What's new

India v Pakistan | Semi-Final | U19 World Cup | Potchefstroom | 4th Feb, 2020 | India innings

MenInG

MenInG

PakPassion Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Runs
217,977
India U19 1st Innings to come next

India Under 19s - To Bat

Pakistan Under 19s - 172
 
I went to get some stuff from Tesco and by the time i came back we were all out.

Disappointing

Will be a miracle if we win this
 
Last 5 batsmen score 10 all together. How can you expect a win when our tail is that bad?
 
IAJ said:
Easy there champ! Let's wait for the second half as well.
Click to expand...

I was just replying to a question.

Yes, Pakistan has good bowlers. 173 may be defended, good luck.
 
Not sure why many Pakistani posters are taking dig at young players instead of support them.
They are just kids and learning, this is just U19 wc.
relax
 
50/5 and the game is on
Let's see

I thought we'd easily score 220.
Our batting is not bad at all.
 
Excited to watch youngsters from both sides.. Pakistan should have batted atleast 50overs and they could have got a competitive score
25 overs of dot balls out of 43 is not good
 
Shameless ijaz takes the blame for this. Playing that rubbish fahad munir over and over again and batting the rest of them out of position.
 
Well done to Haider and Rohail for playing sensible knocks , others buckled under pressure. Qasim was unlucky.
 
King_Kohli said:
Not sure why many Pakistani posters are taking dig at young players instead of support them.
They are just kids and learning, this is just U19 wc.
relax
Click to expand...

If our players grow up with this type of relax attitude than these players when they play World Cup 2023-2027 they will do the same.
A baby tiger still ferocious that a a sheep/goat.
 
Pakistan's immediate target should be 3/30 after 10 overs. Then choke them with some consistent bowling. I know many have lost hope but we can win this if play to a plan. It's just u19 and kids can wilt under pressure! Indian batting is also not as good as its bowling anyway.
 
Ijaz Ahmed is stuck in 90s

Not everytime a batsman would score 80 runs from 50 balls.
 
Said it before, too much hype for an U19 game. Rohail's dross is a testament to that. He is a better player than this.
 
So our players whether they are U19 or senior same problem with the pressure game. Our domestic setup should be more competitive, fitness oriented and selection should be based on merit wise.
 
King_Kohli said:
Not sure why many Pakistani posters are taking dig at young players instead of support them.
They are just kids and learning, this is just U19 wc.
relax
Click to expand...

Bro it’s the mindset that has been created by certain influential posters on this forum. Venting their frustrations out on Kids.

Seems like Pakistani culture is a very unforgiving one for the youth
 
shah_1 said:
Ijaz Ahmed is stuck in 90s

Not everytime a batsman would score 80 runs from 50 balls.
Click to expand...

Boss, relax! These are ICC doctored pitches and you saw what happened in the 50 over men’s World Cup. Looks like ICC are trying to bring back the balance in bat and ball. But it’s not over until India have won this
 
King_Kohli said:
Not sure why many Pakistani posters are taking dig at young players instead of support them.
They are just kids and learning, this is just U19 wc.
relax
Click to expand...

Its nothing new to see extreme reactions from many as its not the first time. Some of Pak fans go on game after game basis and whenever a poor game comes in for the team or any individual then everything is at fault and cricket is finished. Its just a sport and this is only the junior level.

Surely one should strive for improvement but self cursing rarely serves any purpose. Yes self realization and methodical planning does help but that also take bit of time to produce results.

India was a favourite of the tournument and pretty much every team of the tournament would have struggled against them.
 
Last edited:
King_Kohli said:
Not sure why many Pakistani posters are taking dig at young players instead of support them.
They are just kids and learning, this is just U19 wc.
relax
Click to expand...

+ 1 . There are lot of take away from these kids. They are future of cricket.
 
Titan24 said:
Its nothing new to see extreme reactions from many as its not the first time. Some of Pak fans go on game after game basis and whenever a poor game comes in for the team or any individual then everything is at fault and cricket is finished. Its just a sport and this is only the junior level.

Surely one should strive for improvement but self cursing rarely serves any purpose. Yes self realization and methodical planning does help but that also take bit of time to produce results.

India was a favourite of the tournument and pretty much every team of the tournament would have struggled against them.
Click to expand...

Yes lets pick fahad again and play batsmens who are miles better then him out of their position.
 
I would say we can still win this but the Pakistan kids seem very much under pressure. The only way things turn around at this point is an early wicket to restore confidence.
 
Like the kind of bowler Tahir is, we have quite a few tear away pacers but not many who can operate regularly in the area of uncertainty with bit of movement i.e Asif, Hazlewood, Mcgrath etc kind of bowler.
 
I think everyone predicted this outcome. Don't know why people are surprised?
 
Revolution said:
+ 1 . There are lot of take away from these kids. They are future of cricket.
Click to expand...

Apart from Babar Azam, tell me any world class talent in last 20 years of U19 cricket?

This is called a failed program
 
Khan12 said:
Yes lets pick fahad again and play batsmens who are miles better then him out of their position.
Click to expand...

According to some posters fans should not expect our team win a tournament or big matches. We should be relax as they are just kids whether they are U19 or senior.
 
Speeds or scorecard not showing for me on TV. Anyone else experiencing the same?
 
shah_1 said:
Apart from Babar Azam, tell me any world class talent in last 20 years of U19 cricket?

This is called a failed program
Click to expand...

What world class talent has been produced by departmental domestic cricket as well in last 19 years? Its the problem as a whole. Atleast U19 cricket is producing some players by picking them at junior level like Amir, Shaheen, Imam etc.
 
Last edited:
shah_1 said:
Apart from Babar Azam, tell me any world class talent in last 20 years of U19 cricket?

This is called a failed program
Click to expand...

Rabada,Kuldeep,Buttler,Stokes,Root,Rahul,Agarwal and many more. Cricket Boards have developed their talent very well, it's just that PCB has no development programs.
 
Last edited:
shah_1 said:
Apart from Babar Azam, tell me any world class talent in last 20 years of U19 cricket?

This is called a failed program
Click to expand...

Plenty hold promise and started off with impressive International debuts.

What's painful is that once they have been chewed and digested by the senior cricketing system, all these promising players either regress or dwell in consistent mediocrity! Imam, Shadab, Fakhar, Hasan Ali, Sharjeel, Yasir, Junaid, Umar, Amir......one can go on.

Somehow the only thing that has been consistent among all these promising talents, is steady decline.
 
Lol some overrated trundlers operating here.
 
Pakistani youth is no match to confident , bold and aggressive Indian Counterparts.
 
Bowling is nothing special. Its 250+ pitch. Unless we have someone like Macgrath and Wasim in our team we cannot defend 172.
 
amir khan is playing with a hamstring injury. The management needs to be fired.
 
Lol Musa Khan was bowling 145 kph last WC and these trundlers operating at 130 kph
 
I think the female commentator is looking for an IPL gig. Nothing wrong with appreciating India but the bias is undeniable.
 
IAJ said:
Lol Musa Khan was bowling 145 kph last WC and these trundlers operating at 130 kph
Click to expand...

Our batting was minnow level in last WC but those bowlers were 1000000 times better
 
Frontrunner said:
Is he playing today? Name?
Click to expand...

The guy who is bowling is Amir Khan who was said to have clocked 147kph and was pretty quick in no televised group match. While going back to his mark he is clearly leaning towards one side which indicates something is wrong with his lower half.
 
shah_1 said:
Shouldn't a fit Muhammad Waseem play instead?
Click to expand...

Agreed, I am not sure what influenced such a decision. He is obviously rated really highly by the coaches but no point in playing someone based upon potential if he isnt 100%.
 
ExpressPacer said:
I think the female commentator is looking for an IPL gig. Nothing wrong with appreciating India but the bias is undeniable.
Click to expand...
She is stating truth tho.. even with one boundary scored ..indian batsmen are running well.. pak bowlers aren't trying to bounce out indian batsmen.... Where as earlier when pakistan was batting.. their batsmen hitted a flurry of boundaries.. but nvr rotated strike.. nd was uncomfortable against hostile short pitch bowling
 
EngrOmair said:
Rabada,Kuldeep,Buttler,Stokes,Root,Rahul,Agarwal and many more. Cricket Boards have developed their talent very well, it's just that PCB has no development programs.
Click to expand...

I think, he is talking about PAK only, which to an extent true. One reason is overall, PAK hasn’t produced that many top quality cricketer in last 20 years, and there are few players who didn’t play U19 WC - Mo Asif, Mo Amir (he missed 2008 WC for illness), Yasir Shah... But the main reason is, top U19 players didn’t move to next level - hardly any top star players from that back to back WC winning generation, while 2008 team has about 9 PAK caps eventually - none went to higher level and players like Umar, Shehzad, JK, Amin, Usman, Imad, Shan ... rather faded away. Top players from few WCs - Tariq Mahmood, Mansoor Amjad, Jamshed, Nasir Jamshed, Anwar Ali, Khalid Latif, Hammad, Sami, Gohar, Saud, a leggi from 2014, Adil, Zia..... and few more.


In global stage, U19 WC has given most of the greatest contemporary cricketers- Smith, Cummins, Warner, Josh, Kohli, Agarwal, Ishant, Root, Willsmson, Hetmyer, Pujara, Stokes, Anderson, Holder, Sharma, Dhawan, Jadeja, Southee, Hope, Rabada, Kock, Shakib, Tamim, Mushi, Angelo, Perera, Rashid, Mujeeb, Mitch, Clarke, Cook ....and many more.
 
shah_1 said:
Ijaz Ahmed mentioned in the last match. I don't know if he said hamstring but something about the injury
Click to expand...

ethan hunt said:
Ijaz ahmed himself confirmed it. He has been hobbling in the nets. Watch the training videos.
Click to expand...

Thanks.

Definitely shouldn't be playing if that is the case because he looks like a very good bowler. I love his flowing action.

Is the injury why he seems to be limping in his run up?
 
shah_1 said:
I'm talking about batting
Click to expand...
No, you’re not. You’re talking very explicitly about a failed system.

Give credit where it’s due. Our batsmen however need a better batting coach than Ijaz at the U19 level. I would like to see Ijaz working with U16s if I’m entirely honest. Ijaz has done a decent job at the U19 level (gave us Babar and the early Ahmed Shehzad, and now Huraira and Haider). But he seems to focus more on grooming talent than on temperament and professionalism. I’d like Younus Khan to take the reins on U19 instead who would be ideal for the job.
 
ExpressPacer said:
Thanks.

Definitely shouldn't be playing if that is the case because he looks like a very good bowler. I love his flowing action.

Is the injury why he seems to be limping in his run up?
Click to expand...

Yes he is also struggling a bit walking towards his run up. Definitely has something to work with. Hopefully he works hard on his fitness before PSL.
 
Slow and steady start. Pakistan can get themselves into this with a couple of quick wickets.
 
Definitely not a very good wicket but Pak should have batted much better.
 
Great watching this; tuk tuk batting v trundling bowling
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
No, you’re not. You’re talking very explicitly about a failed system.

Give credit where it’s due. Our batsmen however need a better batting coach than Ijaz at the U19 level. I would like to see Ijaz working with U16s if I’m entirely honest. Ijaz has done a decent job at the U19 level (gave us Babar and the early Ahmed Shehzad, and now Huraira and Haider). But he seems to focus more on grooming talent than on temperament and professionalism. I’d like Younus Khan to take the reins on U19 instead who would be ideal for the job.
Click to expand...

Spotting a fast bowler is pretty easy if you have raw talent

Bowl quick in the nets, and you are idenitfed. There is bits of tweaking here and there for a fast bowler. It takes a quality system to develop a batsman
 
Pak players faces are already looking plain.. india batting sensibly here.. not to give early wicket..
 
First time I am seeing Amir Khan bowling live and heard he was inconsistent, looks like him being not fully fit has limited him to a certain game plan as he has been regularly hitting good lengths.
 
Titan24 said:
First time I am seeing Amir Khan bowling live and heard he was inconsistent, looks like him being not fully fit has limited him to a certain game plan as he has been regularly hitting good lengths.
Click to expand...

clearly he is not comfortable.
 
before WC Sheraz khan and Akhtar shah were strike bowlers and when salim jaffer took from basit Ali we have new pacers what happened to earlier bowlers who looked good in Sri Lanka series
 
There is not only talent issue but many factors which cause our team failing badly whether U19 or senior.

1. Wrong player selection in different format
2. Players selected over connection
3. Fitness issue
4. Lack of maturity
5. Lack of ability to play according to the situation.
6. Tailenders cannot even score 10-15 runs each or 40 runs by last 5 batsmen
7. Play too defensive and not rotate strike
8. Poor coaching staff
9. Too much hype by media cause too much pressure
10. One track mind set etc.11. Respecting opposition too much
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

FearlessRoar
Pakistan U19 (314/3) defeat UAE U19 (245/8) by 69 runs to secure their spot in the semi-finals of ACC U19 Asia Cup 2024
Replies
22
Views
899
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
Bangladesh U19 (120/3) beat Pakistan U19 (116) by 7 wickets in the 1st semi-final of the ACC U19 Asia Cup 2024
2 3
Replies
187
Views
4K
KingLiton
KingLiton
FearlessRoar
Bangladesh U19 (198) beat India U19 (139) by 59 runs in the final to defend their title and claim the ACC U19 Asia Cup 2024 trophy
2
Replies
140
Views
4K
MenInG
MenInG
BouncerGuy
Pakistan U19 (243/6) defeat Japan U19 (63) by 180 runs in match 11 of the ACC U19 Asia Cup 2024
Replies
36
Views
964
Muhammad Saad
M
BouncerGuy
ICC U19 Women’s T20 World Cup (2025) - [From January 18 to February 02]
Replies
1
Views
180
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
Back
Top