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India set to slip below Bangladesh in 2020 per capita GDP, says IMF

How many Indian middle class persons do you know?

Only future? Really?

A salary of INR 2.05 crores per annum (INR 20.5 million = PKR 45 million) isn't good enough for you?

https://www.timesnownews.com/busine...ore-plus-salaries-return-after-6-years/837134

A very small percent of Indians are getting those jobs lool. They don't even make up a fraction of India's middle class let alone the entire population, also a lot of these job offers according to that article are for international postings - thus proving my point, Indians need to immigrate to another country for a better life. Ain't no way an Indian IT professional is gonna make Silicon valley/FAANG level salaries while living in India.
 
How many Indian middle class persons do you know?

Only future? Really?

A salary of INR 2.05 crores per annum (INR 20.5 million = PKR 45 million) isn't good enough for you?

https://www.timesnownews.com/busine...ore-plus-salaries-return-after-6-years/837134

That is by no means a 'middle-class' Indian salary. One would be quite rich in India with that salary.

An one doesn't need to make Silicon Valley kind of salaries in India to have a ''middle-class' life. The salary of the average 'middle-class' person in India would be more like 20 USD a day, and a lot of Indians (almost 30 -50% of the population) actually make that much living in India. Many make even more.
 
That is by no means a 'middle-class' Indian salary. One would be quite rich in India with that salary.

An one doesn't need to make Silicon Valley kind of salaries in India to have a ''middle-class' life. The salary of the average 'middle-class' person in India would be more like 20 USD a day, and a lot of Indians (almost 30 -50% of the population) actually make that much living in India. Many make even more.

Actually even UBER drivers make 20 USD or more. My cook gets 30k INR (she works on 8 different households) which is around 450 USD a month equating to 15 USD a day.

Howeve this kind of income en masse is only in bigger Metropolitan areas . If we go to towns or villages , it is likely less but so is the cost of living. In many ways median PPP income for villages and towns are better than cities.
 
A very small percent of Indians are getting those jobs lool. They don't even make up a fraction of India's middle class let alone the entire population, also a lot of these job offers according to that article are for international postings - thus proving my point, Indians need to immigrate to another country for a better life. Ain't no way an Indian IT professional is gonna make Silicon valley/FAANG level salaries while living in India.

The difference in salary is not as much as it used to be, most of my friends who have similar experience like me in IT ~17-18 years make ~50-100K USD here, few who are working for FANG make a lot more, a few who draw $$ salaries based out of India.
Am sure life is better in west in certain aspects, but even if you earn three times more you cant afford things you can do working in India . So while I agree US offers better opportunities, staying back isnt bad either . In 10 years I see Indian salaries going up another 30-40%, while it will stay flat in the west like it has for past2 decades further bringing the gap down
 
A very small percent of Indians are getting those jobs lool. They don't even make up a fraction of India's middle class let alone the entire population, also a lot of these job offers according to that article are for international postings - thus proving my point, Indians need to immigrate to another country for a better life. Ain't no way an Indian IT professional is gonna make Silicon valley/FAANG level salaries while living in India.

FAANG level salaries even people in Europe don’t make.
If you know nothing then you can just keep quiet.

FAANG level salaries are not middleclass Americans either lol, clearly you have no idea how much Silicon Valley companies pay.
 
The difference in salary is not as much as it used to be, most of my friends who have similar experience like me in IT ~17-18 years make ~50-100K USD here, few who are working for FANG make a lot more, a few who draw $$ salaries based out of India.
Am sure life is better in west in certain aspects, but even if you earn three times more you cant afford things you can do working in India . So while I agree US offers better opportunities, staying back isnt bad either . In 10 years I see Indian salaries going up another 30-40%, while it will stay flat in the west like it has for past2 decades further bringing the gap down

This is bang on. In Tech and Services the salary is that going up, so much so that many people dont really feel the urge to go to West for money anymore. For quality of life however we are still far behind and it won't be good anytime soon.
 
The difference in salary is not as much as it used to be, most of my friends who have similar experience like me in IT ~17-18 years make ~50-100K USD here, few who are working for FANG make a lot more, a few who draw $$ salaries based out of India.
Am sure life is better in west in certain aspects, but even if you earn three times more you cant afford things you can do working in India . So while I agree US offers better opportunities, staying back isnt bad either . In 10 years I see Indian salaries going up another 30-40%, while it will stay flat in the west like it has for past2 decades further bringing the gap down

US salaries have improved as well, right now in tech it’s one of the best times.
Even overall there are lot of good jobs out there.
 
US salaries have improved as well, right now in tech it’s one of the best times.
Even overall there are lot of good jobs out there.

This is true as well. Howeve the upward compensation revision in India has been 2.5-3 times of that of US. Again it's not a fair comparison but in general the salary market in Tech and Services is burning with holistic IT transformation.
 
This is true as well. Howeve the upward compensation revision in India has been 2.5-3 times of that of US. Again it's not a fair comparison but in general the salary market in Tech and Services is burning with holistic IT transformation.

That’s true but US taking automation to next levels, only Indian IT salaries will get the hike compared to other sectors which will happen in US.

Also with a lot of tier 2,3 town Indians coming into IT i expect tech salaries to reach a stagnation in 4 years in India.

India should start investing in IT system across , problem is these will always remain low return ones so hoping Indian startup consultancies take this up.
 
That’s true but US taking automation to next levels, only Indian IT salaries will get the hike compared to other sectors which will happen in US.

Also with a lot of tier 2,3 town Indians coming into IT i expect tech salaries to reach a stagnation in 4 years in India.

India should start investing in IT system across , problem is these will always remain low return ones so hoping Indian startup consultancies take this up.

Somewhere the growth curve has to flatten out a bit. It has been abnormal in last 12 -15 months with 100% hike becoming the norm. However I feel that we likely will have a competitive advantage by end of this decade with tremendous amount of investment to upskill both at B2B and B2C level . I have not seen anything like this 5 years back and the momentum is at par with US if not higher. US /Europe will continue to drive the demand though for now but by end of this decade we may see lot of domestic demand as big Indian corporates catch up on transformation. How quickly the Indian startup ecosystem mature will also determine the overall dynamics.

Where India have a serious catch up to do is on manufacturing , particularly electronics industry. We are lagging behind Thailand(automobiles), Bangladesh(textiles) and Vietnam(chip). I am not even comparing with Taiwan, South Korea or China as there is no comparison. Unless we bridge that gap, we won't be able to significantly expand the middle class base or have any sustainable impact on GDP and will continue to suffer negative balance of trade followed by a weak currency acting as a headwind.
 
US salaries have improved as well, right now in tech it’s one of the best times.
Even overall there are lot of good jobs out there.

Agree, I get a budget for my US team as well which in my past 5 years experience was never beyond 2.5%, this year we got 5 so am sure the salaries have gone up there too but the increase in India is ridiculously high. The least hike we gave this year in my team is ~25%, the highest is close to 100% and I know for sure it's not just my company, so I would say the gap came down considerably this year
 
That is by no means a 'middle-class' Indian salary. One would be quite rich in India with that salary.

An one doesn't need to make Silicon Valley kind of salaries in India to have a ''middle-class' life. The salary of the average 'middle-class' person in India would be more like 20 USD a day, and a lot of Indians (almost 30 -50% of the population) actually make that much living in India. Many make even more.

Yes, but I bet the guy came from a middle class family. It is an extreme case but my point was that there is a lot of opportunity for for Indians in India which was not there before.
 
Is Bangladesh seeking a IMF bailout?

Bangladesh is seeking a loan from the International Monetary Fund, according to people with knowledge of the matter, the latest South Asian nation to ask for assistance as costlier oil eats into the region’s foreign-exchange stockpiles.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina’s government has written to the multilateral lender with its request, the people said, asking not to be identified discussing sensitive details. The Daily Star newspaper, which reported the development earlier, said Bangladesh wants $4.5 billion from the IMF.

The IMF stands ready to start negotiations, according to a draft seen by Bloomberg of an unpublished statement following the lender’s staff visit to Bangladesh.

Foreign exchange reserves in Bangladesh slipped to $39.79 billion as of July 13 from $45.33 billion a year earlier. That’s enough to cover roughly four months of imports, slightly higher than the IMF’s recommended three-month cover.

Calls to Finance Minister AHM Mustafa Kamal and an email to the IMF’s representative in Singapore were unanswered.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...d-to-seek-imf-bailout-as-its-fx-reserves-fall
 
Hasina government spent recklessly. Also, COVID was a blow.

Not sure if this is true but wouldn't be surprising.

They decided to build many useless things. Those were not necessary.
 
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Bangladesh will close schools for one more day each week and reduce office hours to ease an electricity shortage, a government official says.

Last month, the South Asian nation started daily two-hour power cuts.

Protesters have taken to the streets in recent weeks after the government raised petrol prices by more than 50%.

The war in Ukraine has driven up the cost of importing fuel and taken a toll on Bangladesh's economy and foreign currency reserves.

On Monday, Bangladesh Cabinet Secretary Khandker Anwarul Islam said that schools - which were previously only closed on Fridays - would now also be shut on Saturdays.

Under normal circumstances, schools in Bangladesh are open for six days a week - Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday.

Meanwhile, government offices and banks will have their opening hours cut to seven hours a day, instead of eight hours. However, private offices will be allowed to set their own operating hours, Mr Islam said.

He added that the government would continue to provide power to villages, including in the early hours of the morning when crops are irrigated.

Many parts of Bangladesh are known to go without electricity for more than two hours a day.

The country generates most of its electricity from natural gas, some of which it imports.

Officials have shut down all of the country's diesel-driven power plants, which account for around 6% of Bangladesh's electricity generation, because of the rising cost of fuel imports.

Earlier this month, petrol prices were raised by more than 50%, with the cost of the fuel rising from 86 taka a litre (90 US cents, 76p) to 130 taka.

At the same time the price of diesel and kerosene went up by more than 40%.

In July, Bangladesh became the third South Asian nation to seek a loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), after Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

While the size of the potential loan has not yet been decided, talks are expected to begin after the World Bank and IMF Spring meetings in October.

Bangladesh's foreign currency reserves have dwindled to around $40bn (£34bn) or four and a half months of typical government spending.

In recent years, the $416bn economy has been lauded as one of the fastest-growing in the world.
 
Bangladesh will close schools for one more day each week and reduce office hours to ease an electricity shortage, a government official says.

Last month, the South Asian nation started daily two-hour power cuts.

Protesters have taken to the streets in recent weeks after the government raised petrol prices by more than 50%.

The war in Ukraine has driven up the cost of importing fuel and taken a toll on Bangladesh's economy and foreign currency reserves.

On Monday, Bangladesh Cabinet Secretary Khandker Anwarul Islam said that schools - which were previously only closed on Fridays - would now also be shut on Saturdays.

Under normal circumstances, schools in Bangladesh are open for six days a week - Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday.

Meanwhile, government offices and banks will have their opening hours cut to seven hours a day, instead of eight hours. However, private offices will be allowed to set their own operating hours, Mr Islam said.

He added that the government would continue to provide power to villages, including in the early hours of the morning when crops are irrigated.

Many parts of Bangladesh are known to go without electricity for more than two hours a day.

The country generates most of its electricity from natural gas, some of which it imports.

Officials have shut down all of the country's diesel-driven power plants, which account for around 6% of Bangladesh's electricity generation, because of the rising cost of fuel imports.

Earlier this month, petrol prices were raised by more than 50%, with the cost of the fuel rising from 86 taka a litre (90 US cents, 76p) to 130 taka.

At the same time the price of diesel and kerosene went up by more than 40%.

In July, Bangladesh became the third South Asian nation to seek a loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), after Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

While the size of the potential loan has not yet been decided, talks are expected to begin after the World Bank and IMF Spring meetings in October.

Bangladesh's foreign currency reserves have dwindled to around $40bn (£34bn) or four and a half months of typical government spending.

In recent years, the $416bn economy has been lauded as one of the fastest-growing in the world.

Not looking good.

Hasina government started too many unnecessary megaprojects. Also, COVID and Ukraine war didn't help.
 
Dismissing concerns that Bangladesh could go the Sri Lanka way, Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina said that despite the Covid-19 onslaught and the conflict in Ukraine, her country's economy continued to be in robust shape and that her regime exercised a high level of diligence when taking any loans.

In an interaction with ANI, Prime Minister Hasina said that currently the world as a whole was facing challenges which were not restricted only to Bangladesh.

"Our economy, still it is very strong. Though, we faced this Covid-19 pandemic, now the Ukraine-Russia war. That has its effect here. But in debt rate, Bangladesh always pays timely all the debts. So our debt rate is very low. In context of Sri Lanka, our economy trajectory and the development, it is (planned) very, very calculatively," said the Bangladesh prime minister.

Ms Hasina asserted that because of this measured approach, her country was secure on the economic front. Bangladesh did not take any loan unless it was sure that it would benefit from the project undertaken, she said.

"I think the whole world is facing economic problem. We are also. But yes there are some people they raise this issue. Oh, Bangladesh will be Sri Lanka, this and that. But I can assure, no, that will not happen. Because we... all our development plans, what we prepare and we implement, always we see that what would be the return? How people would be the beneficiary? Otherwise I don't take any project (for) just spending money," she said.

Ms Hasina said that in Bangladesh, whenever the government considers any loan, it is a clear policy to estimate what would be the return for the country on the completion of the project. "How our economy will develop? And the people will be beneficiary, that is priority. So that way we are taking all the plans, programs. Unnecessary we don't spend any money," Hasina added.

The Sri Lankan economy collapsed and many experts believe that debts extended by countries like China in ambitious projects that did not provide a commensurate return were among factors that led to the debacle. Many experts refer to such loans as debt traps to which developing countries are especially vulnerable. Hasina, however, shared insights about the way Bangladesh manages its affairs.

Ms Hasina said that her government takes up plans for consideration in a very methodical manner.

"And we take the plan, so as because it is a very calculative way we are developing, I feel that we will not face a similar situation... Not only that, in the policy matter, the moment pandemic started , Covid-19, I called upon our people, and also we provided all kinds of support and inputs, up to the village level and also encouraged our people to grow more food items, as much as food they can grow. I always supported them that what you should do. You should grow your food so that we should not depend on others," she said.

Ms Hasina, however, confessed that the conflict in Ukraine had posed some problems for her country. "It has bad effect no doubt about it, especially the things we import from other countries," she said.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ban...-diligence-3313967#pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories
 
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