Indian military claims that IAF MiG-21 shot down Pakistani F-16

[Badsha]

If an f 16 was used pakitan is going to be in trouble becuase we are not allowed to use that offensively.

You'll see it in the coming days. There will be no trouble and the dust will clear that no f 16 was used just like how India bombed trees and not camps.

 

[Jin Chacha]

Amidst all the misinformation going around, I'd like to wait to hear the Wg Co's version after his release...

Don't think he will be saying anything in the media. Maybe politically correct generic statements but really doubt he will reveal any details about what really happened.

 

[pillionrider]

Just watched that terribly managed press con. So they held up some scraps which allegedly can only be loaded on an F16. I have no idea whether this is true or not but it would be terrible if these guys are getting basic facts wrong.

The entire purpose of this conference seemed to be to confirm that F16s were used. More than really claiming downing one of them, though that was mentioned too.

 

[Madplayer]

Just watched that terribly managed press con. So they held up some scraps which allegedly can only be loaded on an F16. I have no idea whether this is true or not but it would be terrible if these guys are getting basic facts wrong.

The entire purpose of this conference seemed to be to confirm that F16s were used. More than really claiming downing one of them, though that was mentioned too.

And no mention of proof of killing 350 in Pakistan.

 

[pillionrider]

And no mention of proof of killing 350 in Pakistan.

Did this figure pop out of the Indian media or did the IAF ever claim this. Not sure.

Today he mentioned clearly that they don't have an estimate of how many were killed. He used an interesting term - effect. The effect that we desired was achieved.

 

[PetroDollars]

Just watched that terribly managed press con. So they held up some scraps which allegedly can only be loaded on an F16. I have no idea whether this is true or not but it would be terrible if these guys are getting basic facts wrong.

The entire purpose of this conference seemed to be to confirm that F16s were used. More than really claiming downing one of them, though that was mentioned too.

if that was the intention of th press con then it was a major fail, india is trying to hide one lie with another which is leading to lies after lies, someone just needs to come out and clear the whole thing up and tell us that modi had planned a false flag op to kill his own army so he could conduct fake surgical strikes for his election victory, otherwise the indian army is going to come up with another series of lies and its becoming embarrasing now. especially in this day and age how they lie with fake pics.

 

[Varun]

Just watched that sorry excuse of a press conference. The naval guy and the army person held their ends all fine, but...

The IAF are a security threat to India in their current form - in the air and on the ground.

 

[Madplayer]

Did this figure pop out of the Indian media or did the IAF ever claim this. Not sure.

Today he mentioned clearly that they don't have an estimate of how many were killed. He used an interesting term - effect. The effect that we desired was achieved.

Okay but he didnt talk about proof of that.

 

[Sirris]

Just watched that terribly managed press con. So they held up some scraps which allegedly can only be loaded on an F16. I have no idea whether this is true or not but it would be terrible if these guys are getting basic facts wrong.

The entire purpose of this conference seemed to be to confirm that F16s were used. More than really claiming downing one of them, though that was mentioned too.

As an Indian I would be bothered by the fact that regarding the targeting of terror camp the only aswer repeatedly given was "we achieved what we intended to do" without elaborating what the intended purpose was.

 

[Hitman]

 

[cric_man]

American weapon systems on Chinese/Russian jets. Ok

We had mated AIM-9Bs on Chinese F-6s (Mig19s) back in 1968.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Zee News actually ran a picture of F-16 Naswar to prove their point. Unbelievable! <a href="https://t.co/88sRf2OEmD">pic.twitter.com/88sRf2OEmD</a></p>— Iftikhar Firdous (@IftikharFirdous) <a href="https://twitter.com/IftikharFirdous/status/1101157284451893248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[pillionrider]

As an Indian I would be bothered by the fact that regarding the targeting of terror camp the only aswer repeatedly given was "we achieved what we intended to do" without elaborating what the intended purpose was.

One of my theories early on was that they had some intel but when they got there, they found nothing, either because the folks they were after had moved shop or the intel was wrong or they had to head back before Pak got ready.

Anyway, voices have already started out asking for some sort of evidence and eventually the truth must come out. Making Uri-2 won't be good enough.

 

[PakPremi]

According to NDTV reports 24 Pak planes were in a battle with 8 Indian planes.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Indians all over Twitter.

Zaid Hamid has blocked a few who questioned him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nice try, Zaid Bhai. But that’s <a href="https://twitter.com/Raytheon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Raytheon</a>’s code for that particular production lot. Missiles from that lot could be supplied to multiple recipients, including Taiwan & Pakistan: <a href="https://t.co/LoWFWIFIL0">https://t.co/LoWFWIFIL0</a> <a href="https://t.co/HzA8SVDdsG">https://t.co/HzA8SVDdsG</a></p>— Shiv Aroor (@ShivAroor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/1101189903633793026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You need Extensive Source code of both Radar and missile seeker neither of which you have. <br><br>Eg: IAF wants meteor for its Su30mki, EU refused to give source code, hence IAF can't do anything even though Rafales will have meteor. i hope this clears your doubts.</p>— Sgt (@MickeyHarkeerat) <a href="https://twitter.com/MickeyHarkeerat/status/1101156715310055425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The thing is that every claim has a counter point..which has another counter point...which has yet another counter point.

Unless you are super knowledgeable, it's impossible to have a discussion.

Can someone solve this complex equation and tell us the final answer?

 

[JaDed]

Indians all over Twitter.

Zaid Hamid has blocked a few who questioned him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nice try, Zaid Bhai. But that’s <a href="https://twitter.com/Raytheon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Raytheon</a>’s code for that particular production lot. Missiles from that lot could be supplied to multiple recipients, including Taiwan & Pakistan: <a href="https://t.co/LoWFWIFIL0">https://t.co/LoWFWIFIL0</a> <a href="https://t.co/HzA8SVDdsG">https://t.co/HzA8SVDdsG</a></p>— Shiv Aroor (@ShivAroor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/1101189903633793026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You need Extensive Source code of both Radar and missile seeker neither of which you have. <br><br>Eg: IAF wants meteor for its Su30mki, EU refused to give source code, hence IAF can't do anything even though Rafales will have meteor. i hope this clears your doubts.</p>— Sgt (@MickeyHarkeerat) <a href="https://twitter.com/MickeyHarkeerat/status/1101156715310055425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The thing is that every claim has a counter point..which has another counter point...which has yet another counter point.

Unless you are super knowledgeable, it's impossible to have a discussion.

Can someone solve this complex equation and tell us the final answer?

Lockheed Martin and their analysts would love some clarity as well.

 

[PakPremi]

On Aaj Tap news when a congress spokesman embarrassed the presenter Rahul with a BJP letter confirming that a strike in Pakistan would boost Modi rating by 20 percent for election. He had no answer and went into break. No doubt all this drama was for the Election.

 

[AFM]

 

[CricVet]

According to NDTV reports 24 Pak planes were in a battle with 8 Indian planes.

Why would PAF send 24 fighters even if they meant to attack some country? Only Indian media can report such a hogwash.

 

[finalfantasy7]

Oh God hahahahahahahah

madplayer can you add the link to youtube for the same video

 

[PakPremi]

Actually the comment was made by some BJB party member that with Air Strike 22 out 28 seats would be theirs.

 

[PakPremi]

Why would PAF send 24 fighters even if they meant to attack some country? Only Indian media can report such a hogwash.

I know it is In just pointing out that in I dia they do not have any consistency even between different TV channels. NDTV all experts are towing the 24vs 8 plane line,whereas on Aaj Tak they are not talking about 24 planes but just the F16 use by Pak.

 

[last_knight]

I know it is In just pointing out that in I dia they do not have any consistency even between different TV channels. NDTV all experts are towing the 24vs 8 plane line,whereas on Aaj Tak they are not talking about 24 planes but just the F16 use by Pak.

If F-16 statement, true or false, is official from India; they are indirectly involving and questioning USA here. In their war hysteria, India is treading on very sensitive line now.

There are some other factors that can not be ignored in current situation. Afghanistan govt will complete its term in 2/3 months and there are going to be elections in about 5 months time. This is the critical time period when Taliban have been demanding two party dialogues (Taliban+Americans), instead of previous three party meetings (Taliban+Americans+ Afghan Govt) and Trump has actually entertained their demand of two party dialogues and it was moving in right direction. This probably was best chance for peace in Afghanistan. Pakistan was playing its role in it and Americans were appreciating it.

Modi tried his misadventure at the worst possible time for him.

Also, can't rule out anti-america forces to be backing up India behind the doors. That's where I think F-16 angle is coming from.

 

[Bilal7]

Indians all over Twitter.

Zaid Hamid has blocked a few who questioned him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nice try, Zaid Bhai. But that’s <a href="https://twitter.com/Raytheon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Raytheon</a>’s code for that particular production lot. Missiles from that lot could be supplied to multiple recipients, including Taiwan & Pakistan: <a href="https://t.co/LoWFWIFIL0">https://t.co/LoWFWIFIL0</a> <a href="https://t.co/HzA8SVDdsG">https://t.co/HzA8SVDdsG</a></p>— Shiv Aroor (@ShivAroor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/1101189903633793026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You need Extensive Source code of both Radar and missile seeker neither of which you have. <br><br>Eg: IAF wants meteor for its Su30mki, EU refused to give source code, hence IAF can't do anything even though Rafales will have meteor. i hope this clears your doubts.</p>— Sgt (@MickeyHarkeerat) <a href="https://twitter.com/MickeyHarkeerat/status/1101156715310055425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The thing is that every claim has a counter point..which has another counter point...which has yet another counter point.

Unless you are super knowledgeable, it's impossible to have a discussion.

Can someone solve this complex equation and tell us the final answer?

The final answer is that your armed forces are lying out of their teeth. They have no evidence of killing a "large number of terrorists" or downing a F-16. The only piece of "evidence" they have is the salvage of a missile that could be used on the jets that the Pakistanis claim they used in their mission.

The truth is pretty obvious once you put all the pieces together. You don't need to be an expert on the Pak army to figure it out.

 

[Realromeo]

Indian Military is is instructed to construct lies. It is pretty obvious but to thick mob.

Indian Army, yes. This is the first time IAF is claiming something like this. If it is not true, I would go crazy. This is seriously messed up. IAF had the highest regard in the Indian military. I want to believe IAF but at the moment, I'm not ready to.

 

[waqar goraya]

Will ISPR also do a presser to deny Indian narrative?

 

[Bilal7]

Indian Army, yes. This is the first time IAF is claiming something like this. If it is not true, I would go crazy. This is seriously messed up. IAF had the highest regard in the Indian military. I want to believe IAF but at the moment, I'm not ready to.

What can the IAF do when the other armed forces all want to push a certain narrative? Also, the IAF had initially said that all of its pilots were "accounted for". That turned out to be a lie, didn't it?

 

[gazza619]

That awkward moment when tps is more busy than cf

I have a feeling the Indian government will continue to take stupid steps to ensure it stays busy

 

[WebGuru]

Indian media was using this picture in their shows earlier to show it as a Pak F16. Well these 2 pics of same crash shows ke haqeeqat kia he just see them with an open mind.

And here is a Pic of an intact Mig21 for reference.

 

[Suleiman]

So what about the pilot who was in it? Surely his well being if he is okay or not and his whereabouts will settle this.

If this was true then he’d be celebrated as a hero in Pak.

 

[WebGuru]

Here is link to larger version of pic i posted above so you can see in zoom in.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0hX1rOXcAQLXWM?format=jpg&name=large

 

[sshakir411]

So the wreckage of the plane disappeared in to space? You need to be on some serious kind of acid to believe that. Show us the wreckage just like we did with your plane and pilot.

 

[sshakir411]

Even Iran shared the US drone they downed and Pakistan shared the helicopter Americans left behind after OBL..the helicopter was actually detonated with bombs but there was still big wreckage...Indians don’t even have a wheel lol

 

[rhony]

I think the story lies in between. The key is the second pilot that Pak announced they caught. Even Imran said two pilots were caught and one was in the hospital during his speech.

I think India hit a Pakistani jet but it's not F16. That jet landed in Pakistan and because of the hoopla with Abhi's capture, there was a confusion that the other pilot was Indian too. In the mean time, Pakistan announced that they have 2 POWs. Indians had no leverage and proof. So they went with the F16 story.

 

[slipcatch]

Just came back from some work and I am now hearing new stuff reg this.

I have to go check up.

Post all the tweets, pics, data in here guys.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Parts of AMRAAM missile fired by PAK F16 jet shown by IAF. Batteries and other parts also shown. Conclusively shows f16 used, nailing PAK lies says IAF <a href="https://twitter.com/EconomicTimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EconomicTimes</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ETDefence?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ETDefence</a> <a href="https://t.co/CZrNuH3FYH">pic.twitter.com/CZrNuH3FYH</a></p>— Shaurya K Gurung (@GurungShauryaET) <a href="https://twitter.com/GurungShauryaET/status/1101120457342881792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Visuals of cover of AARAM missile fired from Pakistani F-16 aircraft found near the LoC in India <a href="https://t.co/qHdOm5cDqN">pic.twitter.com/qHdOm5cDqN</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1101118888375451650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Numbers on the box are written with a sharpie marker.

We all understand India need something to feel good about this politically orchestrated adventure by radicalized extremists bhakth PM.

But come on, have you all lost it?

 

[slipcatch]

I think the story lies in between. The key is the second pilot that Pak announced they caught. Even Imran said two pilots were caught and one was in the hospital during his speech.

I think India hit a Pakistani jet but it's not F16. That jet landed in Pakistan and because of the hoopla with Abhi's capture, there was a confusion that the other pilot was Indian too. In the mean time, Pakistan announced that they have 2 POWs. Indians had no leverage and proof. So they went with the F16 story.

Doesn’t matter what you think or anyone spemding all day trying to convince themselves and other of something that does not exist.

Pak provided evidence and corrected themselves after initial comments with evidence.

India has provided no evidence yet.

 

[rhony]

I think the story lies in between. The key is the second pilot that Pak announced they caught. Even Imran said two pilots were caught and one was in the hospital during his speech.

I think India hit a Pakistani jet but it's not F16. That jet landed in Pakistan and because of the hoopla with Abhi's capture, there was a confusion that the other pilot was Indian too. In the mean time, Pakistan announced that they have 2 POWs. Indians had no leverage and proof. So they went with the F16 story.

Alternate theory is Pak crashed two Indian jets. One of the pilots was killed by the locals. Pak didn't want to own it and India didn't want to own another jet being down. So the story was changed despite Imran's claim.

 

[ahsan17]

For a state that lied about the surgical strikes in 2016 and the airstrikes just a few days ago, this lie lines up perfectly with the trend.

 

[rhony]

Doesn’t matter what you think or anyone spemding all day trying to convince themselves and other of something that does not exist.

Pak provided evidence and corrected themselves after initial comments with evidence.

India has provided no evidence yet.

It's not fishermen caught while catching fish in Pakistani waters to be confused with numbers. It's not 100 pilots that crashed too. It's just 1 or 2. There is no correction after announcing something like this by a PM. It's just change in tactics.

 

[slipcatch]

It's not fishermen caught while catching fish in Pakistani waters to be confused with numbers. It's not 100 pilots that crashed too. It's just 1 or 2. There is no correction after announcing something like this by a PM. It's just change in tactics.

Whatevet help you sleep in peace after an embarrassment provided by radicalized extremists Bhakths PM.

Provide an evidence or stop wasting time.

So far nothing has been shown from Indian side.

You seem like a reasonable person let’s not get caught in false and negative patriotism/nationalism.

Instead of convincing Pakistani about something that doesn’t exist you should be spending time asking your nation’s PM for evidence and explanation of why Indian soldiers had to die for his political adventure?

 

[rhony]

Whatevet help you sleep in peace after an embarrassment provided by radicalized extremists Bhakths PM.

Provide an evidence or stop wasting time.

So far nothing has been shown from Indian side.

You seem like a reasonable person let’s not get caught in false and negative patriotism/nationalism.

Instead of convincing Pakistani about something that doesn’t exist you should be spending time asking your nation’s PM for evidence and explanation of why Indian soldiers had to die for his political adventure?

Dude, I'm on an online forum debating with people on a bunch of issues that interest and fascinate me. My theories are based on my observations. That's about it. I'm not a citizen of either country, never been.

 

[slipcatch]

Dude, I'm on an online forum debating with people on a bunch of issues that interest and fascinate me. My theories are based on my observations. That's about it. I'm not a citizen of either country, never been.

You aren’t just a person debating because there is no debate without evidence.

And you had to have roots to either country otherwise there wouldn’t be bias.

Provide evidence if there is one as Pakistan did.

 

[rhony]

You aren’t just a person debating because there is no debate without evidence.

And you had to have roots to either country otherwise there wouldn’t be bias.

Provide evidence if there is one as Pakistan did.

There is very little evidence except for the pilot"s capture. Every theory otherwise is a speculation.

 

[rhony]

You aren’t just a person debating because there is no debate without evidence.

And you had to have roots to either country otherwise there wouldn’t be bias.

Provide evidence if there is one as Pakistan did.

There is very little evidence except for the pilot"s capture. Every theory otherwise is a speculation.

 

[slipcatch]

There is very little evidence except for the pilot"s capture. Every theory otherwise is a speculation.

No!

Pakistan has provided ample amount of evidence to support their claim.

You’re being hypothetical to create doubts just like Indian government to safe themselves from further embarrassment.

Either provide an evidence or hush up and accept the facts of the events.

There is no debates about facts, facts are facts.

No such thing as alternative facts.

 

[cririri]

I am in search of truth so don't mind any outcome.

1. Ok so what if missile misses the target? Can't it be found anyway?

2. What about the pic above with F16 serial number and Pak people around it? What's that?

3. Pak officially claimed 2-3 pilots found but then changed it to 1. Why so may I ask? IAF never backtracked.

4. Yesterday in Hindu (not your typical crazy news site), I read about defense officials mention about f16 in anonymity. They never named the flight in prev press conference. If they had to lie, they could hav in the prev press conference no? Right now they have openly claimed the F16 part.

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Just wondering.

The second pilots probably died,they were saying that he was injure and if the early vids going on the net were authentic,he was injure quite badly,pak had already plan to give back the prisoners ect that's why they put videos of the army treating him well ect so saying we have killed one of your pilots kind of nullify everything ik is doing right now.
Those "proofs" are nothing,if anything it just proves that we really attack your aircrafts(anti missile bits,these can be use in jf 17 too),actually depending on the location it can gives more credit to the pak version saying there was 2 aircraft destroyed.
Anyway everybody believes what he wants to believe.

 

[cririri]

It's not fishermen caught while catching fish in Pakistani waters to be confused with numbers. It's not 100 pilots that crashed too. It's just 1 or 2. There is no correction after announcing something like this by a PM. It's just change in tactics.

Meh simple pak wanted to play the peace/deescalation card,the other pilot was probably badly injured and he probably died from it which wasn't good for this.

 

[iRfaN_LA]

Its called face saving measures. Indian army has just faced a major embarrassment as their pilot has been caught with his plane crashed, undeniable proof. Now they are just trying to do some propaganda to attract some attention. More lies and no proof.

 

[anand99]

This has to be one of the most woefully inadequate displays of strength by a joint chiefs in a press conference. Nothing they said actually can give Indians any confidence that they are safe with these guys on the watch. They just happened to spot a squadron of 24 aircraft 10km before they entered Indian airspace????

 

[sjahmed23]

Saying they were attacked by Pakistan's indegenous JF17 would add too much salt to injury.

 

[Realromeo]

What can the IAF do when the other armed forces all want to push a certain narrative? Also, the IAF had initially said that all of its pilots were "accounted for". That turned out to be a lie, didn't it?

IAF prided itself on the way it conducted itself. Anyone part of IAF was taken care of very well. Corruption, nepotism and lies were zilch. Opposite of Indian Army. IAF couldn't be influenced in the past. Not sure what the heck is going on.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The second pilots probably died,they were saying that he was injure and if the early vids going on the net were authentic,he was injure quite badly,pak had already plan to give back the prisoners ect that's why they put videos of the army treating him well ect so saying we have killed one of your pilots kind of nullify everything ik is doing right now.
Those "proofs" are nothing,if anything it just proves that we really attack your aircrafts(anti missile bits,these can be use in jf 17 too),actually depending on the location it can gives more credit to the pak version saying there was 2 aircraft destroyed.
Anyway everybody believes what he wants to believe.

Ok he died.

Where is the body? It has to be returned back.

Officially Pak said they captured 2 pilots. Then 1. What happ to the second one?

Do let me know too.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Ok he died.

Where is the body? It has to be returned back.

Officially Pak said they captured 2 pilots. Then 1. What happ to the second one?

Do let me know too.

Both India and Pakistan are being childish here, both trying to prove their point in certain situations but got ZERO Proof....

 

[MenInG]

Ok he died.

Where is the body? It has to be returned back.

Officially Pak said they captured 2 pilots. Then 1. What happ to the second one?

Do let me know too.

Pakistan can claim anything they want as can India - and its possible that the plane was damaged and assumed to have crashed.

There is NO proof so far apart from the Mig 21.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Pakistan can claim anything they want as can India - and its possible that the plane was damaged and assumed to have crashed.

There is NO proof so far apart from the Mig 21.

That's true. One mig 21 down is the only proof as of now.

Since Pak officially claimed capturing 2 Indian pilots and then changed to 1, questions arise as to who that other pilot was?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Both India and Pakistan are being childish here, both trying to prove their point in certain situations but got ZERO Proof....

You know what's hilarious and sad....

Invading eah other's airspace...piece of cake.

Fact checking claims.....super super hard.

This is really sad. We shouldn't have to debate so much on what is the truth.

 

[cricketjoshila]

After Pulwama terror attack.

Indian airforce enters Pakistan and drops bombs near Balakot. Official casualties unknown

Pakistan in retaliation tries to enter Indian air space and is intercepted. India loses a Mig 21, PAF loses a aircraft. Indian Pilot made PoW and is being released within 48hrs due to diplomatic pressure.

Pakistan forced to close its entire air space and declare blackouts at cities like Karachi.

India closes 4 airports for few hours, life goes on as usual in all major cities.

So for Pakistan, supporting these terrorist groups to attack India is not going to be a cheap low cost option going ahead. Thats the paradigm shift. This even though India has not de escalated and pak airspace is still partially closed.

 

[Adijazz1706]

After Pulwama terror attack.

Indian airforce enters Pakistan and drops bombs near Balakot. Official casualties unknown

Pakistan in retaliation tries to enter Indian air space and is intercepted. India loses a Mig 21, PAF loses a aircraft. Indian Pilot made PoW and is being released within 48hrs due to diplomatic pressure.

Pakistan forced to close its entire air space and declare blackouts at cities like Karachi.

India closes 4 airports for few hours, life goes on as usual in all major cities.

So for Pakistan, supporting these terrorist groups to attack India is not going to be a cheap low cost option going ahead. Thats the paradigm shift. This even though India has not de escalated and pak airspace is still partially closed.

No sources, just claims. Only concrete thing we have is a downed Indian jet and a captured Indian pilot

 

[Hermoine Green]

After Pulwama terror attack.

Indian airforce enters Pakistan and drops bombs near Balakot. Official casualties unknown

Pakistan in retaliation tries to enter Indian air space and is intercepted. India loses a Mig 21, PAF loses a aircraft. Indian Pilot made PoW and is being released within 48hrs due to diplomatic pressure.

Pakistan forced to close its entire air space and declare blackouts at cities like Karachi.

India closes 4 airports for few hours, life goes on as usual in all major cities.

So for Pakistan, supporting these terrorist groups to attack India is not going to be a cheap low cost option going ahead. Thats the paradigm shift. This even though India has not de escalated and pak airspace is still partially closed.

Official casualties are some terrorist trees are Shaheed. Proved by Foreign media also now. And India also failed to deliver proofs / satellite images which they were going to provide yesterday.

No Pak air craft went down, again the lie exposed badly (By neutral also)

Diplomatic pressure + a good step for a peace ( which obviously you dont want to acknowledge )

Blackout in Malir Cantt area, not the whole Karachi.

Airspace was partially closed and same goes for India.

So for India, dis-respecting Pakistan's boundary won't go down well again and again they will face loss plus humiliation.

Now you will ask me to give sources for every claim which i made, i am really busy right now so i would say it's sometimes better to search other sources rather than Tiranga media and sometimes it's better to use brain cells.

Lastly, India don't want to de escalate, perfectly allright. Try again harder and inshAllah again India will face humiliation.

 

[Hermoine Green]

No sources, just claims. Only concrete thing we have is a downed Indian jet and a captured Indian pilot

This is what we can call media transparency. IF there is something, whole world sees it. Like we have shown.

On the other side there are only false cliams which have been debunked by whole world.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No sources, just claims. Only concrete thing we have is a downed Indian jet and a captured Indian pilot

Read the DG ISPR statements. Except the PAF fighter loss, rest all are facts accepted by Pakistan.

Btw the IAF pilot is coming home. Pakistan could keep him for 48hrs or so.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Official casualties are some terrorist trees are Shaheed. Proved by Foreign media also now. And India also failed to deliver proofs / satellite images which they were going to provide yesterday.

No Pak air craft went down, again the lie exposed badly (By neutral also)

Diplomatic pressure + a good step for a peace ( which obviously you dont want to acknowledge )

Blackout in Malir Cantt area, not the whole Karachi.

Airspace was partially closed and same goes for India.

So for India, dis-respecting Pakistan's boundary won't go down well again and again they will face loss plus humiliation.

Now you will ask me to give sources for every claim which i made, i am really busy right now so i would say it's sometimes better to search other sources rather than Tiranga media and sometimes it's better to use brain cells.

Lastly, India don't want to de escalate, perfectly allright. Try again harder and inshAllah again India will face humiliation.

1. Well no foreign media personnel was allowed in that area. Satellite images will be available on internet in sometime.

2.So who was the second pilot and second jet pakistan initially talked about?

3.Air space was fully closed. Fr24 website proved it. In India 4 airorts were closed for few hrs. And no blackout anywhere.

4. If there is another terrorist attack, India will again take similar steps. Pakistan's nuclear blackmail has been called. With deployment of Rafales and S400s in next 12 months, Pakistan's ability to retaliate will be significantly downgraded.

5. Such was the diplomatic pressure on Pakistan that they released the PoW in 48hrs. India has again said, as long as terrorist activities from Pakistan continue, there will not be any peace. No one in India is interested in any peace talks or dialogues. Its useless.

6. Iraq had American PoWs in gulf war. That didnot humiliate US. Pakistan had PoWs in kargil war, India still won it.

 

[Braveheart]

Another Indian media fail.

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[cricketjoshila]

This is what we can call media transparency. IF there is something, whole world sees it. Like we have shown.

On the other side there are only false cliams which have been debunked by whole world.

What has been debunked? Sheikh Rasheed accepted in pak parliament that there was "Azhar Sahab" ka madrasa there.

 

[Lonewarrior]

After Pulwama terror attack.

Indian airforce enters Pakistan and drops bombs near Balakot. Official casualties unknown

Pakistan in retaliation tries to enter Indian air space and is intercepted. India loses a Mig 21, PAF loses a aircraft. Indian Pilot made PoW and is being released within 48hrs due to diplomatic pressure.

Pakistan forced to close its entire air space and declare blackouts at cities like Karachi.

India closes 4 airports for few hours, life goes on as usual in all major cities.

So for Pakistan, supporting these terrorist groups to attack India is not going to be a cheap low cost option going ahead. Thats the paradigm shift. This even though India has not de escalated and pak airspace is still partially closed.

keep repeating this crap...
i asked you something yesterday about missile integration, you didnt asnwer me yet.
for now have some tea ...

 

[Hermoine Green]

1. Well no foreign media personnel was allowed in that area. Satellite images will be available on internet in sometime.

2.So who was the second pilot and second jet pakistan initially talked about?

3.Air space was fully closed. Fr24 website proved it. In India 4 airorts were closed for few hrs. And no blackout anywhere.

4. If there is another terrorist attack, India will again take similar steps. Pakistan's nuclear blackmail has been called. With deployment of Rafales and S400s in next 12 months, Pakistan's ability to retaliate will be significantly downgraded.

5. Such was the diplomatic pressure on Pakistan that they released the PoW in 48hrs. India has again said, as long as terrorist activities from Pakistan continue, there will not be any peace. No one in India is interested in any peace talks or dialogues. Its useless.

6. Iraq had American PoWs in gulf war. That didnot humiliate US. Pakistan had PoWs in kargil war, India still won it.

1. Well every one visited the place images are already available go and smell a coffee please. Myth has been debunked badly as i told you before.

2. Later on the second pilot mystery got cleared and it was officially said we have only one. So its been answered.

3. I have answered it already, India is very large place in area as compared to Pakistan, Indian air space was also closed, partially or completely it was and it had to be closed to avoid any danger. May be your country don't given preference to the lives so i cant say anything about it.

4. If there is an other mis adventure from Indian side, surely you will be leaving with red face like you had to a day ago. So be our guest, and try to do something again. You gloated about your superior Jets tech and the time has shown that its useless if your pilots dont even know how to fly. Our one was enough to shoot down your TWO.

5. Such was pressure on India that they terminated the idea of attacking through waters. And its been again said by our side too that if India try to do any thing more entertaining, we will be giving you fully entertainment. So, no point in SHARING this information. "No one" in India? Surely you dont speak for the whole India. SO keep it with your self.

And now, i need to concentrate on my chemicals So if you have something new to talk about you can mention me anywhere and i will be replying. But if you are going to repeat same old stuff which has been dealt with million times then kindly find some one else.

Good luck bro.

 

[Hermoine Green]

What has been debunked? Sheikh Rasheed accepted in pak parliament that there was "Azhar Sahab" ka madrasa there.

Flase claims of killing 300 terrorist, your bombs couldnt even kill 300 terrorist tree let alone people. And it's been debunked by lots of NEUTRALS as well.

As i said, if you have something new then you can disturb me. Otheriwise, please don't Mera experiment kharrab hojyega.

 

[pak4life]

What has been debunked? Sheikh Rasheed accepted in pak parliament that there was "Azhar Sahab" ka madrasa there.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...ties-mysterious-madrassa-190227183058957.html

Please read this. Either the pilot messed up or ran out of time. Why have no images or videos been released by the IAF? If it was a big success they would want everyone to see and embarrass Pakistan.

 

[wasimjunior]

After Pulwama terror attack.

Indian airforce enters Pakistan and drops bombs near Balakot. Official casualties unknown

Pakistan in retaliation tries to enter Indian air space and is intercepted. India loses a Mig 21, PAF loses a aircraft. Indian Pilot made PoW and is being released within 48hrs due to diplomatic pressure.

Pakistan forced to close its entire air space and declare blackouts at cities like Karachi.

India closes 4 airports for few hours, life goes on as usual in all major cities.

So for Pakistan, supporting these terrorist groups to attack India is not going to be a cheap low cost option going ahead. Thats the paradigm shift. This even though India has not de escalated and pak airspace is still partially closed.

Nice fairytales bhai. Enjoying them with some TEA and biscuits I hope

 

[90MPH]

I want to give credit to NDTV and some of their news anchors who are finally questioning their government.

A few of them just now have said it’s been 3 days since the attack yet Indian government has not shown even a shred of circumstantial evidence that they achieved anything.

They said India was being ridiculed by the international media like Reuter’s and New York Times as they were not buying the narrative that the attack killed any terrorists, let alone the ridiculous suggestion it was 200/300.

Basically they are starting to realise now they were duped, intentionally or unintentionally by this BJP government where they got bad intelligence or just gave wrong information to their media.

 

[Syed1]

The F-16 pilot India claimed to have downed is very much alive and well oops yeh tou lolwa hogaya


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is how fake India vs Pak reporting gets.<br><br>One image, from India, claims a Pakistani pilot has been killed in a downed F-16.<br><br>The next image, a screen shot from my phone just minutes ago, tells you the truth.<br><br>My friend, a PAF Group Captain I won’t name, is very much alive. <a href="https://t.co/l2bZrSuhBK">pic.twitter.com/l2bZrSuhBK</a></p>— WSK (@WajSKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WajSKhan/status/1101330656578150402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Thomaskutty]

What has been debunked? Sheikh Rasheed accepted in pak parliament that there was "Azhar Sahab" ka madrasa there.

Have pictures of this JeM madrassa still intact been released? It makes you wonder..

 

[cricketjoshila]

Flase claims of killing 300 terrorist, your bombs couldnt even kill 300 terrorist tree let alone people. And it's been debunked by lots of NEUTRALS as well.

As i said, if you have something new then you can disturb me. Otheriwise, please don't Mera experiment kharrab hojyega.

Can you show one govt statement saying 300 terrrorists were killed.

But your ISPR lied that they have 2 Indian pilots in custody and downed 2 jets.

Pretty obvious that since only 1 plane and pilot was Indian the second one was pakistani.

 

[natkhat-shahzada]

Can you show one govt statement saying 300 terrrorists were killed.

But your ISPR lied that they have 2 Indian pilots in custody and downed 2 jets.

Pretty obvious that since only 1 plane and pilot was Indian the second one was pakistani.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ts-government-source/articleshow/68165521.cms

"In a media briefing today, foreign secretary Vijay Gokhale confirmed that Indian Air Force conducted a major preemptive strike on Jaish-e-Mohammed's biggest camp early Tuesday, killing a large number of terrorists and trainers."


https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...ritory-killed-300-militants-government-source

"An Indian air strike in Pakistani territory killed 300 suspected militants, a senior Indian government source said on Tuesday."

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

The F-16 pilot India claimed to have downed is very much alive and well oops yeh tou lolwa hogaya


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is how fake India vs Pak reporting gets.<br><br>One image, from India, claims a Pakistani pilot has been killed in a downed F-16.<br><br>The next image, a screen shot from my phone just minutes ago, tells you the truth.<br><br>My friend, a PAF Group Captain I won’t name, is very much alive. <a href="https://t.co/l2bZrSuhBK">pic.twitter.com/l2bZrSuhBK</a></p>— WSK (@WajSKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WajSKhan/status/1101330656578150402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They're desperate. It's laughable. What a joke

Wait the gems we will see once the pilot crossed border. I genuinely feel for the poor guy and his family's safety from these hindutva extremists.

 

[cricketjoshila]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ts-government-source/articleshow/68165521.cms

"In a media briefing today, foreign secretary Vijay Gokhale confirmed that Indian Air Force conducted a major preemptive strike on Jaish-e-Mohammed's biggest camp early Tuesday, killing a large number of terrorists and trainers."


https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...ritory-killed-300-militants-government-source

"An Indian air strike in Pakistani territory killed 300 suspected militants, a senior Indian government source said on Tuesday."

Large number of terrorists. Not 300.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Can you show one govt statement saying 300 terrrorists were killed.

But your ISPR lied that they have 2 Indian pilots in custody and downed 2 jets.

Pretty obvious that since only 1 plane and pilot was Indian the second one was pakistani.

There were statements made by the defense sec. about many terrorists being killed, no evidence of even 1 terrorist being killed has come to light.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They're desperate. It's laughable. What a joke

Wait the gems we will see once the pilot crossed border. I genuinely feel for the poor guy and his family's safety from these hindutva extremists.

If Indian media named WC Shazuddin in their reports, ISPR should just bring the WC and kill the narrative. No?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

If Indian media named WC Shazuddin in their reports, ISPR should just bring the WC and kill the narrative. No?

Have we officially named him?

How will we know his name anyway if he isn't captured?

 

[natkhat-shahzada]

Large number of terrorists. Not 300.

Read the full news. They are quoting a Indian senior government official who gave 300 number. Also, check the 2nd news quote.

If there was no terrorist casuality then what was the celebration for? Pakistan was maintaining that there was no casuality and Indian claims are false. Do you want to see your posts on 26th February? Do you accept that you were fooled too?