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Indian all-time XI vs Rest of the World XI in India - Who will win?

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Indian all-time XI

Sehwag
Gavaskar
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dhoni(wkt)
Kapil
Ashwin
Kumble
Bedi
Shami

Rest of the world all-time XI for India tour

S Fleming
JH Kallis
Zaheer Abbas
C Lloyd(c)
G Sobers
AB de Villiers (wkt)
I Botham
Wasim
G Swann
D Steyn
G McGrath

Who do you think will win a 5 match test series ?
 
Replace one of the bowlers with Saqlain combo of Swan and Saqlain will run through any Indian batting line up.
 
Saqi will be taken to cleaners by Sehwag. So he won't be able to run through Indian side. Bring on next.
 
Cook over Fleming in the World XI. Can’t leave the most successful non-Asian batsman in India.

India would win.
 
Cook over Fleming in the World XI. Can’t leave the most successful non-Asian batsman in India.

India would win.

Hahahahahahaha

India’s greatest XI in recent history have been whipping boys abroad. What makes you think a complete Indian XI would stand a chance against the greatest cricketers ever?
 
Saqi will be taken to cleaners by Sehwag. So he won't be able to run through Indian side. Bring on next.

Swann will take care of shewag and saqlain will take care of rest of batting line up as he did many times in the past. there is not need to worry about rest of world X1 in my opinion.
 
Indian all-time XI

Sehwag
Gavaskar
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dhoni(wkt)
Kapil
Ashwin
Kumble
Bedi
Shami

Rest of the world all-time XI for India tour

S Fleming
JH Kallis
Zaheer Abbas
C Lloyd(c)
G Sobers
AB de Villiers (wkt)
I Botham
Wasim
G Swann
D Steyn
G McGrath

Who do you think will win a 5 match test series ?

That World XI is quite hilarious to be honest - have you checked Zaheer's average in India? There will be MASSIVE change in the XI (and 15 men squad)

1. Grineedge
2. Cook/Amla
3. Viv
4. YK
5. Lloyd
6. +AdV
7. Sir Gary/Botham
8. *Benaud
9. Saqline/Underwood
10. MD Marshall
11. Styen/Hadlee
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In a 6 Test series with both winning 3 tosses each - it'll be 5-1 or even 6-0, World XI.
 
That World XI is quite hilarious to be honest - have you checked Zaheer's average in India? There will be MASSIVE change in the XI (and 15 men squad)

1. Grineedge
2. Cook/Amla
3. Viv
4. YK
5. Lloyd
6. +AdV
7. Sir Gary/Botham
8. *Benaud
9. Saqline/Underwood
10. MD Marshall
11. Styen/Hadlee
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In a 6 Test series with both winning 3 tosses each - it'll be 5-1 or even 6-0, World XI.

I probably will change one more player - Hayden for 2nd opener's slot, instead of Amla or Cook.
 
Hahahahahahaha

India’s greatest XI in recent history have been whipping boys abroad. What makes you think a complete Indian XI would stand a chance against the greatest cricketers ever?

Read the title before laughing.

“In India”
 
Yes

In India. What are indian’s strength in India?

All time Indian XI would score 400+ in every innings (in India) against any potential bowling attack. That effectively rules out the World XI from winning matches.

By India, I am team classic, stereotypical Indian pitches, not the odd seaming wicket they would give the World XI considerable advantage.
 
All time Indian XI would score 400+ in every innings (in India) against any potential bowling attack. That effectively rules out the World XI from winning matches.

By India, I am team classic, stereotypical Indian pitches, not the odd seaming wicket they would give the World XI considerable advantage.

An all time Indian XI won’t score 200 in an innings where Murali and Warne are bowling in tandem, 20 overs a piece with the occasional breaks of a fast bowler running in to bowl reverse swing
 
An all time Indian XI won’t score 200 in an innings where Murali and Warne are bowling in tandem, 20 overs a piece with the occasional breaks of a fast bowler running in to bowl reverse swing

Both were treated like club bowlers by Indian batsmen in India.
 
All time Indian XI would score 400+ in every innings (in India) against any potential bowling attack. That effectively rules out the World XI from winning matches.

By India, I am team classic, stereotypical Indian pitches, not the odd seaming wicket they would give the World XI considerable advantage.

I mean*
 
certain posters are acting like india have never lost a test match at home in the history of cricket. I hate to break it to you but an all time india xi would not be number one in any list,
 
Both were treated like club bowlers by Indian batsmen in India.

Yeah well let’s see if they can do it when it’s a world XI occasion and not Sri Lanka or Australia tour of India. But oh wait...we will never know would we?
 
Yeah well let’s see if they can do it when it’s a world XI occasion and not Sri Lanka or Australia tour of India. But oh wait...we will never know would we?

World XIs actually perform worse than national teams. So even if there is a hypothetical series, it is safe to assume that the likes of Warne and Muralitharan would not be as motivated as they were playing for their national sides.

Unfortunately for them, they didn’t exactly move mountains when they turned up India for their countries, just like the GOAT player of spin bowling Lara couldn’t deliver in India.
 
World XIs actually perform worse than national teams. So even if there is a hypothetical series, it is safe to assume that the likes of Warne and Muralitharan would not be as motivated as they were playing for their national sides.

Unfortunately for them, they didn’t exactly move mountains when they turned up India for their countries, just like the GOAT player of spin bowling Lara couldn’t deliver in India.

You wouldn’t argue the same for a greatest of all time v all time Pakistan XI in Pakistan

So why do you vehemently change your tone in favour of India?
 
You wouldn’t argue the same for a greatest of all time v all time Pakistan XI in Pakistan

So why do you vehemently change your tone in favour of India?

Of course.

Pakistan’s batting is not strong enough, even if we consider the all-time Pakistan XI.

Pakistan has basically produced only one genuine ATG batsman (Miandad), and even he is comfortably inferior to Gavaskar, Tendulkar and Kohli.
 
Pakistsn is the only side who beaten India in their home even Aussie lost to them. Pakistan record is far better than most teams. That should tell you something. :-)
 
Pakistan cricket team in India in 2012–13

Dates 25 December 2012 – 6 January 2013
Captains Mahendra Singh Dhoni Misbah-ul-Haq (ODI)
Mohammad Hafeez (T20)
One Day International series
Results Pakistan won the 3-match series 2–1

Player of the series Nasir Jamshed (Pak)
Twenty20 International series
Results 2-match series drawn 1–1

Player of the series Mohammad Hafeez (Pak)
 
Pakistsn is the only side who beaten India in their home even Aussie lost to them. Pakistan record is far better than most teams. That should tell you something. :-)

That Afridi, Inzimam, Yousuf, Younis khan team was so epic. These are not even ATG names but they played with heart against India in India.
 
Of course.

Pakistan’s batting is not strong enough, even if we consider the all-time Pakistan XI.

Pakistan has basically produced only one genuine ATG batsman (Miandad), and even he is comfortably inferior to Gavaskar, Tendulkar and Kohli.
Here is where you lose perspective.

Miandad, Inzimam, Yousuf and Younis khan are a damn good top 4, and all are ATG Level Test cricketers. Inzimam has an average of 78 in Test matches won btw. Mohammad Yousuf is a run machine at his peak. So add Babar Azam (in Pakistan) into this top 4 and Saeed Anwar or Zaheer Abbas, boy you will have to be a monster of a bowler who can toil hard in Pakistan to get these top 6 wickets.
 
Rest of the world all-time XI for India tour

S Fleming
JH Kallis
Zaheer Abbas
C Lloyd(c)
G Sobers
AB de Villiers (wkt)
I Botham
Wasim
G Swann
D Steyn
G McGrath

Who do you think will win a 5 match test series ?

Fleming, seriously? When you could have Hobbs, Hutton, Hanif, Simpson, Greenidge and even Cook? OK some of those guys didn't tour India.

Swann is nowhere near good enough when you could have O'Reilly, Grimmett, Laker or Murali.

Drop Kallis and get Imran, then you have a top gun quick bowler. I would be inclined to have Hadlee in the mix too.

Hanif
Cook
Miandad
Lloyd (c)
Sobers
Imran
Botham
Knott (w)
Hadlee
Underwood
Murali
 
In India, India will win 6 - 0 against any XI, in away they will lose 4-2 or 3-2. India is still number 1
 
Pakistsn is the only side who beaten India in their home even Aussie lost to them. Pakistan record is far better than most teams. That should tell you something. :-)

England beat India in India in 1976, 1985 and 2012.
 
In India, India will win 6 - 0 against any XI, in away they will lose 4-2 or 3-2. India is still number 1

World XI will be certainly avoid losing 1-2 tests in India. No way all time world XI will lose all 6 tests. India playing outside is more likely to result in India losing 6 tests than all time World XI losing 6 tests in India.
 
Here is where you lose perspective.

Miandad, Inzimam, Yousuf and Younis khan are a damn good top 4, and all are ATG Level Test cricketers. Inzimam has an average of 78 in Test matches won btw. Mohammad Yousuf is a run machine at his peak. So add Babar Azam (in Pakistan) into this top 4 and Saeed Anwar or Zaheer Abbas, boy you will have to be a monster of a bowler who can toil hard in Pakistan to get these top 6 wickets.

Not really.

Miandad was impossible to give out LBW and his away record was not fantastic. He even failed against the WI bowlers time and time again. A brilliant player and Pakistan’s greatest batsman, but inferior to the 4 greatest Asian batsmen (in no particular order): Gavaskar, Kohli, Tendulkar and Sangakkara.

Younis was an average player of pace bowling. He couldn’t establish himself permanently in the team from 2000 to 2005 because he repeatedly failed against McGrath, Walsh, Ambrose, Pollock and Donald. He has almost no chance of succeeding against an all-time World XI.

Younis wouldn’t have had a Test career in the 80’s and 90’s. Even at the end of his career, he was mostly a walking wicket against swing and seam.

Inzamam scored only 1 hundred in over 100+ innings against McGrath, Pollock and Donald. His performance against quality fast bowling is vastly overstated because he played well against Ambrose and Walsh on the relatively slower Caribbean wickets.

An excellent batsman but not in the league of the great batsmen of his time - Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting and Steve Waugh.

Babar Azam is yet to prove himself in Test cricket and you are talking about him delivering against an all-time World XI. It has only been 2-3 series since he has started scoring runs in Test cricket, and you think he will help Pakistan score big against bowlers like Marshall, McGrath, Warne, Muralitharan?

Zaheer Abbas was not a great Test player.
 
Pakistsn is the only side who beaten India in their home even Aussie lost to them. Pakistan record is far better than most teams. That should tell you something. :-)

Yes Pakistan is also the only side to climb Mt. Everest. Please get your facts right.
 
Not really.

Miandad was impossible to give out LBW and his away record was not fantastic. He even failed against the WI bowlers time and time again. A brilliant player and Pakistan’s greatest batsman, but inferior to the 4 greatest Asian batsmen (in no particular order): Gavaskar, Kohli, Tendulkar and Sangakkara.

Younis was an average player of pace bowling. He couldn’t establish himself permanently in the team from 2000 to 2005 because he repeatedly failed against McGrath, Walsh, Ambrose, Pollock and Donald. He has almost no chance of succeeding against an all-time World XI.

Younis wouldn’t have had a Test career in the 80’s and 90’s. Even at the end of his career, he was mostly a walking wicket against swing and seam.

Inzamam scored only 1 hundred in over 100+ innings against McGrath, Pollock and Donald. His performance against quality fast bowling is vastly overstated because he played well against Ambrose and Walsh on the relatively slower Caribbean wickets.

An excellent batsman but not in the league of the great batsmen of his time - Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting and Steve Waugh.

Babar Azam is yet to prove himself in Test cricket and you are talking about him delivering against an all-time World XI. It has only been 2-3 series since he has started scoring runs in Test cricket, and you think he will help Pakistan score big against bowlers like Marshall, McGrath, Warne, Muralitharan?

Zaheer Abbas was not a great Test player.

You are the same person who hypes up Mushfiqur Rahim even though he was a complete waste of space in the same period, but you discount Younis Khan who later scored 10k Test runs, is a marathon batsman and has scored 100s all over the world. Just watch that double ton he scored against England at the Oval in the twilight of his career. That was no easy feat, YK also scored bulks of Runs against India, be it in Pakistan or India. YK would be a behemoth against any attack in Pakistan, he may have the odd failure but he would certainly make it up with a double ton in the following innings, this is no fantasy either.

I find your comments about Inzimam insulting. The man has scored good centuries in his career, check the Australian cricket boards Instagram/Twitter account releasing footage of his 119 in Australia against McGrath and Warne. Also the hundreds he scored against Kumble, Muralitharan and Vettori are not exactly weak hundreds no matter where they are.

I clearly mentioned the Babar Azam who plays in Pakistan. For me, he would only get out in Pakistan if he just gets so bored and plays a silly shot, so I slot him into my All time XI regardless of Asad Shafiq, Saleem Malik, Azhar Ali having already established themselves much more than he did.
 
You are the same person who hypes up Mushfiqur Rahim even though he was a complete waste of space in the same period, but you discount Younis Khan who later scored 10k Test runs, is a marathon batsman and has scored 100s all over the world. Just watch that double ton he scored against England at the Oval in the twilight of his career. That was no easy feat, YK also scored bulks of Runs against India, be it in Pakistan or India. YK would be a behemoth against any attack in Pakistan, he may have the odd failure but he would certainly make it up with a double ton in the following innings, this is no fantasy either.

I find your comments about Inzimam insulting. The man has scored good centuries in his career, check the Australian cricket boards Instagram/Twitter account releasing footage of his 119 in Australia against McGrath and Warne. Also the hundreds he scored against Kumble, Muralitharan and Vettori are not exactly weak hundreds no matter where they are.

I clearly mentioned the Babar Azam who plays in Pakistan. For me, he would only get out in Pakistan if he just gets so bored and plays a silly shot, so I slot him into my All time XI regardless of Asad Shafiq, Saleem Malik, Azhar Ali having already established themselves much more than he did.

I don’t hype Mushfiq as some legendary batsman. I only hype him as better than any Pakistani batsmen at the moment excluding Babar.

I will tell what hyping looks like - making statements that Babar would only get out in Pakistan if he gets bored etc.

That is what you call hyping of absurd proportions. Babar has not done anything yet in his Test career to be considered for Pakistan’s all-time Test XI, and you are confidently picking him against the all time world XI.

I don’t know whether I should laugh or cry. Forget about mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq. The following Pakistani batsmen are ahead of Babar in Test cricket for now:

Miandad
Inzamam
Yousuf
Younis
Saeed Anwar
Saleem Malik
Hanif
Majid
Zaheer
Mushtaq Mohammad

Babar couldn’t buy a run in Test cricket until 2018-19, and now suddenly he is not only a lock-in for your all time Pakistan Test XI, you actually think that he will only get out against the greatest bowlers of all time if he gets bored.

As I say these days, since Babar is the only good thing about Pakistan cricket these days, our fans act as if he has been sent from the heavens.

In any proper cricket country, Babar right now would just be an excellent young player, because that is all he is at this point. Unfortunately, our standards have become ridiculously low.

Younis, Inzamam and Yousuf were all world class players but not ATGs. They are in the category of batsmen like Clarke, Amla, Chanderpaul etc. Excellent batsmen but a grade below the likes of Tendulkar, Viv, Kohli, Ponting, Lara etc.

Younis, along with Mahela, is arguably the weakest batsman in the 10k club, and Inzamam played some fabulous knocks but it was abundantly clear that he was not of the same caliber as the leading batsmen of his era - Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting.

Similarly, Yousuf was a great player, better than Younis in my view, but a cut below ATG batsmen.

For the record, I do believe that Babar has all the qualities to become Pakistan’s greatest batsman, but it is far too early to talk about him meriting a place in the all-time Pakistan Test XI, and that too against the all-time world XI.
 
An all time Indian XI won’t score 200 in an innings where Murali and Warne are bowling in tandem, 20 overs a piece with the occasional breaks of a fast bowler running in to bowl reverse swing

Murli and Warne.... Do you know their records in India
 
Murli and Warne.... Do you know their records in India

I’m arguing in the context of a world XI v India match.

The two bowling together as compared to the two bowling Individually for their countries will change the dynamic for sure
 
I don’t hype Mushfiq as some legendary batsman. I only hype him as better than any Pakistani batsmen at the moment excluding Babar.

I will tell what hyping looks like - making statements that Babar would only get out in Pakistan if he gets bored etc.

That is what you call hyping of absurd proportions. Babar has not done anything yet in his Test career to be considered for Pakistan’s all-time Test XI, and you are confidently picking him against the all time world XI.

I don’t know whether I should laugh or cry. Forget about mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq. The following Pakistani batsmen are ahead of Babar in Test cricket for now:

Miandad
Inzamam
Yousuf
Younis
Saeed Anwar
Saleem Malik
Hanif
Majid
Zaheer
Mushtaq Mohammad

Babar couldn’t buy a run in Test cricket until 2018-19, and now suddenly he is not only a lock-in for your all time Pakistan Test XI, you actually think that he will only get out against the greatest bowlers of all time if he gets bored.

As I say these days, since Babar is the only good thing about Pakistan cricket these days, our fans act as if he has been sent from the heavens.

In any proper cricket country, Babar right now would just be an excellent young player, because that is all he is at this point. Unfortunately, our standards have become ridiculously low.

Younis, Inzamam and Yousuf were all world class players but not ATGs. They are in the category of batsmen like Clarke, Amla, Chanderpaul etc. Excellent batsmen but a grade below the likes of Tendulkar, Viv, Kohli, Ponting, Lara etc.

Younis, along with Mahela, is arguably the weakest batsman in the 10k club, and Inzamam played some fabulous knocks but it was abundantly clear that he was not of the same caliber as the leading batsmen of his era - Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting.

Similarly, Yousuf was a great player, better than Younis in my view, but a cut below ATG batsmen.

For the record, I do believe that Babar has all the qualities to become Pakistan’s greatest batsman, but it is far too early to talk about him meriting a place in the all-time Pakistan Test XI, and that too against the all-time world XI.

Younis is only behind Miandad as test batsman. You keep on disrespecting him, yes he wasn’t a likable character but a wonderful batsman. Even at fag end of his career he el-classico oval double Ton against pretty good England attack. Yousuf and Inzi were great but they don’t have such innings


He was inconsistent from 2000-2005 because he was starting his career not because he lacked quality. He would have averaged as much in 80s or 90s because of sheer hardworking nature
 
I don’t hype Mushfiq as some legendary batsman. I only hype him as better than any Pakistani batsmen at the moment excluding Babar.

I will tell what hyping looks like - making statements that Babar would only get out in Pakistan if he gets bored etc.

That is what you call hyping of absurd proportions. Babar has not done anything yet in his Test career to be considered for Pakistan’s all-time Test XI, and you are confidently picking him against the all time world XI.

I don’t know whether I should laugh or cry. Forget about mediocrities like Azhar and Shafiq. The following Pakistani batsmen are ahead of Babar in Test cricket for now:

Miandad
Inzamam
Yousuf
Younis
Saeed Anwar
Saleem Malik
Hanif
Majid
Zaheer
Mushtaq Mohammad

Babar couldn’t buy a run in Test cricket until 2018-19, and now suddenly he is not only a lock-in for your all time Pakistan Test XI, you actually think that he will only get out against the greatest bowlers of all time if he gets bored.

As I say these days, since Babar is the only good thing about Pakistan cricket these days, our fans act as if he has been sent from the heavens.

In any proper cricket country, Babar right now would just be an excellent young player, because that is all he is at this point. Unfortunately, our standards have become ridiculously low.

Younis, Inzamam and Yousuf were all world class players but not ATGs. They are in the category of batsmen like Clarke, Amla, Chanderpaul etc. Excellent batsmen but a grade below the likes of Tendulkar, Viv, Kohli, Ponting, Lara etc.

Younis, along with Mahela, is arguably the weakest batsman in the 10k club, and Inzamam played some fabulous knocks but it was abundantly clear that he was not of the same caliber as the leading batsmen of his era - Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting.

Similarly, Yousuf was a great player, better than Younis in my view, but a cut below ATG batsmen.

For the record, I do believe that Babar has all the qualities to become Pakistan’s greatest batsman, but it is far too early to talk about him meriting a place in the all-time Pakistan Test XI, and that too against the all-time world XI.

Besides the top 4 (Miandad, Inzimam, Yousuf, Younis),

Tell me a single one capable of being ranked 5 with 800 points on the ICC table, 30 odd ahead of Pujara. That too after having to play the vast majority of his Test cricket outside of Pakistan.

None of those names would ever in this current day and age achieve this.
 
That World XI is quite hilarious to be honest - have you checked Zaheer's average in India? There will be MASSIVE change in the XI (and 15 men squad)

1. Grineedge
2. Cook/Amla
3. Viv
4. YK
5. Lloyd
6. +AdV
7. Sir Gary/Botham
8. *Benaud
9. Saqline/Underwood
10. MD Marshall
11. Styen/Hadlee
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In a 6 Test series with both winning 3 tosses each - it'll be 5-1 or even 6-0, World XI.

A better world XI than what OP posted will be

Cook
Hayden
Kallis
YK
Llyod(c)
Andy Flower(wkt)
Botham
Hadlee
Marshall
Steyn
Saqlain
 
Pakistan’s ATG XI

Anwar
Babar
Miandad
Inzimam
Yousuf
Younis
Imran khan (c)
Sarfaraz wk
Wasim
Waqar
Qadir

I don’t care what people think about Babar and Sarfaraz in this list. That’s my list and it will be yours in 10 years time as well.
 
Pakistan’s ATG XI

Anwar
Babar
Miandad
Inzimam
Yousuf
Younis
Imran khan (c)
Sarfaraz wk
Wasim
Waqar
Qadir

I don’t care what people think about Babar and Sarfaraz in this list. That’s my list and it will be yours in 10 years time as well.

I think Babar will replace Yousuf from the list in future. Abbas to open with Anwar.

Anwar
Abbas
Miandad
Khan
Babar
Inzy
Khan
Akram
Khan
Younis
Qadir
 
Assuming the rest of the world XI batting line up has Viv, Lara, Sobers, Bradman in middle order and Hafeez and Hayden opening the batting , that won’t be easy going for the Indian bowling attack.
 
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