India vs England: Who wins in a batting shoot out?

[LastManstanding]

I know most fans will say England, but in the last six odis played between these two teams, on some of the flattest wickets you will ever see, the record stands at 3-3.

No doubt English middle order is more destructive, but India's bowling is more diverse and can cause problem to opposition on even flat surfaces.

So, on a belter of a pitch, which team would you put your money on?

 

[JattMaula]

England.

India is quite reliant on top order to score big. English batting line up is long and they all play to a plan.

 

[big_gamer007]

England easily.

Indian middle order is not upto the mark..

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

England have the depth that India don't quite have. On the other hand, India's top order really is quite strong and can score big... However, their reliance on their top order can prove to be dangerous whenever they fail. Any team looking to beat India in WC should have set plan for their top three otherwise they stand no chance. I'd probably go with England though as they have the likes of Buttler and sometimes even Woakes or Curran to bail them out at the end (similar to that Buttler innings where they chased 230 or something with Buttler getting a hundred).

 

[DRsohail]

On deficult wicket it is India in flat its England.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

England is fair-weather, flat-pitch, and 'weak opposition bowling' batting team with the exception of Root and to a little extent Morgan.

It's not that their batsmen don't have the talent to play on difficult pitches, it's just that they don't have the mindset to do so. They just don't change their plan A and want to blast teams away.

 

[Sadozai]

I know most fans will say England, but in the last six odis played between these two teams, on some of the flattest wickets you will ever see, the record stands at 3-3.

No doubt English middle order is more destructive, but India's bowling is more diverse and can cause problem to opposition on even flat surfaces.

So, on a belter of a pitch, which team would you put your money on?

what it has to do with the batting shootout?

England's batting is better than India & India's bowling is better than England

 

[MP2011]

Till the time grandpas like Dhoni, Rayudu, and Karthik are there in Indian batting lineup, Eng to win by a country mile.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

England by far. 7/10 England should smash teams on flat belters.

 

[rhony]

Not up for debate. Eng's batting depth, their attitude, their collective ability is unprecedented. This is the best batting lineup in history in LOIs.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Not up for debate. Eng's batting depth, their attitude, their collective ability is unprecedented. This is the best batting lineup in history in LOIs.

In certain conditions yes. I still rate Gilly,hayden,Ponting,Martyn,Bevan,Symonds,lehmann as the greatest ODI batting lineup of all time.

 

[LastManstanding]

England by far. 7/10 England should smash teams on flat belters.

They did lose 1-2 in India.

 

[LastManstanding]

Not up for debate. Eng's batting depth, their attitude, their collective ability is unprecedented. This is the best batting lineup in history in LOIs.

But they are susceptible against quality spin even on flat belters.

 

[ads101]

England's. India's top 3 are better, but England has guys like Morgan, Butler, Stokes coming in after where India's current 4-7 simply can't compare to.

Having said that in a tournament I'd still back India to beat England on batting alone. Think India's top 3 will just carry them enough and more likely to perform in pressure conditions, that top 3 in tournaments over the last years have pretty much dominated every time.

Overall batting and bowling combined, India's the stronger ODI team too.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

They did lose 1-2 in India.

Yes they also lost in SA 3-2. Still the mot explosive side in ODI cricket. Their top 5 is gun.

 

[rhony]

But they are susceptible against quality spin even on flat belters.

That's based on a few instances. They did play Indian spinners well in the last 2 ODIs in Eng including Kuldeep.

 

[rhony]

In certain conditions yes. I still rate Gilly,hayden,Ponting,Martyn,Bevan,Symonds,lehmann as the greatest ODI batting lineup of all time.

During those times, yes. If they all played in T20 era, they probably would have been even more dangerous. Considering the pitches, circumstances now, this is the most aggressive and relentless lineup in history that can score or chase 350 more often than not. That is 7 rpo and crazy

 

[jnaveen1980]

It is not even a question. India is sending the weakest batting line up to a world cup in their world cup history.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

England! - India's batting is a lottery after positions 1-3, England's is much more consistent.

 

[Abdullah]

You CANNOT look at this without looking at respective bowling attacks

 

[Abdullah]

England just collapsed awfully last game.
Can't believe people are thinking they are hot hot favourites for world cup. U do not want to be chasing 320+ in a knockout game ,it doesn matter how good ur batting is

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

It is not even a question. India is sending the weakest batting line up to a world cup in their world cup history.

Now you are exaggerating.

 

[Smbhayi]

India will win 7 out of 10 times.. batting depth is glitch if they've no use, checks yesterday match, England just have to score 60 runs in 10 overs with 5 wickets left and they lose by 26 runs.. seriously they way way way overrated...

 

[Amjid Javed]

On a pancake or a road wicket, which ever of these two sides is chasing is going to win the game.

The way both teams like to bat you can see the preference will always been to chase.

 

[pks85333]

I know most fans will say England, but in the last six odis played between these two teams, on some of the flattest wickets you will ever see, the record stands at 3-3.

No doubt English middle order is more destructive, but India's bowling is more diverse and can cause problem to opposition on even flat surfaces.

So, on a belter of a pitch, which team would you put your money on?

 

[barah_admi]

I know most fans will say England, but in the last six odis played between these two teams, on some of the flattest wickets you will ever see, the record stands at 3-3.

No doubt English middle order is more destructive, but India's bowling is more diverse and can cause problem to opposition on even flat surfaces.

So, on a belter of a pitch, which team would you put your money on?

Well ENgland won the last series, did so quite convincingly so yes, England.

Plus I don't think any of India's team, apart from Kohli get into England's batting line up on England's best day.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Now you are exaggerating.

Prove me wrong. India always had decent batting going into world cup. Tell me which world cup line up of INdia is worse than this. Leave aside 1975 world cup squad.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Prove me wrong. India always had decent batting going into world cup. Tell me which world cup line up of INdia is worse than this. Leave aside 1975 world cup squad.

I'll prefer this batting unit over wc 1996,1983,1987,2015,1992,1979.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I'll prefer this batting unit over wc 1996,1983,1987,2015,1992,1979.

Take out top 3 we are done here. not with those units. They had decent depth with TEndulkar coming down the order alongwith Kapil Dev for the best part. In 1983 we had all the XI players who could bat.

 

[CricFan2012]

I know most fans will say England, but in the last six odis played between these two teams, on some of the flattest wickets you will ever see, the record stands at 3-3.

No doubt English middle order is more destructive, but India's bowling is more diverse and can cause problem to opposition on even flat surfaces.

So, on a belter of a pitch, which team would you put your money on?

Wasn't Bumrah not playing in one of these series back in 2018?

Bumrah is a key player who will always have a great economy rate and pick up some wickets.

I expect India to win on most days against England.

 

[The Viper]

England as barring the top three, they have a better batting lineup.

 

[Hasan123]

England have riddicoulous depth.

 

[Sachin136]

It depends on how the Indian top 3 do. If Rohit gets going, not even Gayle is as destructive as him.

 

[Ab Fan]

In Semis or finals, I will have a bet on India to win over England.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

England and not even close. India's middle order is terrible, just get Dhawan/Rohit out cheaply and they will struggle to get to 250. England can reliably score 330+ every other match. India needs a special from Rohit/Kohli to score above 300.

 

[LastManstanding]

Yes they also lost in SA 3-2. Still the mot explosive side in ODI cricket. Their top 5 is gun.

Series in india was played on the flattest wickets you'd ever see where 350 was chased, and India did triumph over that famed batting line up. Their batting line up is indeed explosive, but any half decent bowling line up would fancy their chances against them.

 

[Robert]

I know most fans will say England, but in the last six odis played between these two teams, on some of the flattest wickets you will ever see, the record stands at 3-3.

No doubt English middle order is more destructive, but India's bowling is more diverse and can cause problem to opposition on even flat surfaces.

So, on a belter of a pitch, which team would you put your money on?

Every five or so games England have a collective meltdown. If they stop hitting fours and sixes they get bored, lose concentration and collapse. This is why Rooooooooooooooooot is so important as he can keep the scoreboard going without the big shots. It is also why India will win the WC and England won’t get to the Final.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Series in india was played on the flattest wickets you'd ever see where 350 was chased, and India did triumph over that famed batting line up. Their batting line up is indeed explosive, but any half decent bowling line up would fancy their chances against them.

They have gone to another level now with bairstow opening.

 

[Bhaijaan]

England’s batting too strong

 

[bujhee kom]

On a flat deck - England.
Else - India.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

This England team would have done well on the Aussie WC 2015 pattas.

Modern day hacks these English and Aussies.

As long as pitches are hopeless pattas, they will rule the roost.

Any sporting pitch and you will see them struggle against good quality bowling.

And then people wonder why fans are losing interest in ODIs.

 

[jagatk]

On a flat deck - England.
Else - India.

The flat deck result depends on if they bat first, if they are chasing I wouldn't bet against India. English have time and again shown they can't handle pressure well and we have a much better bowling attack.