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INDIA has threatened to invade Pakistan in a dramatic rise in rhetoric as the two countries continue a vicious border dispute, it has been reported.
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/933396/india-pakistan-conflict-india-threaten-invasion-world-war-three

oh no, we are doomed ..
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Don’t read express news. They always come up with crazy sensationalist headlines. There news stories are full lies aswell usually.
 
This has got my adrenaline pumping!! If it happens, I will quit my job and enrol in the army and teach the enemy a lesson they will never remember.
 
Who are expressed.co.uk and how do they know this?

We're no closer to war with Pakistan than we were last year. Or 10 years ago.
 
World war 3 :91:

More chance I'll end up fighting Cricketcartoons over Indians getting all the credit while serving Pakistani food in their restaurants. Although come to think of it I'd probably end up fighting Pakistanis instead with their deluded ideas about putting potato in biriyani.
 
boomboomcheema said:
Lol Indian Army, bunch of Cowards. Let them try :)))
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I know, still remember when 90,000 of them surrendered like cowards and disgraced the nation for an eternity. I can also not forgive how American drones are bombing our territory at will while Indian soldiers are busy hiding in the caves. :facepalm:


Now compare this to the glory Pakistani soldiers have brought to their country. Bravo! :salute:
 
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Rajnath Singh looks like the real life version of the Pakistani dad from East is East. I wonder if he's got a barber's chair at home?
 
Like to see the politicans fight on the front line. Can see Nawaz surrendering as he sees Modi run towards him on the wagah border lol But we have Sheikh Rashid but yet again India has Lallu Parsad :) It would be a match to see :) I think Altaf bhais loyalty will decide who wins :)
 
India did jack to Pakistan after Mumbai 2008. This too on allegations.

The only invasion is within India, by Indians.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Lol fake sensationalism.
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Is this a fake quote?

"He said: “We will not only secure India internally but can also cross border, if needed, to protect the country.”

Im sure it is, no Home Minister would be stupid enough to say such a thing.
 
India may be one the worst countries in the world to live in but its army is not to be messed with. Not to forget there are ferocious RSS swayamsevaks, Shivseniks and Karni Sena warriors as back-up arrangement who are most ready to give their blood for the motherland.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Is this a fake quote?

"He said: “We will not only secure India internally but can also cross border, if needed, to protect the country.”

Im sure it is, no Home Minister would be stupid enough to say such a thing.
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So if India's borders are threatened then India wont go to war? Isnt this the basic principle of all sovereign states? Protect the sovereignity at all costs?
 
Nobody can and will win a war. The masses will suffer and the elites will pick up the commissions from Arms purchses. Their children will be drinking in the same watering holes, and dancing on the same dance floors in America and Europe. Let Kashmir be independent of the 2 and then together fight our biggest enemy- poverty.
 
Keep it civil guys, no personal attacks or references to prohibited substances.
 
No where is the word "invade" used anywhere by Rajnath in the article. He is saying India can cross over in to AJK, Pak forces can do the same in IoK is well. The rest is the same old boring rhetoric by the frustrated enemy. We didn't create all our missiles to show off.
 
“Kashmir was with India, Kashmir is with India and it will remain with India forever.

“Kashmir's children are like my own and would not allow anyone to radicalise them.”
 
Hitman said:
“Kashmir was with India, Kashmir is with India and it will remain with India forever.

“Kashmir's children are like my own and would not allow anyone to radicalise them.”
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"I am going to brainwash you into believing these lies."

"Obviously i can't reveal my real motives because i have to act good infront of the world. Bam bam bole, Gandhi's India, yoga, bollywood, soft power"
 
freelance_cricketer said:
India may be one the worst countries in the world to live in but its army is not to be messed with. Not to forget there are ferocious RSS swayamsevaks, Shivseniks and Karni Sena warriors as back-up arrangement who are most ready to give their blood for the motherland.
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Sounds like the Hindutva version of the Taliban. Of course the problem is that if it is the religious zealots who are the only ones willing to defend the motherland, then countries like Pakistan and India will inevitably end up being run by religious zealots.
 
The Express is a sensationalist tabloid that prints crap. We don't need our former masters to escalate the rhetoric; we're more than capable of doing it ourselves.
 
Fake news.

But it succeeded in its aim. At least OP got suckered into spreading it even more.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Sounds like the Hindutva version of the Taliban. Of course the problem is that if it is the religious zealots who are the only ones willing to defend the motherland, then countries like Pakistan and India will inevitably end up being run by religious zealots.
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Credit must be given to the legendary Jawahar Lal Nehru for keeping these hindutva jokers in check all these years. India;s been awful ever since that tea vendor became prime minister letting all these hooligans run free beating up minorities black and blue.
 
Loool Once again Tiger is alive! More Like Salman Khan to the rescue
 
3 billion people will die in a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan. Thats about half the worlds population. So yeah lets have a phadda and then destroy the planet...
 
the Great Khan said:
3 billion people will die in a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan. Thats about half the worlds population. So yeah lets have a phadda and then destroy the planet...
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Even if the nuclear exchange doesnt happen, an India Pak War will severly hurt India's economy and the state in which Pakistan's economy is in, it will bankrupt Pakistan for sure...
 
Is the invasion over? Even though I don’t live in Pakistan I am still hiding in my basement drinking expired mello yellow ever since Rajnath Singh issued the threats.
 
The Big War is at our doorsteps thanks to Iran’s provocation and there’s nothing you can do now to avoid this war.

The call is coming.

It’s time to make your intentions clear and choose your side.
 
Bhaijaan said:
The Big War is at our doorsteps thanks to Iran’s provocation and there’s nothing you can do now to avoid this war.

The call is coming.

It’s time to make your intentions clear and choose your side.
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This was your Mahan Bharat getting there kicked in (literally by China). Who you going to send to Pak ? Akshay sunny or dharamendra ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266389707698520066
 
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AAli98 said:
This was your Mahan Bharat getting there kicked in (literally by China). Who you going to send to Pak ? Akshay sunny or dharamendra ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266389707698520066
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Pointless.

There are many videos of Bharatiya soldiers attacking Chinese soldiers on the internet.

China cannot mess with Bharat for as long as Sanatan Dharma is reigning supreme.
 
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Bhaijaan said:
India may be one the worst countries in the world to live in but its army is not to be messed with. Not to forget there are ferocious RSS swayamsevaks, Shivseniks and Karni Sena warriors as back-up arrangement who are most ready to give their blood for the motherland.
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Funny, because they will be the first ones to vanish from the battlefield like they never signed up for it. :inti
 
Every thing is fair in Mohobbat & Yudha.

So i urge everyone to not take anything personally or to heart.
 
Bhaijaan said:
We are ready for war! 🇮🇳
Unfortunately no one is daring us. But our patience is being tested every moment as our friends and sword brothers face the biggest threat to their sovereignty.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1840981790858555623
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Nice juicy target for babar and raad

Unlike iranians our missiles won't have dud warheads they will cause an high explosive penetration like abhinandan found.

And now with shoot scoot ability of nasr and fatah systems your air defences will be overrun in no time there isn't huge distance between our borders and those systems with maneuvering missiles have been specifically developed for your defences and like I said those missiles can carry significant payload and even mini nukes. They won't be duds.

And if your infantry enters pakistan forget army the people themselves who are armed to the teeth every village is loaded with arms will tear your soldiers literally limb from limb . You see our people are ones who will strap a landmine and roll under tanks and kill themselves to stop you and no darpok sanghi has that level of iman jazba and conviction.
 
mazkhan said:
Nice juicy target for babar and raad

Unlike iranians our missiles won't have dud warheads they will cause an high explosive penetration like abhinandan found.

And now with shoot scoot ability of nasr and fatah systems your air defences will be overrun in no time there isn't huge distance between our borders and those systems with maneuvering missiles have been specifically developed for your defences and like I said those missiles can carry significant payload and even mini nukes. They won't be duds.

And if your infantry enters pakistan forget army the people themselves who are armed to the teeth every village is loaded with arms will tear your soldiers literally limb from limb . You see our people are ones who will strap a landmine and roll under tanks and kill themselves to stop you and no darpok sanghi has that level of iman jazba and conviction.
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I like your confidence but we’re not thinking about Pakistan bro. It’s not our competition.
 
mazkhan said:
Nice juicy target for babar and raad

Unlike iranians our missiles won't have dud warheads they will cause an high explosive penetration like abhinandan found.

And now with shoot scoot ability of nasr and fatah systems your air defences will be overrun in no time there isn't huge distance between our borders and those systems with maneuvering missiles have been specifically developed for your defences and like I said those missiles can carry significant payload and even mini nukes. They won't be duds.

And if your infantry enters pakistan forget army the people themselves who are armed to the teeth every village is loaded with arms will tear your soldiers literally limb from limb . You see our people are ones who will strap a landmine and roll under tanks and kill themselves to stop you and no darpok sanghi has that level of iman jazba and conviction.
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You are wildly underestimating Sanatani jazba-e-junoom too brother. Sanatanis win wars in a smarter way, rolling under the tanks to die is a stupid tactic no self-respecting human should take pride in.
 
The last thing we need is war.

We should be hoping for a peaceful resolution to the Kashmir issue and in the future a European style open border system where one can board a train from dera Ismail khan, stop off in Delhi for a snack and end up in Dhakka.

Pakistan and Bangladesh have already united their hearts. We just need our Hindustani brothers to stop their regional terrorism and join arms with us to make this vision a reality.

We will need to give Assam to Bhutan or something though because the don't deserve to be part of this union.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The last thing we need is war.

We should be hoping for a peaceful resolution to the Kashmir issue and in the future a European style open border system where one can board a train from dera Ismail khan, stop off in Delhi for a snack and end up in Dhakka.

Pakistan and Bangladesh have already united their hearts. We just need our Hindustani brothers to stop their regional terrorism and join arms with us to make this vision a reality.

We will need to give Assam to Bhutan or something though because the don't deserve to be part of this union.
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Beautiful first half brother, but opening borders only works when other side brings some value. While @Bhaijaan and some others might do it just to share a jhappi with their Sindhu Ghati Cousins, many like me see it as a transactional step.

Right now, I am not sure about what value opening borders brings to Bharat, if anything it only multiplies troubles.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The last thing we need is war.

We should be hoping for a peaceful resolution to the Kashmir issue and in the future a European style open border system where one can board a train from dera Ismail khan, stop off in Delhi for a snack and end up in Dhakka.

Pakistan and Bangladesh have already united their hearts. We just need our Hindustani brothers to stop their regional terrorism and join arms with us to make this vision a reality.

We will need to give Assam to Bhutan or something though because the don't deserve to be part of this union.
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I wish this happened unfortunately the subcontinental Muslims’s obsession to dominate, spread, convert and rule everyone and everything on the planet comes in the way of peace ever coming to subcontinent.

Hindus and Muslims can be friends and family in US, Europe, Middle East, Hapan, Korea, Russia anywhere in the world but just not in Subcontinent because the Muslims in Subcontinent are just ‘different’.

Harsh but a reality.

I don’t agree but majority of hindus would gladly accept status quo any day with Pakistan and throw away the weapons and open borders. But what do we get in return? Muslims have historically taken advantage of the soft heart approach of hindus in this part of the world.
 
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The world is a diverse place. Every region has its religion, customs, language, traditional dress, food etc. The subcontinental Muslims however want to impose one dress, one language, one religion, one way of life everywhere and destroy the very fabric of multicultural diverse societies.
 
Bhaijaan said:
I wish this happened unfortunately the subcontinental Muslims’s obsession to dominate, spread , convert and rule everyone and everything on the planet comes in the way of peace ever coming to subcontinent.

Hindus and Muslims can be friends and family in US, Europe, Middle East, Hapan, Korea, Russia anywhere in the world but just not in Subcontinent because the Muslims in Subcontinent are just ‘different’.

Harsh but a reality.

I don’t agree but majority of hindus would gladly accept status quo any day with Pakistan and throw away the weapons and open borders. But what do we get in return? Muslims have historically taken advantage of the soft heart approach of hindus in this part of the world.
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The heyday of Bharat was the most unified when Hindus and Muslims ruled together in Mughal India. A Muslim HOS and what was essentially a Brahmin civil service created one of the greatest empires in human history.


You mention the Middle east and other relationships between Hindu and Muslim. What is common here is the Hindus humble themselves. In the subcontinent, they have a weird historical chip on their shoulder, and rather than consider themselves as equals, they take the high ground and look down at Muslims. Its only in the subcontinent they mention love jihad, or cows. In the middle east a prominent dubai based blogger married a hindu actress. But there was not a peep about love jihad from the Hindus. They instead threw bouquets. Had it been a subcontinent Muslim @uppercut would have wanted to burn down the house of hundreds of innocent muslims in return.

India is doing ok now, but it is doing it on the back of population and cheap labour. Pakistan is floundering because, despite its "Muslim" leadership, that beautiful Hindu civil service that helped to drive the subcontinent to its unseen heights is now missing.

We need to re-connect.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The heyday of Bharat was the most unified when Hindus and Muslims ruled together in Mughal India. A Muslim HOS and what was essentially a Brahmin civil service created one of the greatest empires in human history.


You mention the Middle east and other relationships between Hindu and Muslim. What is common here is the Hindus humble themselves. In the subcontinent, they have a weird historical chip on their shoulder, and rather than consider themselves as equals, they take the high ground and look down at Muslims. Its only in the subcontinent they mention love jihad, or cows. In the middle east a prominent dubai based blogger married a hindu actress. But there was not a peep about love jihad from the Hindus. They instead threw bouquets. Had it been a subcontinent Muslim @uppercut would have wanted to burn down the house of hundreds of innocent muslims in return.

India is doing ok now, but it is doing it on the back of population and cheap labour. Pakistan is floundering because, despite its "Muslim" leadership, that beautiful Hindu civil service that helped to drive the subcontinent to its unseen heights is now missing.

We need to re-connect.
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If you want to quote/associate me to statements ... pls use my original posts and not Your distorted versions. And also commit to subsequent discussions.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The heyday of Bharat was the most unified when Hindus and Muslims ruled together in Mughal India. A Muslim HOS and what was essentially a Brahmin civil service created one of the greatest empires in human history.


You mention the Middle east and other relationships between Hindu and Muslim. What is common here is the Hindus humble themselves. In the subcontinent, they have a weird historical chip on their shoulder, and rather than consider themselves as equals, they take the high ground and look down at Muslims. Its only in the subcontinent they mention love jihad, or cows. In the middle east a prominent dubai based blogger married a hindu actress. But there was not a peep about love jihad from the Hindus. They instead threw bouquets. Had it been a subcontinent Muslim @uppercut would have wanted to burn down the house of hundreds of innocent muslims in return.

India is doing ok now, but it is doing it on the back of population and cheap labour. Pakistan is floundering because, despite its "Muslim" leadership, that beautiful Hindu civil service that helped to drive the subcontinent to its unseen heights is now missing.

We need to re-connect.
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Not too disimilar to what is being recreated in western capitals across the world either, but I guess you could include software and services as part of the civil service in the modern era. Good post.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
The heyday of Bharat was the most unified when Hindus and Muslims ruled together in Mughal India.
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Neither hindus or Muslims ruled together or separately. I think it’s about time people stop calling the rule of certain affluent tribes and families as a collective rule by hindus or Muslims. Overwhelming majority of people of this land have always been poor while a few ruled.

We never voted anyone to power until after independence from the British.

In Pakistan, democracy is still struggling and the country is still massively under the indirect rule and influence of its military.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Not too disimilar to what is being recreated in western capitals across the world either, but I guess you could include software and services as part of the civil service in the modern era. Good post.
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Hindus are the GOAT administrators.

Even though they cry about it now much of the Mughal Empires success was due to its Brahim administration. They just put their head down and got on with it.

Look in the UK, Braverman and Patel happily marry non Hindus to get the job done. Sunak happy to work recite the lords prayer in Church. The same in the UAE.

I suspect many of the Hindus during the Mughal times were the same. Forget dharma, let's do some work was their motto


They are superior to the Muslims in this regard.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Neither hindus or Muslims ruled together or separately. I think it’s about time people stop calling the rule of certain affluent tribes and families as a collective rule by hindus or Muslims. Overwhelming majority of people of this land have always been poor while a few ruled.

We never voted anyone to power until after independence from the British.

In Pakistan, democracy is still struggling and the country is still massively under the indirect rule and influence of its military.
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You are right. I only use Muslim/Hindu empires to show a delineation to the right wing Hindus who want to go down this path.

No matter the religion I see them as Indian empires. We can respect their good points and condemn their bad points without making it a religious argument ( since most were multi religious).
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Hindus are the GOAT administrators.

Even though they cry about it now much of the Mughal Empires success was due to its Brahim administration. They just put their head down and got on with it.

Look in the UK, Braverman and Patel happily marry non Hindus to get the job done. Sunak happy to work recite the lords prayer in Church. The same in the UAE.

I suspect many of the Hindus during the Mughal times were the same. Forget dharma, let's do some work was their motto


They are superior to the Muslims in this regard.
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Thanks for recognising the competency of hindus in administrative work historically. Brahmin culture has always put emphasis on education. It wasn’t perfect but it had its advantages in the fact that key skills were passed on from generation to generation.

In the modern era, it’s just down to the quality of education + High degree of competition and that applies to all religions. Our best civil servants today come from all religions.

But i wonder why you don’t recognize the leadership qualities of our people when so many of them have been CEOs of top companies in the world and the fact that Modi, Sunak, Vivek, Kamala etc are some prominent global leaders of Bharatiya origin.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Thanks for recognising the competency of hindus in administrative work historically. Brahmin culture has always put emphasis on education. It wasn’t perfect but it had its advantages in the fact that key skills were passed on from generation to generation.

In the modern era, it’s just down to the quality of education + High degree of competition and that applies to all religions. Our best civil servants today come from all religions.

But i wonder why you don’t recognize the leadership qualities of our people when so many of them have been CEOs of top companies in the world and the fact that Modi, Sunak, Vivek, Kamala etc are some prominent global leaders of Bharatiya origin.
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None of those are seen as global leaders though. Modi is seen mostly as a useful idiot in western circles, Sunak wasn't even elected by the British public and Kamala has not even won office yet. The true test of a global leader is when they say jump, the world asks how high? Can we think of any such occasion where this has happened for these prospective leaders?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Hindus are the GOAT administrators.

Even though they cry about it now much of the Mughal Empires success was due to its Brahim administration. They just put their head down and got on with it.

Look in the UK, Braverman and Patel happily marry non Hindus to get the job done. Sunak happy to work recite the lords prayer in Church. The same in the UAE.

I suspect many of the Hindus during the Mughal times were the same. Forget dharma, let's do some work was their motto


They are superior to the Muslims in this regard.
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You're obviously being a fair bit sarcastic but there's truth in what you say. Indians like Chinese are essentially inward looking rule-followers. There are exceptions of course and certain communities that break the mould but that's been the nature for centuries.

The Chinese are changing though they're still very reluctant to really flex their muscle. Indians are still further behind.

If there's been one benefit of the awful turn towards religious revivalism and muscular Hindutva, it's the assertiveness I see in a lot of the small town youth. It's still mostly false bravado but the seeds might lead to more quiet confidence and beneficial arrogance in a couple of generations. That'll have pros in risk taking ability, entrepreneurship etc. but also cons in terms of potential to engage in needless conflict.
 
Red-Indian said:
You're obviously being a fair bit sarcastic but there's truth in what you say. Indians like Chinese are essentially inward looking rule-followers. There are exceptions of course and certain communities that break the mould but that's been the nature for centuries.

The Chinese are changing though they're still very reluctant to really flex their muscle. Indians are still further behind.

If there's been one benefit of the awful turn towards religious revivalism and muscular Hindutva, it's the assertiveness I see in a lot of the small town youth. It's still mostly false bravado but the seeds might lead to more quiet confidence and beneficial arrogance in a couple of generations. That'll have pros in risk taking ability, entrepreneurship etc. but also cons in terms of potential to engage in needless conflict.
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It's something I've expressed admiration for on PP in the past. If I had a successful company I'd happily hand it over to an Indian to run it.

Wrt your last paragraph. I have noticed this change in confidence in many of the Indians I interact with at work. Previously they would come in feeling slightly inferior ( to western workers), now they come in with a sense of belonging and confidence.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
None of those are seen as global leaders though. Modi is seen mostly as a useful idiot in western circles, Sunak wasn't even elected by the British public and Kamala has not even won office yet. The true test of a global leader is when they say jump, the world asks how high? Can we think of any such occasion where this has happened for these prospective leaders?
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There is really no such thing as a global leader nowadays. Even when superpowers like USA and China try to flex their muscle, there are countries that defy them. A good leader is one who can protect his country's interests while keeping the rest of the world more or less happy, and Modi is doing an excellent job at that.
The days when power meant people bowing or jumping on command are long over. Such medieval ideas have no place in the modern world.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It's something I've expressed admiration for on PP in the past. If I had a successful company I'd happily hand it over to an Indian to run it.

Wrt your last paragraph. I have noticed this change in confidence in many of the Indians I interact with at work. Previously they would come in feeling slightly inferior ( to western workers), now they come in with a sense of belonging and confidence.
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I wonder why this nature has escaped the Pakistanis. There's plenty of doctors and similar professionals but relatively few (even considering the proportionate population) Pakistanis/Pakistani origin at the top of big corporations or global administrative positions.

Maybe Punjabis who dominate Pakistan are one of those subcontinental exceptions. In India, they have turned their inability to follow rules, be rebels without a cause etc. to find creative expression - they seem to dominate the cultural side: music, cinema etc. In Pakistan, I'm not so sure - some of those avenues are closed so where did they turn those energies to?

It also didn't help that you hardly got any South Indian Muslims - those are essentially the same as South Indians in general - administrators, rule followers, a little low on creativity and risk taking ability. They would've nicely balanced out the aggressive ,risk-taking Punjabis, UPites and Biharis you got.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
None of those are seen as global leaders though. Modi is seen mostly as a useful idiot in western circles, Sunak wasn't even elected by the British public and Kamala has not even won office yet. The true test of a global leader is when they say jump, the world asks how high? Can we think of any such occasion where this has happened for these prospective leaders?
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There’s a dearth of great global leaders everywhere. It’s not a deficiency of Hinduism.
 
gani999 said:
There is really no such thing as a global leader nowadays. Even when superpowers like USA and China try to flex their muscle, there are countries that defy them. A good leader is one who can protect his country's interests while keeping the rest of the world more or less happy, and Modi is doing an excellent job at that.
The days when power meant people bowing or jumping on command are long over. Such medieval ideas have no place in the modern world.
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With that first line I agree. But that is why I took issue with Modi being described as a great global leader. He may well be viewed as a great Hindutva leader, but that is not really a global concern.
 
Red-Indian said:
I wonder why this nature has escaped the Pakistanis. There's plenty of doctors and similar professionals but relatively few (even considering the proportionate population) Pakistanis/Pakistani origin at the top of big corporations or global administrative positions.

Maybe Punjabis who dominate Pakistan are one of those subcontinental exceptions. In India, they have turned their inability to follow rules, be rebels without a cause etc. to find creative expression - they seem to dominate the cultural side: music, cinema etc. In Pakistan, I'm not so sure - some of those avenues are closed so where did they turn those energies to?

It also didn't help that you hardly got any South Indian Muslims - those are essentially the same as South Indians in general - administrators, rule followers, a little low on creativity and risk taking ability. They would've nicely balanced out the aggressive ,risk-taking Punjabis, UPites and Biharis you got.
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Pakistanis have always had outward confidence, if anything they have too much of it with little substance to show for it. Maybe they are more similar to your Punjab elements in India. Lots of noise and braggadocio but usually over simple stuff like flash cars or fancy houses.
 
Red-Indian said:
I wonder why this nature has escaped the Pakistanis. There's plenty of doctors and similar professionals but relatively few (even considering the proportionate population) Pakistanis/Pakistani origin at the top of big corporations or global administrative positions.

Maybe Punjabis who dominate Pakistan are one of those subcontinental exceptions. In India, they have turned their inability to follow rules, be rebels without a cause etc. to find creative expression - they seem to dominate the cultural side: music, cinema etc. In Pakistan, I'm not so sure - some of those avenues are closed so where did they turn those energies to?

It also didn't help that you hardly got any South Indian Muslims - those are essentially the same as South Indians in general - administrators, rule followers, a little low on creativity and risk taking ability. They would've nicely balanced out the aggressive ,risk-taking Punjabis, UPites and Biharis you got.
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How are Punabis creative ? The greatest Indian directors are either Bengali or South Indian. Same for music directors. Maharashtra has legendary singers. Great Indian mathematicians are mostly south Indian followed by Bengalis. Don't think Punjabis come close in any of these lists.
 
anikrc1 said:
How are Punabis creative ? The greatest Indian directors are either Bengali or South Indian. Same for music directors. Maharashtra has legendary singers. Great Indian mathematicians are mostly south Indian followed by Bengalis. Don't think Punjabis come close in any of these lists.
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Not like I'm some huge fan of the Punjabi creative scene but they seem to have completely internationalized their music. The number of Punjabi stars who've gone truly global - Diljit Dosanjh, AP Dhillon, Honey Singh...there's no comparison.

On the topic of music, what's going on with Indians and the obsession with live concert tickets?

Coldplay Mumbai tickets were changing hands for $6K (5 lakhs INR) on a WhatsApp group I'm on.
My neighbour and a couple of friends are clubbing together to buy a table for $8K (6L INR) for the Diljit Dosanjh concert
 
anikrc1 said:
How are Punabis creative ? The greatest Indian directors are either Bengali or South Indian. Same for music directors. Maharashtra has legendary singers. Great Indian mathematicians are mostly south Indian followed by Bengalis. Don't think Punjabis come close in any of these lists.
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Punjabi directors are good at spinning off the same old Ghisa-Pita love stories and packaging them with love songs and some Dishum-Dishum stunts. 👳‍♂️
 
Red-Indian said:
I wonder why this nature has escaped the Pakistanis. There's plenty of doctors and similar professionals but relatively few (even considering the proportionate population) Pakistanis/Pakistani origin at the top of big corporations or global administrative positions.

Maybe Punjabis who dominate Pakistan are one of those subcontinental exceptions. In India, they have turned their inability to follow rules, be rebels without a cause etc. to find creative expression - they seem to dominate the cultural side: music, cinema etc. In Pakistan, I'm not so sure - some of those avenues are closed so where did they turn those energies to?

It also didn't help that you hardly got any South Indian Muslims - those are essentially the same as South Indians in general - administrators, rule followers, a little low on creativity and risk taking ability. They would've nicely balanced out the aggressive ,risk-taking Punjabis, UPites and Biharis you got.
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None of those creative avenues are really closed. They may not be as financially lucrative as India but Pakistani Punjab has a thriving creative industry. I think some of the films,drama and music have a good following in India too and Punjabi cinema has some cross over actors across both countries.

But overall I'm not so sure where the difference is between us and India. At times it's chalk and cheese.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
None of those are seen as global leaders though. Modi is seen mostly as a useful idiot in western circles, Sunak wasn't even elected by the British public and Kamala has not even won office yet. The true test of a global leader is when they say jump, the world asks how high? Can we think of any such occasion where this has happened for these prospective leaders?
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Your baseless hatred for Modi is glaring. Stop looking through your green tinted lenses. Useful idiots were Manmohan singh snd the Congress gov. Modi totally turned it around.

And the true test of a global leader?? Well the only true global leader now is the US president if you go by your criteria. And guess who or which country will jump the highest when the US asks it to? Hint hint- it starts with a P and ends with an N 😀
 
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