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The first casualty is the massive dip in FX in last 1 year to keep the Rupee stable(Still at high levels), India needs to get its act together, force the reforms and get the FDI.
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So, are you suggesting this is all staged, or is this meant to be satire post?It's no secret PM Modi and President Trump are good friends.
PM Modi kept in touch with DT when Biden was in the office, this was acknowledged by Trump.
This all looks staged to me, just like the supposed spat between Elon and Trump.
I wonder if all this tariff drama is just for show,
DT: I am going to strengthen your image,
PM Modi: I am listening,
DT: I am going to increase the Tariffs on India for a period of time and announce it to the whole world, you can reject it and look strong, strengthening your political image even further than what are you currently at, in front of your audience for the time period I keep the Tariffs high. We will come to an agreement and compromises on a few options while this drama plays out and then I will normalise the Tariffs..
PM: Smiles, OK....
Meanwhile Pakistan:
hahah Modi sarannnndaaarrr, we won, Kashmir is ourrsss Saaaaarrrr![]()
So, are you suggesting this is all staged,
How much that expensive oil hit inflationOn the contrary, I'm pretty pragmatic about this. In the current environment, neither USA nor Russia is a reliable partner. For better or worse, we're back to the pre-first world war era of purely transactional relationships, shifting alliances and protective nationalism.
We don't want Trump as an ally - he wouldn't be stable anyway. We need the US as a trading partner. If that means we need to buy more expensive oil for a month or two till Trump moves on to his next pet peeve, I think we should be perfectly happy to do it. Putin's pragmatic enough to know that we'll buy plenty of stuff from him again when the heat's off and the tantrum's done.
We're not strong enough yet to stand on principle on such matters especially when the principle itself is flimsy.
Modi is doing what any indianpm would have done indira Gandhi didn’t bow to nixon modi wont bow to fund dolund will be tesring his hai out in. Few months ince brics decice to trade in local currency and not usdSo, are you suggesting this is all staged, or is this meant to be satire post?
The first casualty is the massive dip in FX in last 1 year to keep the Rupee stable(Still at high levels), India needs to get its act together, force the reforms and get the FDI.
Its also a possibility the whole world is like the movie the matrix and @Devadwal is Keanu Reeves.I am saying it is a possibility...
It's no secret PM Modi and President Trump are good friends.
This all looks staged to me, just like the supposed spat between Elon and Trump.
Meanwhile Pakistan:
hahah Modi sarannnndaaarrr, we won, Kashmir is ourrsss Saaaaarrrr![]()
Cheap oil from Russia or not, India has one of the highest prices for Petrol at the pump among all developing countries. They've also been remarkably stable for years.How much that expensive oil hit inflation
Will russia supply emergency arms next time?
Trump is worryh nothing. No need to antagonize russia for this clown
Intra Brics trade is the future
yes as i said its high still but RBI had to do a lot to keep the Rupee stableFx stfx stand T 6.88 bn usd
In Pakistan, petrol costs about $0.88, while in India it’s around $1.10 yet in Pakistan, people are ready to tear each other apart over it.Cheap oil from Russia or not, India has one of the highest prices for Petrol at the pump among all developing countries. They've also been remarkably stable for years.
I'm not sure who's getting the benefit of cheap crude purchases from Russia but my petrol bill certainly hasn't seen any. For example, if you look at the US - average price at the pump has fallen from $3.8 in mid 2022 to $3.26 today...a drop of 15%. In India, it's gone up from Rs.95 to Rs.105 (your particular state's mileage may vary)...an increase of 7%.
Part of that is of course, the Indian government increasing taxation as crude prices have come down but part also I think is that discounts on crude haven't been as much as we thought. Either way, I don't think shifting crude purchases will have much of an impact on inflation. OPEC has increased production in anticipation and non-OPEC oil producing countries like the US are also ramping up.
As I said neither Trump (a clown) nor Putin (a despot) is a reliable partner. We owe neither anything much and need to act in our own National interest. If that means temporary appeasing the clown at the expense of the despot, so be it.
There is no tariff on the apple phones.Bad news for Donald Trump and it's supporters.... Foxconn starts iPhone 17 production at Begaluru Factory, India which is a 2nd largest manufacturing unit
Rediff.com
There is no tariff on the apple phones.
He says 101 things a day, you can’t latch on to everything.I know, but Trump said he will not allow any US business to open in India
Have you got a St Georges flag outside of your window??A daily reminder to brother @DeadlyVenom @Bhaag Viru Bhaag on this topic. What is the update on the following:
1. When is regime change happening in India?
2. When will Gujarat 2002 files getting re-opened?
3. When is Rahul Gandhi becoming PM?
Time is running out #brothers
Lets not derail this topic. You will get answer to it on 13th Sept when biggest protest happening in LondonHave you got a St Georges flag outside of your window??
Regime change operation stalled after Putin Trump meeting and India agreed to not buy Russian oil.A daily reminder to brother @DeadlyVenom @Bhaag Viru Bhaag on this topic. What is the update on the following:
1. When is regime change happening in India?
2. When will Gujarat 2002 files getting re-opened?
3. When is Rahul Gandhi becoming PM?
Time is running out #brothers
Daily reminder for you. I said none of these things so don't put words in my mouth. You are looking so desperate after getting 'chittars' from me on a daily basis.A daily reminder to brother @DeadlyVenom @Bhaag Viru Bhaag on this topic. What is the update on the following:
1. When is regime change happening in India?
2. When will Gujarat 2002 files getting re-opened?
3. When is Rahul Gandhi becoming PM?
Time is running out #brothers
Owned Rajadeep again bro! Humiliation for these Indians at the hands of our BD brothers. Let's go! Hoping for 100% tariffs now.Daily reminder for you. I said none of these things so don't put words in my mouth. You are looking so desperate after getting 'chittars' from me on a daily basis.![]()
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Since last century what US done? They not done business for profits?
No way as India is profiting in billions from Russian crude oil and also keeping inflation in control > Trump's 50% tarrif on IndiaI've no problem with Indian companies profiteering from Russian oil. But given that these new oil-related sanctions by Trump are going to harm indian export jobs in other sectors, not sure the govt will continue with their oil policy.
Cheap oil from Russia or not, India has one of the highest prices for Petrol at the pump among all developing countries. They've also been remarkably stable for years.
I'm not sure who's getting the benefit of cheap crude purchases from Russia but my petrol bill certainly hasn't seen any. For example, if you look at the US - average price at the pump has fallen from $3.8 in mid 2022 to $3.26 today...a drop of 15%. In India, it's gone up from Rs.95 to Rs.105 (your particular state's mileage may vary)...an increase of 7%.
Part of that is of course, the Indian government increasing taxation as crude prices have come down but part also I think is that discounts on crude haven't been as much as we thought. Either way, I don't think shifting crude purchases will have much of an impact on inflation. OPEC has increased production in anticipation and non-OPEC oil producing countries like the US are also ramping up.
As I said neither Trump (a clown) nor Putin (a despot) is a reliable partner. We owe neither anything much and need to act in our own National interest. If that means temporary appeasing the clown at the expense of the despot, so be it.
I covered this (see below) in a response to @cricketjoshila. The Indian petrol buying public has certainly seen no benefit from the 'cheap' Russian Oil.
The entire process & price of buying Russian crude has been shrouded in mystery - partly I suppose not to draw adverse attention from the west but partly I suspect also to allow mysterious Russian and Indian middlemen to benefit from brokering and arranging transport for these imports from Russia. A lot of this petrol is then exported out. Of course, there's a lot of hypocrisy in all this. The main markets for the refined, rerouted Russian crude are in Europe. Indian petroleum exports to Europe have more than tripled since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
I covered this (see below) in a response to @cricketjoshila. The Indian petrol buying public has certainly seen no benefit from the 'cheap' Russian Oil.
The entire process & price of buying Russian crude has been shrouded in mystery - partly I suppose not to draw adverse attention from the west but partly I suspect also to allow mysterious Russian and Indian middlemen to benefit from brokering and arranging transport for these imports from Russia. A lot of this petrol is then exported out. Of course, there's a lot of hypocrisy in all this. The main markets for the refined, rerouted Russian crude are in Europe. Indian petroleum exports to Europe have more than tripled since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Bang Bang, Modi shot a man.No way as India is profiting in billions from Russian crude oil and also keeping inflation in control > Trump's 50% tarrif on India
How come almost the whole world has seen a Petrol price reduction while we in India who are the second largest buyers of "cheap" Russian Oil have seen stability/increase (depending on how you read it)?People thinks that Russia giving free oil to India, they are giving @ cheaper rates... if india's patrol export to europe increased 3 fold which is good thing for India. It means India's forex reserves also increased. Common Indian is saved from inflation, if patrol price goes up by single rupee then it affects common ppls household budget.
It's the same global derangement syndrome - Trump/Putin/Erdogan/Modi/Imran can do no wrong. They're perfect and everything they do is for the good of the Nation according to their supporters. It's all a misunderstanding.Bang Bang, Modi shot a man.
Supporters be like, “No, no, you got it wrong. Modi didn’t shoot him, the man just committed the crime of being in the way of Modi’s bullet.
India's role in this whole Ukraine saga needs to be seriously scrutinised.
The west are buying their oil from India to feed the domestic markets and keep the markets calm. Decisions made for the benefit of the average person, all while tackling Putin head on.
India seems to have sat on the fence, happy for children to die, and lined the pockets of its billionaires. A very sorry state of affairs.
How come almost the whole world has seen a Petrol price reduction while we in India who are the second largest buyers of "cheap" Russian Oil have seen stability/increase (depending on how you read it)?
On the Forex question, I'm hoping you're aware that we're both buying oil (spending Forex) and selling it (earning Forex). There is a margin sure but i'm not sure it's as much as you think. Most of it is going into mysterious pockets.
Here’s the thing it shouldn’t had remained constant it should had gotten lower.Whether petrol prices increased since india started importing Russian crude? Petrol prices remains constant for longer period which is a achievement
Cheap oil from Russia or not, India has one of the highest prices for Petrol at the pump among all developing countries. They've also been remarkably stable for years.
I'm not sure who's getting the benefit of cheap crude purchases from Russia but my petrol bill certainly hasn't seen any. For example, if you look at the US - average price at the pump has fallen from $3.8 in mid 2022 to $3.26 today...a drop of 15%. In India, it's gone up from Rs.95 to Rs.105 (your particular state's mileage may vary)...an increase of 7%.
Part of that is of course, the Indian government increasing taxation as crude prices have come down but part also I think is that discounts on crude haven't been as much as we thought. Either way, I don't think shifting crude purchases will have much of an impact on inflation. OPEC has increased production in anticipation and non-OPEC oil producing countries like the US are also ramping up.
As I said neither Trump (a clown) nor Putin (a despot) is a reliable partner. We owe neither anything much and need to act in our own National interest. If that means temporary appeasing the clown at the expense of the despot, so be it.
Why is modi a problem for pakistanis?Bang Bang, Modi shot a man.
Supporters be like, “No, no, you got it wrong. Modi didn’t shoot him, the man just committed the crime of being in the way of Modi’s bullet.
Bang Bang, Modi shot a man.
Supporters be like, “No, no, you got it wrong. Modi didn’t shoot him, the man just committed the crime of being in the way of Modi’s bullet.
Why is modi a problem for pakistanis?
India isn’t attacking ukraine. We have no role there.India's role in this whole Ukraine saga needs to be seriously scrutinised.
The west are buying their oil from India to feed the domestic markets and keep the markets calm. Decisions made for the benefit of the average person, all while tackling Putin head on.
India seems to have sat on the fence, happy for children to die, and lined the pockets of its billionaires. A very sorry state of affairs.
Bangladeshi calling indians low iqLOL!
You nailed it.
This is a great way to describe's Modi's low-IQ supporters.![]()
India bought Russian oil to keep inflation under control. If Indial wouldn't buy Russian oil, then China, Turkey could have bought more Russian oil and made profits. Its a demand supply chain. If nobody bought Russian oil, then ukrain may have burnt those Russian oil wells like Gulf war
India isn’t answerable to the west. Ukraine v russia isn’t pur problem it ukraine and russias problem west doesn’t like russia so india shouldn’t trade with Russia. Why? This isn’t 1947 india is a free and sovereign nation and we aren’t here to do what west wants.India's role in this whole Ukraine saga needs to be seriously scrutinised.
The west are buying their oil from India to feed the domestic markets and keep the markets calm. Decisions made for the benefit of the average person, all while tackling Putin head on.
India seems to have sat on the fence, happy for children to die, and lined the pockets of its billionaires. A very sorry state of affairs.
Indians role in the killing of Ukrainians has been condemned by the international community including the President of the USA. This is not something hatched up by British Pakistanis.India isn’t answerable to the west. Ukraine v russia isn’t pur problem it ukraine and russias problem west doesn’t like russia so india shouldn’t trade with Russia. Why? This isn’t 1947 india is a free and sovereign nation and we aren’t here to do what west wants.
We don’t have any problem with russia and won’t create one for the sake of the west.
I as a indian is happy that we haven’t spoilt relations with Russia.
British Pakistanis can be unhappy about it they can’t do anything about it.
Indians role in the killing of Ukrainians has been condemned by the international community including the President of the USA. This is not something hatched up by British Pakistanis.
For an American official to accuse Indian oil companies of war profiteering is the height of hypocrisy.
This is a nation built on the backs of enslaved Africans, that drove Native Americans to near extinction, and toppled governments worldwide for corporate gain and is now lecturing India on war profiteering.
Just to understand how small these people are and how low they have gone, know that America slapped a 50% “reciprocal tariff” on a country like Lesotho, one of the world’s smallest and poorest. US GDP is $29 trillion, Lesotho’s barely $2.9 billion. American per capita income is $86,000, Lesotho’s just $1,100. Yet the orange man demanded “reciprocal” trade with them. This is how pathetic these people are. Sure thing money can never buy class!
America’s ledger of historic exploitation of poor and vulnerable include all the fortunes made from slavery; nations like Vietnam and Iraq ruined under false pretexts so oil firms, arms dealers, and contractors could profit; countless coups engineered from Iran to Latin America for US corporate gain. And yet these very people point fingers at India today which is simply minding its own business and securing energy for its 1.4 billion citizens.
Oil refining isn’t child’s play. Whoever runs it anywhere in the world belongs to the top industrial elite. But while in America, billionaires are hailed as visionaries, but on the other hand in India, Ambani, Adani, Tata, Birla are branded profiteers. The truth, what unsettles America is not Indian oil trades, but the rise of Indian business giants who can’t be outcompeted by the old Western playbook.
Indian refiners don’t just resell Russian crude; they add value, meet global standards, and then export after serving domestic demand. India, a net importer, has kept fuel prices remarkably stable thanks to massive refining investments and better logistics. That’s not profiteering but competence.
The real target isn’t Adani or Ambani. The target is India itself? its economic rise and its growing geopolitical weight.
I mostly agree. This is not an era for idealismIndia isn’t answerable to the west. Ukraine v russia isn’t pur problem it ukraine and russias problem west doesn’t like russia so india shouldn’t trade with Russia. Why? This isn’t 1947 india is a free and sovereign nation and we aren’t here to do what west wants.
We don’t have any problem with russia and won’t create one for the sake of the west.
I as a indian is happy that we haven’t spoilt relations with Russia.
British Pakistanis can be unhappy about it they can’t do anything about it.
Where is the benefit for aam aadmi in terms of prices ? Read @Red-Indian 's post on high prices.
You have raised an absolutely valid argument. The common man didn't see a direct benefit.How come almost the whole world has seen a Petrol price reduction while we in India who are the second largest buyers of "cheap" Russian Oil have seen stability/increase (depending on how you read it)?
On the Forex question, I'm hoping you're aware that we're both buying oil (spending Forex) and selling it (earning Forex). There is a margin sure but i'm not sure it's as much as you think. Most of it is going into mysterious pockets.
I only partly buy this I'm afraid.If you look at the last two years, the real benefit for the aam aadmi has been price stability.
Global crude prices have swung wildly since the Russia–Ukraine war, with many countries seeing fuel bills jump 40–50%. India, despite being a net importer has kept petrol and diesel rates relatively steady, shielding households from the inflation shock that hit Europe and much of the world.
Could prices be lower? Perhaps. But governance isn’t only about quick relief at the petrol pumps, it’s about balancing the fiscal deficit while investing in public welfare and infrastructure. India is building modern airports, expressways, railway corridors, and bullet trains projects funded by taxes and careful revenue management.
What really hurts India’s economy are reckless subsidies and freebies for vote-bank politics. What India actually needs is massive investment in public transport, eco-friendly systems that ease commuting costs for millions. That’s the kind of sustainable, long-term vision that truly benefits the aam aadmi.
We will continue to face constant pressure from foreign-funded narratives that prioritize short-term optics over nation-building. But people of India must understand that staying focused on long-term economic resilience is the real path to empowering the nation.
I think you're missing my point.You have raised an absolutely valid argument. The common man didn't see a direct benefit.
I remember seeing a statistic that, Indirect taxation mainly on petrol is the major contribution for Central government. India still relies ~60% on indirect taxation while major global economies are driven by taxes on people’s income.
So, government should have accumulated higher income from petrol taxes which should be disbursed to the common man. While the math should be more scrutinized, some of the things happened during last 2 years-
1. Welfare schemes increased
2. Some relief on personal income tax. Zero tax buffer increased to 12 LPA in the new tax regime.
3. A positive outcome on the GST slabs which are slated to be reduced (18% is the maximum compared to 28% currently)
Again, any data from government should help but have to say, headline inflation has been fairly stable in the last 2 years. Though consumers in some sector are witnessing higher levels.
While these cannot absolve the government, I just wanted to point out that, without revenue generation from petrol, Indian state would face a similar debt surge to Karnataka where borrowing increased to fund welfare schemes.
You have to be able to read the room and drop Russia like a hot potato when you need to. You can always pick it back up later.
Smart observation.. we should ditch the country that doesn't question us. Vetoes on our behalf, shares their top technology with us, doesn't sanction us to be with a historically unreliable partner that often kills their allies, lectures people, sanctions people and can even hold off super expensive military equipment at time of highest need... Now is the time to surrender and score brownie points.Well said .. this notion that Russia is some cherished friend of India, pushed forth by a lot of sentimental right-wingers/bhakts is very naive. Sure they have done us a lot of good .. but you gotta adapt and play the game as it comes. No such thing as permanent friends in international politics, especially now that Russia is strongly tethered to China.
Yeah man... Sure... Buying oil is same as killing people... What about buying gas and uranium or rolling out the red carpet...Indians role in the killing of Ukrainians has been condemned by the international community including the President of the USA. This is not something hatched up by British Pakistanis.
Smart observation.. we should ditch the country that doesn't question us. Vetoes on our behalf, shares their top technology with us, doesn't sanction us to be with a historically unreliable partner that often kills their allies, lectures people, sanctions people and can even hold off super expensive military equipment at time of highest need... Now is the time to surrender and score brownie points.
Learn from China, when the US tried to bully them, andhbhakhts and godi media were cheering. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, same people are bragging about China's support. Same China who supports Pakistan. Andhbhakhts have no where to go now.China says it stands with India against ‘bully’ Trump’s trade tariffs
China’s envoy to India has said Beijing “firmly stands with India” and denounced the US as a “bully” for imposing a 50 per cent tariff on New Delhi, in the latest sign of warning ties between the long hostile Asian giants.
China’s ambassador Xu Feihong made the remarks following a series of high-levels talks between Indian and Chinese officials, seemingly pushed together by a shared trade adversary in US president Donald Trump.
It came a day after the Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi concluded a two-day trip to India, his first in three years, where he met with Indian prime minister Narendra Modi.
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China says it stands with India against ‘bully’ Trump’s trade tariffs
Chinese envoy slams US for using tariff as ‘a bargaining chip’ to demand exorbitant priceswww.independent.co.uk
People care .. that's why ceasefire happens among other reasons.You arguments are weak -
> doesn't question us - who cares ? Symbolic and meaningless.
> vetoes on our behalf - again who cares ? - UN resolutions are purely symbolic and meaningless.
> shares their top technology with us - nothing that France, Israel and maybe even US aren't willing to share. You could argue being close to Russia prevents US from sharing more tech with India. The only unique thing that Russia offers is a nuclear submarine.
> lectures people - again nobody cares, lectures are just words. Look at the hard deliverables.
US companies opening their subsidiaries in India and India having access to tarriff free US markets is far more beneficial for the average joe .
China says it stands with India against ‘bully’ Trump’s trade tariffs
China’s envoy to India has said Beijing “firmly stands with India” and denounced the US as a “bully” for imposing a 50 per cent tariff on New Delhi, in the latest sign of warning ties between the long hostile Asian giants.
China’s ambassador Xu Feihong made the remarks following a series of high-levels talks between Indian and Chinese officials, seemingly pushed together by a shared trade adversary in US president Donald Trump.
It came a day after the Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi concluded a two-day trip to India, his first in three years, where he met with Indian prime minister Narendra Modi.
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China says it stands with India against ‘bully’ Trump’s trade tariffs
Chinese envoy slams US for using tariff as ‘a bargaining chip’ to demand exorbitant priceswww.independent.co.uk
Learn from China, when the US tried to bully them, andhbhakhts and godi media were cheering. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, same people are bragging about China's support. Same China who supports Pakistan. Andhbhakhts have no where to go now.![]()
Show me one post where I was cheering US? Or maybe for you, exposing the hypocrisy of andhbhakts = cheering US? Abki baar, Trump sarkar.What about u ppls? You were cursing when US attacked Afghanistan and recent attack on Iran... now you shifted ur stance to cheer US
Show me one post where I was cheering US? Or maybe for you, exposing the hypocrisy of andhbhakts = cheering US? Abki baar, Trump sarkar.![]()
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So we are back to cheering for china now.China says it stands with India against ‘bully’ Trump’s trade tariffs
China’s envoy to India has said Beijing “firmly stands with India” and denounced the US as a “bully” for imposing a 50 per cent tariff on New Delhi, in the latest sign of warning ties between the long hostile Asian giants.
China’s ambassador Xu Feihong made the remarks following a series of high-levels talks between Indian and Chinese officials, seemingly pushed together by a shared trade adversary in US president Donald Trump.
It came a day after the Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi concluded a two-day trip to India, his first in three years, where he met with Indian prime minister Narendra Modi.
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China says it stands with India against ‘bully’ Trump’s trade tariffs
Chinese envoy slams US for using tariff as ‘a bargaining chip’ to demand exorbitant priceswww.independent.co.uk
India will buy oil from where it gets 'the best deal' - envoy to Russia
India will continue to buy oil from wherever it "gets the best deal" in order to protect the interests of its 1.4 billion people, the country's ambassador to Russia has said.
Vinay Kumar's statement comes days before US President Donald Trump's 50% tariffs on India, including a 25% penalty for buying Russian oil and weapons, are set to kick in.
On Sunday, US Vice-President JD Vance said that Trump had announced secondary tariffs on India to apply "aggressive economic leverage" on Russia and force it to stop the war in Ukraine.
Delhi's increased imports of cheap Russian crude since the war began has strained its ties with the US and impacted negotiations on a trade deal.
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India-US-Russia: Will buy oil from where we 'get the best deal' - envoy
India's purchase of Russian oil has become a sore spot in its previously friendly relations with the US.www.bbc.com