Indian Fans - Do you see any changes for New Zealand game from today?

[leonidas_alexandar]

While it can easily be construed as pressing the panic button - but do you see any merit in ringing in some changes? Especially Ishan Kishan for Pandya?

I can see this change happening - if they do make a change to this eleven that played against Pakistan.

 

[street cricketer]

I kinda feared this happening given how so many players in the starting XI were out of form coming into the tournament - Rohit, Kohli, Pandya, Bhuvi, Shami. Even Bumrah wasn't all that in the IPL.

Can't replace the Rohit. Pandya needs to be dropped for Ishan Kishan, Shami for Siraj. And possibly look to include Ashwin or Thakur if Varun or Bhuvi look off colour in the next game too.

My XI

KL
Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Pant
Kishan
Jadeja
Varun
Siraj
Bhuvi
Bumrah

 

[Saurav]

Pandya if injured will be rested. Won't be dropped if hes fit.

Ashwin maybe come in for Varun/Shami

 

[Saurav]

I kinda feared this happening given how so many players in the starting XI were out of form coming into the tournament - Rohit, Kohli, Pandya, Bhuvi, Shami. Even Bumrah wasn't all that in the IPL.

Can't replace the Rohit. Pandya needs to be dropped for Ishan Kishan, Shami for Siraj. And possibly look to include Ashwin or Thakur if Varun or Bhuvi look off colour in the next game too.

My XI

KL
Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Pant
Kishan
Jadeja
Varun
Siraj
Bhuvi
Bumrah

Siraj is not in the squad

 

[leonidas_alexandar]

I kinda feared this happening given how so many players in the starting XI were out of form coming into the tournament - Rohit, Kohli, Pandya, Bhuvi, Shami. Even Bumrah wasn't all that in the IPL.

Can't replace the Rohit. Pandya needs to be dropped for Ishan Kishan, Shami for Siraj. And possibly look to include Ashwin or Thakur if Varun or Bhuvi look off colour in the next game too.

My XI

KL
Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Pant
Kishan
Jadeja
Varun
Siraj
Bhuvi
Bumrah

Since Siraj is actually not in the 15 man squad - are you assuming that Pandya will be out on injury and Siraj will come in as replacement?

 

[Ab Fan]

They need to figure out how they resolve a few major concerns for the next match.

1. How will Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul tackle against Trent Boult?

2. Kane Williamson has dominated Bumrah pretty much in all formats. Will Bumrah make a comeback?

3. Ashwin should be brought back as there are a few matchups vs New Zealand for him to exploit.

4. What is the role of Hardik Pandya in this team? Is he in the team just to bat in final 3-4 overs? Is his batting form any good in these conditions? Ishan Kishan is capable of striking the bowl too and he can be looked as option.

5. Why play both Bhuvi and Shami? It has to be only one of them and Shardul should be third pacer because he has knack of taking wickets and breaking partnerships. The Goldern Arm was missed in the game vs Pakistan.

 

[street cricketer]

Siraj is not in the squad

Since Siraj is actually not in the 15 man squad - are you assuming that Pandya will be out on injury and Siraj will come in as replacement?

Okay I thought he was in the squad. I guess we have to stick with Shami then and hope he regains his form.

 

[bala977]

No knee jerk reactions please. If at all a change needs to be made, maybe consider swapping Hardik for Ishan.

I back India to come back very strongly and make it to the finals. Fingers crossed

 

[Bilal7]

I hope India make no changes and get KO-ed.

However, if they want to get better:

1) Rahul
2) Rohit
3) Kohli
4) Kishan
5) Yadav
6) Pant
7) Jadeja
8) Thakur
9) Shami
10) Bumrah
11) Chakra

Kumar is finished. Shami is better. Ideally, they would drop Rohit and allow the younger, aggressive batsmen to face more deliveries.

 

[Charmander]

No knee jerk reaction needed. It's very possible they coast to knockouts with the same XI

 

[Abhilash93]

Bhuvi and Shami look done and dusted, but there is only Thakur available as replacement. Needed to have 1 more impactful pacer to partner Bumrah.

Also Ashwin in place of Varun (or in place of one of the pacers if Hardik is fit to bowl).

 

[Varun]

Also Ashwin in place of Varun (or in place of one of the pacers if Hardik is fit to bowl).

Whatever happened to those LoI spinners we were developing? Kuladeep? Chahal?

Why are we reverting to Ashwin and Jadeja?

 

[Tubs]

Whatever happened to those LoI spinners we were developing? Kuladeep? Chahal?

Why are we reverting to Ashwin and Jadeja?

Is it due to batting (and fielding in Jadeja's case)? Ashwin also has a fantastic cricketing brain.

 

[Extreme Pace]

India needs to make changes

1. KL Rahul
2. Rohit Sharma
3. Virat Kohli (c)
4. Ishan Kishan
5. Suraykumar Yadav
6. Risbah Pant (wk)
7. Ravindra Jadeja
8. Ravi Ashwin
9. Bhuv Kumar
10. Mohammed Shami
11. Jaspit Bumrah

Don't see Jadeja/Bhuvi preforming well but no better options in the squad

 

[Bewal Express]

Bhuvi looks shot, what's wrong with him. Shami was poor but I am amazed that Siraj isn't in the team

 

[Bewal Express]

They need to figure out how they resolve a few major concerns for the next match.

1. How will Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul tackle against Trent Boult?

2. Kane Williamson has dominated Bumrah pretty much in all formats. Will Bumrah make a comeback?

3. Ashwin should be brought back as there are a few matchups vs New Zealand for him to exploit.

4. What is the role of Hardik Pandya in this team? Is he in the team just to bat in final 3-4 overs? Is his batting form any good in these conditions? Ishan Kishan is capable of striking the bowl too and he can be looked as option.

5. Why play both Bhuvi and Shami? It has to be only one of them and Shardul should be third pacer because he has knack of taking wickets and breaking partnerships. The Goldern Arm was missed in the game vs Pakistan.

The only Ind bowler that worried me was Bumrah and he bowled OK but the rest were very average

 

[Rana]

Dropping Kishan was a huge blunder

They should draft him in for the next game over Hardik

Also Thakur for Bhuvaneshwar.

Maybe Ashwin for Varun as well

 

[NishanKonar]

Whatever happened to those LoI spinners we were developing? Kuladeep? Chahal?

Why are we reverting to Ashwin and Jadeja?

Varun deserves another chance - very harsh to judge him after i match under heavy dew

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Wouldn't change a whole lot. Toss plays a major role and as Kohli said we couldnt make those extra runs because of an incredible couple of overs from Shaheen.

Even this Pakistan attack got smashed by Van der dussen when SA batted 2nd. When you have the toss factor against you , you need to be spot on while executing your plans and hope you et a bit of luck. Nothing else an be done

 

[NishanKonar]

Since Siraj is actually not in the 15 man squad - are you assuming that Pandya will be out on injury and Siraj will come in as replacement?

Pandya injured his arm - so we can swap him for Siraj

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

If ashwin wasn't injured how india can miss him in such an important match.

Rahul is great bat no doubt it was shaheen he outclass rahul. That delivery was unplayable. I dont see any problems with top order.

 

[the Great Khan]

this is for indian fans, i felt the bowling attack looked a bit long in the tooth for the t20 format. what changes would people envision?

 

[IMMY69]

Wouldn't change a whole lot. Toss plays a major role and as Kohli said we couldnt make those extra runs because of an incredible couple of overs from Shaheen.

Even this Pakistan attack got smashed by Van der dussen when SA batted 2nd. When you have the toss factor against you , you need to be spot on while executing your plans and hope you et a bit of luck. Nothing else an be done

That was a warm up game and I said at the time that nothing should be read into it.

 

[oatmeal]

Pandya has to go. Bhuvi is just not good enough either

 

[Nikhil_cric]

That was a warm up game and I said at the time that nothing should be read into it.

I saw both games and what was immediately apparent is that the ball came on much better in the 2nd innings in the night. This has been mentioned by many experts too.

 

[Lego20]

We have never done well against Kiwis at ICC events. I expect India to lose and pack up. Its tiring anyways. Has been a great long IPL season this year.

 

[Uzi]

Is Vinay Kumar still playing? If so, I feel India missed a trick by not selecting him. Solid bowler and would have been light years ahead of Bhuvi and Shami.

 

[Savak]

The Indian team didn't really look up for it. Perhaps too much cricket and post IPL fatigue and bubble fatigue might be catching up now. Having a decent amount of rest before such a big tournament is a big plus

 

[rhony]

I think BK will be out and Shardul Thakur will be back. Dude was bowling 125 kph and it's not enough. The nature of the format means India can claw their way back with a win against NZ. Ashwin could be back too instead of that newbie spinner.

 

[Itachi]

Bhuvi should be dropped.

Chakraborty should be dropped. He might be a legendary bowler (according to a few people) but if dew will be a factor, no worth playing a legendary bowler who will be 1% of who he is.

Kl Rahul should be dropped to 4. Rohit and Rahul brings the same dynamics and they shouldn't be playing together as openers. Both have similar strength and similar weaknesses. If one goes out, more or less, you can assume that the other will be returning to pavilion too.

Pandeys role is not known to anyone.

Kohli has to fire atleast one time in world cup matches. He has been a failure in all world cups and I doubt it will change. His leadership doesn't inspire in T20.

Lots of issues in the T20 team.

 

[JattMaula]

Bhuvi out Thakur in.

 

[shehz]

Is it me that felt that India fielders were little sluggish or slow? Could it be the high intensity of IPL took a heavy toll on them? Man you guys have some amazing options , can't believe Ashwin , Kishan, chahal couldn't find a spot in playing 11 and actually contemplating dropping Pandya even before the match. Sometimes having too many options or collection of superstars can backfire. I still think India is one of the most dangerous team but now margin of error is very thin.

 

[sweep_shot]

If Pakistan beat New Zealand, India-NZ game may become like a quarter-final.

I feel Bhuvi should be dropped.

 

[K4Kohli]

Thakur replacing Bhuvi. I wish Tyagi is in the team along with Bumrah. Shami is not a T20 bowler. Ishan should replace Pandya and play at 4

 

[happydavy]

I had mentioned in another thread y'day that the only silver lining with India possibly selecting Bhuvi against Pakistan would be that he would get exposed and replaced by 2nd match.

 

[PerfectionPersonified]

Ashwin for Chakerverthy and Thakur for Pandya

Thats what India need

 

[happydavy]

Bhuvi should be dropped.

Chakraborty should be dropped. He might be a legendary bowler (according to a few people) but if dew will be a factor, no worth playing a legendary bowler who will be 1% of who he is.

Lots of issues in the T20 team.

Only fools can call Varun a good bowler let alone legendary bowler. He's 30+ yrs old, has sum total of 60 wickets across all formats domestic and international. I don't know any 30 yrs old with 60 wickets, who would ever get to play international cricket for any team baring India.

 

[Itachi]

Only fools can call Varun a good bowler let alone legendary bowler. He's 30+ yrs old, has sum total of 60 wickets across all formats domestic and international. I don't know any 30 yrs old with 60 wickets, who would ever get to play international cricket for any team baring India.

Most people are defending him. I would have understood had he been a 19-20 years old bowler but he's 30+. Not a long terms prospect and out of no where brought in. I would have even accepted venkatpathy Raju over him. Or even Rajesh Chouhan.

 

[NishanKonar]

Only fools can call Varun a good bowler let alone legendary bowler. He's 30+ yrs old, has sum total of 60 wickets across all formats domestic and international. I don't know any 30 yrs old with 60 wickets, who would ever get to play international cricket for any team baring India.

Nobody is saying Varun is legendary bowler. But he can be effective bowler in these conditions

 

[MP2011]

Sky isn't good enough to be termed a specialist bat.

However the problem for us just like last ODI WC is that we don't have any other specialist batsman in the squad.

The only other 'specialist' bat Pandya is injured too.

 

[MP2011]

We need to beef up our batting, no questions about that even though our bowlers too didn't take a single wicket in their last outing.

Jadeja is also someone who is way too overrated on the basis of his exploits in IPL. Not good enough for international T20s.

 

[baggy blue]

we have an old and boring side now. this is a good 50 over team not t20. we could have added ishan kishan, prithvi shaw, padikkal, natarajan. we should have prepared them for the wc.

 

[Varun]

Pandya batted all of 2 overs, snapped his shoulder and couldn't bowl even before the tournament started.

Useless. We might as well have been playing with 10 men.

 

[MP2011]

Pandya batted all of 2 overs, snapped his shoulder and couldn't bowl even before the tournament started.

Useless. We might as well have been playing with 10 men.

Pandya has always been useless ever since I know him, notwithstanding 1 or 2 performances here and there.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I saw both games and what was immediately apparent is that the ball came on much better in the 2nd innings in the night. This has been mentioned by many experts too.

Dew really took effect in the 2nd half of the Pakistan innings, but by that time the damage had been done. India’s new ball bowling was appalling to say the least. They needed to strike early, but their seamers were feeding Rizwan and Babar buffet balls in their zones.

 

[MP2011]

Btw, Pandya is another one of those useless selections from Kohli's stable.

 

[Mobashir]

Ishan Kishan is definitly playing the next match as they will want more left handers against the spin duo of Santner and Sodhi.

 

[MP2011]

Must say, feeding too much on MI's success in IPL has also been counter-productive for us in T20s. Just because they've done well in IPL doesn't mean that success will be replicated in international T20 arena too.

 

[Oligochaetes]

I wonder...

Why was Hardik in the team?
What do Indians see in Bhuvi?
Why don't Indian team management recognize Thakur?
Why is Ashwin consistently out of the playing XI?
Why is Rohit consistently underperforming since Virat resigned from captaincy?
Why is SKy in the playing XI despite failing in the IPL on same pitches?

India can still qualify for the next round from here. So there is still time to sort out whatever backroom issues there are...

But doesn anyone have confidence in Virat's captaincy anymore?

 

[Oligochaetes]

Bhuvi got 6 wickets in 11 games in the IPL... WHy is he in the T20 squad? Thakur has 21 in 16 games?

I just cannot understand ..


Also, Hardik scored 127 runs in 11 innings in IPL..

 

[pakistani pride]

I saw both games and what was immediately apparent is that the ball came on much better in the 2nd innings in the night. This has been mentioned by many experts too.

Of course it plays a role, conditions always play a role in cricket.
But give credit where its due. Pak won for the 1st and India lost for the 1st by 10 wickets.

The opening spell by Shaheen was world class. The only way Pak could win was by striking with the new ball, to remove both India openers the way he did, deserves so much praise.

On the thread, I expect India to win all the remaining games and perhaps still top the table.

 

[globalcitizen]

Looking at squad reserves not Looking great now so with availability this needs to happen.

Few things clear now, top order needs to be separated and need lower order strong hitting and finishing.
In absence of hardik, I will choose rahul to play finisher and go with a spin heavy squad.
I would prefer alrounders in t20 rather than specialists

Rohit
Kishan
Kohli
Pant
Rahul
Jadeja
Thakur
Ashwin
Bhuvi/Shami/Deepak
Varun
Bumrah

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Of course it plays a role, conditions always play a role in cricket.
But give credit where its due. Pak won for the 1st and India lost for the 1st by 10 wickets.

The opening spell by Shaheen was world class. The only way Pak could win was by striking with the new ball, to remove both India openers the way he did, deserves so much praise.

On the thread, I expect India to win all the remaining games and perhaps still top the table.

Came here to post this. If Indian openers are allowed to settle, the Indian team becomes completely different. From whatever losses I've seen India face in the last 10 years it was always when their top order was blown away. Amir did that, Boult and Henry did that and now Shaheen repeated it. That's why Shaheen should be commended for that incisive and decisive 3 overs which defeated India before the match barely began.

 

[street cricketer]

Came here to post this. If Indian openers are allowed to settle, the Indian team becomes completely different. From whatever losses I've seen India face in the last 10 years it was always when their top order was blown away. Amir did that, Boult and Henry did that and now Shaheen repeated it. That's why Shaheen should be commended for that incisive and decisive 3 overs which defeated India before the match barely began.

All three against left arm seamers.

Indian batsmen have a distinct weakness against left arm seamers.

 

[sam_ahm]

Kishan in for Pandya, Ashwin for Varun, and Thakur for Bhuvi

 

[UzmanBeast]

India has a big problem with its team balance.

There is an absence of batting all-rounders. Someone like a Suresh Raina would have been the perfect final touch to the team or even someone like a Yuvraj Singh.

Let's assume Hardik Pandya is injured and a replacement player can be called. There's a few options in the country that I know who can fit into the role of a lower-order batsman:
1.) Nitish Rana - LHB and RA off-spinner, could be good for the conditions.
2.) Shivam Dube - LHB and RA medium-pacer, he's a bit over-rated but could be decent considering the conditions.
3.) Rahul Tewatia - LHB and RA leg-spinner, could also be a good choice considering his economical bowling style.

I don't know if they're even allowed to bring in a replacement if Hardik Pandya is injured, but those would be among my choices if possible.

I don't know the rules for the reserve players either, but if one player can come into the main squad, I'd take Shreyas Iyer.

I'd play the following team against NZ:

Rohit Sharma (vc)
Ishan Kishan
Virat Kohli (c)
KL Rahul
Shreyas Iyer
Rishabh Pant
Ravindra Jadeja
Shardul Thakur
Rahul Chahar
Jasprit Bumrah
Mohammad Shami

 

[battler]

this is for indian fans, i felt the bowling attack looked a bit long in the tooth for the t20 format. what changes would people envision?

Thakur in for Bhuvi, Kishan in for Pandya. I don't know if replacing Chakravarthy with Ashwin is going to make any difference

 

[battler]

Playing 3 spinners against Nz could be a good option especially if he we bowl first.
We could go in with this

Rohit
Kishan
Kohli
SKY
Rahul
Pant
Thakur
Jadeja
Ashwin
Bumrah
Chakravarthy

 

[shamaan]

India need a 6th bowling option that's what they lacking at the moment

 

[Justcrazy]

Thakur and Ishan would come in.

Bhuvi and Pandya would be out.

 

[Mahee]

no changes needed....the only change that's needed is our panauti captain winning the toss.

 

[Ab Fan]

no changes needed....the only change that's needed is our panauti captain winning the toss.

Get the golden arm in. Popularly known as Beefy among his teammates, the man can do nothing wrong.

 

[RexRex]

It seems like everybody here wants Hardik Pandya out of the team. It was cringey to watch him slogging like a child missing everything .. he is very much a touch player.

India should have never dropped Ishan Kishan from the lineup. He is the future along with Venkatesh Iyer.

 

[PakLFC]

Yes. India should ask Dhoni to come out of retirement even if he doesn't take the gloves.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

No need for changes, an Email to the NZ team should suffice.

 

[happydavy]

Varun deserves another chance - very harsh to judge him after i match under heavy dew

very lucky for him to play international cricket at 30 yrs age with no first class record and with fitness of a 40 yrs old man. The guy got into the team on the back of reality show types sob story of how poor i was that i was struggling for meals and IPL changed my life. The story then would get amplified by the likes of Harsha Bhogle who will say that 5 times a day of how IPL changes life and the rest of the country lap up the sobbing stories and shed tears.

 

[silentkiller187]

Shardul Thakur needs to be in this team, cant believe kohli chose his brown nosers hardik pandya and even varun ahead of shardul, proved how useful he is with ball and bat against england in tests and in ipl

 

[bluevision]

How did Varun C. managed to earn that India cap! A mystery indeed, but certainly not his bowling.
This team is old, conservative and boring. 30 should be the upper age limit for Indian t20i team with so many red-hot young prospects in line.

Considering limited options we have for this tourney-
Pandu, BK, VC out
Ishaan, Thakur,Ashwin in.
+
Send someone else for the toss in place of VK.