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India U19s [220/2] defeat Australia U19s [216] by 8 wkts to win the 2018 Under 19 Cricket World Cup

Kohli isn't close to retirement and it appears like India have found his heir :danish
 
Shubman Gill is absolutely sensational. This is the first time I'm watching him. Stats and numbers don't lie. It doesn't take more than a couple of overs to see how good this guy is. This guy could easily not look out of place in senior international games. He has all the time in the world, is scoring at 125+ SR in third gear, while leaving balls and playing as though it's a low key net session that he's still taking seriously.

This guy will set IPL on fire this year.
 
Shubman Gill looks like a batsman from another dimension.
Unbelievable talent
 
volcyz said:
Shubman Gill looks like a batsman from another dimension.
Unbelievable talent
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Really does, I think it would be a mistake keeping him in domestic cricket when he's more than ready for the next level and to learn from playing with and against the best at the highest level.
 
No middle ground with some forummers here. Either a player is already 'ready for highest level' or useless with no hope of evolving. Get a grip all of you.
 
Aman said:
Really does, I think it would be a mistake keeping him in domestic cricket when he's more than ready for the next level and to learn from playing with and against the best at the highest level.
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The risk of throwing him in too soon is the risk of an early bad series causing potentially longer term damage to confidence.

They would want him to finish one full season of domestic cricket.


Average of 115 after 16 matches though, he is just ridiculously good for this level.
 
Aman said:
2 Kohlis :danish



You should try to blood him in before the WC tbh.
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Never happening, there seems to be a structure in place since kumble and dravid came in to blood in players in ranji and india A tours before being allowed to get a senior selection.
 
This is a ridiculously one sided game at the moment. Less than 100 to win and 9 wickets in hand with asking rate of around 3 runs per over
 
AMSS said:
No middle ground with some forummers here. Either a player is already 'ready for highest level' or useless with no hope of evolving. Get a grip all of you.
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This. Similar things were said about Vjay Zol and Unmukt Chand .None of them transitioned well yet.
 
Sin Nombre said:
The risk of throwing him in too soon is the risk of an early bad series causing potentially longer term damage to confidence.

They would want him to finish one full season of domestic cricket.


Average of 115 after 16 matches though, he is just ridiculously good for this level.
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He is not some fragile little bunny. It's quite patronizing and stupid view to keep players out when they are good enough. He will play full IPL. On the strength of his performances there, selectors will fast-track him.

This is not the kind of player who should be wasting his time playing Ranji cricket.
 
Now the real game begins, can kalra stay throughout the innings and guide india home
 
Oligochaetes said:
Lets see how Gill handles sledging.
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He is a punjabi munda from the 'pind'. Not sure you would want to sledge one. Yuvi ,Bhajji are some examples.Indian cricketers are no longer the upper class, convent educated sissies. They come from small towns and rural hinterlands where life is tougher and language is rougher. They fight fire with Napalm.
 
Manjot kalra looks a good find . If his foot work is worked upon then he can make it big. Such a sweet elegant timer
 
India produce some exceptional talents in U-19 cricket but it seems that their conversion rate has not been good as far as translating it to international level. Infact, forget India. Most U-19 talents go missing after the world cup. This just goes to show that there is a considerable gap between age group level and the top level.

At U-19 level bowling low 130s, lanky figures, spinners bowling slow and short stuff, batsman with shady technique but good hand-eye-coordination take charge.

I think some key factors is work ethic, maturity, physical development which are very crucial between the age of 19-23. Infact, this is the age where players really develop into top players - say Kohli, Shakib, Rabada, 3 U-19 stalwarts who became top players between the same period.
 
India U-19 and BD U-19 were hot favourites last time. Everyone was expecting a BD-India final last time, with India likely to win it.

But both teams were unfortunate to lose the toss on both occassions to WI and face the early swing on both occassions leading to their downfall. Not taking credit away from WI, they had some tall matured fast bowlers bowling 140s, something kids from neither BD or India had really faced at U-19 level.
 
This game is done. The World Cup is in India;s kitty. Everyone is just waiting for Kalra's 100.
 
Kalra looks like another hack devoid of footwork. A little like shikhar dhawan. Kind of A hack that Pakistan could do with.
 
Executioner said:
India produce some exceptional talents in U-19 cricket but it seems that their conversion rate has not been good as far as translating it to international level. Infact, forget India. Most U-19 talents go missing after the world cup. This just goes to show that there is a considerable gap between age group level and the top level.

At U-19 level bowling low 130s, lanky figures, spinners bowling slow and short stuff, batsman with shady technique but good hand-eye-coordination take charge.

I think some key factors is work ethic, maturity, physical development which are very crucial between the age of 19-23. Infact, this is the age where players really develop into top players - say Kohli, Shakib, Rabada, 3 U-19 stalwarts who became top players between the same period.
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There is place for around 7-8 batsmen/bowlers in a squad and the average playing span must be around 8-10 years while there are around 5 U19 World Cups in that time. So, obviously not every good player from the U-19 team is going to make it, even if he does well.
 
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Pope has been taken to the cleaners but i see potential in him as a leggie. He has got a bit of a dip in his bowling which is rare these days.
 
Abhilash93 said:
There is place for around 7-8 batsmen/bowlers in a squad and the average playing span must be around 8-10 years while there are around 5 U19 World Cups in that time. So, obviously not every good player from the U-19 team is going to make it, even if he does well.
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India has surplus of talents. We have Ashwin/Jadeja then Kuldeep/Chahal. Then a back up Axar. Then we have all kind of off spinning all rounders. Too bad only 11 players can play :)
 
Not even a semblance of a contest. India vastly superior in skill, execution, and overall mental approach. Thankfully, Australia has a robust system in place that would hone these players and others under their watch to compete with the best at the highest level. Ditto with South Africans and England.
 
Best side is winning, India have demolished every side in this cup. This win is as impressive as the the rout of Pakistan.
 
Aman said:
Letting your bias cloud your judgement. India's best is extremely one dimensional and simply bangs it in back of length. He can pick up wickets with his pace against U19 batsmen and average batsmen, but against international standard batsmen the pace is not going to be an issue. This is why he has not gone for many runs (banging it in back of a length, it's difficult to get away) and has taken wickets through bad shots or off players who are unable to play 140kph bowling.
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You are not respecting performance, but that of course is your choice.

These are the best bowlers in their age group, just one level below the international level. That is a very positive sign.
 
Top three batsmen might be better than many of the Pakistan's senior team to be honest.
 
Aman said:
How on earth did Pakistan get rolled by these bowlers?

All of them look so average and have a LONG LONG way to go to even make the India A squad.
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if they are avg, then other teams bowlers are below avg, don't go by this match, they have been damn good, and were rightfully praised by everyone, this pitch is dead as dodo, even then they have been able to maintain pressure, nagarkoti and mavi destroyed England in their own backyard 5-0 ,it's not just pace both swings the ball and have ability to reverse it as well plus they are exceptional fielders and koti is a very handy bat as well.
 
And if India's best is one dimensional as someone claims, then being one dimensional is better than being no dimensional at all.
 
India are the second best cricketing nation behind Australia.

They have a long way to go to catch Aus, you could argue they're on par with the WI but I expect them to win one of the next 2 WCs if not both.
 
Napa said:
You are not respecting performance, but that of course is your choice.

These are the best bowlers in their age group, just one level below the international level. That is a very positive sign.
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No point explaining to him, his own team got decimated by England, let the sour grapes continue.
 
Tough day for the Aussies.

Lose a WC and are going to receive a phainty from us :akhtar
 
100

Memorable Innings!! Will be remembered by his friends and family for the rest of his life. What a truly special occassion

:113:
 
Aman said:
India are the second best cricketing nation behind Australia.

They have a long way to go to catch Aus, you could argue they're on par with the WI but I expect them to win one of the next 2 WCs if not both.
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How come? W/L ratios and other stats put Pakistan ahead of India. Ofcourse last 10-12 years is a different story but overall its not the case.
 
best under 19 team ever , no team comes close, they have demolished every team in their way.
 
Abhilash93 said:
There is place for around 7-8 batsmen/bowlers in a squad and the average playing span must be around 8-10 years while there are around 5 U19 World Cups in that time. So, obviously not every good player from the U-19 team is going to make it, even if he does well.
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You are right

I am just surprised many of these dont even succeed in domestic level either, leave alone international cricket.
 
jadaja said:
best under 19 team ever , no team comes close, they have demolished every team in their way.
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I agree.

And that made it a very bad world cup in terms of contests. What a one sided tournament.
 
cricketjoshila said:
You are too wise for these kind of posts.
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India has absolutely demolished every side. This was not even a contest. In terms of competition and thrillers, as fans we got to see nothing. That is why i think this was not a kind of tournament i would want to watch.

This Indian team is surely the best u19 team ever fielded.
 
I don't follow U-19 much: can we hope to get the following players from that squad in the coming years? :

1) Opening Batsman
2) A solid #3
3) A good keeper
4) A spinner
5) A replacement for that Pandya spot - this I'm not hopeful about though.
 
this team is like 2003 australian team, no team is even close to their level.
 
A very clinical finish from India. Im impressed by the wicketkeeper,Gill and Porel. I think they can make it in international cricket and will be successful. The others look impressive but not sure they can make it in international cricket really. The way I see it

India

1. Gill
2. Desai
3. Porel

PAK

1.Shaheen
2.Arshad
3.Musa

Saffers

Coetzee

OZ

Pope


Can't think of anyone else right now but these are likely to have international careers methinks.
 
Napa said:
You are not respecting performance, but that of course is your choice.

These are the best bowlers in their age group, just one level below the international level. That is a very positive sign.
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No U19 is not 1 level below international cricket, its at least 2-3 levels below senior international cricket.

Success in u19 is no guarantee that one will become successful at the first class level. With India's first class structure improving, our domestic cricket is going to get better. A season in domestic is the least that is required from these guys before being drafted in to India side.

At most, some of the exceptional talents could be called into the India A side now.
 
Dravid: It's embarrassing at times being in the limelight like this because... actually it's the support staff that puts in the most effort and therefore they deserve the accolades too... and rightly so too... it's been such a great experience being a part of "their team".
 
Varun said:
What became of Unmukt Chand??
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Exceptions are always there. Unmukt seems to have become a punching bag now. Is he the only hyped player to not live up to expectations?

Umar Akmal also failed. Dont tell me he is a Pakistani because he is genuinely talented but mentally is a potato.
 
Varun said:
What became of Unmukt Chand??
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Not everyone who does well in 10th does well in 12th :) Bit like that. To get to top level you need to work hard. If you really work hard you will be rewarded eventually. Gill by all accounts is one of the most dedicated cricketer one can hope to see. SO i expect him to floursh.
 
Madplayer said:
How come? W/L ratios and other stats put Pakistan ahead of India. Ofcourse last 10-12 years is a different story but overall its not the case.
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In ODIs, India is ahead of Pakistan, due to an extra WC and a better W/L record against the top 8 nations. Pakistan does trump India on 1:1 W/L but India has been better in WCs.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...rby=win_loss_ratio;template=results;type=team

In Tests Pakistan is still ahead IMO, but the gap is closing. India might get ahead in the next couple of years.
 
Sidilicious said:
In ODIs, India is ahead of Pakistan, due to an extra WC and a better W/L record against the top 8 nations. Pakistan does trump India on 1:1 W/L but India has been better in WCs.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...rby=win_loss_ratio;template=results;type=team

In Tests Pakistan is still ahead IMO, but the gap is closing. India might get ahead in the next couple of years.
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In ODIs its a miniscule gap. You have removed zimbabwe , a good ODI side in 90s. I wonder what their inclusion does to the w/l ratio. And overall win loss ratio also favours Pakistan. So at the most we can say its even stevens.
 
Madplayer said:
How come? W/L ratios and other stats put Pakistan ahead of India. Ofcourse last 10-12 years is a different story but overall its not the case.
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Pakistan have been a better test and t20 side historically . India have been the better ODI side though. Better overall W/L ratio against top teams and one more world cup as well.
 
Varun said:
I don't follow U-19 much: can we hope to get the following players from that squad in the coming years? :


5) A replacement for that Pandya spot - this I'm not hopeful about though.
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Why do some people keep wanting to replace Pandya when he not only has just begun his career, but is also starting to look like the best all rounder we've had since Kapil Dev?
 
Sidilicious said:
No U19 is not 1 level below international cricket, its at least 2-3 levels below senior international cricket.

Success in u19 is no guarantee that one will become successful at the first class level. With India's first class structure improving, our domestic cricket is going to get better. A season in domestic is the least that is required from these guys before being drafted in to India side.

At most, some of the exceptional talents could be called into the India A side now.
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yup, but the thing is a lot of these guy's have been part of a sides as well as domestic sides barring few.
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Pakistan have been a better test and t20 side historically . India have been the better ODI side though. Better overall W/L ratio against top teams and one more world cup as well.
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Pakistan was a very good ODI side in the 90s and way ahead of India at that time
 
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gani999 said:
Why do some people keep wanting to replace Pandya when he not only has just begun his career, but is also starting to look like the best all rounder we've had since Kapil Dev?
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He's hardly any all-rounder. Just a T20 hack who got lucky.

Should be nowhere near the test team.
 
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