time tested ally and it makes economic sense. Unlike you all whose bleeding heart beats for Muslims everywhere from Kashmir to Gaza except China and whose daily utterances is about Muslim ummah and protecting Islam using the N bomb etc.And the hypocrisy of accusing Pakistanis of not caring about the Uighur Muslims because of the relations with China, when the same can be said of buying Russian oil at the expense of the Ukrainians.
I think we can all agree that we can criticise our Government’s foreign policies.
Absolutely correct take on the situation but the sycophancy which India did and which Pakistan is doing now...nominating for peace prize..thanking him for saving Pakistan from Brahmos etf..works because he is president of himself and not of USA
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India claims to care for humanity does it not? Pakistan might also claim to care about Muslims but realpolitik for self-interest comes first. However, I don’t personally agree with Pakistan’s stance and it should raise the issue with China.Those are not the same. Does India care about Ukranians..no. Russia is a time tested ally and it makes economic sense. Unlike you all whose bleeding heart beats for Muslims everywhere from Kashmir to Gaza except China and whose daily utterances is about Muslim ummah and protecting Islam using the N bomb etc.
Looks like PAF and China didn’t just drop India’s most advanced jets, they also blew a hole through India’s most strategic western alliance. All of it could’ve been avoided, but one man’s ego had to be fed to maintain a carefully manufactured image for the domestic crowd. This is what happens when ego outweighs national interest.
Trump considers India irrelevant too, considering how he is seen treating you the same way as he has been treating Brazil, Philippines etc.Dear @HalBass9,
Outside of Pakistan and the anti-Modi political circles in India, the global media isn’t giving the Pakistan angle in Indo-US relations much attention. International media is looking at it more in the broader US vs BRICS context.
So do not flatter yourself. Pakistan hasn’t yet arrived in global economic discourse. Your GDP is surviving largely on IMF handouts and your industries barely compete with other regional economic powers. Trump mentions Pakistan only in relation to India. The hyphenation attempt is obvious and no one’s missing it, including most learned Pakistanis.
That said, in geopolitics Pakistan is undeniably a crucial regional player especially for American strategic interests. That much most will agree on because it’s a fact. The US has always sought an agreeable, controllable, and ready for sale kind of a mercenary partner in the region which wouldnt ask for respect, genuine investments and to be treated on equal footing but is content with swift transfers to designated Swiss bank accounts and in Pakistani military dictatorship they found the ideal match. That’s just that. You are as a country largely irrelevant for now in global economic discussions.
Trump considers India irrelevant too, considering how he is seen treating you the same way as he has been treating Brazil, Philippines etc.
What you have said about Pakistan is correct, no qualms about that. Our dictatorship has sold its soul to the next available master with the most handouts to give, however that’s an entirely different discussion. But for you to think Trump is considering India as an equal to the US is as big a joke as your whole country is right now![]()
You're pretty naive. None of all the countries and despotic leaders who have murdered thousands even millions all through history have done it for shits and giggles. Doesn't make any of them right.Russia is not brutally murdering it's neighbor for shits and giggles...you need to have better geopolitical education...and ask why does a powerful rivals needs alliances and bases 300 km away from Moscow and turn a Russian populated country ..ex Soviet Union into a NATO ally...what would USA do if Russia established military bases in Mexico
Bhaijaan, I’m simply citing what Bloomberg reported, only this time through an Indian source, since some folks only consider Indian media credible, especially when India finds itself cornered.Dear @HalBass9,
Outside of Pakistan and the anti-Modi political circles in India, the global media isn’t giving the Pakistan angle in Indo-US relations much attention. International media is looking at it more in the broader US vs BRICS context.
So do not flatter yourself. Pakistan hasn’t yet arrived in global economic discourse. Your GDP is surviving largely on IMF handouts and your industries barely compete with other regional economic powers. Trump mentions Pakistan only in relation to India. The hyphenation attempt is obvious and no one’s missing it, including most learned Pakistanis.
That said, in geopolitics Pakistan is undeniably a crucial regional player especially for American strategic interests. That much most will agree on because it’s a fact. The US has always sought an agreeable, controllable, and ready for sale kind of a mercenary partner in the region which wouldnt ask for respect, genuine investments and to be treated on equal footing but is content with swift transfers to designated Swiss bank accounts and in Pakistani military dictatorship they found the ideal match. That’s just that. You are as a country largely irrelevant for now in global economic discussions.
It’s only a matter of time before the Indian government accepts reality, they're just busy figuring out how to spin it to look like a "masterstroke." The moment they crack the PR formula, you'll start hearing, “India chose this path,” “India led the way,” and every call center propagandist will be deployed to flood the narrative.![]()
India’s State-Owned Refiners Halt Russian Oil Imports as US Doubles Tariffs
India's state-owned oil refiners halt Russian crude purchases amid rising US tariffs, impacting October-loading Urals cargoes and market dynamics.united24media.com
Looks like the Indian defiance is wilting.
We are not in the PPpeasing businessThis performative urge to showcase strategic superiority for domestic applause does India no favors. India need to appease Trump, he is a temporary storm. He’ll be gone soon, likely leaving the Republican Party in shambles. The odds favor a Democrat taking over, and historically, Democratic administrations have been more sympathetic toward India anyway.
What we’re seeing is an ego clash, not a strategy. India doesn’t possess strategic superiority, only the US, Russia, and China can claim that. A pragmatic Indian would be angling for a deal, maximizing gains from a volatile situation. But the nationalist Indian? busy beating 56 inch chest for an audience at home. That bravado has humiliated India on the global stage more than once, and it looks like history might be on repeat.
It’s only a matter of time before the Indian government accepts reality, they're just busy figuring out how to spin it to look like a "masterstroke." The moment they crack the PR formula, you'll start hearing, “India chose this path,” “India led the way,” and every call center propagandist will be deployed to flood the narrative.
As for India stopping oil purchases from Russia. It’ll spike global oil prices. One of the main reasons the US (especially the Democrats) looked the other way was to keep oil prices in check. Pull that plug, and it’s everyone’s pain at the pump.
Wouldn’t that be rejected by the courts, I.e. denaturalisation?India is choosing protectionism and right now it looks like the right play. The bigger question is how far President Trump intends to take this. Today it was a 50% tariff. What's next? Will Trump start revoking H1B permits for India? Will Trump start attempting to denaturalise Indian-born US citizens? Will Trump start imposing labor tarriffs on Indian labor?
If you start seeing things like this, India may actually start having problems.
I've said it before, but the mood here in the US is not just about Mexicans and Venezuelans. There is a genuine rage among many here about how many tech jobs have been taken by Indians after previous administrations told our youth that they needed to learn IT and STEM subjects, only to see those jobs go to overseas applicants.
Pakistan is a joke economicalky and militarily too..it's reduced to false propaganda and bravado aka all the Muslim countries..protect their image domestically and lose every war in their nations history against non Muslim countries...Bhaijaan, I’m simply citing what Bloomberg reported, only this time through an Indian source, since some folks only consider Indian media credible, especially when India finds itself cornered.
What I fail to understand is, what does any of this have to do with Pakistan’s economy? The topic here isn’t Pakistan economy, it’s a 35 minute phone call and a clash of egos between Trump’s America and Modi’s India.
Dragging Pakistan’s economy into this is a deflection. Let’s not kid ourselves, Pakistan is economically irrelevant on the global stage, just like India was made militarily irrelevant during the recent skirmish, despite flaunting some of the world’s most expensive jets.
So again, this isn’t about Pakistan. It’s about how one phone call flipped the script, exposed fragile egos, and temporarily strained a strategic partnership.
Every country cares about humanity...but do you see Indian govt preaching about humanity like Paksitan does Abt Gaza and Palestine..it's not the same. You can say Indian purchase is helping Russia but I don't see Russia as the aggressors here.India claims to care for humanity does it not? Pakistan might also claim to care about Muslims but realpolitik for self-interest comes first. However, I don’t personally agree with Pakistan’s stance and it should raise the issue with China.
LMAO..make up your mind..first modi surrendered to Trump ..now modi calling. Out bs claims of Trump intervention is his ego..this is the problem...I think personally he has have kept Trump making his claims and enjoyed the spoils of the war where India utterly destroyed and dominated Pakistan and Chinese weapons..the satellite images XGuard decoys social media videos of panicked terrorists ..airbase cratered for months..those were enough..let Paksitan lick the behind and nominate for noble prizes and fool their awam..who caresA 35-Minute Phone Call Between PM Modi And Donald Trump Triggered US Tariff Bomb On India:
A tense 35-minute call between PM Modi and Donald Trump in June may have lit the fuse on the escalating US-India trade war, says a Bloomberg report. Modi reportedly set the record straight on India's role in the ceasefire with Pakistan, warning Trump against legitimising the Pakistani military by hosting Army Chief Munir at the White House. India rejected any suggestion of US mediation, and Modi declined a visit to the White House. What followed, according to the report, was a clear shift—Trump began lashing out at India, ultimately imposing a brutal 50% tariff and calling India’s economy “dead.” Could one call have broken a decade of strategic trust? This story reveals how a clash of egos, Pakistan's shadow, and a diplomatic rebuke may have derailed India-US ties in real time.
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A 35-Minute Phone Call Between PM Modi And Donald Trump Triggered US Tariff Bomb On India: Report
A tense 35-minute call between PM Modi and Donald Trump in June may have lit the fuse on the escalating US-India trade war, says a Bloomberg report. Modi reportedly set the record straight on India's role in the ceasefire with Pakistan, warning Trump against legitimising the Pakistani military...timesofindia.indiatimes.com
Looks like PAF and China didn’t just drop India’s most advanced jets, they also blew a hole through India’s most strategic western alliance. All of it could’ve been avoided, but one man’s ego had to be fed to maintain a carefully manufactured image for the domestic crowd. This is what happens when ego outweighs national interest.
Whatever lie helps you to sleep better and not face the reality of your countrys base blasted out ..not once but 11 places ..you can utter it 2000 times.. won't change the facts on the ground....Now matter how much you rant and rave and try to change reality.... its not happening.
Aside from all the other damage Pakistan inflicted, by far the biggest is Pakistan imposing a no fly zone over Indian air space as per your own CDS just like Isreal did over Iran. Have some shame and stop ranting lies at every corner thinking that if a lie is repeated enough times, it will become a fact. No it will not, and people like me will keep reminding you of it.
Why is Modi now running to China? They actively took part in your humiliation in May and yet Modi is running to Xi now.
Modi 2025 is a gift that keeps on giving. First humiliation by Pakistan and China and now by USA.
Yeah Putin is a really nice guy.Every country cares about humanity...but do you see Indian govt preaching about humanity like Paksitan does Abt Gaza and Palestine..it's not the same. You can say Indian purchase is helping Russia but I don't see Russia as the aggressors here.
No worse than other superpower leaders committing wars against Muslims in middle east or Vietnam etc...commiting regime change and drone attacks on civilians ...the only thing is assassinations of political rivals..that's just a Russian thing ..Yeah Putin is a really nice guy.
Let me give you an example. A real one.bangladesh after Independence was really close to India and a section of the population was and is still close to India. After hasinas removal..the section that is anti India is now in power. Let's say they decide to host Paksitani army and bases on Indian border. It is a soveriegn decision on their part but India warns them not to do it and there will be consequences. Yet it goes ahead on planning but is yet to do itYeah Putin is a really nice guy.
I don't think Indias ties with Brazil and Russia changed really after this saga..they were strong allies before and after..maybe a bit more impetus with Brazil.The more Trump tries to pressure India, the stronger India’s response becomes. Modi has said he plans to deepen India’s strategic partnership with Russia and has even invited President Putin to visit India.
Modi is also heading to China and strengthening ties with Brazil through BRICS.
Yes, this approach could come at a high cost for India. But what Pakistan couldn’t do, India is doing. Pakistan removed its sitting Prime Minister after just a little pressure from the U.S., while India is standing firm. Time will tell how this all plays out.
Well no one is as bad as Netenyahu. That guy is a monster.No worse than other superpower leaders committing wars against Muslims in middle east or Vietnam etc...commiting regime change and drone attacks on civilians ...the only thing is assassinations of political rivals..that's just a Russian thing ..
I’m not referring to the escalation. I understand Russia’s concerns around NATO military buildup on its borders. However, the ICC has issued arrest warrants for Putin. The man is a monster and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians. Yes, he’s no different to others like Assad or Saddam, but for a moment stop being so defensive because Russia is an Indian ally and acknowledge that he is a tyrant and a monster.Let me give you an example. A real one.bangladesh after Independence was really close to India and a section of the population was and is still close to India. After hasinas removal..the section that is anti India is now in power. Let's say they decide to host Paksitani army and bases on Indian border. It is a soveriegn decision on their part but India warns them not to do it and there will be consequences. Yet it goes ahead on planning but is yet to do it
So India has two choices...do nothing. And have a heavy military presence on both borders and be at a inevitable disadvantage when hostilities start as that is the only conclusion behind. Building a heavy military presence in a new country or act now when India still has the advantage.
That is the genesis of the Ukraine crisis. One country is building military presence 10000s of miles away from their home at the door step of another country close to their capital city...for dense or offense in a country with a lot of cultural historical and societal ties.
Pakistan is a joke economicalky and militarily too..it's reduced to false propaganda and bravado aka all the Muslim countries..protect their image domestically and lose every war in their nations history against non Muslim countries...
I don't see him any different that Bush Nixon and others...if the yardstick is same..I agree.if waging a war is the definition of monster...then yes.I’m not referring to the escalation. I understand Russia’s concerns around NATO military buildup on its borders. However, the ICC has issued arrest warrants for Putin. The man is a monster and is responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians. Yes, he’s no different to others like Assad or Saddam, but for a moment stop being so defensive because Russia is an Indian ally and acknowledge that he is a tyrant and a monster.
I dont hate Muslims..but you slipped a fake statement regarding the conflict in May..I wanted to share my perspective of it. As for why I said denial and saving face domestically is a big Muslim country featureWhy do you hate Muslims so much?
If you are going to tag me then at least try to make an attempt to stay relevant to the comment you are tagging.
You can utter it a million times as well, but do not conveniently forget your own bases suffering damages from Pakistan as well.Whatever lie helps you to sleep better and not face the reality of your countrys base blasted out ..not once but 11 places ..you can utter it 2000 times.. won't change the facts on the ground....
I agree.utterances don't mean anything .please show a single satellite image of your claimed damage on our airbase or any other military installation for that matter.You can utter it a million times as well, but do not conveniently forget your own bases suffering damages from Pakistan as well.
Not forgetting the humiliation of losing your state of the art Rafales.
I agree they are all the same and have done more than simply wage a war. Bush should be in The Hague.I don't see him any different that Bush Nixon and others...if the yardstick is same..I agree.if waging a war is the definition of monster...then yes.
Good to have a dead economy who are going to usurp Germany/Japan soon. It will be usa, China and india by 2027. Top 3 economies and consumers.Dead economy Indians daily propoganda gives a good laugh every morning
Good to have a dead economy who are going to usurp Germany/Japan soon. It will be usa, China and india by 2027. Top 3 economies and consumers.