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Shankar better batter than Pandya, in fact he is better batter than all no 4's we have tried but he is total liability with ball. If he plays he can't be played as an all rounder.

As if Pandya is setting the world on fire with his phaast bowling. It is better to play someone who is good in one thing and below average in another thing than someone who is not good at anything. Pandya is a brilliant fielder though so he should be used as a substitute player during the match. :inti
 
As if Pandya is setting the world on fire with his phaast bowling. It is better to play someone who is good in one thing and below average in another thing than someone who is not good at anything. Pandya is a brilliant fielder though so he should be used as a substitute player during the match. :inti

Please check both their bowling records and performance. And we have to bowl 50 overseas in a one day match. So we need a better bowler more than better batter.

Shankar is also a good fielder.
 
Please check both their bowling records and performance. And we have to bowl 50 overseas in a one day match. So we need a better bowler more than better batter.

Shankar is also a good fielder.

We need a better batsman than a bowler these days. Stay up to date please. :kohli
 
Thank god you are not MSK Prasad. And yeah nobody has ever played sheer pace of 145k+ in England before. So selecting him on the basis of pace alone is very clever.

What is it anyway? World Cup or Nalasopara T20 League? :inti

Purely on cricket algorithms...its already proven that yours truely is touch better than MSK Prasad but never did I mention no one faced 145kph in Eng. But taking a tall lanky seamer who can bowl 145 kph is a safer bet than picking trundlers like Chahar or Kaul.

I knw you want India to lose and its quite aparent. Hence advocating picking Shankar over Pandya, Dhoni over Pant, Rayudu over Rahul etc. so that once India loses you can do bhangra here and blame all on IPL (what a sorry life :91:). So no wonder...you would disregard any potential good bowler and want to select trundlers.

Still remember....how before Asia cup you were so sure India will lose bcoz Kohli is taking rest, jumping up and down with criticism but then then got epic ownage. Don't worry, come 16th june another ownage awaits....with or without Saini.
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More or less Indian squad almost picks themselves - may be 1/2 surprises but quite solid squad. Their top 5-6 players will make any team in world and that's what matters, rest 5-6 players are mainly support staff - changing 1-2 personal doesn't matter.

1. Sharma
2. Dhawan
3. *Kohli
4. ATR
5. MSD+
6. Pant/Kedar
7. HPandeya
8. BK/Jadeja
9. Kuldeep
10. Shami
11. Bumrah
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14. Shankar (KL/Shaw)
15. N Shini/D Chahar/Ishant/Khaleel

Why haven’t you selected Chahal?
 
Purely on cricket algorithms...its already proven that yours truely is touch better than MSK Prasad but never did I mention no one faced 145kph in Eng. But taking a tall lanky seamer who can bowl 145 kph is a safer bet than picking trundlers like Chahar or Kaul.

I knw you want India to lose and its quite aparent. Hence advocating picking Shankar over Pandya, Dhoni over Pant, Rayudu over Rahul etc. so that once India loses you can do bhangra here and blame all on IPL (what a sorry life :91:). So no wonder...you would disregard any potential good bowler and want to select trundlers.

Still remember....how before Asia cup you were so sure India will lose bcoz Kohli is taking rest, jumping up and down with criticism but then then got epic ownage. Don't worry, come 16th june another ownage awaits....with or without Saini.
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Lol what a joker. You are just like our indian news channels, making stuff up over and over again. Where did I say that India will lose if Kohli skips Asia Cup? All I said was he should have skipped IPL and gave importance to Asia Cup. Its funny because guys like you were claiming to not give a damn about Asia Cup yet were glued to their TV sets.

As far as world cup is concerned it is pretty clear who wants India to lose in the World Cup. Picking a no namer like Navdeep Saini, inconsistent Pandya over an in form guy like Shankar and a tullaybaaz Pant over Dhoni? And you claim to be a touch better than MSK Prasad lol? Stick to your Nalasopara T20 League. :inti
 
Why haven’t you selected Chahal?

2 leggis might not work in UK, and Chahal has declined considerably, probably the worst fielder in Indian team by some margin and a genuine No. 11. There is a massive hollow in Indian team in middle and late order, which demands that one of BK or Jadeja should bat at 8. Other option is playing Chahal and make Pandeya 3rd seemer, which is again risky and the ail starts from 8. Only 15 players, therefore Ithink the back-up bowler should be a pacer, considering IND will have the shortest span for 9 games and IPL ends 2 weeks before 1st game.
 
We need a better batsman than a bowler these days. Stay up to date please. :kohli

We lost the last 2 odi knockout matches we played in because we played bowlers who didn't pick wickets regularly. And teams that won, won because they bowled better. Australia and Pakistan are latest champions and they won with better bowling.
 
2 leggis might not work in UK, and Chahal has declined considerably, probably the worst fielder in Indian team by some margin and a genuine No. 11. There is a massive hollow in Indian team in middle and late order, which demands that one of BK or Jadeja should bat at 8. Other option is playing Chahal and make Pandeya 3rd seemer, which is again risky and the ail starts from 8. Only 15 players, therefore Ithink the back-up bowler should be a pacer, considering IND will have the shortest span for 9 games and IPL ends 2 weeks before 1st game.

I don’t think Chahal will be left out after 2 years of investment and Kohli is a big fan of his.
 
I don’t think Chahal will be left out after 2 years of investment and Kohli is a big fan of his.

Yup. Chahal will be in the squad. May not play all the games but we will at least pick two genuine spinners.
 
Yup. Chahal will be in the squad. May not play all the games but we will at least pick two genuine spinners.

Fully agree. Jadeja hasn’t been great in LO for a while and his batting can’t be relied on. At least Chahal is capable of running through a side.
 
Lol what a joker. You are just like our indian news channels, making stuff up over and over again. Where did I say that India will lose if Kohli skips Asia Cup? All I said was he should have skipped IPL and gave importance to Asia Cup. Its funny because guys like you were claiming to not give a damn about Asia Cup yet were glued to their TV sets.

As far as world cup is concerned it is pretty clear who wants India to lose in the World Cup. Picking a no namer like Navdeep Saini, inconsistent Pandya over an in form guy like Shankar and a tullaybaaz Pant over Dhoni? And you claim to be a touch better than MSK Prasad lol? Stick to your Nalasopara T20 League. :inti

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Now bcoz I hit the nerves by bringing Asia cup...we are talking.

What inconsistent Pandya? He was out injured since Asia cup and came back brilliantly in NZ and continuing the same form in IPL. What tullaybaaz Pant? He has test centuries in Eng and Aust, so its quiet aparent kid can bat. MSD, as much as I used to like him has way past his best with bat. He alone lost us the ODI series in Eng recently and his batting was so poor in 2nd ODI....entire Lords stadium had to boo him. Navdip Saini is a no namer all right but what is the harm in picking a potential tall fast bowler as back up seamer over proven trundlers?

The way you ridicule all good young Indian players and support the ones you know wont be a threat to opposition....its aparent where your priorites lies. Stop this drama....everyone here knows where your priority lies.
 
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Now bcoz I hit the nerves by bringing Asia cup...we are talking.

What inconsistent Pandya? He was out injured since Asia cup and came back brilliantly in NZ and continuing the same form in IPL. What tullaybaaz Pant? He has test centuries in Eng and Aust, so its quiet aparent kid can bat. MSD, as much as I used to like him has way past his best with bat. He alone lost us the ODI series in Eng recently and his batting was so poor in 2nd ODI....entire Lords stadium had to boo him. Navdip Saini is a no namer all right but what is the harm in picking a potential tall fast bowler as back up seamer over proven trundlers?

The way you ridicule all good young Indian players and support the ones you know wont be a threat to opposition....its aparent where your priorites lies. Stop this drama....everyone here knows where your priority lies.

Bhaag doesn't follow domestic cricket. So he hasn't heard about Saini.

And he likes to troll young players without watching them.
 
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Now bcoz I hit the nerves by bringing Asia cup...we are talking.

What inconsistent Pandya? He was out injured since Asia cup and came back brilliantly in NZ and continuing the same form in IPL. What tullaybaaz Pant? He has test centuries in Eng and Aust, so its quiet aparent kid can bat. MSD, as much as I used to like him has way past his best with bat. He alone lost us the ODI series in Eng recently and his batting was so poor in 2nd ODI....entire Lords stadium had to boo him. Navdip Saini is a no namer all right but what is the harm in picking a potential tall fast bowler as back up seamer over proven trundlers?

The way you ridicule all good young Indian players and support the ones you know wont be a threat to opposition....its aparent where your priorites lies. Stop this drama....everyone here knows where your priority lies.

It seems you hit your own nerve by bringing in Asia Cup because your lie was exposed. As I said you are just like our media walas. You love making stuff up. Obviously I can't stop you from thinking that I hate every young indian player and want to see India lose just like I can't stop you from fantasising about Pandya being the second best after stokes. How many times would you like to get embarrassed here? :inti
 
Bhaag doesn't follow domestic cricket. So he hasn't heard about Saini.

And he likes to troll young players without watching them.

Lol what? I can also claim that you are just a pyjama league fan who has no idea about what Indian national team needs currently.
 
Bhaag doesn't follow domestic cricket. So he hasn't heard about Saini.

And he likes to troll young players without watching them.

Its no trolling...he genuinely suggest players who he knows arent threat to opposition so that India can lose. He will tell us everyone how inconsistent Pandya is if he fails couple of matches....but will back MSD even though he hasnt scored any meaningful runs since 2014 (no kidding). That is because he knows on his day Pandya can take the game away from opposition which current Dhoni cant. Surely he has seen Saini bowl....but want Chahar/Kaul to play....because he looks Saini as potential threat, especially in Old Trafford pitch. Any man alive would know Rayudu is not international class player (including Rayudu himself) but he would back him...so that our middle order remains weak. All this drama are pretty evident.

Anyway, ignoring the naysayers....I think below should be our playing XI for first few matches and take it from there:

Dhawan
Rohit
Rahul
Kohli (would bat him at 4)
Jadhhav/Agarwal
Pant
Pandya
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
 
Lol what? I can also claim that you are just a pyjama league fan who has no idea about what Indian national team needs currently.

I am an pyjama cricket fan and I am no cricket expert. I have played very little cricket with hard ball. But I do base my opinions after I watch a player. And I try to keep my obvious biases in control.
 
Its no trolling...he genuinely suggest players who he knows arent threat to opposition so that India can lose. He will tell us everyone how inconsistent Pandya is if he fails couple of matches....but will back MSD even though he hasnt scored any meaningful runs since 2014 (no kidding). That is because he knows on his day Pandya can take the game away from opposition which current Dhoni cant. Surely he has seen Saini bowl....but want Chahar/Kaul to play....because he looks Saini as potential threat, especially in Old Trafford pitch. Any man alive would know Rayudu is not international class player (including Rayudu himself) but he would back him...so that our middle order remains weak. All this drama are pretty evident.

Anyway, ignoring the naysayers....I think below should be our playing XI for first few matches and take it from there:

Dhawan
Rohit
Rahul
Kohli (would bat him at 4)
Jadhhav/Agarwal
Pant
Pandya
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah

His trolling doesn't influence team selection. So why do you take it seriously. He like to troll young players and it makes him happy. Let him be.
 
Its no trolling...he genuinely suggest players who he knows arent threat to opposition so that India can lose. He will tell us everyone how inconsistent Pandya is if he fails couple of matches....but will back MSD even though he hasnt scored any meaningful runs since 2014 (no kidding). That is because he knows on his day Pandya can take the game away from opposition which current Dhoni cant. Surely he has seen Saini bowl....but want Chahar/Kaul to play....because he looks Saini as potential threat, especially in Old Trafford pitch. Any man alive would know Rayudu is not international class player (including Rayudu himself) but he would back him...so that our middle order remains weak. All this drama are pretty evident.

Anyway, ignoring the naysayers....I think below should be our playing XI for first few matches and take it from there:

Dhawan
Rohit
Rahul
Kohli (would bat him at 4)
Jadhhav/Agarwal
Pant
Pandya
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah

You seriously have no idea about cricket. Just stick to IPL. Kohli at 4, Rahul at 3, Agarwal (who hasn't even played much) at 5, Pant at 6? Surely you want India to lose badly and have no idea of what you are typing here. :inti
 
Its no trolling...he genuinely suggest players who he knows arent threat to opposition so that India can lose. He will tell us everyone how inconsistent Pandya is if he fails couple of matches....but will back MSD even though he hasnt scored any meaningful runs since 2014 (no kidding). That is because he knows on his day Pandya can take the game away from opposition which current Dhoni cant. Surely he has seen Saini bowl....but want Chahar/Kaul to play....because he looks Saini as potential threat, especially in Old Trafford pitch. Any man alive would know Rayudu is not international class player (including Rayudu himself) but he would back him...so that our middle order remains weak. All this drama are pretty evident.

Anyway, ignoring the naysayers....I think below should be our playing XI for first few matches and take it from there:

Dhawan
Rohit
Rahul
Kohli (would bat him at 4)
Jadhhav/Agarwal
Pant
Pandya
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah

His trolling doesn't influence team selection. So why do you take it seriously. He like to troll young players and it makes him happy. Let him be.
As if BCCI reads your expert analysis here and then select players for national team. :misbah
 
2 wickets for Saini at pace as I speak. Another classic case of yours truely is right in picking young talents :ravi
 
Doesn't matter what the squad is. India is never going to get anywhere with this clueless captain who royally messed up the opportunity to put together a stable team in the last 2 years. On top of it he is clueless without other senior players on the field.
 
Picks itself

Kohli
Dhoni
Shikhar
Rohit
Kedar
Pandya
Bhuvi
Shani
Bumrah
Chahal
Kuldeep
Shankar
Khalil
Pant
Jadeja
ANother
 
Playing Eleven

Dhawan
Sharma
Kohli
Dhoni
Shankar
Jadhav
Pandya
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Chahal
Bumrah

Reserves-
Pant
Jadeja
Shami
KL Rahul
 
1. Sharma
2. Dhawan
3. Kohli
4. Rahul
5. Dhoni
6. Pant
7. Pandya
8. Bhuvanesh
9. Kuldeep
10. Bumrah
11. Shaami
 
From what i see, Pant would be warming the bench for entire tournament. His batting is superior to Dhoni but keeping is horrible. Add Dhoni’s pressure handling skills and he is the best suited for the job ATM no matter how some fans want him asap. Only thing i want is- He should bat at number 4.

However I wouldn’t mind Jadeja for Chahal, Shami for Bhuvi and Rahul for Shankar.
 
I am an pyjama cricket fan and I am no cricket expert. I have played very little cricket with hard ball. But I do base my opinions after I watch a player. And I try to keep my obvious biases in control.
No you don't keep your biases in control. Aren't you the same guy who can't even write Kohli's name properly and call him Kholi? I wonder why do you do so? Plastic fans like you are only good at preaching. Just keep your legs in your own pyjama. :inti
 
We need 2nd spinner. It has be Jadhav, Chahal or Jadeja.

The problem is that you need 3 solid pacers. I am not convinced with Pandya's bowling but what he can do at #7 with the bat, none else can so he also makes the team. Ideally, Dhoni should make way for Jhadav and Pant can keep but we all know Dhoni is not going anywhere. So, you can drop either of Rahul or Pant to play Jadhav.
 
The problem is that you need 3 solid pacers. I am not convinced with Pandya's bowling but what he can do at #7 with the bat, none else can so he also makes the team. Ideally, Dhoni should make way for Jhadav and Pant can keep but we all know Dhoni is not going anywhere. So, you can drop either of Rahul or Pant to play Jadhav.

I agree. Accommodating 3rd pacer either makes the moddle order weak which is already messed up or the spin department. The dilemma!!!

However I’m more inclined towards having two spinners because thats our strength. Tighten the middle overs. Dhoni isn’t going anywhere so Pandya has to be the 3rd seamer.
 
The problem is that you need 3 solid pacers. I am not convinced with Pandya's bowling but what he can do at #7 with the bat, none else can so he also makes the team. Ideally, Dhoni should make way for Jhadav and Pant can keep but we all know Dhoni is not going anywhere. So, you can drop either of Rahul or Pant to play Jadhav.

I would like to know what can he do at 7? For how long do we have to wait? As I said he is gareebo ka afridi. His fans used to give same excuses. Afridi at least had a good start to his career but his career was dragged because of this belief that he can do something with the bat that other's can't. :inti
 
I would like to know what can he do at 7? For how long do we have to wait? As I said he is gareebo ka afridi. His fans used to give same excuses. Afridi at least had a good start to his career but his career was dragged because of this belief that he can do something with the bat that other's can't. :inti

He cannot construct innings but he's good at hitting a few sixes in the end to take a total from 270 to 300.
 
He cannot construct innings but he's good at hitting a few sixes in the end to take a total from 270 to 300.

And how often he does that? Once in 6 innings? Even Anwar Ali used to do that occasionally lol. It's better to select a specialist player because we are already few good batsmen short.
 
No you don't keep your biases in control. Aren't you the same guy who can't even write Kohli's name properly and call him Kholi? I wonder why do you do so? Plastic fans like you are only good at preaching. Just keep your legs in your own pyjama. :inti

There is no bias about kaptaan. He is **** captain and he has way too much influence on team India. No one person should have that much power on a team.
 
If I was MSK Prasad, after selecting Saini....I would close my eyes again, take a deep breath and select Prithvi Shaw as opener for the world cup. Rohit/Dhawan in present form is a recipe of disaster.
 
If I was MSK Prasad, after selecting Saini....I would close my eyes again, take a deep breath and select Prithvi Shaw as opener for the world cup. Rohit/Dhawan in present form is a recipe of disaster.

Unfortunately Cricket is a political and public body in India! It is not easy to take such bold moves...
 
And how often he does that? Once in 6 innings? Even Anwar Ali used to do that occasionally lol. It's better to select a specialist player because we are already few good batsmen short.

So who should bat at No.7 in your proposed team? A bowler? (OR a batsman? Then who should bowl the remaining 5 to 10 overs?) Every team has this issue (5th bowler, No.7 batsman...) and no team has a perfect person in that spot! If they have, then they will be a really strong team! India is good only with this much!

Iconic Australian and West Indies team had only specialists because their Top 6 batsmen were so strong that they didn't need any batting after that! Also the 4 specialist bowlers were so good that it was enough even if someone like Sadagopal Ramesh with left hand could fill out the remaining 10 overs! (Most times these 10 overs are not required to be bowled)
 
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Team should be like this:

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Shankar
Dhoni
Jhadav
H pandya
Buvhi
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah


Bench:
Rayudu
P. shaw
Chahal
Saini
 
Rahul is almost fixed for me as backup opener & also contender for no.4 or no.3 if kohli moves to no.4 .

Key decisions to make :

1) Pant or karthik : backup wk batsman


2) Rayudu or shankar

3 ) extra fast bowler/
spin allrounder -jadeja

saini or krishna or khaleel or chahar :

all four of them performed well in india A tours

Saini & krishna offers more pace

Khaleel being left armer adds variety

Chahar : bhuvneshwar Kumar is already in the squad so I don't think he is in the squad


Rohit
Dhawan
Rahul
Kohli
Dhoni
Jadhav
Hardik
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Chahal


Backup :
bhuvneshwar kumar
Pant
Shankar
Jadeja / saini / khaleel / krishna.
 
Doesn't matter....India wont be winning the world cup anyway. My fellow Indians should keep their expectation minimum. Our international picks in LOIs are always done keeping CSKs interest in mind. Else likes of current MSD, Rayudu, Chahar, Thakur, Kedar etc would never have got selected. Though Kohli is our ODI captain...its never his team and we all know who pulls the string. So I would not be too excited about this world cup. Thank god our test team don't have any such influence and its purely picked on merit.
 
Virender Sehwag proposed his version of 15- man squad for WC as below: -

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Dhoni
Pant
Jadhav
Pandya
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Chahal
Bumrah
Shami
Rahul
Shankar
Jadeja

This is exactly the 15-man squad I will also go with and hoping that would be the team selection as well. No offense to Rayudu but dont think he makes the cut.

This is an era of 320-330 runs total and if India have to put more runs than this in first inning or chase this much, they should look for someone like Rishabh Pant over say, Rayudu. Dhoni, on other hand, can be a vital cog in the middle order at no. 4, his role will be to anchor the inning well and hold one end if a collapse happen.

Pant's role will be similar to like Raina had in 2011 WC. If he or Jadhav fails in the starting few games, then bring Vijay Shankar as replacement for one.

Pandya is a must at 7, irrespective of what some posters say. He is not a Kapil Dev but the best all-rounder in the country currently.

Rahul is a backup opener and I am sure if he opens, he will do well. But he doesn't deserves a place ahead of Dhawan and Rohit who have been the vital cog of a strong top3 for India. He hasn't done anything of worth at 4 though.
 
Virender Sehwag proposed his version of 15- man squad for WC as below: -

Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Dhoni
Pant
Jadhav
Pandya
Bhuvi
Kuldeep
Chahal
Bumrah
Shami
Rahul
Shankar
Jadeja

This is exactly the 15-man squad I will also go with and hoping that would be the team selection as well. No offense to Rayudu but dont think he makes the cut.

This is an era of 320-330 runs total and if India have to put more runs than this in first inning or chase this much, they should look for someone like Rishabh Pant over say, Rayudu. Dhoni, on other hand, can be a vital cog in the middle order at no. 4, his role will be to anchor the inning well and hold one end if a collapse happen.

Pant's role will be similar to like Raina had in 2011 WC. If he or Jadhav fails in the starting few games, then bring Vijay Shankar as replacement for one.

Pandya is a must at 7, irrespective of what some posters say. He is not a Kapil Dev but the best all-rounder in the country currently.

Rahul is a backup opener and I am sure if he opens, he will do well. But he doesn't deserves a place ahead of Dhawan and Rohit who have been the vital cog of a strong top3 for India. He hasn't done anything of worth at 4 though.

Only 3 genuine quicks for 10+ games WC in England?
 
Only 3 genuine quicks for 10+ games WC in England?

Yes, most likely only two will play, Bumrah and Shami. Pandya will be third pace bowling option and Kulcha will be the spin-duo.

Jadhav or Shankar can be sixth bowling option.

If India have to win, a lot will depend on top 3 eventually.

In case, Rohit Sharma misses from WC, there may be some more changes as then Rahul can be played as opener and then one extra player will be added.
 
Yes, most likely only two will play, Bumrah and Shami. Pandya will be third pace bowling option and Kulcha will be the spin-duo.

Jadhav or Shankar can be sixth bowling option.

If India have to win, a lot will depend on top 3 eventually.

In case, Rohit Sharma misses from WC, there may be some more changes as then Rahul can be played as opener and then one extra player will be added.
The problem is that if we play these 4 together the tail will be awful,the last 4 wont even add 10 runs
 
What is the use of having jadeja in the team,he is a fake allrounder and his bowling will be trash in england.
 
He is a fake allrounder but Pandya is a real one lol? :inti

I think you were not following Indian Cricket when we invested so much on Jadeja and hoped that he will be our alrounder and he used to fail miserably! (Much like as you see Pandya failing in matches where you expected!) Jadeja only clicked as Good Test Bowler (only in India) and a very good fielder, that's it! His batting is a lottery and he cannot be relied as wicket taking bowler in ODIs (what we expect when you consider him as pure bowler! At the most he can bowl some economical overs, which even Yuvaraj used to do as part-time bowler with better wicket-taking capacity!)

Pandya on the other hand is a rare breed for SC teams and needs to be persisted if you like it or not! And it will be a huge mistake if we don't utilize him in this world cup after so much investment! If he fails badly then he will automatically be fazed out (applies to most players!) So stay calm...
 
He is a fake allrounder but Pandya is a real one lol? :inti

Just insert Pandya in place of Jadeja in the forgettable 2015 WC Semifinals against Australia! It opens up so many options. Jadeja was batting at No.7 in that match, Pandya would have done (or assured) better than 16(17)... Just the kind of batsman you may need at No.7 at least on papers! And he would not have done worse than 56/0 in 10 overs that Jadeja bowled! At least he would got something like 66/2 in 10 overs or 48/1 in 6 overs which is much valuable! And as a fielder he is as good as Jadeja! And more importantly it meant that we need not have played Mohit Sharma (75/2) and instead fielded a better wicket-taking bowler (the concept of Wrist Spinner which India developed in later years!) That is the "balance" which he can bring to the team!

I am not saying that this should have happened then in 2015. Of course it was Dhoni's suffocating era which was outdated in 2015 itself which couldn't have been changed then (it still works for his CSK team because he deals with inferior teams in IPL with blend of weaker players which he can exploit, as the teams get reduced to Bangladesh, Zim, WI, Srilanka kind of lesser ranked teams standards!) That's the best which could have happened and it happened! And Jadeja was given ample opportunities! So you still want to get back to that! (With some exceptions like champions trophy 2013 where everything fell in the place including pitches!)

Yes Jadeja can still be in our squad as substitute 1st choice fielder and a makeshift spinner...
 
I think you were not following Indian Cricket when we invested so much on Jadeja and hoped that he will be our alrounder and he used to fail miserably! (Much like as you see Pandya failing in matches where you expected!) Jadeja only clicked as Good Test Bowler (only in India) and a very good fielder, that's it! His batting is a lottery and he cannot be relied as wicket taking bowler in ODIs (what we expect when you consider him as pure bowler! At the most he can bowl some economical overs, which even Yuvaraj used to do as part-time bowler with better wicket-taking capacity!)

Pandya on the other hand is a rare breed for SC teams and needs to be persisted if you like it or not! And it will be a huge mistake if we don't utilize him in this world cup after so much investment! If he fails badly then he will automatically be fazed out (applies to most players!) So stay calm...

Not sure why are you writing essays on Jadeja vs Pandya. I am not in favour of picking Jadeja either. I was just asking a simple question if Jadeja is a fake allrounder then what makes Pandya a real allrounder? :inti
 
Not sure why are you writing essays on Jadeja vs Pandya. I am not in favour of picking Jadeja either. I was just asking a simple question if Jadeja is a fake allrounder then what makes Pandya a real allrounder? :inti

Going by your logic (and strict yardsticks) even Kapil, Kallis, Imran, Klusener, etc, are some kind of fake alrounders!
 
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