India XI of those who were unlucky not to get a consistent chance

[Dulex9]

Most of these guys played in the late 90s, early 00s and two-three around 92-96.

India had played quite a lot of players, some may have played for 40 odis, 10 tests, before never seen again. Mohanty was picked for 99 wc and then again in the Sri Lanka odi series in 2001.

Which players in your opinion were unlucky not to be given a consistent chance?

D Gandhi
S Ramesh
R Gavaskar
J Martin (played in 99/00 test series in Australia)
Badani
R Sodhi
Dhahiya
V Bharadwaj
Kumaran
Mohanty
Kuruvilla

N Chopra
A Khurunishya (Picked for 99 wc)
S Sriram
Joshi
A Bhandari (played in asia cup 2000/sharjah series 2000)
Anolka
Banajaree
RP Singh
Bahuttle
Chauhan
Bedade
Dighe (w/k)

 

[tyron_woodley]

Apart from kuruvilla and maybe Ramesh rest were dud fodder tbh.

 

[deep82]

All of them were utter trash. We were disgrace in 90's. Apart from the main team ( that too depended on batting and spinners), the backup talent was shockingly bare.

From the above list, I would only take S Ramesh as he was a special talent and played well against Wasim & co. in 1998.

Sunil Joshi and D Mohanty had few moments. But overall they were mediocre as well.

 

[Dulex9]

I forgot to add:

Salvi
M Prasad
Dasgupta
Kapoor (played in 96 wc)
VRV Singh
I Pathan
Balaji
R Powar

 

[deep82]

I forgot to add:

Salvi
M Prasad
Dasgupta
Dighe
VRV Singh
I Pathan
R Powar

I Pathan was a special talent and overall he did decent in his career including a WC medal in 2007.

Rest were again trash.

 

[tyron_woodley]

All of them were utter trash. We were disgrace in 90's. Apart from the main team ( that too depended on batting and spinners), the backup talent was shockingly bare.

From the above list, I would only take S Ramesh as he was a special talent and played well against Wasim & co. in 1998.

Sunil Joshi and D Mohanty had few moments. But overall they were mediocre as well.

Funnily enough in the 90s no one beat India away. India were very strong at home even with all these trash players. Only Pakistan won an Asia cup test series but it wasn't a proper bilateral.

I agree s.ramesh was a special talent. Should have been give more chances.

 

[tyron_woodley]

I forgot to add:

Salvi
M Prasad
Dasgupta
Kapoor (played in 96 wc)
VRV Singh
I Pathan
Balaji
R Powar

Dear lord. So many crap players in 90s. Balaji had one good series vs Pakistan and then became extremely injury prone. Just faded away.

 

[Ab Fan]

Irfan Pathan had it all. Skills, charisma, aesthetics, looks, personality all.

 

[Ab Fan]

Funnily enough in the 90s no one beat India away. India were very strong at home even with all these trash players. Only Pakistan won an Asia cup test series but it wasn't a proper bilateral.

I agree s.ramesh was a special talent. Should have been give more chances.

Because Kumble and Srinath were beast at home and Tendulkar, Sidhu and Azhar were great batsmen at home as well.

 

[andy0204]

Hemang badani.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Everyone in the OP list are duds. The only one I think who deserved a long run was Wasim Jaffer. Rohan Gavaskar was the worst of all.

I cannot believe India produced so much trash during 1988 - 1999.

 

[Dulex9]

Ramesh was an exception. He played in the Asia test championship, the series in Australia 99/00, I think also the series in 2001 and a Sharjah series and the 99 world cup.

Then Sehwag came along.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Sadagopan Ramesh played peak Akhtar so well.

Still remember that shot where he would cut the Akhtar ball for 4 on the offside.

Will always have my respect for that.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Sadagopan Ramesh played peak Akhtar so well.

Still remember that shot where he would cut the Akhtar ball for 4 on the offside.

Will always have my respect for that.

He was very good against Pakistan in the 1998 series as well.

1999 he played Akhtar.

 

[Dulex9]

India's fortunes changes late 2000 when bringing in Yuvraj, Zaheer, H Singh, Kaif, Nehra and after Sehwag in 2001 and then keeping Dravid in the team as keeper. They did try and give Kambli a chance in that 2000 knockout tournament.

Got to give it to Ganguly, turned around India's fortunes.

 

[Dulex9]

Forget to add H Kanitkar.

 

[MP2011]

Sadagopan Ramesh played peak Akhtar so well.

Still remember that shot where he would cut the Akhtar ball for 4 on the offside.

Will always have my respect for that.

Ramesh was a player who relied on his timing. Once that went, he was a nobody.

 

[King_Kohli]

KL Rahul is unlucky player compare to Rohit Sharma.
KL consistently dropped many times.
Rohit had huge backup during initial days, he consistently picked despite of mediocre performance.

 

[shamaan]

KL Rahul is unlucky player compare to Rohit Sharma.
KL consistently dropped many times.
Rohit had huge backup during initial days, he consistently picked despite of mediocre performance.

But that's what you call backing and now he produces the goods second best bat after kohli

 

[silent ischemia]

Hope SKY gets a consistent run. Looks a special talent

 

[CricketCartoons]

Ramesh was a player who relied on his timing. Once that went, he was a nobody.

Which batsman has managed to be successful without timing?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Which batsman has managed to be successful without timing?

Some rely on timing a lot more than others.

Once that dips, their batting goes down alarmingly.

Same goes for players who rely on hand-eye coordination.

Once they lose it, they are pretty much done.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Vikram Rathore. He had the misfortune of playing his last two test matches in South Africa on uncharacteristically fast pitches against an Allan Donald in his absolute prime.

He showed promise with his 44 in the third match when he opened with Nayan Mongia, where he faced the pace battery for over 4 hours across two innings. Exceptionally safe pair of hands at time when India was at best a pedestrian side viz a viz fielding.

He deserved more opportunities, certainly after his strong showing at Johannesburg.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Some rely on timing a lot more than others.

Once that dips, their batting goes down alarmingly.

Same goes for players who rely on hand-eye coordination.

Once they lose it, they are pretty much done.

There are techniques being developed to improve response times.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

There are techniques being developed to improve response times.

Yeah but those are for developing players.

If ability wanes due to age, you can makeup with other skills. But if you don't have those skills, you are done.

Take fast bowlers for example.

All of them lose pace as they grow old.

Some can function by relying on their skills & experience.

While others are simply cannon fodder once pace deserts them.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Vikram Rathore. He had the misfortune of playing his last two test matches in South Africa on uncharacteristically fast pitches against an Allan Donald in his absolute prime.

He showed promise with his 44 in the third match when he opened with Nayan Mongia, where he faced the pace battery for over 4 hours across two innings. Exceptionally safe pair of hands at time when India was at best a pedestrian side viz a viz fielding.

He deserved more opportunities, certainly after his strong showing at Johannesburg.

Liked Vikram Rathore.

And Dodda Ganesh too. He would send stumps cartwheeling in domestic.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Praveen Amre. Another unlucky guy.

 

[msb314]

Also:
- Saba Karim
- Wasim Jaffer
- Venugopal Rao
- Murali Kartik
- Dinesh Mongia
- Mohit Singh

 

[silent ischemia]

Amol Mazumdar. Heard alot about this guy scoring plenty of runs in the Ranji Trophy in the 90s but never got a chance to play in the national side

 

[MP2011]

From yesteryears,

Padmakar Shivalkar
Rajinder Goel

 

[MP2011]

Amol Mazumdar. Heard alot about this guy scoring plenty of runs in the Ranji Trophy in the 90s but never got a chance to play in the national side

This is true. Even though we played so many duds especially in overseas tests in '90s.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Of the above list only Irfan Pathan, Padmakar Shivalkar and Rajinder Goel was seriously unlucky. Pathan because he got messed around, the other two because they played at a time of India's spinning greats and couldn't find a place.

Wasim Jaffer and Amre could both be said to be a tad unlucky, but they had their decent run.

Amol Majumdar, but he was competing for a middle order that was already set in stone for long parts of his career.

The other ones mentioned in all the lists so far were all average cricketers (unless I missed a name). Absolutely average,

 

[Justcrazy]

None of the above were International standards.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Also:
- Saba Karim
- Wasim Jaffer
- Venugopal Rao
- Murali Kartik
- Dinesh Mongia
- Mohit Singh

Saba Karim suffered a vicious injury to his eye from a Kumble delivery that spat fire and kicked the bails into his face. I think that brought about a premature end to his career.

Jaffer sort of went in and out of the team, and while he had some strong performances, he was unlucky to have played in a time when the expectations of a batsman were incredibly high.

 

[Dulex9]

D Gandhi
S Ramesh
Kantikar
J Martin (played in 99/00 test series in Australia)
Badani
R Sodhi
Dhahiya
V Bharadwaj
Kumaran
Mohanty
Kuruvilla

Harvinder Singh
R Gavaskar
Salvi
M Prasad(w.k)
Ratra(w/k)
Dasgupta(w/k)
Kapoor (played in 96 wc)
VRV Singh
I Pathan
Balaji
R Powar
N Chopra
A Khurunishya (Picked for 99 wc)
S Sriram
Joshi
A Bhandari (played in asia cup 2000/sharjah series 2000)
Anolka
Banajaree
RP Singh
Bahuttle
Chauhan
Bedade
Dighe (w/k)
Saba Karim
Wasim Jaffer
Venugopal Rao

 

[Dulex9]

Forgot Sanjay Banger and Uthappa.

 

[Bhaijaan]

1. Yuvraj as a test match batsman was just unlucky to not have got more chances. Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly, Laxman kept that middle order packed for ages. In another era, or in another team, he would have made a decent test career.

2. Irfan Pathan was an unplayable new ball bowler better than than Mohammad Aamir and Trent Boult but Greig Chappell and management tried to turn him into a bits and pieces AR and that led him towards mediocrity from where he never returned.

3. Varun Aaron and Umesh Yadav were unlucky to have their prime years wasted under Dhoni. When Kohli and Shastri took charge, they tried to bring the dream to reality but it was too late. If Kohli-Shastri take over happened in 2010s, India would have u leashed Yadav-Aaron duo in their prime.

4. Dinesh Karthik had batting class that neither he nor Indian team management could ever make use of. Even without gloves, he had potential to play test cricket for India purely as a batsman.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

No mention of Kambli (in Tests)?

 

[Varun]

S Badrinath, anybody?

 

[MP2011]

S Badrinath, anybody?

Unlucky in the sense that he was contemporary of Fab-4. However I don't think he'd have done as well in international cricket as he did in domestic cricket.

 

[Dulex9]

D Gandhi
S Ramesh
Kantikar
J Martin
Badani
R Sodhi
Dhahiya (w/k)
V Bharadwaj-off spin
Kumaran-pace
Mohanty-pace
Kuruvilla-pace

Harvinder Singh-pace
R Gavaskar
Salvi-pace
M Prasad(w/k)
Ratra(w/k)
Dasgupta(w/k)
Kapoor (played in 96 wc)
VRV Singh-pace
I Pathan-pace
Balaji-pace
R Powar
N Chopra-off spin
A Khurunishya (Picked for 99 wc)
S Sriram
Joshi-left arm spin
M Kartick-left arm spin
A Bhandari (played in asia cup 2000/sharjah series 2000)
Anolka-pace
Banajaree-pace
RP Singh-pace
Bahuttle-leg spin
Chauhan
Bedade
Dighe (w/k)
Saba Karim (w/k)
Wasim Jaffer
Venugopal Rao
Uthappa (played in a handful of odi's)
S Banger
Amit Misha-leg spin bowling
Rathore
Kulkarni-spinner
R Chanaun-spinner