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India v Sri Lanka | 2nd ODI | Nov 6, 2014 | Ahmedabad

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[MENTION=45152]Saurav[/MENTION] - See this Axar guy keeps outperforming others with ease.

Normally bench bowlers don't get so much chances when the main bowlers come in.

Axar getting so many chances means its serious business.

Yes he has to do more to prove himself but as of now, he simply is outbowling everyone else without breaking a sweat.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
[MENTION=45152]Saurav[/MENTION] - See this Axar guy keeps outperforming others with ease.

Normally bench bowlers don't get so much chances when the main bowlers come in.

Axar getting so many chances means its serious business.

Yes he has to do more to prove himself but as of now, he simply is outbowling everyone else without breaking a sweat.
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yeah hes doing well,but as much as we like,these ODIs vs WI and SL dont mean much.The real thing is tri series in Aus.

I see two ways Axar can replace Jadeja

1.Axar performs like this in Aus AND Jaddu performs poorly

2.Axar performs brilliantly in Aus(like highest wicket taker and contribution with bat)

Also I think they are not averse to both playing.Ashwin can miss out with Raina bowling offspin if needed
 
Saurav said:
yeah hes doing well,but as much as we like,these ODIs vs WI and SL dont mean much.The real thing is tri series in Aus.

I see two ways Axar can replace Jadeja

1.Axar performs like this in Aus AND Jaddu performs poorly

2.Axar performs brilliantly in Aus(like highest wicket taker and contribution with bat)

Also I think they are not averse to both playing.Ashwin can miss out with Raina bowling offspin if needed
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That is your assumption. 2 lefties won't happen unless both outbowl the rest in a big way.
 
DarkNight said:
Indian Crowd is the most pathetic crowd in world cricket always making so much noise, can't even focus on cricket, camera skipping every ball to show their ugly faces!
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it's a stadium,not a library
atleast they have the pleasure of attending matches at home :misbah
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
That is your assumption. 2 lefties won't happen unless both outbowl the rest in a big way.
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Not an assumption,they did this v WI and today too.They could have easily brought in Mishra.

Ashwin's form isnt helping too.Need to try Karn or Mishra in place of him
 
Saurav said:
Not an assumption,they did this v WI and today too.They could have easily brought in Mishra.

Ashwin's form isnt helping too.Need to try Karn or Mishra in place of him
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Wi and SL were tests. You yourself said it and we all know it.

3 spinners are never a serious thing cos in Aus we would never play that.

2 lefties opens up a big weakness against left handers.

Jaddu and Ashwin are playing cos they are the main spinners. Axar is playing cos he is making a strong case.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Wi and SL were tests. You yourself said it and we all know it.

3 spinners are never a serious thing cos in Aus we would never play that.

2 lefties opens up a big weakness against left handers.

Jaddu and Ashwin are playing cos they are the main spinners. Axar is playing cos he is making a strong case.
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I didnt mean three spinners in Australia.obviously that wont happen.

But they have played 2 SLA's when they could easily play Mishra.that tells me they are trying it.

Ideally you want variety,but if both perform then its an option.Atleast against teams with lots of RHBs.
 
Saurav said:
I didnt mean three spinners in Australia.obviously that wont happen.

But they have played 2 SLA's when they could easily play Mishra.that tells me they are trying it.

Ideally you want variety,but if both perform then its an option.Atleast against teams with lots of RHBs.
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They playing 2 SLAs just because Ashwin and Jaddu are the main ones and Axar is the one staking a serious contention.

2010-2011, for certain matches, we used to play Bhajji and Ashwin along with another spinner.

Axar is higher in the pecking order compared to Karn and Mishra. Hence he is playing. if it were Karn, he would have replaced Axar.
 
Sharma getting a phainty, by the way do you guys agree SL have biggest mantle block of cricket history when they play Vs india, this years Asia cup final and T20 final wins are exception not norm, atleast when it come to bilateral series SL never perform well even though their record vs all other teams is better than Vs india so no doubt about their ability of winning but i think it just a mantle thing. Why is it?
 
Zeshan547 said:
Sharma getting a phainty, by the way do you guys agree SL have biggest mantle block of cricket history when they play Vs india, this years Asia cup final and T20 final wins are exception not norm, atleast when it come to bilateral series SL never perform well even though their record vs all other teams is better than Vs india so no doubt about their ability of winning but i think it just a mantle thing. Why is it?
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Sharma has bowled well this game overall.

And I think that mental block is mainly because India Vs Sri Lanka is more than just a cricket match for Lankans but doesnt mean much for us somehow. I always see emotions very charged in their end. Maybe this is why.
 
Noobosauras said:
Sharma has bowled well this game overall.

And I think that mental block is mainly because India Vs Sri Lanka is more than just a cricket match for Lankans but doesnt mean much for us somehow. I always see emotions very charged in their end. Maybe this is why.
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this perception of yours is more applicable to Pak team vs india, because they have such history, but can't understand why Sri lankan's feel so ?
 
I started seeing the match just now.

Ashwin looked pretty decent in that over. Reminded me of the 2010 Ashwin.

Got owned in the first over from the scorecard. Even the wicket wasn't anything special though.
 
Angelo Mathews is such a class player, you can clearly see the difference between him and many of the other lankans out there.
 
Bowled him. They are not picking his quicker ones.
 
Zeshan547 said:
this perception of yours is more applicable to Pak team vs india, because they have such history, but can't understand why Sri lankan's feel so ?
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It's a surprise actually. Sri Lanka considers India as its main rival (well, they're our dear neighbors too!) but India doesn't..
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Axar is simply outbowling the rest.

Too easy.
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Think it has more to do with that the Lankans haven't played him much. After some matches people will be aware of his quick arm ball.

But bowling well nevertheless so not taking anything away from him.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Axar is simply outbowling the rest.

Too easy.
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yeah fantastic stuff.

though I'm dissapointed by both Ashwin and Jaddu too.They need to perform better being senior bowlers

Karn or Mishra should be tried.Dont think we'd have two new spinners in WC but still should be tried.
 
IAJ said:
Think it has more to do with that the Lankans haven't played him much. After some matches people will be aware of his quick arm ball.

But bowling well nevertheless so not taking anything away from him.
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Its not just this game.

In IPL, Vs WI and now Vs SL.

Its a trend.
 
Saurav said:
yeah fantastic stuff.

though I'm dissapointed by both Ashwin and Jaddu too.They need to perform better being senior bowlers

Karn or Mishra should be tried.Dont think we'd have two new spinners in WC but still should be tried.
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To be honest, if you remove Ashwin's phainty 18 run first over, it was a pretty good performance.

30 runs in 8 overs bro.

Less than 4 runs per over.

His wicket though was a fluke.

This Ashwin's new action gives me hope. This is 2010 Ashwin if he can get back his accuracy. The new action allows him to bowl both normal and carroms with not much change in action.
 
IAJ said:
If that is the best you can come up with, I'll let the guy play in peace :)
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I said its a trend.

He can only perform based on what is put in front of him.

In IPL, virtually all major players tried to smash him and none succeeded.

Including Dhoni except for the final over in Semifinals when everything was done and dusted.

There is a reason why this guy is fast tracked to the national side.

And oh by the way, he bowled well in Australia recently where India A won the quadrandgular cup.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
To be honest, if you remove Ashwin's phainty 18 run first over, it was a pretty good performance.

30 runs in 8 overs bro.

Less than 4 runs per over.

His wicket though was a fluke.

This Ashwin's new action gives me hope. This is 2010 Ashwin if he can get back his accuracy. The new action allows him to bowl both normal and carroms with not much change in action.
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Same can be said about Jaddu.1 for 44 in 9 is good,specially since he bowled in end overs

but anyway both need to be more consistent
 
Again SL falling apart as usual, and again they will end up with below par total, i just don't get what's the point of wasting all these resources when we all know the result already, it's like replaying same movie again and again,
 
Saurav said:
Same can be said about Jaddu.1 for 44 in 9 is good,specially since he bowled in end overs

but anyway both need to be more consistent
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I agree.

I see overall trends as sometimes you cna bowl well and not have good stats and sometimes you can bowl average and end up with good stats.

Let's see based on more matches. Let the best spinners get the spots.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I said its a trend.

He can only perform based on what is put in front of him.

In IPL, virtually all major players tried to smash him and none succeeded.

Including Dhoni except for the final over in Semifinals when everything was done and dusted.

There is a reason why this guy is fast tracked to the national side.

And oh by the way, he bowled well in Australia recently where India A won the quadrandgular cup.
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Most spinners who rely on their quick ball rather than spin tends to pick up wickets against people they face first time. He is a darter and wil be found out. Mathews are already playing him well.
He bowls like Jadeja but is probably taller and get's more bounce.

And to me his action looks dodgy, especially the quick balls and with those long sleeves you never know..
 
IAJ said:
Most spinners who rely on their quick ball rather than spin tends to pick up wickets against people they face first time. He is a darter and wil be found out. Mathews are already playing him well.
He bowls like Jadeja but is probably taller and get's more bounce.

And to me his action looks dodgy, especially the quick balls and with those long sleeves you never know..
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That is true. Patel is made for limited overs cricket TBH. Nobody considers him a test match prospect..

The thing about him is that he is very tough to hit and has great pace variations.. He can bat quite well too, in case you didn't know

Perfect ODI allrounder
 
IAJ said:
Most spinners who rely on their quick ball rather than spin tends to pick up wickets against people they face first time. He is a darter and wil be found out. Mathews are already playing him well.
He bowls like Jadeja but is probably taller and get's more bounce.

And to me his action looks dodgy, especially the quick balls and with those long sleeves you never know..
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I agree about what you said. Coincidentally I said the same just now in another thread and was accused of being biased towards Ashwin. :facepalm:

With that being said, Axar as of now, simply outbowling the rest by a mile.

Its not a bit. But a mile.

So he deserves chances.

Plus he is mentally strong too.

His action for me, isn't 100% clean. Most of the deliveries are fine but some are a little bit iffy.
 
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Matthews is what Akmal should strive to be. Similar start to careers but he built a brain which still is at a disconnect for Akmal. Great knock.
 
Gave them 50 runs too many but doesn't matter. We are winning this as long as we negotiate first 20 overs. There might be some swing in the evening with both new balls.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
[MENTION=45152]Saurav[/MENTION] - See this Axar guy keeps outperforming others with ease.

Normally bench bowlers don't get so much chances when the main bowlers come in.

Axar getting so many chances means its serious business.

Yes he has to do more to prove himself but as of now, he simply is outbowling everyone else without breaking a sweat.
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Axar is a top-class limited overs bowler, and he has every chance of being a playing member in the WC because he has terrific composure, bats very well in big situations and is electric in the field.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Gave them 50 runs too many but doesn't matter. We are winning this as long as we negotiate first 20 overs. There might be some swing in the evening with both new balls.
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Ball is not coming on according to Ashwin and this is historically a batting team ground. This could be a close one, but all Indian chases in recent memory have either been absolute canters, or have failed (most often miserably).
 
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