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India will likely remain number 1 for another 10 years!

India's dominance will be difficult to predict in the coming decade. However you could almost rephrase the question as 'Will other other nations close the consistency gap with India'.

I think that India have droves of talent and the infrastructure now to match it. However, like any empire, they're biggest enemy will be their own complacency. It happened to the England-Australia duopoly after the 60s and it will happen to India too. These sets of Indian players will get 'bored' of regularly beating opposition, one offs not withstanding and during this period, other nations will catch up. Whether it happens in this decade remains to be seen.

However this is also dependent on a few other factors. Ganguly and the BCCI remain dead set on claiming an even bigger portion of ICC revenue and that will carve into the allotments that the other non big three countries will get.

This will definitely affect a country like South Africa, who are already in financial difficulties, but due to Transformation etc as well will suffer further still, despite having been a top team in the last two decades.

Sri Lanka will also be affected, and thus will surely affect SL youngsters who want to take up the game.

West Indies will continue to punch above their weight, especially now that they have a sensible cricket board to back their talent. Their danger is losing athletes to other sports, especially football and track & field.

England will probably see greater success against India by the end of the decade especially as their own specialist 'The 100' competition takes off and cricket returns to terrestrial tv.

Australia will always be competitive.

I think Pakistan will be the most interesting case here. Because whilst India is a clear case of realised potential, Pakistan is a clear case of unrealized potential. InshAllah once cricket fully returns to the country, the security situation gers better everywhere including Baluchistan and the economy starts to grow InshAllah we will see more investment in cricket and a greater amount of professionalism.

India had certain key figures in the last two decades that brought them the success they got, to supplement their existing advantages of commercial strength and strong infrastructure. Ganguly got rid of India's inferiority complex at International level, Dhoni brought a calmness element and Kohli has cemented a fitness and extreme confidence culture in this team.

Similarly I feel that Babar's batting successes InshAllah will bring a greater batting culture to the Pakistan team, whilst our new domestic system will, InshAllah in a few years give us battle hardened cricketers and some proper leaders which the Pakistan team really lacks. Thus I expect Pakistan to start challenging India regularly in 3-4 years time as the best team with England even more so at the end of the decade
 
Ronaldo7 said:
What part of “same with India in this case” do you not understand? (Not talking about the Ind vs Pak test match)
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Then what about your OP saying how New Zealand losing the series when they should have won it. And then you say India were the deserving winners. Contradicting views.
 
Hitman said:
Then what about your OP saying how New Zealand losing the series when they should have won it. And then you say India were the deserving winners. Contradicting views.
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Firstly, they should have won the last three T20is. Look at Cricinfo’s tweet about the win predictor. But they didn’t that means they didn’t deserve it.

Secondly, I’ve answered this question to another user as well and i hate repeating myself so if you want to read the second part then scroll through page 1 and find it
 
Mamoon said:
It is a privilege to watch this GOAT Asian team.

Truly the best Test team in the world, and the best ODI/T20I side as well along with England.

India was always destined to be the strongest Asian side, and also stronger than all other teams and on par with the likes of Australia and England.

They have the largest cricket population in the world, the most prosperous Asian country among the cricket playing countries, a huge cricket crazy market etc.

It took a very long time for them to assert their dominance because of in the incompetence of BCCI, but once they got their act together around the late 90’s/early 2000’s, there is no stopping them now.

The gap between them and other sides (excluding the other big 2) will continue to widen.
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I agree with Mamoon on this. India have a huge cricket crazy market with the money behind it they will continue to grow.
 
Hitman said:
Then what about your OP saying how New Zealand losing the series when they should have won it. And then you say India were the deserving winners. Contradicting views.
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So...

Did NZ choke or not?
 
First India needs to remove superstar,senior, nepotism culture then only India will be no 1.
 
Titan24 said:
Gill and Shaw obviously have bright futures. Problem isnt that they will perform or not problem is replicating the previous standards which made India a top team.

Lets take example of Aussies of 2000s vs now. Australia is still a good cricket team but obviously nowhere near the level of 2000s as its hard to replicate someone like Hayden, Ghilchrist, Warne, Mcgrath etc generation after generation. Other than Smith and in future maybe Cummins there isnt any such level of performer in tests.

Coming to India; Kohli and Rohit are already ATGs in ODI format, replicating average of almost 60 as 1 down batsman, over 50 or so as an opener respectively with so many match winning efforts isnt an easy task. There is a reason someone is called an ATG and every generation consistently cant be of the same level. There are a lot of things involved in becoming an ATG and its just not potential.
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Shaw and Gill doesn't need to fit in to kohli or rohits shoes. They just need to be better than the rest of the teams counterpart. Going by under 19 performance, it is expected that they should be better. But then again, they may not be regarded as even great by standard set by kohli or Tendulkar (nor do they need to)
 
India may not be Australia of 2000s or WI of 70s but they are the most successful Asian cricket team in history. Pretty sure everyone unanimously agrees to it, including brother [MENTION=149383]Ronaldo7[/MENTION]
 
No not going to happen,
Once upon a time Australia was in similar position.
So some day someone will replace India as no one.
As an indian supporter i want someone to replace them, otherwise it will be boring.
 
May be if indian tram management select proper team based on talent , Ability & Performance rather than Lobby, Seniority etc
 
Itachi said:
Shaw and Gill doesn't need to fit in to kohli or rohits shoes. They just need to be better than the rest of the teams counterpart. Going by under 19 performance, it is expected that they should be better. But then again, they may not be regarded as even great by standard set by kohli or Tendulkar (nor do they need to)
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Again as the OP has given an absolute statement that India will remain number one, its not how it works. Other teams will also be having there next generation of cricketers as there is no guarantee than Shaw, Gill and others will be better than their counterparts in other teams. It is something which only time can tell.

Remaining number 1 for 10 years isnt as sure shot a thing that we have good youngsters so we will be able to remain number one.
 
Maybe
But they almost lost against windies in the odi series.

Nz also could have won this series if they didn't choke massively.

Bowling will remain the best under bumrah, kuldeep and potentially kartik tyagi, nagarkoti etc.

But the batting is a concern. S
Iyer looks weak against seam.

Don't know if pritvi shaw is as good as he is talked about. Barring rohit in odis, pujara and agrawal in tests, indian batting is reliant on virat alot
 
We can all agree that no batsman may ever replicate virat kohli.
His exit will significantly weaken india
 
sindhiboy said:
Maybe
But they almost lost against windies in the odi series.

Nz also could have won this series if they didn't choke massively.

Bowling will remain the best under bumrah, kuldeep and potentially kartik tyagi, nagarkoti etc.

But the batting is a concern. S
Iyer looks weak against seam.

Don't know if pritvi shaw is as good as he is talked about. Barring rohit in odis, pujara and agrawal in tests, indian batting is reliant on virat alot
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India will smash England 5-0 at home. Bring it on.
 
I wont go that far ahead, all major teams rise when they have 6-8 world class match winners in the team.

If you look at the invincible Australian team from 1999 to 2007, you would have expected the Australian team to win everything forever but lol look at them now, they look like a beatable team now.

Heck look at South Africa now, who would have thought the South African team of 1992 to 2018 would be in the state they are in right now.
 
India's fortunes have gone up with Kohlis obsession with fitness and winning. It's his way or the high way, every member of the team has a six pack now.

Contrast this with how Sarfaraz let himself go as captain
 
sindhiboy said:
We can all agree that no batsman may ever replicate virat kohli.
His exit will significantly weaken india
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same words were spoken when tendulkar was rulling world cricket. India is the batting university of world cricket. Bring a pak batsman and let him learn here.... He will atleast become raina if not better.
 
Itachi said:
same words were spoken when tendulkar was rulling world cricket. India is the batting university of world cricket. Bring a pak batsman and let him learn here.... He will atleast become raina if not better.
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No batsman today averages 60 in odis after 250 matches. And above 50 in tests and t20s. All simultaneously.

Many aussie batsman, hussey, pointing Gilchrist, avged around 50 in tests and 40 in odis. So did kallis, inzi, yousuf, dravid, Lara

Tendulkars record was not seen as impossible to achieve.

Kohli has raised the bar significantly, no batter currently can achieve his record in odis, that is almost certain
 
sindhiboy said:
No batsman today averages 60 in odis after 250 matches. And above 50 in tests and t20s. All simultaneously.

Many aussie batsman, hussey, pointing Gilchrist, avged around 50 in tests and 40 in odis. So did kallis, inzi, yousuf, dravid, Lara

Tendulkars record was not seen as impossible to achieve.

Kohli has raised the bar significantly, no batter currently can achieve his record in odis, that is almost certain
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Tendulkars record wasn't seen as impossible to achieve?

Go through the tendulkar mega thread and read how many times different people have wrote it. You don't even need to go away from PP.
 
Nz- India series remind me of India tour of England where India lose 4-1 , results showing its was one sided series but that's not true .
 
Test lover said:
Nz- India series remind me of India tour of England where India lose 4-1 , results showing its was one sided series but that's not true .
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Absolutely.

NZ are so pathetic that they got whitewashed by this indian team.

Could have won this series 3-2 easily.
 
The strongest T20 team is either England or WI imho.

WI bring their A game in world t20s.

India if it gets the right people can do well but right now there are too many holes.
 
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The answer is simple: NO.

No team, not even the great West Indies of the 80’s or the Australians of the 00’s could maintain their dominance for more than 15 years and 9 years respectively.

This Indian team has dethroned SA as the best Test team since they beat them in 2015.

But their leader (Kohli) and right-hand-man (Sharma) are 31 and 32, respectively.

Their spin bowlers have regressed and besides Bumrah, their other fast bowlers are also on the wrong side of 30 and or too injury-prone.

I believe they will remain the top team in all formats for another three to four years maximum.

The next powerhouse will be... England.
 
Mamoon said:
[MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION]

India beat Bangladesh 2-1.

Bangladesh won a match because of a brilliant 60 not out by Mushfiq who you think is not even good enough to play against Pakistan.

I know this will fall on deaf years, but let me explain something:

In today’s era, there is no such thing as a good T20I team and a mediocre ODI team. You are either good at white ball cricket or you are not.

This isn’t 2007 anymore. The concept of having a separate set of players for ODIs and T20Is doesn’t exist anymore.

The reason is that ODI cricket has evolved to the point where it is almost an extended version of T20I cricket.

If a player is not good enough to play ODI cricket, he is most likely not good enough to play T20I cricket either and vice-versa.

If a team is ranked 1 in T20Is and 6 in ODIs, it is very clear that there is something wrong.

In today’s era, you can be a low ranked LOI team and a high ranked Test team, but you cannot be a low ranked ODI team and a high ranked T20I team.

Either Pakistan’s T20I ranking is misleading or Pakistan’s ODI ranking is misleading.

Unfortunately, when you look at the composition of our team and the caliber of our players, it is obvious that our 6th ranking in ODIs is largely the true reflection of where we stand in Limited Overs cricket.

Apart from Babar, there is no player in Pakistan who can genuinely make a claim for a place in a world T20I or world ODI XI, or a world Limited Overs XI.

If Pakistan were to play three 5 match T20I series against India, England and Australia, it will lose around 11-12 matches and will find itself 5th or 6th in the ranking, which is an accurate assessment of where we stand in Limited Overs cricket.
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You don't think there is a case for Shaheen?
 
CadPakFan said:
You don't think there is a case for Shaheen?
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Even Babar is borderline, because there are several better T20I batsmen than him and quite a few ODI batsmen in his mould (Root, Williamson, Smith) who are arguably better than him, but you can certainly make a case for him.

Shaheen is very good but he has not done enough to be considered world class yet. However, he is one his way and should be considered among the best bowlers in the world in a couple of years. Along with Babar, he is the only good thing about Pakistan cricket at the moment.
 
With a captain like Rohit i would back India to win a multi-national tournament. Kohli leads Indian side like he does with RCB which never won the IPL ever.
 
A lot can happen in 10 years.

Strong Test team but not dominant in ODIs or T20Is where 10 years of leading the pack is impossible.
 
If you look at the talent they have coming through it's really hard to disagree. It's hard for Pakistan fans to admit this truth though.
 
Hasan123 said:
If you look at the talent they have coming through it's really hard to disagree. It's hard for Pakistan fans to admit this truth though.
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Batting is in safe hands. Unpredictable area is fast bowling. India also has a plethora of leg spinners coming up. Kartik Tyagi, Mavi, Nagarkoti, Gurbani, Akash Singh, Ishan Porel have to take it to next level.
 
Mamoon said:
Even Babar is borderline, because there are several better T20I batsmen than him and quite a few ODI batsmen in his mould (Root, Williamson, Smith) who are arguably better than him, but you can certainly make a case for him.

Shaheen is very good but he has not done enough to be considered world class yet. However, he is one his way and should be considered among the best bowlers in the world in a couple of years. Along with Babar, he is the only good thing about Pakistan cricket at the moment.
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Babar is borderline?! I’ve heard it all.

Babar is better than Root...ODI and T20.
Babar is a bigger talent than Williamson but isn’t mentally on his level in terms of match winning ability.

Smith and Kohli are the only 2 batsmen in the World who are genuinely better than Babar in the 3 formats combined. Although Babar is going to overtake Smith in ODIs and T20s at some point.

As far as T20 is concerned, you don’t stay number 1 in something for so long if there are arguably so many better batsman than you in this format. You consistently fail to recognise that Babar does not get the opportunity to play cricket as regularly as the big 3 players do.
 
Ten years is going to far. India will easily remain number one for the next three years of something. There is no dethroning them for the next few years, they're easily the best at the moment.
 
Rana said:
Babar is borderline?! I’ve heard it all.

Babar is better than Root...ODI and T20.
Babar is a bigger talent than Williamson but isn’t mentally on his level in terms of match winning ability.

Smith and Kohli are the only 2 batsmen in the World who are genuinely better than Babar in the 3 formats combined. Although Babar is going to overtake Smith in ODIs and T20s at some point.

As far as T20 is concerned, you don’t stay number 1 in something for so long if there are arguably so many better batsman than you in this format. You consistently fail to recognise that Babar does not get the opportunity to play cricket as regularly as the big 3 players do.
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Babar is not better than Root in ODIs. At most, he is at the same level. They are both very similar in how they bat and at the rate which they bat, and they are roughly equal in terms of consistency as well.

Same goes for Williamson and Smith. You can see that he is younger than all three and would overtake them (which is quite possible), but World XIs do not take potential into account. They only consider the performance.

Babar certainly makes a strong case to be part of the World XI because of his excellent performances, but I called him borderline because he doesn’t walk into the side like Kohli, Rohit, Stokes, Buttler, Bumrah, Starc etc.

Would England, Australia and New Zealand swap Root, Smith and Williamson for Babar in their ODI teams today? I don’t think so. Maybe the answer would be different if you ask in 3-4 years.

As far as T20Is are concerned, the problem with individual player rankings in this format is that unless two players play in the same team against the same opposition, you cannot really compare their rating points.

Babar is a very good T20 opener, but he has played far too many soft T20Is in the last two years. He also plays in every match which helps his ranking points.

On the contrary, players like Kohli etc. regularly skip T20I matches.

Babar is the number one ranked T20I batsman in the world, but he is not the best T20I batsman in the world.

Kohli
Rohit
Rahul
Warner
Finch
Roy
Buttler
Bairstow

They are all better T20I batsmen. If Babar plays in the same team as Kohli, Rohit and Rahul, or if he bats at 3 behind openers like Warner-Finch and Roy-Bairstow, would he still be the number 1 batsman and would he still stand out like he does now? The answer is no.

Both Pakistan and Babar rankings in T20I cricket are fictitious.

The three best T20I teams in the world are India, England and Australia. They are perhaps at the same level but I personally feel that India and England have the edge.

However, all three are comfortably better than Pakistan.

If Pakistan were to play three 5 match T20I series against full-strength India, England and Australia, Pakistan would lose around 11-12 of the 15 matches, and several of the aforementioned batsmen would outperform Babar.

Pakistan is at best a 4th ranked T20I team if not 5th or 6th, and Babar just about gets into the top 10 batsmen.

That makes him a world class player and he definitely is one, but let’s not make him what he is not. He quite clearly is not the best batsman in the world in T20I cricket or the third best batsman in the world after Kohli and Smith.
 
Mamoon said:
It is a privilege to watch this GOAT Asian team.

Truly the best Test team in the world, and the best ODI/T20I side as well along with England.

India was always destined to be the strongest Asian side, and also stronger than all other teams and on par with the likes of Australia and England.

They have the largest cricket population in the world, the most prosperous Asian country among the cricket playing countries, a huge cricket crazy market etc.

It took a very long time for them to assert their dominance because of in the incompetence of BCCI, but once they got their act together around the late 90’s/early 2000’s, there is no stopping them now.

The gap between them and other sides (excluding the other big 2) will continue to widen.
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Mamoon is over the moon today to see the article like this.
 
india's victory last year in australia showed their true potential and their bowling there was world class and most teams lack with ball in australia. India have a set of bowlers who can bring positive results for india in overseas conditions , while india can compete in all the sena countries same cant be said about any teams of sena in india. Pretty sure india will win against south africa in their next tour to south africa.
 
India will easily beat pakistan but it would be a shame if Pakistan doesnt play even a single test match against the GOAT indian team. Any performances against india will have a lot of value and pakistan is missing out on it.
 
l think op has caught The mamoon bug lmao very good team but no where near the great windies or Aussie teams of yesteryears..
 
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jnaveen1980 said:
Batting is in safe hands. Unpredictable area is fast bowling. India also has a plethora of leg spinners coming up. Kartik Tyagi, Mavi, Nagarkoti, Gurbani, Akash Singh, Ishan Porel have to take it to next level.
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India will still produce world class spinners. Even if they don't produce world class fast bowlers , they will produce bowlers who are disciplined and can bowl to a plan.
 
Will be keenly tracking this thread and rate OP's jinx potential. I feel [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION] is onto something spectacular here.
 
An all-weather bowling attack and batsmen’s improved ability against pacers in overseas conditions have made India a formidable unit across formats, feels former New Zealand head coach Mike Hesson.

Hesson, who will take charge of Royal Challengers Bangalore in the 2020 IPL season, also said the 5-0 rout of New Zealand in the T20 series shows the current lot of Indian players is exceptionally talented.

“India are far better side now at present and they are improving all the time. Their bowling attack now suits all conditions around the world because their bowlers, pacers and spinners, are so good. That’s something they haven’t always had,” Hesson told PTI in an interview.

“And their batsmen’s ability to play pace bowling has also got better the more they have toured. So this group of players is exceptionally talented group. This series’ win will help them (for the World Cup in Australia later this year).”

Up next is a three-match ODI series, with the first match in Hamilton on Wednesday. Hesson said New Zealand’s new-look pace attack will have its task cut out.

However, he feels the subsequent two-Test series will be a different proposition despite New Zealand’s recent 0-3 loss in Australia.

“New Zealand had a poor tour of Australia and they would be hurt with that. But up to that point, their Test cricket was exceptional in the last 2-3 seasons, probably even longer.

“New Zealand know these conditions well. From a Test bowling point of view, if there is something in the surface, likes of Tim Southee will exploit it and Trent Boult should be back as well. Neil Wagner asks different questions too, so I am really looking forward to it.

“India will have an expectation of winning this Test series. But New Zealand is a very tough place to come and win Test matches. You cannot take anything for granted and I am sure India won’t,” said Hesson.

Hesson also blamed New Zealand for making some questionable decisions during the T20 series in which it lost back-to-back games in a Super Over.

“Losing in such a manner can become a bit of habit. Once New Zealand lost a couple (Super Overs), they almost started dreading the Super Over. And once you do that, you are not in the right frame of mind.

“Once again, even in both those Super Overs, New Zealand were in situations in this series where they could have won it. They will look back in hindsight and wonder if they used the right bowling option (Tim Southee) at that time.

“Changes of pace can be useful in a Super Over rather than necessarily trying to bowl yorkers, reckoned Hesson.

While India ticked off a couple question marks in terms of Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey and the pace department with youngsters, there are still some question marks remaining in their World Cup preparation.

Power-hitting in the middle, for example, as Shivam Dube went off-colour as the series progressed. Additionally, Rishabh Pant didn’t get any chances as K. L. Rahul kept wickets.

“They were trying out different players in this series (and home season). Tried Shivam Dube, and Manish Pandey, who were playing slightly different roles, and I think they have found enough about those players. Of course if you have the ability to bring in Hardik Pandya (currently injured) towards the backend, that gives an extra dimension.”

About the vital M. S. Dhoni question, Hesson opined that India already had plans in place if the former skipper didn’t return after the IPL as speculated. Dhoni has not played a competitive game since the World Cup semifinal loss to New Zealand in July.

“It seems like India have moved on. And they have certainly had to put their plans in place for when that (Dhoni’s retirement) happens. I have heard in the press that a lot depends on the IPL in terms of how Dhoni operates. If he is in good touch then obviously he plays, but looks like India have moved past MSD at this stage.”

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/indi...hami-virat-kohli-kl-rahul/article30725749.ece
 
BreadPakoda said:
What about Rabada?
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Rabada is behind these five in ODI cricket. Brilliant in tests and only good in ODIs.

Shaheen is fantastic for ODIs though.But he needs to maintain it for three-four years then only we should conclude anything.
 
Ab Fan said:
Bumrah
Starc
Archer
Boult
Shami

These five are ahead IMO in ODI cricket.
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Archer with 14 matches and avg of 24 makes it but Shaheen with 19 matches and average of 21 needs to do it for more years?

Agreed with the rest and will probably put in Amir over Archer as off now. He also took 17 wickets in 8 matches @21 in WC 19 while Archer took 3 more in 3 more matches. Yes Amir was wicketless for quite a few matches but maintains better economy than all the ones you have mentioned except Bumrah while Archer havent played enough matches to consider his economy.
 
Couple of years? Sure.

The next 10 years? Extremely low chance.
 
Titan24 said:
Archer with 14 matches and avg of 24 makes it but Shaheen with 19 matches and average of 21 needs to do it for more years?

Agreed with the rest and will probably put in Amir over Archer as off now. He also took 17 wickets in 8 matches @21 in WC 19 while Archer took 3 more in 3 more matches. Yes Amir was wicketless for quite a few matches but maintains better economy than all the ones you have mentioned except Bumrah while Archer havent played enough matches to consider his economy.
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Archer is overrated
 
Titan24 said:
Archer with 14 matches and avg of 24 makes it but Shaheen with 19 matches and average of 21 needs to do it for more years?

Agreed with the rest and will probably put in Amir over Archer as off now. He also took 17 wickets in 8 matches @21 in WC 19 while Archer took 3 more in 3 more matches. Yes Amir was wicketless for quite a few matches but maintains better economy than all the ones you have mentioned except Bumrah while Archer havent played enough matches to consider his economy.
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Amir is definitely one of the best defensive bowler in the world. Not that you can't line up against. But you need to be in real good rhythm to whack him off his line. He is pretty clever with subtle changes.
 
10 years is a very long time period. I don't think India will be able to sustain till that long. Australia poses a very big threat.
 
BreadPakoda said:
10 years is a very long time period. I don't think India will be able to sustain till that long. Australia poses a very big threat.
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It all comes down to how each team does overseas. I think England will have a better side in the long run to do well across the world. They have a pretty good bench strength. But with England you never know. They could go through a horrendous run out of nowhere.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
It all comes down to how each team does overseas. I think England will have a better side in the long run to do well across the world. They have a pretty good bench strength. But with England you never know. They could go through a horrendous run out of nowhere.
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Exactly my feelings abt England.
 
The U19 lads are a good indication of the future.
 
Rudi hater said:
Why t20?
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Because Pakistan topping the chart who on merit isn't even a top 5 team. India, Aus, Eng are comfortably better, SL just thrashed them 3-0 at their home and SA too is better albeit on certain conditions only.
 
india can dominate for another 2 or
3 years. They still have to draft in youngsters potentially. They will always be a top team. So top 2/3 is definitely possible for the next 10 year's.

india will most likely prioritize tests so there is a good chance they can dominate in that format along with australia and England

in odi it will be shared amongst big 3 and pakistan.

t20 is anyone's game. Any of india, England, pakistan or even west indies can win it.

I don't believe australia can dominate in t20. They lack the attributes of a modern t20 player. Perhaps at home they could win the world cup but certainly not away.
 
JibranAnsari said:
The number of good players coming through their ranks is unbelievable , their batting is superb and they have an incredible bowling lineup as well. The backup is as good as the main team , they will easily surpass the great west indian team of 80s and australian team of 2000s. There will be rare failures but most often than not they will come on top of their opposition.
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Agreed

Fast bowlers
Bumrah saini Shami ishant b kumar pandya yadav thakur / chahar in a team
Siraj krishna mavi nagarkotti Sushant tyagi porel Aaron in b team

Pant Saha Kishan Bharath Samson all good keepers who can bat . Parthiv still around too . Rahul ?

Openers

Sharma dhawan shaw rahul jaiswal Devdutt ...

Middle order

Kohli vihari rahane pujara nair sarfaraaz khan gill Panchal

Spinners

Ashwin jadeja kuldeep chahal
Washington axar Goetham left arm guy from Bihar shreyas gopal ...


I have forgotten at least ten more talents and many will shine in ipl .. it’s an incessant talent factory

Amazing support staff

Think india biggest weakness is its coach . Get a Gary Kirsten and this team will ein all trophies ..
 
I dont know what is the significance of rankings anymore other than to give you a guide of where teams are at the moment? Now that we have a test championship its all a bit confusing what happens if team stay number 1 for 10 years but win the test championships say only once?
 
I think i believe that now.

I never believe in theories. India has shown us by action.
 
Pakhs said:
I dont know what is the significance of rankings anymore other than to give you a guide of where teams are at the moment? Now that we have a test championship its all a bit confusing what happens if team stay number 1 for 10 years but win the test championships say only once?
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WTC is useless and jokes in the current format. You can play your 6 chosen series. You collect equal points for beating BD vs India. You can play 2 vs 5 tests in series.

WTC should be played with mandatory 3 tests and all teams playing home and away. If that happens then equal points for all tests is fine because it will average out.

The current ranking system is a flawed system, but a far better indication of real performance than WTC.
 
10 years is a long time though for being rank 1. India can lose in SA/Eng etc and immediately drop lots of points.
 
ind_win said:
For this to happen, India should at least tick the overseas win boxes in SA, AUS, Eng at least once in each country. That will also secure their place in history books with better and deserving respect too.

Ofcourse in test matches.
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I think SA is a possibility. But we ENG and NZ are the real challenge. But if Shubman, Pant and other youngsters can settle in then they can give ENG and NZ a good run for their money in the next 2-3 years.
 
docteurmanish said:
Agreed

Fast bowlers
Bumrah saini Shami ishant b kumar pandya yadav thakur / chahar in a team
Siraj krishna mavi nagarkotti Sushant tyagi porel Aaron in b team

Pant Saha Kishan Bharath Samson all good keepers who can bat . Parthiv still around too . Rahul ?

Openers

Sharma dhawan shaw rahul jaiswal Devdutt ...

Middle order

Kohli vihari rahane pujara nair sarfaraaz khan gill Panchal

Spinners

Ashwin jadeja kuldeep chahal
Washington axar Goetham left arm guy from Bihar shreyas gopal ...


I have forgotten at least ten more talents and many will shine in ipl .. it’s an incessant talent factory

Amazing support staff

Think india biggest weakness is its coach . Get a Gary Kirsten and this team will ein all trophies ..
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Cant disagree more with you. Just watch the latest video on Ashwin's youtube channel regarding the adeliade and melbourne test. Ashwin clearly tells how Shastri motivated the team after 36 all out. He asked them all to wear the 36 all out like a badge and that 36 all out will make the team great. Which actually turned out to be true.

Also shastri was the one who asked Ashwin to bowl in the first 10 overs of the melbourne test as the wicket was a bit damp and would assist spin.

We all tend to undermine Shastri's role in the team but he seems to be doing a good job.

Also before Virat left australia Shastri, Kohli, Rahane and other coaches had a meeting and decided to strengthen the bowling after the 36 all out debacle (surprisingly) wherein jaddu replaced virat and it turned out to be a master stroke with jaddu perform,ing with bat and ball and umesh breaking down in 2nd innings.

We need to give credit where its due.
 
The only way a team can remain strong if they have quality replacement. West Indies team remained unbeatable till Marshall and Viv were around. They remained pretty competitive till Walsh and Ambrose held the bowling. After that they never found a bowler near that class fell away especially in test cricket. Even Australia fell massively after Mcgrath and Warne retired. However in short time they found quality replacement from time to time and remained mostly in top 4.

South African team has not been same since AB De and Amla retired , they still have pretty good bowling attack but lack of high quality batters means they are not as strong team as they use to be.

New Zealand has currently their strongest side in history. They seem to have find some new quality pacers , however quality future batters will show whether they will sustain in top 4 in coming years.

Pakistan remained competitive mostly as they found good replacement from time to time. Their biggest issue over last decade was replacement players age was already high. Notably Abbas and Misbah and even Yasir Shah. However now they found younger high quality players in Babar and Shaheen. This means Pakistan will get stronger in coming years.

I don't know regarding India whether it will go West Indies or Australia's way after few significant retirement or injuries. My instinct say India will go Australia's way after C side somehow managed to win Gabba test.
 
Been No.1 for 5 out of last 6 years and the only reason they slipped to No.2 in covid year 2020 due to lots of cancellation of tough matches of other top teams.

Truly an outstanding achievement and proud to be fan of this great team.
 
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