India vs West Indies | 1st Test | Kolkata | 6-10th November

[Moosa]

Can you back that up? Because i'm pretty sure we beat Australia in England and England in England something you can always dream about

No I m talking about genuine series. Not the ones that were fixed

 

[Bilal7]

India have all the money, the most powerful board, are going through their best period, have so many matches at home and have fanatical fans yet are not as good as Pakistan in tests. Sad.

 

[Justcrazy]

120 / 5

 

[Bilal7]

No I m talking about genuine series. Not the ones that were fixed

So you're definitely not talking about the IPL. Whats up with Sreesanth these days?

 

[battler]

Pakistani's getting jealous and trolling indians here because they know that their tailenders (aka batsmen) would have been out for less than 100 on this pitch.
What an insecure bunch!

 

[Bilal7]

That is all from me. Looking forward to India being put in their place. Cheers.

Sorry if I've hurt any genuine Indian fans with the banter, was mostly aimed at the trolls.

 

[Moosa]

So you're definitely not talking about the IPL. Whats up with Sreesanth these days?

Hahaha...lets face it, since you cannot win by debate you are getting personal.
Ok for your happiness Pak is a better side than India.

But

ahahahahahahahahahahahaha )

 

[Justcrazy]

India will win this , mark my words

 

[Robbie]

Kapil dev saying "bohot dino ke bad koi acchha off spinnes dekhne ko mila hai"

doesnt consider ajmal as decent off spinner.

 

[battler]

India have all the money, the most powerful board, are going through their best period, have so many matches at home and have fanatical fans yet are not as good as Pakistan in tests. Sad.

Not as good as pakistan in tests??
Delusions of granduer lol

 

[mithun_minhas]

And cows will fly. They'll be lucky to get to 200. So many edges haven't hit the stumps.

Shillingford looks great. Man has all the variations and he is tall and getting great bounce.

I wont call getting to 200 as lucky because we still have ROhit/MSD and Ashwin.

Bhuvi can also bat and has played some good innings in domestic on these surfaces.

I think India will score around 220.

 

[akheR]

Didn't watch the match but is Shillingford as good as his figures suggest ?
Received some tips from too last month or so

 

[coca-cola]

No I m talking about genuine series. Not the ones that were fixed

Wait, so Pakistan fixed the game but ended up winning? Do you see the complete lack of logic you are using here? Probably not, you seem to lack the mental adequacy for rational though.

Hahaha...lets face it, since you cannot win by debate you are getting personal.
Ok for your happiness Pak is a better side than India.

But

ahahahahahahahahahahahaha )

Okay, so you can mention fixing but when Bilal does "it's getting personal". I would quit now if I were you, you've embarrassed yourself enough. You haven nothing constructive to say so why don't you just shut up?

 

[coca-cola]

Kapil dev saying "bohot dino ke bad koi acchha off spinnes dekhne ko mila hai"

doesnt consider ajmal as decent off spinner.

Or Swann who came to India and downed Indian batsmen which is no mean feat. I guess Kapil doesn't watch cricket too often.

 

[Saurav]

That is all from me. Looking forward to India being put in their place. Cheers.

Sorry if I've hurt any genuine Indian fans with the banter, was mostly aimed at the trolls.

apologies accepted

 

[jattafridi]

WI can't relax they need 5 wickets asap If they wanna win this match

 

[mithun_minhas]

Didn't watch the match but is Shillingford as good as his figures suggest ?
Received some tips from too last month or so

Watch the highlights. He has all the variations and he bowls a lot quicker through the air. His doosra troubled a few Indian batsmen. The pitch is already seeing some uneven bounce.

Brotha got 48 wickets in 10 matches. That is not luck.

 

[Kianig89]

Sachin made 10 missed it as i was too lazy to get out of bed

 

[Kianig89]

Shillingford's performance is no surprise i remember he bowled very well in his home series vs AUs n Zim

 

[Robbie]

I read somewhere that in last 5 years pakistan won only 1 test series. is that right?? Genuine question.

 

[Buffet]

Shillingford's performance is no surprise i remember he bowled very well in his home series vs AUs n Zim

He looks very good bowler to me. I was expecting him to do well here. Got some lucky decisions but bowled really well.

 

[Kianig89]

I read somewhere that in last 5 years pakistan won only 1 test series. is that right?? Genuine question.

Nope we won the series in NZ, ZIM adn in UAE vs SL in 2011 then in 2012 vs Bang, ENG

 

[Kianig89]

Meanwhile Bishan Bedi trolling on twitter about long long sleeve off spinners )

 

[OZGOD]

On another note, I just realized that Willow HD is available with my Verizon FIOS subscription. All this time I've been watching it on a crappy streaming video player.

And just as I discovered the Verizon Willow channel, it seems to have gone down

 

[Convict]

Is it just me or is Shillingford a chucker?

 

[mithun_minhas]

Meanwhile Bishan Bedi trolling on twitter about long long sleeve off spinners )

I have a feeling Shillingford chucks a little. That is what I thought when I saw him bowl for the first time.

 

[Robbie]

Nope we won the series in NZ, ZIM adn in UAE vs SL in 2011 then in 2012 vs Bang, ENG

That guy must be drunk then.

 

[Buffet]

Is it just me or is Shillingford a chucker?

Well, Habhajan, Ajmal and so many others chuck now a days so let's not go there. Some one posted earlier that Bedi has already started talking about full sleeve of this guy in his tweets. I can see slight chuck but not too much.

 

[coca-cola]

Is it just me or is Shillingford a chucker?

Define chucking?

 

[mithun_minhas]

Both Bhajji and Ojha are chuckers in my book.

 

[Robbie]

The thing that irks me about BCCI is their disapproval of DRS

 

[mithun_minhas]

Tino Best looks like LLCOOLJ

 

[Robbie]

Spinner having the cleanest action currently is swan

 

[coca-cola]

Both Bhajji and Ojha are chuckers in my book.

Strongly disagree. By this definition I think you are taking out a huge chunk of bowlers around the world. Bhajji and Ojha are both class bowlers, the former especially. Would not call them chuckers.

By this definition, really only Shane Warne, Saqlain and Swann to an extent from my life time are three really successful "non-chucking" spinners.

 

[Kianig89]

Dhoni n Rohit has stabilized it last i checked they were 80 odd for 5 but now 120/5 at lunch

 

[mithun_minhas]

Strongly disagree. By this definition I think you are taking out a huge chunk of bowlers around the world. Bhajji and Ojha are both class bowlers, the former especially. Would not call them chuckers.

By this definition, really only Shane Warne, Saqlain and Swann to an extent from my life time are three really successful "non-chucking" spinners.

Most spinners who bowl Doosra chuck these days. Very few are clean.

 

[Convict]

Strongly disagree. By this definition I think you are taking out a huge chunk of bowlers around the world. Bhajji and Ojha are both class bowlers, the former especially. Would not call them chuckers.

By this definition, really only Shane Warne, Saqlain and Swann to an extent from my life time are three really successful "non-chucking" spinners.

Bhajji and Ojha only chuck one delivery

 

[Justcrazy]

India doing well here , India likely to get a solid lead.

 

[Ims1]

Shillingford has bowled well but Tendulkar & kohli were not out .

 

[Justcrazy]

Sammy is useless in Test matches. Cannot get runs , and a part timer with ball.

 

[Moosa]

Most spinners who bowl Doosra chuck these days. Very few are clean.

Agree. Doosra should be banned.
There is no room for illegal action in cricket.

 

[Ims1]

Can we get to around 280 ?

 

[Justcrazy]

India trail by 103 runs with 5 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

 

[Justcrazy]

Can we get to around 280 ?

easily !!

India bat real deep.

 

[mithun_minhas]

Can we get to around 280 ?

250 would be great.

One of these need to score a century from here to get lead.

 

[Ims1]

easily !!

India bat real deep.

not really though bhuvi & ashwin can bat a bit .

 

[Robbie]

Thank you sammy

 

[Ims1]

sammy is really mediocre . time to try samuels .

 

[Justcrazy]

Dhoni again rising to the occasion, playing a captains innings.

 

[Justcrazy]

not really though bhuvi & ashwin can bat a bit .

wait and watch.

 

[Justcrazy]

The pitch is no mine field , India doing well.

 

[coca-cola]

Bhajji and Ojha only chuck one delivery

But it is chucking non the less? Shane S is the same then. He uses his "wrist" only for his doosra. If you look at his offie it's pretty clean.

 

[Robbie]

India trailing by 99 now

 

[Ims1]

Will this test go to day 5 ? 56 overs remain for the day .

 

[Convict]

But it is chucking non the less? Shane S is the same then. He uses his "wrist" only for his doosra. If you look at his offie it's pretty clean.

Yeah. They should all be banned from bowling that delivery.

 

[coca-cola]

Yeah. They should all be banned from bowling that delivery.

So based on this, no more:

Ojha
Bhajji
RP singh (hyperextension)
Ajmal
Kane Williamson
Shillingford
Vitori
C. Gayle
Hafeez even to a certain extent
Malik pre 2006
Samuels
Dhananjaya

and many more...

I agree with Nasser Hussain on this. If the ICC has parameters in place and players meet those parameters, it is unfair to deem them illegal or cheats. The ICC has biomechanics at their disposal and they use it to determine the legality of an action. If bowlers meet the standards then who are we to call someone a cheat?

 

[Justcrazy]

142 / 5

 

[Ims1]

146/5

 

[Justcrazy]

These batting beautifully here.

 

[Justcrazy]

"operating Shillinford in small spells would be more effective than bowling him continuously where they batsmen can start reading him after 4 or 5 overs."

 

[Ims1]

he is over bowled ....22 out of 50 overs . time to get back best & samuels .

 

[Justcrazy]

WI loosing the plot here.

 

[Justcrazy]

It would have been better if WI had played a spinner instead of Sammy.

 

[Ims1]

It would have been better if WI had played a spinner instead of Sammy.

he is the skipper

 

[Justcrazy]

Dhoni is a hard nut to crack

 

[Robbie]

india 150/5

 

[Justcrazy]

he is the skipper

so what ?

Skipper has to contribute also.

Sammy is a honest trier but not good enough at Test Level.

 

[Justcrazy]

India trail by 78 runs with 5 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

 

[Ims1]

so what ?

Skipper has to contribute also.

Sammy is a honest trier but not good enough at Test Level.

when was the last time you saw a non-playing skipper in a test match ?

 

[Premier Cricketer]

Sharma continuing from his ODI form, India will make 300 I feel.

 

[Robbie]

India need 300 runs to shut WI from this game.

 

[Moosa]

Ball changed...and wicket

Lol

 

[Premier Cricketer]

Why does Sammy bowl? Tino Best comes on and look a wicket, thats what real pacers can do.

 

[Moosa]

India will lose this match.

 

[Robbie]

Ball is reverse swinging

 

[coca-cola]

Ball changed...and wicket

Lol

Seems to be the pattern of the match. Shami kebab did the same thing.

 

[coca-cola]

LOL "Indian tail" ) Ashwin can come bat for us at number 3 any time he wants )

 

[Robbie]

Bonus runs

 

[Robbie]

India trail by 61 runs

 

[Moosa]

Chasing 200 4th innings will be a nightmare on this pitch.
But then when you have Sachin nothing impossible.