Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win [sedition charges dropped]

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The trouble began on Sunday night when a group of local and Kashmiri students were watching India-Pakistan cricket match in the hall of the university's Madan Dhingra Hostel and some Kashmiri students clapped every time an Indian player's wicket fell, and later celebrated the Pakistan win.

Tension intensified after local student's opposed and joined in a clash with Kashmiri students.

Initially, authorities decided to suspend only those students who had shouted slogans. "But a three-tier inquiry finally recommended all Kashmiri students to be expelled because they didn't reveal the names of the handful of wrongdoers actually involved in creating trouble," Ahmad told reporters.

Around 200 Kashmiri students are enrolled in B Tech and law courses in the university.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...K-students-expulsion/articleshow/31435489.cms

So because a handful of students celebrated a Pakistan win over India, all the rest of 200 Kashmiri students got expelled? Do you really think that reflects well on India's democracy?

 

[90MPH]

All it shows how insecure they are.

Lol also shows how butt hurt the Indians were when Afridi hit the winning strike. No 1 could hide their emotions from that match, I suspect it was too much for the students to hide.

Brings me even more joy now.

 

[Vayuu]

Re: Cricket: Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win

All it shows how insecure they are.

Lol also shows how butt hurt the Indians were when Afridi hit the winning strike. No 1 could hide their emotions from that match, I suspect it was too much for the students to hide.

Brings me even more joy now.

It shows how immature u r ,these idiots should have kept their emotions to themselve ,had it been the opposite in pakistan,I bet those guys wouldn't have been alive to tell about their part.

sent from dil se

 

[90MPH]

It shows how immature u r ,these idiots should have kept their emotions to themselve ,had it been the opposite in pakistan,I bet those guys wouldn't have been alive to tell about their part.

sent from dil se

Whatever, go preach to another forum where they believe your Indian propaganda and nonsense.

Maybe if these students had celebrated in Gujarat they would have been burnt alive, just like people were by Modi and his thugs in 2002.

 

[Vayuu]

Re: Cricket: Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win

That is your problem you think every one have the same thinking as you.

I am not saying the fair thing here is to pakistan to take kashmir here ,but let kashmir being independant or at least let them decide by democatric vote which one they want to go with,that 's what is fair,but that not gonna happen.I am not a kashmiris ,but i am just objective ,but man like you saw injustice just when they are concern by it.

You ask me what we gonna give to kashmir if pakistan get kashmir ,better to give nothing to someone and don't harm him ,let him live peacely than give them almost nothing and kill ,rape them.
By the way what do you prefer in someone who kill your mother or destroy your home and give you 10 dollars or someone who give you nothing but don't do anything to you ?

Oh really,we have all seen how u guys treat balochis,they were living peacefully before 1987 and it's not that all ' s lost but situation is improving quiet well,regarding ur second part ,I will deffo take action against that particular person,but that doesn't mean I will have animosity against the country in which I am born,and I won't care about a person who doesn't do anything for me .

sent from dil se

 

[Vayuu]

Re: Cricket: Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win

Whatever, go preach to another forum where they believe your Indian propaganda and nonsense.

Maybe if these students had celebrated in Gujarat they would have been burnt alive, just like people were by Modi and his thugs in 2002.

Why are u so concerned about gujarat,is it a part of pakistan no,whatever happened in gujarat was unfortunate and everybody condemned it,so was godhra,what is conditions of minorities in pakistan care to explain,hardliners are everywhere my friend,but u can't held every body responsible for it

sent from dil se

 

[Madplayer]

So, you agree army is there after Kashmiri pundits were butchered. That's good. Now as far as local kashmiris are concerned, you do need our sympathy and support if you don't want army presence there.

this post is a perfect example of how clueless the indians are about what is happening and has happened in kashmir.

Let me tell you a few things i know as a local kashmiri:

1) an average kashmiri dislikes india (i am being polite here) for reasons which are far from the knowledge of indians. ALL OF THEM MIGHT NOT LOVE PAKISTAN (although a big part of our population does) BUT THEY HATE BEING CALLED INDIAN. There are kashmiris who like india solely because of financial benefits needless to say they are very few.

2) Army was brought in kashmir in around the 1950s so no sherlock, army didnt come after pandits left. And their number is ever increasing . This is one more reason why india wants kashmir . They keep those animals in here.

3) now about the more sensitive and controversial issue of kashmiri pandits. Are kashmiri muslims to be blamed for their exodus? NO . And NO they were not butchered. Yes a total of 209 kashmiri pandits were lost during that period of time(which should never have happened) as compared to "officially recorded" 50000+ kashmiri muslims (actual number ranging between 1.5 lakhs to 2 lakhs). And majority of those 209 were not killed on some communal lines(yes some were) but they mostly were target killings involving pandits who spread anti-kashmiri sentiments (example using media such as radio etc ;;; i donot condone it). . And needless to say kashmiri civilians had nothing to do with it except that they many a times shielded the pandits. Even their exodus was due to a conspiracy of the then governor jagmohan who said "every kashmiri muslim is a terrorist and only bullet is the solution of kashmir problem"(this is recorded in a newspaper) and ordered pandits to leave because he wanted a total military action performed on kashmiri muslims i.e. Bombarding certain areas and he did not want pandits to be caught in between. The operation did not go forward though .Let me ask you a question. when you are left in the middle of nowhere (na ghar ka na ghaat ka) what do you do?
I'll tell you. You try to get your hands on whatever you can. When all of it happened , what do you think the pandits would have said to the outsiders? Everything that could gain them sympathy and benefits.

I know indians have been brainwashed and spoon fed biased information over decades (china does something similar) to portray kashmiris as evil beings who killed pandits and all while we used to consider them our brothers (not sure what kashmiris in general think of them now because they left us to die alone).
Was it malcolm X who said “If you are not careful, the
newspapers will have you
hating the people who are
being oppressed and
loving the people who are
doing the oppressing.”

 

[ahmedzee]

Only in India would supporters of opposition teams be expelled in Universities. Only and only in India...
disgusting stuff from the university.

 

[Indiana Jones]

this post is a perfect example of how clueless the indians are about what is happening and has happened in kashmir.

Let me tell you a few things i know as a local kashmiri:

1) an average kashmiri dislikes india (i am being polite here) for reasons which are far from the knowledge of indians. ALL OF THEM MIGHT NOT LOVE PAKISTAN (although a big part of our population does) BUT THEY HATE BEING CALLED INDIAN. There are kashmiris who like india solely because of financial benefits needless to say they are very few.

2) Army was brought in kashmir in around the 1950s so no sherlock, army didnt come after pandits left. And their number is ever increasing . This is one more reason why india wants kashmir . They keep those animals in here.

3) now about the more sensitive and controversial issue of kashmiri pandits. Are kashmiri muslims to be blamed for their exodus? NO . And NO they were not butchered. Yes a total of 209 kashmiri pandits were lost during that period of time(which should never have happened) as compared to "officially recorded" 50000+ kashmiri muslims (actual number ranging between 1.5 lakhs to 2 lakhs). And majority of those 209 were not killed on some communal lines(yes some were) but they mostly were target killings involving pandits who spread anti-kashmiri sentiments (example using media such as radio etc ;;; i donot condone it). . And needless to say kashmiri civilians had nothing to do with it except that they many a times shielded the pandits. Even their exodus was due to a conspiracy of the then governor jagmohan who said "every kashmiri muslim is a terrorist and only bullet is the solution of kashmir problem"(this is recorded in a newspaper) and ordered pandits to leave because he wanted a total military action performed on kashmiri muslims i.e. Bombarding certain areas and he did not want pandits to be caught in between. The operation did not go forward though .Let me ask you a question. when you are left in the middle of nowhere (na ghar ka na ghaat ka) what do you do?
I'll tell you. You try to get your hands on whatever you can. When all of it happened , what do you think the pandits would have said to the outsiders? Everything that could gain them sympathy and benefits.

I know indians have been brainwashed and spoon fed biased information over decades (china does something similar) to portray kashmiris as evil beings who killed pandits and all while we used to consider them our brothers (not sure what kashmiris in general think of them now because they left us to die alone).
Was it malcolm X who said “If you are not careful, the
newspapers will have you
hating the people who are
being oppressed and
loving the people who are
doing the oppressing.”

Ha ha ha ha...what a brainwashed and lying dude you are. Army came to Kashmir to safeguard the border in the 50s but it was not deployed on the streets of valley until Kashmiri pundits were butchered in the streets of srinagar. Who killed and raped them? You have no answer to it because you believe in your mullah's propaganda that they were involved in anti Kashmiri activities. 5 lakh Kashmiri pundits lost their homes and livelihood and still they are living in relief camps like cattles. Its been more than 20 years and they haven't returned home because they know they will be hacked to death. Only in India you have this kind of shame. 50,000 Kashmiris were killed ehh? Indian army has lost more than 40, 000 army men fighting these jihadists ? What about their lives? Only miltants life are important ehh? And finally, Kashmiri pundits left because they wanted to bombard a particular place ? But it didn't go as planned,.ha ha ha...read some neutral sources, not greater Kashmiri news paper which is a piece of junk. Only in India these sorts of newspapers can exist which spreads hatred and lies. You people are being brainwashed by these mullahs who see people as Hindus and Muslims and not as human beings first. Unless you people realize that, Kashmir is going to be a mess and don't blame us for causing trouble. Last but not the least if you don't consider yourself as an Indian, don't step outside of Kashmir and come to India for studies. I live in meerut , I will see how this issue pans out in our area. My blood boils when a Kashmiri student studys in India and supports Pakistan and shouts pro Pakistan slogans. If you are Kashmiri and want a career in India, you better be an Indian not a Pakistani , or just stay where you are and become a freedom fighter against evil Indians.

 

[Bilal7]

Absolutely disgusting behavior from the university. The ones who should have been expelled were the intolerant psychos that wanted blood just because a few of their peers supported Pakistan in a cricket match.

I'd like to know what the majority of Indians feel about this. Some posters here are also supporting the Uni's decision so it seems like a widespread ideology of intolerance.

Then we have a few Indian posters saying that the Indi-Pak cricket rivalry is over.

 

[King Cobra]

its not about the match, its probably due to praising of a supposedly an "enemy" nation and discrimination of India where the school management are from. If people had celebrated loss of Sri Lanka vs any team, they would have been arrested and charged with terrorism charge, not kidding.

Where ? In Sri Lanka ?

 

[Bilal7]

don't act like saint... if the same student says Bharat matha kee jai in pak, I doubt they still alive after that..

No, people would just lol at that phrase.

Lots of Afghans were cheering for Afghanistan during the AFG vs Pak game but I don't hear about anyone being expelled or killed.

Stop making baseless accusations and become more tolerant. Especially when its only cricket.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If we are making up random accusations about which country meddles in the others affairs, then we are going to end up dragging in Bangladesh, Balochistan, Afghanistan, Dalit oppression and so on. Let's not be silly about it.

As for hatred for others as expressed on this forum, you'll find a wide diaspora with Mirpuris, Punjabis and Pashtuns all complaining they are discriminated against. It's the nature of an open forum where agendas are driven home by a few determined trolls, it should be taken with a pinch of salt. Instead you should appreciate that Pakistan boards tend to be very open and welcoming which is why you find so many Indians using them.

Instead of going off on broader issues let's stick to the incident itself and discuss how that should have been handled. No need to worry about Pak meddling unless you feel that these students were ISI operatives sent over the border to cause mischief.

Bangladesh?You mean the country that rejected Pakistan and decided to be independent.Where thousands were butchered by Pak Army?

Afghanistan?Is Afghanistan Pakistan's colony that India must answer to Pakistan for what it does in Afghanistan.

this post is a perfect example of how clueless the indians are about what is happening and has happened in kashmir.

Let me tell you a few things i know as a local kashmiri:

1) an average kashmiri dislikes india (i am being polite here) for reasons which are far from the knowledge of indians. ALL OF THEM MIGHT NOT LOVE PAKISTAN (although a big part of our population does) BUT THEY HATE BEING CALLED INDIAN. There are kashmiris who like india solely because of financial benefits needless to say they are very few.

2) Army was brought in kashmir in around the 1950s so no sherlock, army didnt come after pandits left. And their number is ever increasing . This is one more reason why india wants kashmir . They keep those animals in here.

3) now about the more sensitive and controversial issue of kashmiri pandits. Are kashmiri muslims to be blamed for their exodus? NO . And NO they were not butchered. Yes a total of 209 kashmiri pandits were lost during that period of time(which should never have happened) as compared to "officially recorded" 50000+ kashmiri muslims (actual number ranging between 1.5 lakhs to 2 lakhs). And majority of those 209 were not killed on some communal lines(yes some were) but they mostly were target killings involving pandits who spread anti-kashmiri sentiments (example using media such as radio etc ;;; i donot condone it). . And needless to say kashmiri civilians had nothing to do with it except that they many a times shielded the pandits. Even their exodus was due to a conspiracy of the then governor jagmohan who said "every kashmiri muslim is a terrorist and only bullet is the solution of kashmir problem"(this is recorded in a newspaper) and ordered pandits to leave because he wanted a total military action performed on kashmiri muslims i.e. Bombarding certain areas and he did not want pandits to be caught in between. The operation did not go forward though .Let me ask you a question. when you are left in the middle of nowhere (na ghar ka na ghaat ka) what do you do?
I'll tell you. You try to get your hands on whatever you can. When all of it happened , what do you think the pandits would have said to the outsiders? Everything that could gain them sympathy and benefits.

I know indians have been brainwashed and spoon fed biased information over decades (china does something similar) to portray kashmiris as evil beings who killed pandits and all while we used to consider them our brothers (not sure what kashmiris in general think of them now because they left us to die alone).
Was it malcolm X who said “If you are not careful, the
newspapers will have you
hating the people who are
being oppressed and
loving the people who are
doing the oppressing.”

Where did you read your history?

Army came to KAshmir in 1940s to defend the border not in the civilian areas.That much army presence is in every bordering state.

So only few Kashmir Pandits were killed.LOL.How many Pandits are left now in Kashmir valley.

So the Pandits were spreading anti Kashmiri feeling by being loyal to their country.Another of your stupid gems.

So after staying together suddenly the Pandits became non KAshmiris because they wont support the terrorists sent by Pakistan.

And Those Kashmiris according to you who hate being called Indian,65% of them participate in Indian elections.

Take your propoganda and shove it.

Absolutely disgusting behavior from the university. The ones who should have been expelled were the intolerant psychos that wanted blood just because a few of their peers supported Pakistan in a cricket match.

I'd like to know what the majority of Indians feel about this. Some posters here are also supporting the Uni's decision so it seems like a widespread ideology of intolerance.

Then we have a few Indian posters saying that the Indi-Pak cricket rivalry is over.

Pakistan is an enemy of India and if anyone supports it over India then public will have repurrcussions.

 

[Bilal7]

Pakistan is an enemy of India and if anyone supports it over India then public will have repurrcussions.

Well that is a very intolerant public considering the support was only over a cricket match. Maybe the Indians living in England should receive the same treatment.

On one hand you have all these peace talks, aman ki asha stuff, bringing Wasim and Pakistani umpires into the IPL and on the other you have stuff like this. Hypocrites.

Why don't you go ahead and deport Wasim too? He obviously support Pakistan over India and is an enemy himself.

 

[Cochin_wala]

This Ummah business really does seem to rankle with Indian non-muslims, and I suppose that is partly due to being in an area which is geographically so close to so many Muslim nations. Is this why India is always trying to build a Hindu version of the Ummah with the Hindutva movement? It seems that with the rise of Modi, Hindutva presented as secularism is again going to be the rallying cry.

But really, why so sensitive about a few Kashmiri students celebrating a win for Pakistan? It was a cricket match, not a war. How do you think that makes Pakistani Kashmiris feel? Probably thanking their lucky stars that they are free to think what they want without getting assaulted by soldiers and then punished by the State.

I believe north Indian Hindus are now like a organized religion modelled on Islamic invasion and some direct religious inputs from Arabs. Modi is the product of this organized north Indian Hindutva which includes divisions/cadres. the ideas of Hedgewar and Golwalkar power them, Modi being a RSS cadre is to be noted.

Sometimes a aggressive leader like Modi may be the need of the hour. I believe Modi if he is successful in getting into power, slowly dethroning democracy for Hindutva based theocratic state(with the support and blessings of RSS and Hindu extremists) will be a new age Hitler who will regain "Hindu swabhimaan" in the sense that his rule *will* show who is the big brother in south Asia. attacking Pakistan occupied Kashmir J1hadis perhaps annexing this region to India, Kashmir valley settled by mainland Indians to resolve the issue for once and all, Merciless treatment met to aggressive religious minority(not Christian, not Buddists) are something I expects. you know him as in Godhra riots management. He is a Abhinav Hitler and may be, with our classy neighbours we will give power to him. but, being a minority Abrahamic religion follower(or rather born to it) I and others will live as Second/Third class citizen under Hindu rule for the next centuries. it is truely the aggression from western border and others which is creating problems for minorities like us.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well that is a very intolerant public considering the support was only over a cricket match. Maybe the Indians living in England should receive the same treatment.

On one hand you have all these peace talks, aman ki asha stuff, bringing Wasim and Pakistani umpires into the IPL and on the other you have stuff like this. Hypocrites.

Why don't you go ahead and deport Wasim too? He obviously support Pakistan over India and is an enemy himself.

An Indian shouting Pakistan Zindabad in India will face repurrcussions.

Wasim is not shouting Pakistan Zindabad in middle of IPL matches and he is employed by KKR as a coach not by Team India.There is a reason why despite being held in very high esteem Wasim has never been approached to have even a consultant role with Team India.

Aman ki Asha is a media gimmick by TOI group.

And Intolerant?Not too long ago Pakistanis were caught killing Indians in Mumbai.Your Ex-President and Present PM are on record saying that Pakistan supported terrorism in India.

International terrorists like Masood Azhar and Hafiz Saeed roam freely in Pakistan when they are wanted by interpol for terrorist activities in India.They make jalsas and call for jihad againist India

And then you teach us tolerance.ROFL.

 

[ahmedzee]

Some Indian posters should realize this was a cricket match...not a war that was going on in the border...some extremely ridiculous and pathetic comments so far by some well respected indian posters...

 

[90MPH]

Why are u so concerned about gujarat,is it a part of pakistan no,whatever happened in gujarat was unfortunate and everybody condemned it,so was godhra,what is conditions of minorities in pakistan care to explain,hardliners are everywhere my friend,but u can't held every body responsible for it

sent from dil se

Hahaha, touched a raw nerve.

No surprise to see you defending Modi and his extremist thugs.

Lol at "unfortunate and everybody condemned".

It was planned mass murder given the green light by the Modi and his thugs. He and all his thugs not only got away with murder but got rewarded to contest elections.

 

[90MPH]

Only in India would supporters of opposition teams be expelled in Universities. Only and only in India...
disgusting stuff from the university.

So true.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I believe north Indian Hindus are now like a organized religion modelled on Islamic invasion and some direct religious inputs from Arabs. Modi is the product of this organized north Indian Hindutva which includes divisions/cadres. the ideas of Hedgewar and Golwalkar power them, Modi being a RSS cadre is to be noted.

Sometimes a aggressive leader like Modi may be the need of the hour. I believe Modi if he is successful in getting into power, slowly dethroning democracy for Hindutva based theocratic state(with the support and blessings of RSS and Hindu extremists) will be a new age Hitler who will regain "Hindu swabhimaan" in the sense that his rule *will* show who is the big brother in south Asia. attacking Pakistan occupied Kashmir J1hadis perhaps annexing this region to India, Kashmir valley settled by mainland Indians to resolve the issue for once and all, Merciless treatment met to aggressive religious minority(not Christian, not Buddists) are something I expects. you know him as in Godhra riots management. He is a Abhinav Hitler and may be, with our classy neighbours we will give power to him. but, being a minority Abrahamic religion follower(or rather born to it) I and others will live as Second/Third class citizen under Hindu rule for the next centuries. it is truely the aggression from western border and others which is creating problems for minorities like us.

I guess so, it would explain the support of your fellow Indian PP'ers for such draconian punishment on innocent students for failing to fall in line with the thinking. Like I said it was just a cricket match and so many Indians were saying that Indians consider matches against Australia and England more important than local rivalry, but I guess this shows those words to be hollow.

I would suggest you guys if you want to emulate England and Australia to learn some tolerance from them rather than look to emulate Islamic invasion with a right wing Hindu Ummah. But if you are going to have this Hindu Ummah then give it a fitting label. Hindu/Ummah could make a nice acronym like Hummus

 

[endymion248]

They've taken a step too far. But in reality its not uncommon for people to feel upset by this.
There are enough English people here who feel British Asians should be supporting England and its not right they support the country of their ancestors.
I'm sure had Pakistani's been supporting India in Pakistan, you can be assured there will be some very unhappy people.

Did the British ask Indians to support England cricket team in 1930s? No.

This is a completely different matter. Brit Asians have migrated by choice to UK from a free country, you can't compare that to these oppressed people who have no choice.

 

[KB-24]

Nationalism, the new Deen!

 

[Ambi]

Magisterial probe into suspension of Kashmiri students

MEERUT: Amagisterial probe has been ordered into the events leading to the suspension of 67Kashmiri student Swami Vivekanand Subharti University(SVSU) here after they reportedly cheered for Pakistan during theIndia-Pak matchin the Asia Cup on Sunday.Officials said the additional city magistrate (Sadar) would conduct the inquiry.

Reports said a clash broke out between groups of students after some of them allegedly celebratedwhen India lost the match.SVSU vice-chancellor Manzoor Ahmad said the issue has been"unnecessarily politicized".

"It is true the boys had raised pro-Pakistan slogans but there was no fight between students, since at that point, only Kashmiri students were watching the match in that particular hostel," he said."After this incident, they were suspended by the warden for three days. But they continued to be defiant as they did not appeal the decision.'' Ahmad said resentment grew among other students. "To save the situation from worsening, we asked the erring students to leave for Delhi as Meerut, being highly communally sensitive, would be unsafe for them. So we arranged a few buses and dispatched them."

In a similar incident, Handia Mohalla in Lalkurti area of Meerut also witnessed cheering by a few local youth after Pakistan won the match.Sources said the altercation could have snowballed into a major communal clash if police had not controlled the situation in time.

The incidents took political overtones when BJP leaders demanded strict action against the culprits including filing of cases under sections relating to treason.Later a delegation led by BJP MLA Satyaprakash Agarwal surrounded the SSP's office and demanded strict action against the students as well as Handia Mohalla youths. According to Agarwal, the incident at Subharti University established there was "a terrorist connection" here.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...of-Kashmiri-students/articleshow/31510426.cms

 

[Vayuu]

Re: Cricket: Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win

Hahaha, touched a raw nerve.

No surprise to see you defending Modi and his extremist thugs.

Lol at "unfortunate and everybody condemned".

It was planned mass murder given the green light by the Modi and his thugs. He and all his thugs not only got away with murder but got rewarded to contest elections.

No body touched no bodies raw nerve buddy and I am not defending any one ,whatever happened in gujarat was unfortunate but it was in retaliation of godhra,both were unfortunate,let the court decide if someone is guilty or not,he has been proven innocent by court,his wave is on not because of him being Hindu,but because of his development in gujarat and people have high hopes from him,there has not been any riots in gujarat since 2002,but the ethnic cleansing of minorities is going on and on in pakistan,if u r so much concerned,why don't u take step against those responsible?.

sent from dil se

 

[Vayuu]

Re: Cricket: Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win

I guess so, it would explain the support of your fellow Indian PP'ers for such draconian punishment on innocent students for failing to fall in line with the thinking. Like I said it was just a cricket match and so many Indians were saying that Indians consider matches against Australia and England more important than local rivalry, but I guess this shows those words to be hollow.

I would suggest you guys if you want to emulate England and Australia to learn some tolerance from them rather than look to emulate Islamic invasion with a right wing Hindu Ummah. But if you are going to have this Hindu Ummah then give it a fitting label. Hindu/Ummah could make a nice acronym like Hummus

Well u can keep ur ummah,mommah to ur self we don't need that,it's u guys who need tolerance not us,At least these idiots have right to express their views in front of people,I bet if it was some minority in pakistan he and his family would not only be threatened but also beaten to death.

sent from dil se

 

[amax]

I believe north Indian Hindus are now like a organized religion modelled on Islamic invasion and some direct religious inputs from Arabs. Modi is the product of this organized north Indian Hindutva which includes divisions/cadres. the ideas of Hedgewar and Golwalkar power them, Modi being a RSS cadre is to be noted.

Sometimes a aggressive leader like Modi may be the need of the hour. I believe Modi if he is successful in getting into power, slowly dethroning democracy for Hindutva based theocratic state(with the support and blessings of RSS and Hindu extremists) will be a new age Hitler who will regain "Hindu swabhimaan" in the sense that his rule *will* show who is the big brother in south Asia. attacking Pakistan occupied Kashmir J1hadis perhaps annexing this region to India, Kashmir valley settled by mainland Indians to resolve the issue for once and all, Merciless treatment met to aggressive religious minority(not Christian, not Buddists) are something I expects. you know him as in Godhra riots management. He is a Abhinav Hitler and may be, with our classy neighbours we will give power to him. but, being a minority Abrahamic religion follower(or rather born to it) I and others will live as Second/Third class citizen under Hindu rule for the next centuries. it is truely the aggression from western border and others which is creating problems for minorities like us.

That Ultra right sentiment in Hindu Urban middle class can kill the peace in region by allowing extremists way into mainstream politics. The result of this extremism meets jingoism will be disastrous for whole region ; it will remain as the ever increasing ghetto of one billion poor and will seriously hurt the efforts of other countries in region to move out of this poverty hellhole.This all sound ironic as India is the biggest victim of this poverty.

It is really strange to see Indian youth having such an ultra right leaning, while historically youth mostly side toward left.

 

[amax]

Well u can keep ur ummah,mommah to ur self we don't need that,it's u guys who need tolerance not us,At least these idiots have right to express their views in front of people,I bet if it was some minority in pakistan he and his family would not only be threatened but also beaten to death.

sent from dil se

you are not getting the point, those minorities will be threatened in Pakistan by individual/extremist/non state elements but they are not in mainstream politics, mark my word, they could never enter mainstream political spectrum of Pakistan as they will never get votes . While the scenario cochin_wala is suggesting in India is that those extremists are part of main stream politics of India as well and will in future have key powers in state, this is very serious situation specially them having such a large mass vote bank . There is lot of difference b/w two scenarios.

 

[Cochin_wala]

That Ultra right sentiment in Hindu Urban middle class can kill the peace in region by allowing extremists way into mainstream politics. The result of this extremism meets jingoism will be disastrous for whole region ; it will remain as the ever increasing ghetto of one billion poor and will seriously hurt the efforts of other countries in region to move out of this poverty hellhole.This all sound ironic as India is the biggest victim of this poverty.
It is really strange to see Indian youth having such an ultra right leaning, while historically youth mostly side toward left.

Believe me, Sanghparivar supporters are a good number in north Indian states and they may win this Loksabha election. and they believe Modi is a ointment for all the burns and cracks they have. Modi bhakths in Indian/Pak BBS/forums are a known phenomenon. Modi is just a random face of Sanghparivar. saffronists wants to make India a Iran or Saudia for Hindus. the 22-25 crore minorities are going to suffer. Educated Hindus or uneducated, they are simply supporting Sanghparivar agenda of Hindu nation now. their logic is "Muslims have n number of countries, Christians have n number of countries and we Hindus don't have a country for us..Hindustan it is". after Gujarat success of Modi, Hindu rashtra demand has increased multi fold. secular nature of Hinduism is a myth now, atleast in northern India. most of the Sanghies on internet are just fake Atheists-Tolerance preachers these days as Hindu society is now more and more Saffronized. laws are framed for reflecting Hindutva in states like Gujarat- eg. ban against cow slaughter.
Bhakt means devotee/worshipper.

Personally, I feel this region of south Asia is facing the problem of "too much religion". Islamic extremism, Hindu nationalism. two major religions are creating havocs in the region.

 

[Vayuu]

Re: Cricket: Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win

you are not getting the point, those minorities will be threatened in Pakistan by individual/extremist/non state elements but they are not in mainstream politics, mark my word, they could never enter mainstream political spectrum of Pakistan as they will never get votes . While the scenario cochin_wala is suggesting in India is that those extremists are part of main stream politics of India as well and will in future have key powers in state, this is very serious situation specially them having such a large mass vote bank . There is lot of difference b/w two scenarios.

Well i got ur point,my point is even these parties have realised that,development is the way to go,people are not fools who will favor religion.

sent from dil se

 

[hafeezrocks]

Believe me, Sanghparivar supporters are a good number in north Indian states and they may win this Loksabha election. and they believe Modi is a ointment for all the burns and cracks they have. Modi bhakths in Indian/Pak BBS/forums are a known phenomenon. Modi is just a random face of Sanghparivar. saffronists wants to make India a Iran or Saudia for Hindus. the 22-25 crore minorities are going to suffer. Educated Hindus or uneducated, they are simply supporting Sanghparivar agenda of Hindu nation now. their logic is "Muslims have n number of countries, Christians have n number of countries and we Hindus don't have a country for us..Hindustan it is". after Gujarat success of Modi, Hindu rashtra demand has increased multi fold. secular nature of Hinduism is a myth now, atleast in northern India. most of the Sanghies on internet are just fake Atheists-Tolerance preachers these days as Hindu society is now more and more Saffronized. laws are framed for reflecting Hindutva in states like Gujarat- eg. ban against cow slaughter.
Bhakt means devotee/worshipper.

Personally, I feel this region of south Asia is facing the problem of "too much religion". Islamic extremism, Hindu nationalism. two major religions are creating havocs in the region.

How are things in Southern India ? Are there no militant Hindus there or Militant version of Hinduism being practiced ? What about Modi's popularity ?

 

[Cochin_wala]

How are things in Southern India ? Are there no militant Hindus there or Militant version of Hinduism being practiced ? What about Modi's popularity ?

Hinduism in south India is much more tolerant. but, north Indian elements are changing this to bring more polarization. Shiv Sena, RSS etc are now common in most south Indian states. each of them have units in front of popular temples and Chaddi wale with sticks are seen brainwashing youths and kids and doing "route march" sometimes in many towns. while Karnataka was ruled by BJP for many years. the attacks on Mangalore's Churches were done during these times. Sri Rama Sene and such militant outfits are there. Saffron outfits usually targets Christians as they are defenceless unlike Muslims who are organized and aggressive most of the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Christian_violence_in_Karnataka

 

[Indiafan]

Believe me, Sanghparivar supporters are a good number in north Indian states and they may win this Loksabha election. and they believe Modi is a ointment for all the burns and cracks they have. Modi bhakths in Indian/Pak BBS/forums are a known phenomenon. Modi is just a random face of Sanghparivar. saffronists wants to make India a Iran or Saudia for Hindus. the 22-25 crore minorities are going to suffer. Educated Hindus or uneducated, they are simply supporting Sanghparivar agenda of Hindu nation now. their logic is "Muslims have n number of countries, Christians have n number of countries and we Hindus don't have a country for us..Hindustan it is". after Gujarat success of Modi, Hindu rashtra demand has increased multi fold. secular nature of Hinduism is a myth now, atleast in northern India. most of the Sanghies on internet are just fake Atheists-Tolerance preachers these days as Hindu society is now more and more Saffronized. laws are framed for reflecting Hindutva in states like Gujarat- eg. ban against cow slaughter.
Bhakt means devotee/worshipper.

Personally, I feel this region of south Asia is facing the problem of "too much religion". Islamic extremism, Hindu nationalism. two major religions are creating havocs in the region.

The part you say about Modi and Sangh Parivar making India a haven for Hindu rightist is never going to happen. the majority of support for Modi and BJP currently is because of congress's failed policy and Modi's promise of greater economy. the day they try to impose hindutva or anything else on India, they will be thrown out of power, not to mention they will have no allies standing with them

And no, I don't know how much of north India you have been to, but your statement about lack of secularism there is completely false. In fact in many northern regions, the vote bank appeasements of minorities is on it's peak.

Sangh Parivar, etc are much fringe groups and nothing is going to happen just because BJP comes to power. Just like nothing happened when Vajpayee became Prime Minister last time BJP came to power

 

[Ambi]

Believe me, Sanghparivar supporters are a good number in north Indian states and they may win this Loksabha election. and they believe Modi is a ointment for all the burns and cracks they have. Modi bhakths in Indian/Pak BBS/forums are a known phenomenon. Modi is just a random face of Sanghparivar. saffronists wants to make India a Iran or Saudia for Hindus. the 22-25 crore minorities are going to suffer. Educated Hindus or uneducated, they are simply supporting Sanghparivar agenda of Hindu nation now. their logic is "Muslims have n number of countries, Christians have n number of countries and we Hindus don't have a country for us..Hindustan it is". after Gujarat success of Modi, Hindu rashtra demand has increased multi fold. secular nature of Hinduism is a myth now, atleast in northern India. most of the Sanghies on internet are just fake Atheists-Tolerance preachers these days as Hindu society is now more and more Saffronized. laws are framed for reflecting Hindutva in states like Gujarat- eg. ban against cow slaughter.
Bhakt means devotee/worshipper.

Personally, I feel this region of south Asia is facing the problem of "too much religion". Islamic extremism, Hindu nationalism. two major religions are creating havocs in the region.

South india should separate from Indian union ,i think this is the only way to wipe out both Hindu and Muslim religious extremists from here.

 

[Indiafan]

you are not getting the point, those minorities will be threatened in Pakistan by individual/extremist/non state elements but they are not in mainstream politics, mark my word, they could never enter mainstream political spectrum of Pakistan as they will never get votes . While the scenario cochin_wala is suggesting in India is that those extremists are part of main stream politics of India as well and will in future have key powers in state, this is very serious situation specially them having such a large mass vote bank . There is lot of difference b/w two scenarios.

They are not part of main stream politics. Comparing BJP to those fringe groups of extremists is like comparing PTI to the Jamats

 

[Indiafan]

But really, why so sensitive about a few Kashmiri students celebrating a win for Pakistan? It was a cricket match, not a war. .

Absolutely disgusting behavior from the university. The ones who should have been expelled were the intolerant psychos that wanted blood just because a few of their peers supported Pakistan in a cricket match.

I'd like to know what the majority of Indians feel about this. Some posters here are also supporting the Uni's decision so it seems like a widespread ideology of intolerance.

Then we have a few Indian posters saying that the Indi-Pak cricket rivalry is over.

. Like I said it was just a cricket match and so many Indians were saying that Indians consider matches against Australia and England more important than local rivalry, but I guess this shows those words to be hollow.

Just to put things a bit in perspective here, many Indians have it in their psyche about the recent terror attacks which were traced back to Pakistan and which Pakistan did nothing about. The master minds are roaming free and preaching in Pakistan. I remember you yourself Captain Rishwat, claiming that as long as these guys don't break laws in Pakistan, its ok if they kill hundreds in other countries.

Now many of those people who were locally involved were brain washed guys who supported Pakistan. So it is nothing to do with the cricket match itself. Anti-Pakistan feeling is at a high currently in India. And those who support Pakistan are seen as potential terrorists for the above mentioned reasons. How can you support a country which hides people who master mind terrorist attacks in India? That's how the thinking goes

Now, if you want my opinions, I always say that you cannot rule an entire Region by force for long. We can only win over the Kashmiris by love and affection, not by banning their voice or forcing them. India has been working on this for a long time now. I believe these kind of Pakistan supporting voice are in the minority now. They are very vocal though because some people's livelihood and power depend on continuous strife over Kashmir and not having peace in the region.

But let's not undo our goodwill by such acts. Lets continue winning Kashmiris over with love and respect. We have been doing a good job of it and now most Kashmiris just want peace. Of course the few who don't want peace would try to drum up feelings, try to provoke others, etc. Best to ignore them

 

[eradicator]

North India Bashing thread.

 

[Indiana Jones]

Believe me, Sanghparivar supporters are a good number in north Indian states and they may win this Loksabha election. and they believe Modi is a ointment for all the burns and cracks they have. Modi bhakths in Indian/Pak BBS/forums are a known phenomenon. Modi is just a random face of Sanghparivar. saffronists wants to make India a Iran or Saudia for Hindus. the 22-25 crore minorities are going to suffer. Educated Hindus or uneducated, they are simply supporting Sanghparivar agenda of Hindu nation now. their logic is "Muslims have n number of countries, Christians have n number of countries and we Hindus don't have a country for us..Hindustan it is". after Gujarat success of Modi, Hindu rashtra demand has increased multi fold. secular nature of Hinduism is a myth now, atleast in northern India. most of the Sanghies on internet are just fake Atheists-Tolerance preachers these days as Hindu society is now more and more Saffronized. laws are framed for reflecting Hindutva in states like Gujarat- eg. ban against cow slaughter.
Bhakt means devotee/worshipper.

Personally, I feel this region of south Asia is facing the problem of "too much religion". Islamic extremism, Hindu nationalism. two major religions are creating havocs in the region.

Are you for real? You sit in far down south India and writing about what north Indians think? I bet you have never stepped out of kochin in your life. Do you believe people would vote for a joker like Rahul Gandhi? And you believe there will be no anti incumbency factor after 10 years of Congress rule? and people are voting for modi because they want a Hindu nation? Lol. Remember this, only Hindu majority can be a secular country. Show me one Islamic majority country which is secular? Look what happened in your country in Kashmir where there is Muslim majority..they killed, raped and displaced 5 lakhs of Hindu pundits from their homeland and this Hindu majority country is a silent spectator to this. Where in a Muslim majority country can allow this to happen. I'm not going to talk about what's happening in your own state where the hot bed of Islamic terrorism is very relevant. This country needs a man like modi who puts India first before fake secularism. Once bjp comes to power, Hindu pundits will be safeguarded in Kashmir and all the anti nationals will be put behind bars. That's the way to go. India first, not your pseudo secularism.

 

[Vayuu]

Re: Cricket: Indian University Expels Kashmiris for Celebrating Pak Win

Are you for real? You sit in far down south India and writing about what north Indians think? I bet you have never stepped out of kochin in your life. Do you believe people would vote for a joker like Rahul Gandhi? And you believe there will be no anti incumbency factor after 10 years of Congress rule? and people are voting for modi because they want a Hindu nation? Lol. Remember this, only Hindu majority can be a secular country. Show me one Islamic majority country which is secular? Look what happened in your country in Kashmir where there is Muslim majority..they killed, raped and displaced 5 lakhs of Hindu pundits from their homeland and this Hindu majority country is a silent spectator to this. Where in a Muslim majority country can allow this to happen. I'm not going to talk about what's happening in your own state where the hot bed of Islamic terrorism is very relevant. This country needs a man like modi who puts India first before fake secularism. Once bjp comes to power, Hindu pundits will be safeguarded in Kashmir and all the anti nationals will be put behind bars. That's the way to go. India first, not your pseudo secularism.

I even doubt he is from cochin he is some pretender.

sent from dil se

 

[rayfder]

Are you for real? You sit in far down south India and writing about what north Indians think? I bet you have never stepped out of kochin in your life. Do you believe people would vote for a joker like Rahul Gandhi? And you believe there will be no anti incumbency factor after 10 years of Congress rule? and people are voting for modi because they want a Hindu nation? Lol. Remember this, only Hindu majority can be a secular country. Show me one Islamic majority country which is secular? Look what happened in your country in Kashmir where there is Muslim majority..they killed, raped and displaced 5 lakhs of Hindu pundits from their homeland and this Hindu majority country is a silent spectator to this. Where in a Muslim majority country can allow this to happen. I'm not going to talk about what's happening in your own state where the hot bed of Islamic terrorism is very relevant. This country needs a man like modi who puts India first before fake secularism. Once bjp comes to power, Hindu pundits will be safeguarded in Kashmir and all the anti nationals will be put behind bars. That's the way to go. India first, not your pseudo secularism.

What is the muslim population of Kashmir pre-1989 and now, many Kashmiri muslims are also displaced and where r those pandits mostly in Jammu. The police-custodial killings rapes committed by BSF ,paramilitary and Indian police, what about that. Regarding Manipur, northeast, Maoism, Bengal, Orissa and other states asking for separation where ur lovable army are raping and murdering Hindus. You need an Aurangzeb and then you'll know how better option he is than the current politicians. What RSS can do is giving govt. positions and quotaas to its party members and activists, you people will still stay in the gutter finding others to blame for your own sorry situation.

Kashmiris who want peace have head buried deep in the sand that won't continue or long, Indian corrupt system does'nt understand hindu, muslim, only status quo and divisive politics to keep the status quo. These right wing clowns are only to crush the minorities, rest of economy and other lala dreams is equally bs.

 

[Fire Bird]

No, people would just lol at that phrase.

Lots of Afghans were cheering for Afghanistan during the AFG vs Pak game but I don't hear about anyone being expelled or killed.

Stop making baseless accusations and become more tolerant. Especially when its only cricket.

As chilled out as you and I are, the average person in the SC is not so People wouldn't be so tolerant when a Pakistani citizen roots for Afghanistan. Imagine the scenario when he roots for India (Ind-Pak history is more bitter than Pak-Afg history) for an important match. I can't believe if you say he wont get even mild abuse for it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just to put things a bit in perspective here, many Indians have it in their psyche about the recent terror attacks which were traced back to Pakistan and which Pakistan did nothing about. The master minds are roaming free and preaching in Pakistan. I remember you yourself Captain Rishwat, claiming that as long as these guys don't break laws in Pakistan, its ok if they kill hundreds in other countries.

Can you please provide the quote where I said that, because I said no such thing. I'm not even sure why you brought that up, are you suggesting these students were potential terrorists?

 

[Indiana Jones]

What is the muslim population of Kashmir pre-1989 and now, many Kashmiri muslims are also displaced and where r those pandits mostly in Jammu. The police-custodial killings rapes committed by BSF ,paramilitary and Indian police, what about that. Regarding Manipur, northeast, Maoism, Bengal, Orissa and other states asking for separation where ur lovable army are raping and murdering Hindus. You need an Aurangzeb and then you'll know how better option he is than the current politicians. What RSS can do is giving govt. positions and quotaas to its party members and activists, you people will still stay in the gutter finding others to blame for your own sorry situation.

Kashmiris who want peace have head buried deep in the sand that won't continue or long, Indian corrupt system does'nt understand hindu, muslim, only status quo and divisive politics to keep the status quo. These right wing clowns are only to crush the minorities, rest of economy and other lala dreams is equally bs.

Dude, you need some serious medical attention. I'm not going to reply your garbage. Adios.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What is the muslim population of Kashmir pre-1989 and now, many Kashmiri muslims are also displaced and where r those pandits mostly in Jammu. The police-custodial killings rapes committed by BSF ,paramilitary and Indian police, what about that. Regarding Manipur, northeast, Maoism, Bengal, Orissa and other states asking for separation where ur lovable army are raping and murdering Hindus. You need an Aurangzeb and then you'll know how better option he is than the current politicians. What RSS can do is giving govt. positions and quotaas to its party members and activists, you people will still stay in the gutter finding others to blame for your own sorry situation.

Kashmiris who want peace have head buried deep in the sand that won't continue or long, Indian corrupt system does'nt understand hindu, muslim, only status quo and divisive politics to keep the status quo. These right wing clowns are only to crush the minorities, rest of economy and other lala dreams is equally bs.

LOL.Maoism is limited to forest hinterlands hardly have much support in most civilian areas.

Bengal/Orissa asking for separation?When?Where?

Despite all the BS you have spouted India is still the biggest economy/military in south east asia.

 

[Indiana Jones]

LOL.Maoism is limited to forest hinterlands hardly have much support in most civilian areas.

Bengal/Orissa asking for separation?When?Where?

Despite all the BS you have spouted India is still the biggest economy/military in south east asia.

More good news coming in bro. Sedition charges s been booked against these Kashmiri students. Lol. Read this. Ha ha ha..


Meerut Police have registered a case of sedition against the 67 Kashmiri students of Meerut's Swami Vivekanand Subharti University (SVSU) who allegedly celebrated the victory of Pakistan over India in a cricket match on Saturday.

The case of sedition was registered under section 124 (a) of the Indian Penal Code against unknown students of SVSU on Wednesday.

"We have registered the case against unknown students and the culprits would be brought into record after investigation," said senior superintendent of police Onkar Singh.

A delegation of Bharatiya Janata Party leaders met the university's vice chancellor Dr Manzoor Ahmad and management officials demanding stern action against the students who praised Pakistan terming their act "anti-national".

A group of students associated with youth wing of the safforn party also burnt the effigy of the vice chancellor while students in CCS University took out Ahmad's symbolic funeral procession inside the premises blaming him for being lenient to the students.

The trouble began on Saturday when a group of local and Kashmiri students were watching the India-Pakistan match in SVSU's Madan Lal Dhingra Hostel.

A group of Kashmiri students allegedly celebrated Pakistan's victory over India and a few of them shouted slogan "Pakistan Zindabad" on the way back to their rooms. Their act triggered tension in the university.

The university management initiated a three-tier inquiry and questioned other Kashmiri students who refused to divulge the identity of those who were involved in the incident. As a result, the management suspended all 67 Kashmiri students residing in the hostel.

The suspended students were asked to vacate the hostel and go back to their homes in Jammu and Kashmir. They were dropped at Ghaziabad and Delhi railway station under police security.

Experts believe that those who are supporting the errant students by concealing their names can also be charged with conspiracy under section 120 (b).

The registration of case under 124(a) would block the possibility of revoking the suspension of students who have been pursuing courses in technology, law and business administration in the university.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...for-celebrating-pak-win/article1-1191549.aspx

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Experts believe that those who are supporting the errant students by concealing their names can also be charged with conspiracy under section 120 (b).

Conspiracy for what? Aiding and abetting the supporting of Pakistan cricket team?

 

[amax]

They are not part of main stream politics. Comparing BJP to those fringe groups of extremists is like comparing PTI to the Jamats

I dont know about rest of BJB leadership but was listening to a campaign speech of one of their central leaders Modi, he was was saying something along the lines. "Congress govt is coward that it is providing diplomatic protocol / lunch to envoys from China and Pakistan".

If you go deep into such statements; than playing with raw jingoistic emotions of masses by taking foreign policy (that to by a central leader) down to primitive "ghairat/coward/bravery" sentiments of a common man is a very very dangerous thing. Tbh "fringe leader" street loud speaker stuff. As for Imran and other right wing Pak leader are concerned you will hardly see them taking foreign policy to raw jingoistic sentiment of masses regarding neighbors.

 

[kaayal]

@amax,Modi is an RSS leader.you will not hear anything better from him.

On topic:the university could have just ignored this incident.by suspending all kashmiri students for the stupid action of a few,they are alienating them even more.but can't blame the VC.it's UP,anything can happen.good that they were sent back to their state with proper security and are safe now.

 

[Nido]

The Plot Thickens:67 Kashmiri Students are Now Booked for Sedition

NEW DELHI: Indian police have registered a case of sedition against the 67 Kashmiri students of Meerut's Swami Vivekanand Subharti University (SVSU) for celebrating the victory of Pakistan over India in a crucial match of Asia Cup.

The Meerut police registered case under section 124a, 153 a, and 427. The students have all been sent back to the Kashmir Valley.

The trouble began on Saturday when a group of local and Kashmiri students were watching the India-Pakistan match in SVSU's Madan Lal Dhingra Hostel.

A group of Kashmiri students celebrated Pakistan's victory over India and a few of them shouted slogan "Pakistan Zindabad" on the way back to their rooms. Their act triggered tension in the university.

As a result, the management suspended all 67 Kashmiri students residing in the hostel.

Source: http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-1...ked-for-sedition-over-celebrating-Pak-victory

 

[eradicator]

Welcome move if this is going to prevent more Pro-Pak Celebrations in India in the future.

 

[Convict]

Pretty disgraceful.

One thing I love about Australian crowds is that you do get supporters from other teams barracking for their country as well.

It's also one of the great things about pakpassion where we have posters from all the nations discussing cricket together and supporting their teams.

 

[AZ]

Re: The Plot Thickens:67 Kashmiri Students are Now Booked for Sedition

Shining India at its luminescent best.

 

[cricf@n]

That means all the indian migrant in england south africa & australia should be packed off coz they support india living in those countries?

 

[saeedhk]

Shameful.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why can't they be like England? Here Kashmiri cricket fans are free to show their support for whoever they want in a friendly and welcoming atmosphere.

 

[Convict]

Don't be a fool. Pakistan is not India's friendly country. We have had 5 wars with them, they still want a part of our country. There are anti India terrorists in Pakistan roaming freely. Showing loyalty to your enemy country the worst kind of crime you can commit .

And this is cricket not politics. Were the sixty seven students supporting the wars? Were they supporting terrorists?

If someone supports Australia or England in cricket does it mean that they also support the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Should Celtic fans in Scotland be charged with sedition?

 

[Waseem]

Shame on India for going this far, making fool of themselves because you have been trying to tell the world that the Kashmir is not a disputed region and people are happy to remain with India because some take part in elections.

Whether you admit or not but you are proving to world with this exaggeration that Kashmiris aren't happy with you.

 

[lilFlip]

On the topic, good news but I don't want these kids to be punished harshly. If they realize their mistake and apologize, the charges should be dropped. In fact news coming in that Kashmir chief minister called their actions morally wrong but he wants Uttar Pradesh chief minister to drop the charges. They might drop the charges against them. Hope this serves a strong warning to these kids and never indulge in these sort of activities in the future.

See, that's the root cause right there.

Does supporting Pak goes against some India law?

 

[amax]

Why can't they be like England? Here Kashmiri cricket fans are free to show their support for whoever they want in a friendly and welcoming atmosphere.

This is your typical bottom of the barrel third world; raw/primitive jingoistic/ethnical/religious etc emotions take precedence over humanitarian.

 

[Waseem]

On the topic, good news but I don't want these kids to be punished harshly. If they realize their mistake and apologize, the charges should be dropped. In fact news coming in that Kashmir chief minister called their actions morally wrong but he wants Uttar Pradesh chief minister to drop the charges. They might drop the charges against them. Hope this serves a strong warning to these kids and never indulge in these sort of activities in the future.

You know very well the only mistake they will realize is NOT to loudly celebrate, they will keep supporting same team no matter what happens.

 

[lilFlip]

Ehh? They not only supporting Pakistan cricket team, they shouted pro Pakistan slogans which is extremely provocative and inviting trouble in a country like India where the anti Pakistan sentiment is very strong. Don't consider this just a cricket match, cricket in India is like a religion and it just can't considered only as a sport. India has already been broken in two pieces by a religion and we don't want the same religion to broke our country further and join with Pakistan. This simply can't be allowed here. I myself live in meerut( the university situated here). I will see how this issue pans out here. This issue has only provoked me and my friends to join in BJP and fight against anti nationals.

edited

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Ehh? They not only supporting Pakistan cricket team, they shouted pro Pakistan slogans which is extremely provocative and inviting trouble in a country like India where the anti Pakistan sentiment is very strong. Don't consider this just a cricket match, cricket in India is like a religion and it just can't considered only as a sport. India has already been broken in two pieces by a religion and we don't want the same religion to broke our country further and join with Pakistan. This simply can't be allowed here. I myself live in meerut( the university situated here). I will see how this issue pans out here. This issue has only provoked me and my friends to join in BJP and fight against anti nationals.

Your BJP fundos have been well on course to win the elections for some time now, let's not be ridiculous and pretend that some Uni kids cheering Pakistan has flipped you and your friends over the edge.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: The Plot Thickens:67 Kashmiri Students are Now Booked for Sedition

And this is cricket not politics. Were the sixty seven students supporting the wars? Were they supporting terrorists?

If someone supports Australia or England in cricket does it mean that they also support the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Should Celtic fans in Scotland be charged with sedition?

Supporting Pakistan over India in India is a sensitive issue.You have no idea about it so please first gain some knowledge about the issue.In India Pakistan is viewed as an enemy country which supports killing of Indians by terrorists.So any support for Pakistan over India and shouting Pakistan Zindabad will have serious repurrcussions.Its like someone shouting hail hitler in middle of tel aviv.

 

[Indiana Jones]

See, that's the root cause right there.

Does supporting Pak goes against some India law?

Shouting pro Pakistan slogans is dangerous and supporting sedition. Pakistan exists because of sedition. Without sedition, Pakistan wouldn't be there.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: The Plot Thickens:67 Kashmiri Students are Now Booked for Sedition

See, that's the root cause right there.

Does supporting Pak goes against some India law?

Laws have been invoked as you see.Though i dont support invoking sedition laws for this issue but if your going to live in India and then support a country which supports killing of Indians then there will be a problem.

lol go paint your face orange, draw the nazi sign on your forehead and chant banemataram

Pathetic post.

Your BJP fundos have been well on course to win the elections for some time now, let's not be ridiculous and pretend that some Uni kids cheering Pakistan has flipped you and your friends over the edge.

Supporting a country which is involved in killing of Indians and supports terrorism in India is a matter of concern.

 

[Barragan]

That means all the indian migrant in england south africa & australia should be packed off coz they support india living in those countries?

+1

A lot of Indians go abroad to study and support their home nation.

 

[90MPH]

Don't be a fool. Pakistan is not India's friendly country. We have had 5 wars with them, they still want a part of our country. There are anti India terrorists in Pakistan roaming freely. Showing loyalty to your enemy country the worst kind of crime you can commit .

Who the hell are you to call someone a fool.

Only right wing BJP fundoos like you and your kind support these moves.

Only in India this happens. To ban Uni students just because they supported another team in a sports match.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: The Plot Thickens:67 Kashmiri Students are Now Booked for Sedition

+1

A lot of Indians go abroad to study and support their home nation.

Those are Indian citizens.And India doesnt support terrorism in Aus or Eng.

If English fans are offended when British Indians support India i feel they have the right to be.

 

[King Cobra]

If the students had supported

Australia : Thats fine

England : Thats fine

SA : Thats fine

WI: Thats fine

NZ: Thats fine

But Pakistan ?????????? Hello no , they are directly cheering the victory of the enemy nation and rubbing it in the faces of fellow Indians.

 

[dhump]

Pathetic behavior rather than solving problems and giving citizen equal rights and living standard lets press charges on them this will surely change there mind and they will love India and others will do it because exactly this is what is happening everywhere.

Revenge is a problem not a solution.

 

[Indiana Jones]

Who the hell are you to call someone a fool.

Only right wing BJP fundoos like you and your kind support these moves.

Only in India this happens. To ban Uni students just because they supported another team in a sports match.

Lol. I thought he wouldn't know anything about India - Pakistan relations. Hence, I called him a fool. Maybe I was wrong and I apologize to him if he took offense.

As far as the issue is concerned, they not only supported Pakistan but they shouted pro Pakistan slogans which is as bad as sedition. If they supported any other country, nobody cares, but supporting Pakistan is plain stupid and inviting trouble. But again, as I said if they apologize and realize their mistakes, they should be let off without any charges.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: The Plot Thickens:67 Kashmiri Students are Now Booked for Sedition

Who the hell are you to call someone a fool.

Only right wing BJP fundoos like you and your kind support these moves.

Only in India this happens. To ban Uni students just because they supported another team in a sports match.

No because they shouted Pakistan Zindabad in middle of India.And we all know the relation between the country isnt great.

 

[lilFlip]

So Pakpassion is owned by Pak govt.?Which is on record accepting that Pakistan as a matter of principle supports terrorism in India?

Yes you make fun of other people religion and then call them pathetic.Lol.

So Pak cricket team are Pakistani Govs' agents?

stop watching bollywood crap ffs

I never attacked anyone's religion. I just encouraged him to become a proper hindu nationalist

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: The Plot Thickens:67 Kashmiri Students are Now Booked for Sedition

So Pak cricket team are Pakistani Govs' agents?

stop watching bollywood crap ffs

I never attacked anyone's religion. I just encouraged him to become a proper hindu nationalist

What does shouting Pakistan Zindabad means??Please tell me.

There is no hindu muslim or christian or sikh nationalist but only Indian nationalist in my country thats what i believe.

The color saffron and the swastika are sacred hindu symbols and Vande Matram is our national song so please dont make fun of them.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Ehh? They not only supporting Pakistan cricket team, they shouted pro Pakistan slogans which is extremely provocative and inviting trouble in a country like India where the anti Pakistan sentiment is very strong. Don't consider this just a cricket match, cricket in India is like a religion and it just can't considered only as a sport. India has already been broken in two pieces by a religion and we don't want the same religion to broke our country further and join with Pakistan. This simply can't be allowed here. I myself live in meerut( the university situated here). I will see how this issue pans out here. This issue has only provoked me and my friends to join in BJP and fight against anti nationals.

LOLOL.

You sound like a Hindu terrorist in the making.

 

[Logical]

Lol bad bad week for India. Loving it though !

It feels like someone's wife loves us.

 

[Indiana Jones]

LOLOL.

You sound like a Hindu terrorist in the making.

What if I am a Christian? I'm a Christian terrorist? Lolol...fighting anti nationals doesn't mean I can only be a Hindu.. Lololol..

 

[90MPH]

Lol. I thought he wouldn't know anything about India - Pakistan relations. Hence, I called him a fool. Maybe I was wrong and I apologize to him if he took offense.

As far as the issue is concerned, they not only supported Pakistan but they shouted pro Pakistan slogans which is as bad as sedition. If they supported any other country, nobody cares, but supporting Pakistan is plain stupid and inviting trouble. But again, as I said if they apologize and realize their mistakes, they should be let off without any charges.

Apologise for what ??

All it shows how insecure you are over a cricket match.

Chanting Pakistan pro Slogans ?, whatever. What probably happened is they couldn't hide their emotions when Pak won, that's all.

I am not falling for Indian propaganda, all excuses to back up what has happened.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Laws have been invoked as you see.Though i dont support invoking sedition laws for this issue but if your going to live in India and then support a country which supports killing of Indians then there will be a problem.

Most of them weren't even supporting the Pakistan team, from the reports it was only a handful. But the Indian authorities got so enraged they have expelled the rest of the Kashmiri students who weren't able to give the names of the few who cheered for Pakistan.

Seriously, in this day and age you are defending this?

 

[hafeezrocks]

Its unbelievable that trolls like Indiana and CricketJoshila are given a free pass to further their anti-pakistani/anti muslim agenda 24/7 on this site.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Most of them weren't even supporting the Pakistan team, from the reports it was only a handful. But the Indian authorities got so enraged they have expelled the rest of the Kashmiri students who weren't able to give the names of the few who cheered for Pakistan.

Seriously, in this day and age you are defending this?

Day and age has nothing to do with nationalism.

They shouted Pakistan Zindabad,which is the main issue.Other students were asked to name the students who did this.They didnt and hence are complicit to this act.As i said i dont support sedition charges againist them.