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Rahul1 said:
I wonder why are British Pakistanis so concerned about how Muslims are treated in India. I bet that if we start talking about the condition of minorities in Pakistan, the likes of [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION], [MENTION=146465]R3verse Swing[/MENTION] would be nowhere to be seen.
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Same reason I wonder why Indian Hindus are concerned about Pakistani Muslims on a Pakistani forum run by British Pakistani Muslims.

:)
 
R3verse Swing said:
Here's the bottom line. Indian Muslims have not tasted azaadi like Pakistani Muslims have. Deep down Indian Muslims are hurting but do not have the courage to man up and accept they are 3rd class citizens in India, despite the facts and figures which confront them. Even in this thread, any trace of an Indian muslims, and it's Pakistan this Pakistan that. They call it subconscious cruelty.
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If I was going to be born a Muslim, I'd wish I was a Sunni born into an oil rich Persian Gulf state rather than any other place. At the very least, I'd have a silver spoon and be taken care of by the state from cradle to grave
 
Varun said:
If I was going to be born a Muslim, I'd wish I was a Sunni born into an oil rich Persian Gulf state rather than any other place. At the very least, I'd have a silver spoon and be taken care of by the state from cradle to grave
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That's like saying if you were born a Hindu you'd wish you were born in a higher caste. No wait. . . .
 
R3verse Swing said:
Same reason I wonder why Indian Hindus are concerned about Pakistani Muslims on a Pakistani forum run by British Pakistani Muslims.

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We have concerns about all religious people not only Pakistani Muslims.Thats why we talk about persecuation of Hindus/Christians in Pakistan too.
 
Rahul1 said:
I wonder why are British Pakistanis so concerned about how Muslims are treated in India. I bet that if we start talking about the condition of minorities in Pakistan, the likes of [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION], [MENTION=146465]R3verse Swing[/MENTION] would be nowhere to be seen.
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Why should British Pakistanis be less concerned than anyone else? India showed so much concern for minorities in Pakistan that they offered visas to them as long as they weren't Christians, Shias or Ahmadis. You are talking about a few posters on a message board, that was actual govt policy discriminating on religious grounds.
 
mankuTimma said:
We have concerns about all religious people not only Pakistani Muslims.Thats why we talk about persecuation of Hindus/Christians in Pakistan too.
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Good, then tell you Indian brethren not to weep when Pakistanis over the world highlight the persecution of Muslims in SECULAR India.

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R3verse Swing said:
Good, then tell you Indian brethren not to weep when Pakistanis over the world highlight the persecution of Muslims in SECULAR India.

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We weep for the hypocrisy as any decent human being do.When so much atrocities happen in Pakistan but hardly many here bother but takes too much interest in Indian Muslims is just astounding.Is life in Pakistan that much cheaper..I weep for them.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Why should British Pakistanis be less concerned than anyone else? India showed so much concern for minorities in Pakistan that they offered visas to them as long as they weren't Christians, Shias or Ahmadis. You are talking about a few posters on a message board, that was actual govt policy discriminating on religious grounds.
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Pakistan can also issue visas right? Oh wait no one interested even after supposed persecution.
 
mankuTimma said:
We weep for the hypocrisy as any decent human being do.When so much atrocities happen in Pakistan but hardly many here bother but takes too much interest in Indian Muslims is just astounding.Is life in Pakistan that much cheaper..I weep for them.
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But clearly you care. Being Indian on an Pakistani forum. I admire your concern.

Life is as a Muslim in Pakistan is 100 times better than life as a non Hindu in India. :19:
 
R3verse Swing said:
That's like saying if you were born a Hindu you'd wish you were born in a higher caste. No wait. . . .
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Yes, you should hope to be born into the most elite of settings or you're asking for it.

Everywhere else it's a battle between being a 2nd or 3rd class citizen, except if you were born in Abu Dhabi with a silver spoon dipped in black gold. It'll also spare us in India / the UK from your endless whining but hey, we supposedly offer semblance of from of speech, so there.
 
R3verse Swing said:
You are repeating and affirming the state of India. Life In India as a non-Hindu is 100 time WORSE than anything.

By the way, do you know where TMRiddle is?
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Muslims would do worse than to focus on education in whichever part of the world they reside. I doubt standards are too flash even in territories where they are a numerical majority.
 
Varun said:
Yes, you should hope to be born into the most elite of settings or you're asking for it.

Everywhere else it's a battle between being a 2nd or 3rd class citizen, except if you were born in Abu Dhabi with a silver spoon dipped in black gold. It'll also spare us in India / the UK from your endless whining but hey, we supposedly offer semblance of from of speech, so there.
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You just undermined your hatred for Muslims.

Keep it up. :19:
 
mankuTimma said:
Pakistan can also issue visas right? Oh wait no one interested even after supposed persecution.
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I think there'd be too many interested, that's why Pakistan can't offer visas on a selective basis, especially if that basis is religion. What would they do if they got one million applications?
 
R3verse Swing said:
You just undermined your hatred for Muslims.

Keep it up. :19:
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Keep what up? I like several aspects of Islam from the outside. In fact, my favourite time of the year is Ramadan - have to admit that you do know how to whip up a great evening meal.
 
Varun said:
Keep what up? I like several aspects of Islam from the outside. In fact, my favourite time of the year is Ramadan - have to admit that you do know how to whip up a great evening meal.
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Yet you call yourself an Atheist. Go on, I dare you, explain why Ramadan is your favourite time of the year?

You can pull wool over others, not me sunshine.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I think there'd be too many interested, that's why Pakistan can't offer visas on a selective basis, especially if that basis is religion. What would they do if they got one million applications?
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So you don’t want to support Millions of Muslims? Only certain people get supported?what is the criteria? Sunnis only ?
 
R3verse Swing said:
Yet you call yourself an Atheist. Go on, I dare you, explain why Ramadan is your favourite time of the year?

You can pull wool over others, not me sunshine.
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I'm not an atheist. I pick and choose the best parts from all the religions out there to my liking. If there is a term for this practice, please enlighten us what it's called? And I invite you to also join me in this paradise rather than cocoon yourself into one religion or the other and needlessly up your blood pressure.

*Extends hand*

And I like Ramadan because I'm a foodie. Duh? ::J
 
Varun said:
I'm not an atheist. I pick and choose the best parts from all the religions out there to my liking. If there is a term for this practice, please enlighten us what it's called? And I invite you to also join me in this paradise rather than cocoon yourself into one religion or the other and needlessly up your blood pressure.

*Extends hand*

And I like Ramadan because I'm a foodie. Duh? ::J
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It's called, insecurity.
 
R3verse Swing said:
But clearly you care. Being Indian on an Pakistani forum. I admire your concern.

Life is as a Muslim in Pakistan is 100 times better than life as a non Hindu in India. :19:
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Do you have a serious answer about the life of hindus or christians in Pakistan? Or are you going crack the same old lame jokes again?
 
Rahul1 said:
Do you have a serious answer about the life of hindus or christians in Pakistan? Or are you going crack the same old lame jokes again?
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Tell me why an Indian like you is concerned about a view of a Pakistani on a Pak forum.
 
Rahul1 said:
And why are YOU concerned about what's happening in India?
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Nothing to see here folks. These guys who say outsiders have no concern of what goes on in India are flummoxed by their own twisted logic and ironic presence.


:)
 
R3verse Swing said:
Nothing to see here folks. These guys who say outsiders have no concern of what goes on in India are flummoxed by their own twisted logic and ironic presence.


:)
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So you don't want to tell us about how minorities are treated in Pakistan? Thought so.
 
Indian muslims are trapped between the muslim clergy and the hindu right. The so called muslim appeasement is a myth and the only people who are appeased is the muslim clergy, because they wield influence in the community. So we see political leaders giving plum posts to imams of mosques and trying to woo them before elections. The other side is the hindu right which portrays muslims as the aggressors in every conflict and having dubious loyalties. How long will an indian muslim remain patriotic when he is demonised as a traitor? The clergy and the elite kill the idea of social upliftment of backward muslims and instead want quotas to be religion based, so that the elite muslim would be the primary beneficiary while the pasmanda muslim will sacrifice their rights to save Islam. Identity based politics is the bane of India, where if you belong to a certain caste or religion, then your political allegiance must lie with a particular party. So when one party is in power, the others who did not have allegiance to it get disenfranchised, creating more fault lines. It shouldn't have come to this hindu muslim dichotomy..because a hindu farmers needs are not different from a muslim farmer, who has more in common with the hindu farmer than the muslim elite.
 
mankuTimma said:
So you don’t want to support Millions of Muslims? Only certain people get supported?what is the criteria? Sunnis only ?
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Having enough space and infrastructure to support millions of immigrants. In any case it is your suggestion and no need for Pakistan to make empty gestures just because India did.
 
R3verse Swing said:
Enlighten me then.

Top 3 aspects of each religion since you limp from one religion to another.

Go!
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Am I that jobless to list down 21 or 27 bullet points when I can head down to the pub on a Saturday night? Get a life. ::J
 
Varun said:
Am I that jobless to list down 21 or 27 bullet points when I can head down to the pub on a Saturday night? Get a life. ::J
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Do they have pubs in India? Do they have similar themed names like they do in England, like The Stag's Head or The King's Arms? I could think of some great ones for Indian pubs. The Queen's Munshee....The Spitting Bucket...
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Do they have pubs in India? Do they have similar themed names like they do in England, like The Stag's Head or The King's Arms? I could think of some great ones for Indian pubs. The Queen's Munshee....The Spitting Bucket...
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Much to your chagrin and my liver's, Bangalore is called the pub capital of Asia.

I may or may not be in one right now. Is it allowed for you to quote me when I'm indulging in 'forbidden' alcohol? Think about it. :batman:
 
Varun said:
Much to your chagrin and my liver's, Bangalore is called the pub capital of Asia.

I may or may not be in one right now. Is it allowed for you to quote me when I'm indulging in 'forbidden' alcohol? Think about it. :batman:
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You must think all Muslims have long beards and wear namaz topis. How cute. Either they all look like that in India or you must live in separate neighbourhoods. Anyway it is always good to see someone who displays so much chagrin at *shudder* British Pakistanis extolling the virtues of the great British institutions in India.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
You must think all Muslims have long beards and wear namaz topis. How cute. Either they all look like that in India or you must live in separate neighbourhoods. Anyway it is always good to see someone who displays so much chagrin at *shudder* British Pakistanis extolling the virtues of the great British institutions in India.
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Does an opinion of a measly Internet poster matter so much to you that you have to bring this up at every turn and corner? I stated the above once months ago and you have quoted this at least five times since, no doubt baking and stewing all the time in between.

Take a chill pill. I'm a nobody in the larger scheme of things and it doesn't matter what I think.
 
Varun said:
Does an opinion of a measly Internet poster matter so much to you that you have to bring this up at every turn and corner? I stated the above once months ago and you have quoted this at least five times since, no doubt baking and stewing all the time in between.

Take a chill pill. I'm a nobody in the larger scheme of things and it doesn't matter what I think.
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You are right, it doesn't matter so I'll carry on if it's ok with you.
 
Varun said:
Am I that jobless to list down 21 or 27 bullet points when I can head down to the pub on a Saturday night? Get a life. ::J
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So you don't have it. Your type are so easy to bust. After all anyone who claims to love Islam because of food needs help any way.
 
R3verse Swing said:
So you don't have it. Your type are so easy to bust. After all anyone who claims to love Islam because of food needs help any way.
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Stop being modest, the food rocks our socks and you know it! My favourite pick: the good old Haleem!

We have a place called 'Pista House' that nails it every Ramadan, and is arguably a city favourite. If I need help, it's to get in and stay at the front of the queue every evening during that time of the year.
 
Varun said:
Stop being modest, the food rocks our socks and you know it! My favourite pick: the good old Haleem!

We have a place called 'Pista House' that nails it every Ramadan, and is arguably a city favourite. If I need help, it's to get in and stay at the front of the queue every evening during that time of the year.
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Yeah yeah. Nice story. You don't have time to substantiate your fake views but have time to fan nonsense.

You are right, get a life.
 
R3verse Swing said:
Yeah yeah. Nice story. You don't have time to substantiate your fake views but have time to fan nonsense.

You are right, get a life.
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I don't need to get a life, I'm livin' the life. How many people can claim they are sipping vodka and cranberry juice as I type, but come same time next month will be diving into delicious finger lickin' haleem?

Meanwhile, how's your weekend night coming along?
 
Varun said:
I don't need to get a life, I'm livin' the life. How many people can claim they are sipping vodka and cranberry juice as I type, but come same time next month will be diving into delicious finger lickin' haleem?

Meanwhile, how's your weekend night coming along?
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Yup the life of an atheist. :)
 
Looks like the country is becoming more and more divisive.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cancelled <a href="https://twitter.com/Olacabs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Olacabs</a> Booking because Driver was Muslim. I don't want to give my money to Jihadi People. <a href="https://t.co/1IIf4LlTZL">pic.twitter.com/1IIf4LlTZL</a></p>— Abhishek Mishra (@Abhishek_Mshra) <a href="https://twitter.com/Abhishek_Mshra/status/987275672543358976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Looks like driving a cab has also become a jihadi activity in India.
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I know this guy. He is from Lucknow and did it in response to an event few days ago where a girl was lauded for refusing a cab which had hindu symbolisms. It is open hindu muslim season these days, and will get uglier and heated up till the elections.
 
Saeed said:
Looks like the country is becoming more and more divisive.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cancelled <a href="https://twitter.com/Olacabs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Olacabs</a> Booking because Driver was Muslim. I don't want to give my money to Jihadi People. <a href="https://t.co/1IIf4LlTZL">pic.twitter.com/1IIf4LlTZL</a></p>— Abhishek Mishra (@Abhishek_Mshra) <a href="https://twitter.com/Abhishek_Mshra/status/987275672543358976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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It's people like him who are a curse to my country.
 
Been reading this thread and there are some very interesting viewpoints. One thing that's surprising is not many Indian Muslims are on this thread supporting or negating any point of view. I guess they don't care about people talking about them or the posts here are so inaccurate that people don't bother to respond.

This is a disclaimer that I've not known many Indian Muslims per se but based on what I read or watched, Indian Muslims and Hindus typically are segregated in neighborhoods in the same city. This could be because of religion but it could also be to make it count in elections without diluting their vote. They live and lead peaceful lives in their own cocoons and accept India as their own country. Religion still comes number 1 above country for Muslims and a constant need to prove their loyalty to country irks them. This is for lower and middle class Muslims. The rich are unburdened with this and can live happily anywhere. One thing that's surprising to me is the lack of a major Muslim national political party. That tells me that the Ummah concept is non existent in India and they care more about their regional everyday issues like education, employment, security and welfare.
 
rhony said:
Been reading this thread and there are some very interesting viewpoints. One thing that's surprising is not many Indian Muslims are on this thread supporting or negating any point of view. I guess they don't care about people talking about them or the posts here are so inaccurate that people don't bother to respond.

This is a disclaimer that I've not known many Indian Muslims per se but based on what I read or watched, Indian Muslims and Hindus typically are segregated in neighborhoods in the same city. This could be because of religion but it could also be to make it count in elections without diluting their vote. They live and lead peaceful lives in their own cocoons and accept India as their own country. Religion still comes number 1 above country for Muslims and a constant need to prove their loyalty to country irks them. This is for lower and middle class Muslims. The rich are unburdened with this and can live happily anywhere. One thing that's surprising to me is the lack of a major Muslim national political party. That tells me that the Ummah concept is non existent in India and they care more about their regional everyday issues like education, employment, security and welfare.
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Indian muslims population is 15%, so on average you are likely to get 1 out of 10 posters being an Indian muslim. Also Muslim population in India vary, some speak Urdu, some speak Sindhi and vast majority speak native language of their state. Urdu speaking Muslims and Native linguistic muslims don't see themselves as one. The native speaking muslims still have native cultural practices, they tend to watch native language movies, soap operas and listen to native songs. While Urdu speaking Muslims (until recently) would watch Bollywood movies and don't really care about the cultural practices of native state. Basically the Urdu speaking Muslims see them as separate while native speaking Muslims really don't.

Most native speaking Muslims don't really care much about Palestine or Kashmir for the most part. Native speaking Muslims for example don't really mind if we give sweet for Diwali or Christmas, they'll take it and eat it but Urdu speaking Muslims maintain some distance.
 
Relax, Indian Muslims are Indians and it's gonna stay that way. When Pak was formed our ancestors knew it was simply not plausible for every Muslim then to relocate to the new country. Within these 200 million people there are thousands of views from chronic Pak haters, to neutral views and Pak lovers as well. In the current scenario it would be criminal for Indian Muslim's to openly support Pakistan, the best option to survive is for them to join the anti-Pakistan clubs in India. The Indian Muslims I have met in the UAE are very normal people although I felt there was no doubt an invisible line between us.
 
KingKhanWC said:
There are nearly 200 million Muslims in India. Muslims ruled vast areas of this land for many years.

Today we have a right wing government who has been spreading hate against Muslims.

Kashmir, beef killings, killing of young girl..were all related to this.

Why isn't there a large Muslim lobby group with power so Muslims are not threatened, attacked or discriminated against?
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Time to take ownership of our Muslim brothers in india and take responsibility for their actions
 
emranabbas said:
Time to take ownership of our Muslim brothers in india and take responsibility for their actions
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Our brothers? lol You wrote you were proud of posters who promote RSS and BJP.

At this point, its not clear if you're a Pakistani Muslim, let alone anyones brother.

Not sure why you keep tagging me, I pass time enjoying debates and discussions with posters who interest me, you dont.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Our brothers? lol You wrote you were proud of posters who promote RSS and BJP.

At this point, its not clear if you're a Pakistani Muslim, let alone anyones brother.

Not sure why you keep tagging me, I pass time enjoying debates and discussions with posters who interest me, you dont.
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Where exactly did I say that? Please quote the post.

If they were RSS supporters, why would they have condemned the horrific act by the minister you claimed was RSS minister? Wouldn’t they have sided with him and defended him instead just like how you’re defending the terrorist behind the Australia attack and those responsible for the 9th May violence?

I’m like debates too, but I also believe in calling out PTI posters who constantly flip-flop depending on the argument and exposing PTI CULT

And stop lying that you don’t have interest in me you showed too much intrest in having discussions with me in PTI and Imran khan related threads
 
KingKhanWC said:
Our brothers? lol You wrote you were proud of posters who promote RSS and BJP.

At this point, its not clear if you're a Pakistani Muslim, let alone anyones brother.

Not sure why you keep tagging me, I pass time enjoying debates and discussions with posters who interest me, you dont.
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You know how Zionists change their names to shield themselves from criticism and vitriol? Well, the same tactic is now invoked by the cult. The cult pretend to be Muslim by having a Muslim sounding names. This protects them from the day to day bombardment of truth bombs (while living a lie), yet provides the cult with a veiled sense of anonymity when posting online.

These guys are easier to pick out of the lame-light than they are online.
 
emranabbas said:
Where exactly did I say that? Please quote the post.

If they were RSS supporters, why would they have condemned the horrific act by the minister you claimed was RSS minister? Wouldn’t they have sided with him and defended him instead just like how you’re defending the terrorist behind the Australia attack and those responsible for the 9th May violence?

I’m like debates too, but I also believe in calling out PTI posters who constantly flip-flop depending on the argument and exposing PTI CULT

And stop lying that you don’t have interest in me you showed too much intrest in having discussions with me in PTI and Imran khan related threads
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You didnt say, you wrote. Please consult a doctor if you are forgetting your praises for rss supporters and you being proud of them lol.

You dont have the ability to remember what happened yesterday, let alone debate anyone.

However, I CHALLENGE YOU to a debate, lets see if you're brave or cowardly. Start a thread explaining why you submit to military rule or a thread why you hate Imran Khan. Be detailed and write in points. You wont lol.
 
Killing your wife and daughters for not wearing a burqa? Intolerance so high that one is willing to become a criminal.

Shame to see the total lack of choice given to women and men thinking they are born to ‘decide’ for them. Hope he gets the severest punishment for this

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Killing your wife and daughters for not wearing a burqa? Intolerance so high that one is willing to become a criminal.

Shame to see the total lack of choice given to women and men thinking they are born to ‘decide’ for them. Hope he gets the severest punishment for this

:kp
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Almost all women who wear this do it out of choice. This scmbag should be hanged.

Violence against women seems to cross religions, ethnicities, class or wealth in India.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Almost all women who wear this do it out of choice. This scmbag should be hanged.

Violence against women seems to cross religions, ethnicities, class or wealth in India.
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Most of India's problems, including terrorism, have been created by peaceful communities. Thanks to Jinnah, he took at least half of India's population with him; it would have been even better if he had taken the entire Peaceful community population.

:klopp :kp
 
Devadwal said:
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Most of India's problems, including terrorism, have been created by peaceful communities. Thanks to Jinnah, he took at least half of India's population with him; it would have been even better if he had taken the entire Peaceful community population.

:klopp :kp
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Millions and the majority of women who are sexually harassed, raped, abused etc are done by the majority idol worshipping community, this is a fact.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Millions and the majority of women who are sexually harassed, raped, abused etc are done by the majority idol worshipping community, this is a fact.
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Still crime/ terrorism ratio is far far lower than peaceful community. #Fact :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Still crime/ terrorism ratio is far far lower than peaceful community. #Fact :kp
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Not true, you clearly dont understand the definition you're spouting daily. BJP RSS are involved in political violence weekly, this is also terrorism. Since you clearly hate Muslims, why keep appearing here only to be humiliated by them?
:kp
 
KingKhanWC said:
Millions and the majority of women who are sexually harassed, raped, abused etc are done by the majority idol worshipping community, this is a fact.
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Living next door to UK rapist grooming gangs (you know who they are :D ), you shouldn’t be lecturing others about different countries. Don’t try to spit at the sky, it will fall back on your own face.
First, start by looking at yourself in the mirror and at what’s happening around you.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Living next door to UK rapist grooming gangs (you know who they are :D ), you shouldn’t be lecturing others about different countries. Don’t try to spit at the sky, it will fall back on your own face.
First, start by looking at yourself in the mirror and at what’s happening around you.
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I live next to white folk and most gangs of abusers are white also. Accept the truth women are not safe in India. More women are abused yearly in India, than the whole population of the UK.

More than 1 milllion children are abused daily , forced into prostitution. This was 2009, the number has probably doubled now. Have some shame and care for your own Indian women in India, instead of being more concerned about British women.
 
KingKhanWC said:
I live next to white folk and most gangs of abusers are white also. Accept the truth women are not safe in India. More women are abused yearly in India, than the whole population of the UK.

More than 1 milllion children are abused daily , forced into prostitution. This was 2009, the number has probably doubled now. Have some shame and care for your own Indian women in India, instead of being more concerned about British women.
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Really? :D
In August 2014, a groundbreaking report by former senior social worker Alexis Jay revealed that an estimated 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town from 1997 to 2013, predominantly by Pakistani-British men.

First made aware of the existence of “grooming gangs” in the UK in the mid-1990s. Groups of mostly Pakistani-British men would target vulnerable girls to sexually exploit them and pass them around among their friends and business associates for profit.

www.aljazeera.com

The UK’s grooming gangs and the lessons never learned

It is high time for Britain's criminal justice system to stop failing vulnerable girls victimised by predatory men.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
 
KingKhanWC said:
More than 1 milllion children are abused daily
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Where in Pakistan?

More than 2 million children frequently attend madrasas – Koranic schools that offer free religious education to the most disadvantaged. But behind the walls of these revered institutions lies a chilling reality: thousands of children are subjected to sexual violence in deafening silence.
"All the boys in the village were talking about the risk of being raped in the madrasas ... I didn't think it could happen to me," 14-year-old Hassan tells"

www.france24.com

Reporters - Pakistan, broken innocence: An exclusive investigation into sexual violence at madrasas

In Pakistan, more than 2 million children frequently attend madrasas – Koranic schools that offer free religious education to the most disadvantaged. But behind the walls of these revered institutions…
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Stop your nonsense and dragging India, India, Hindutva, Hindutva into everything. Look at yourself in the mirror first. :salute
 

Eight arrested in Bihar over mob lynching of cloth vendor​


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Eight arrested in Bihar over mob lynching of cloth vendor

Eight individuals have been arrested in Bihar for the mob lynching of a Muslim hawker, Mohammad Athar Hussain, over religious identity.
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The police registered a case on December 6, based on a statement from Shabnam Parveen, victim Mohammad Athar Hussain’s wife. The complainant named 10 people in the FIR and stated that they had lynched her husband on charge of theft.​

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Mohammad Athar Hussain was allegedly tortured and lynched over his religious identity on December 5, 2025, at Bhattapur village under Roh police station limits in Bihar’s Nawada district. Photo: Special Arrangement
The Bihar police have arrested eight people in connection with the alleged mob lynching of Mohammad Athar Hussain (40), a cloth vendor from Gagan Dewan locality in Nalanda district who died at Pawapuri Hospital in Nalanda on December 12, 2025.


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Nitish’s Hijab Row: Women File Complaints in Hyderabad

www.deccanchronicle.com

Nitish’s Hijab Row: Women File Complaints in Hyderabad

Complaints filed in Hyderabad, NCW urged to take suo motu cognisance
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Complaints filed in Hyderabad, NCW urged to take suo motu cognisance A socio-political activist, Khalida Parveen, in her complaint alleged that the Bihar Chief Minister had “pulled down the niqab” of a doctor on the stage while giving the job offer letter. “It’s a crime and an insult for a woman. I requested the SHO to lodge an FIR under sections 74, 79, 299 and 302 of BNS,” said the activist.

Hyderabad: Women activists in Hyderabad lodged complaints with Osmania University and Langar Houz police stations against Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar for removing the hijab of a female doctor at a public event on December 15. They also lodged a complaint with the National Women Commission (NCW). The incident has sparked outrage in the city. The women activists demanded the state police to register a zero FIR against Nitish Kumar and transfer the FIR to the competent police station in Patna for further investigation. They also urged the preservation of video evidence and initiation of proceedings against the accused.

A socio-political activist, Khalida Parveen, in her complaint alleged that the Bihar Chief Minister had “pulled down the niqab” of a doctor on the stage while giving the job offer letter. “It’s a crime and an insult for a woman. I requested the SHO to lodge an FIR under sections 74, 79, 299 and 302 of BNS,” said the activist. At Osmania University police station, Lubna Sarwath and other women activists lodged a complaint demanding that the SHO to register a zero FIR against Nitish Kumar. “Nitish Kumar’s action violates dignity, modesty and religious freedom. This incident was captured on video and widely published in national media outlets, thereby amplifying the humiliation and violating her privacy rights under the Digital Personal Data Protection Act, 2023,” she argued.

Describing this as a public outrage of modesty and a religious insult, Lubna, along with Nikhat Fatima, Maqbool Mateen, Natesh Dravidian and others, lodged a complaint with the NCW, seeking it to take suo moto cognizance of the incident. Social media activist and former state secretary of the Movement for Peace and Justice, Mohd Abdul Sattar, demanded that the Bihar Chief Minister should apologise for his misdeed. “Nitish Kumar must publicly apologise to the doctor. It’s none of his business to meddle with a woman’s dignity,” he posted on X.

Newly-nominated Hyderabad District Congress Committee (DCC) president Syed Khalid Saifullah condemned the incident, calling it a “shameful and unconstitutional act”. The leader said the incident was not just a case of bad behaviour but a direct assault on a woman’s right to privacy, dignity, and freedom to dress as per her choice — rights protected under Article 21 of the Indian Constitution. “This is not just about one religion or one community. This concerns every mother, every sister, and every daughter of our country. The Chief Minister’s actions represent a misuse of power and a dangerous breach of a woman’s personal space. Such conduct is against the values of our Constitution and humanity,” Saifullah said.


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Indian Muslim minorities suffer persecution from revived Hindu populism and nationalism​



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Indian Muslim minorities suffer persecution from revived Hindu populism and nationalism

The hegemonic rise of Hindu nationalism and Hindu populism in India has trapped Indian Muslim minorities. The secular Indian state appears to be developing into a Hindu authoritarian state, and one where violence against Muslims is normalised, argues Amit Singh
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The hegemonic rise of Hindu nationalism and Hindu populism in India has trapped Indian Muslim minorities. The secular Indian state appears to be developing into a Hindu authoritarian state, and one where violence against Muslims is normalised, argues Amit Singh

A genocide in the making​

Hindu populism is the use of Hindu nationalism and religion as a basis for populist politics. Despite significant similarities, however, Hindu populism and nationalism are not the same concept. Populists can exploit the majority religion and exacerbate religious conflicts.

In India, this conflict manifests through right-wing Hindu nationalism demonising Muslim minorities. Right-wing political parties in India, including Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party, use Hindu nationalism and populism. Hindu nationalism is radically far-right, authoritarian, and based on the idea of Hindu supremacy.

Under the current Hindu nationalist Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, ancient Hindu-Muslim animosity has been effectively channelled to marginalise Muslims
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Under the current Hindu nationalist Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, ancient Hindu-Muslim animosity has been effectively channelled to marginalise Muslims. This is to bolster Modi’s pro-Hindu image, while simultaneously limiting dissenting voices.

Modi is not a typical populist; instead, he belongs to a hybrid category. He supports the Hindu majoritarian view of the nation, and incites public emotions of Hindu pride and patriotism. Since Modi’s populist call to Hindu nationalism, India’s 200 million Muslims find themselves potentially on the brink of impending genocide. They are victims of everyday Islamophobia and hate speech.

Divisive binaries​

One aspect of religion particularly useful for populists is the divisive binaries that religion creates by dividing people into ‘us’ and ‘them’. In this case, ‘us’ means indigenous, pure, and a patriot, while ‘them’ refers to a state of being foreign, promiscuous, and a traitor. The Hindu populist-nationalist framework considers a Hindu a ‘son of the land’, sacred and loyal to the mother India. Muslims and Christians, meanwhile, are labelled invaders, disloyal to the nation.

Hindu nationalists demand total assimilation of religious minorities. This withholds any special constitutional privileges which would allow minorities to keep their distinct religious identities. Minorities also carry the burden of having to prove their loyalty to the nation.

Populist Hindu nationalism thrives on communications aimed at emotional governance, emphasising religion and masculinity
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Populist Hindu nationalism thrives on communications aimed at emotional governance. These messages provide emotional security to an insecure Hindu electorate on the basis of religion and the masculinisation of nationalism.

'Religion' and 'nationalism' are the two most important identity signifiers giving stability and security to the Hindu majority in times of perceived crisis. Hindu nationalists view the roots of this crisis as lying in Muslims’ growing population which will, some claim, turn India into a Muslim nation by 2027.

Populist Hindu nationalism has played a pivotal role in demonising Muslim minorities and inventing an image of a lost India that needs rescuing by the majority Hindus. Thus, religion has become a critical dividing line.

Chosen trauma​

‘Chosen trauma’ is the shared mental representation of a massive trauma that a particular group's ancestors suffered at the hands of an enemy. Right-wing populist leaders constantly invoke such ideas to mobilise majoritarian politics.

In the Indian context, Prime Minister Modi frequently invokes chosen traumas to highlight the injustices Hindus have experienced under Muslim rule in India, so stimulating religious polarisation and prompting Hindus to take vengeance against Muslims.

The Islamic invasion of India between the 12th and 16th centuries, and the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947, are significant events in the country’s history. Hindu nationalists describe them as historical traumas, and harness them to generate narratives of rage, fear and anxiety among the Hindu majority. This usually results in Islamophobia and the normalisation of violence against Muslims.

The electoral victory of the Hindu nationalist party and leaders has, to some extent, been shaped by the selective use of chosen traumas. These have strong emotional populist appeal among the Hindu majority.

Restoring lost glory​

Conservative appeals to restore the ancient glories and values of the Hindu religion, as well as the mythical kingdom of Lord Ram, still prevail among religious Hindus. In the Hindu imagination, ancient India was a perfect state until the Muslim invader ruined India and polluted Hindu culture. Under Modi, the Hindu nationalist party called on Hindus to vote for it on a promise to restore the glory of ancient India, under a masculine, magical, aggressive and strong leader.

Narendra Modi has participated in religious ceremonies at Ayodhya and the Kashi Vishwanath temple. This indicates that India is gradually moving towards becoming a Hindu nation and thus abdicating its secular identity. In an Indian Hindu nation, the Muslim will be a second-class citizen.

In their efforts to recover the lost glory of India, Hindu nationalists pursue a number of policies. These include securing the Babri mosque site for a Hindu temple and renaming places with Hindu names (often replacing Muslim names). Simultaneously, they have been stripping Jammu and Kashmir of its special status through the dilution of Article 370, and moving towards a new citizenship law with the potential to exclude Muslims from Indian citizenship.

India is gradually abdicating its secular identity, and acts of violence against Muslims have a certain appeal among core Hindu nationalist supporters
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Bulldozing the homes of Muslim protestors has almost become a populist policy of Hindu nationalism in the Bhartiya Janta Party-ruled states of Uttar Pradesh and Madhaya Pradesh. Acts of violence in full public view against Muslims have a certain appeal among core Hindu nationalist supporters.

Overall, several key features constitute Hindu populist nationalism. Most significant are nostalgia for traditional Hindu culture, opposition to liberal lifestyles, an obsession with nationalism, and opposition to religious minorities.

Marginalising Muslims​

Hindu nationalism as a populist discourse keeps religion in play and enhances religiosity by preserving religious identities. This has created a social distance between religious communities, as is apparent in the growing animosity between Hindus and Muslims. The reluctance of the Hindu community to condemn violence against Muslims also reflects this. There is also a general apathy towards the rights of religious minorities.

The combination of Hindu nationalism and Hindu populism has exposed Indian Muslims to a form of state-sponsored violence. Muslims remain the enemy to be excluded.


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