Indians targeted by racist messaging in Australia are asking - Why them?

[HalBass9]

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I thought you were little mature than @uppercut, but you turned out to be at the same level as him.

So you're defending your extremist racism by highlighting other extremist groups?

 

[LordJames]

Oh my bad...sorry missed your question. Dont think I need chatGPT to answer that.

I feel anyone that is racist or xenophobic towards me should be given back the response in same tone. I am no Gandhi remember?

Dear @Rajdeep

So if someone brings up Human Right Abuses towards minorities in India by Hindutva and Sanghees, they are individually targeted you?​

Are you representative of that group?

You can clear that easily by stating something like "I believe in the right for everyone to believe and worship as they see fit".

What is your stance with regards to minorities and their right to live and worship as they please?


See below:

True.

There is no honor in expressing racism or hatred and then covering it up with bravado. Hitler was still a xenophobic racist, no matter how loudly or proudly he spoke.

True bravery is standing up for the marginalized, the oppressed, and the weaker members of society—not feeling proud about spreading hate against others.

I try to oppose all forms of abuse and oppression, and I believe everyone has the right to hold their own beliefs and worship freely, as long as it harms no one. That is what my faith teaches me and of course I am human so I make mistakes!

I strongly dislike the actions of Hindutva and Sanghis in their treatment of minorities, but I have no issue with Hindus practicing their faith—and I will defend their right to do so.

If I saw a white person abusing a Hindu on the street, I would stand up for the Hindu without hesitation.

So, to me, your idea of “bravery” seems very misguided.​

On this topic:

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What is your stance on Nathuram Godse?

Do you believe in Nathuram Gose being a Terrorist according to legal definition of the constitution of India when he brazenly committed an act of Terrorism by murdering Mahatma Gandhi?

Simple answer needed.

 

[Rajdeep]

I thought you were little mature than @uppercut, but you turned out to be at the same level as him.

So you're defending your extremist racism by highlighting other extremist groups?

I also thought you had better comprehension skills than a few others here, but you’re acting very silly. You’re not reading the posts or the context in which things are being said, and you jump in only when Islamists are called out.

The poster in question clearly said BJP, RSS, and Modi are terrorists.

I mean, if you accuse someone, you need to provide proof, right?

Who exactly has categorized them as terrorists? Pakistani Muslims? LMAO.

All I did was hold up the mirror and point out which organizations are actually listed as terrorist groups by the UN. If they happen to share similar names and belong to one community, that’s not my problem.

Both @uppercut and I are simply speaking the truth, which you guys are unable to digest.

 

[HalBass9]

I also thought you had better comprehension skills than a few others here, but you’re acting very silly. You’re not reading the posts or the context in which things are being said, and you jump in only when Islamists are called out.

The poster in question clearly said BJP, RSS, and Modi are terrorists.

I mean, if you accuse someone, you need to provide proof, right?

Who exactly has categorized them as terrorists? Pakistani Muslims? LMAO.

All I did was hold up the mirror and point out which organizations are actually listed as terrorist groups by the UN. If they happen to share similar names and belong to one community, that’s not my problem.

Both @uppercut and I are simply speaking the truth, which you guys are unable to digest.

They are, once Syria President was labelled as such but now he isn't.

Uppercut wants to slaughter Muslims of India over a cow.

 

[Rajdeep]

Dear @Rajdeep

So if someone brings up Human Right Abuses towards minorities in India by Hindutva and Sanghees, they are individually targeted you?​

Are you representative of that group?

You can clear that easily by stating something like "I believe in the right for everyone to believe and worship as they see fit".

What is your stance with regards to minorities and their right to live and worship as they please?


See below:




On this topic:



What is your stance on Nathuram Godse?

Do you believe in Nathuram Gose being a Terrorist according to legal definition of the constitution of India when he brazenly committed an act of Terrorism by murdering Mahatma Gandhi?

Simple answer needed.

Okay but for one Nathuram Godse...you do realize how many photos of your bhai bandhus I can post?

 

[Rajdeep]

They are, once Syria President was labelled as such but now he isn't.

Uppercut wants to slaughter Muslims of India to defend over a cow.

So now BJP and Modi are terrorists?

Who has called them that? Pakistanis? Where Bin Laden was hiding? Sure

 

[LordJames]

Okay but for one Nathuram Godse...you do realize how many photos of your bhai bandhus I can post?

Dear @Rajdeep

Please state clearly that you consider Nathuram Godse as Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism as evident by his manifesto.

If you have not read his manifesto, I will be happy to discuss it with you in depth and provide specific passages.

Please provide a simple and straightforward statement.

Thanks for your time.
​

 

[HalBass9]

So now BJP and Modi are terrorists?

Who has called them that? Pakistanis? Where Bin Laden was hiding? Sure

He was in Pakistan.

 

[LordJames]

He was in Pakistan.

There is zero evidence of Bin Ladin being killed in Pakistan, none.

We have statements from US Government, the same Government which has lied repeatedly and two which this generation is very familiar with due to movies:

1. Lied about Vietnam (tons of evidence)
2. WMD in Iraq (tons of evidence)

Pakistan Army is corrupt to the core and I am their biggest critic but there is zero evidence of Bin Ladin being killed in Pakistan, none.

 

[Rajdeep]

Dear @Rajdeep

Please state clearly that you consider Nathuram Godse as Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism as evident by his manifesto.

If you have not read his manifesto, I will be happy to discuss it with you in depth and provide specific passages.

Please provide a simple and straightforward statement.

Thanks for your time.
​

My Dearest @LordJames

Nathuram Godse was no longer an RSS member when he assassinated Gandhi. The Indian Government and courts dealt with his case as a criminal offence, not as terrorism. It did not involve mass violence or indiscriminate targeting of civilians, which are usually the hallmarks of terrorism. In that context, Gandhi’s killing cannot be classified as terrorism. Yes, Godse was ideologically motivated, but that alone is not enough to label it terrorism.

By the way, why bring up Godse here? What’s the relevance to this thread?

Do you consider Osama Bin Laden a terrorist?

Please give a simple and straightforward statement.

Yours truly,
Raju.

 

[Rajdeep]

There is zero evidence of Bin Ladin being killed in Pakistan, none.

We have statements from US Government, the same Government which has lied repeatedly and two which this generation is very familiar with due to movies:

1. Lied about Vietnam (tons of evidence)
2. WMD in Iraq (tons of evidence)

Pakistan Army is corrupt to the core and I am their biggest critic but there is zero evidence of Bin Ladin being killed in Pakistan, none.

Yes everyone lied...Osama Bin Laden was a very peacefool guy

 

[HalBass9]

There is zero evidence of Bin Ladin being killed in Pakistan, none.

We have statements from US Government, the same Government which has lied repeatedly and two which this generation is very familiar with due to movies:

1. Lied about Vietnam (tons of evidence)
2. WMD in Iraq (tons of evidence)

Pakistan Army is corrupt to the core and I am their biggest critic but there is zero evidence of Bin Ladin being killed in Pakistan, none.

That’s not the point. The Pakistani government can choose to support or not support whoever they want, but on a personal level, I have no obligation to endorse the government’s support for any extremist group.

Bringing up OBL being found in Pakistan is nothing more than an immature attempt at deflection. It’s their way of justifying their support for Indian leaders who are documented extremist bigots, as if pointing fingers somehow cancels out that reality.

It’s a clear tell when they resort to that line, they’re indirectly admitting that their leaders are extremist, racist bigots, but they’re fine with it.

In short, pure whataboutery.

 

[sweep_shot]

In short, pure whataboutery.

Sanghis are #1 in 3 things:

1) Call center scamming.
2) Whataboutery.
3) Sexual violence.

 

[LordJames]

My Dearest @LordJames

Nathuram Godse was no longer an RSS member when he assassinated Gandhi. The Indian Government and courts dealt with his case as a criminal offence, not as terrorism. It did not involve mass violence or indiscriminate targeting of civilians, which are usually the hallmarks of terrorism. In that context, Gandhi’s killing cannot be classified as terrorism. Yes, Godse was ideologically motivated, but that alone is not enough to label it terrorism.

By the way, why bring up Godse here? What’s the relevance to this thread?

Do you consider Osama Bin Laden a terrorist?

Please give a simple and straightforward statement.

Yours truly,
Raju.

Dear @Rajdeep

I have not mentioned BJP, RSS or anything.

Please state clearly that you consider Nathuram Godse as Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism as evident by his manifesto.

I asked the question, first and very clearly.

Yes everyone lied...Osama Bin Laden was a very peacefool guy

Not at all!

Osama Bin Ladin was not a peaceful guy at all. That is not the point being discussed here and the words are crystal clear:

There is zero evidence of Bin Ladin being killed in Pakistan, none.

We have statements from US Government, the same Government which has lied repeatedly and two which this generation is very familiar with due to movies:

1. Lied about Vietnam (tons of evidence)
2. WMD in Iraq (tons of evidence)

Pakistan Army is corrupt to the core and I am their biggest critic but there is zero evidence of Bin Ladin being killed in Pakistan, none.

@HalBass9 @mominsaigol @sweep_shot

Notice how @Rajdeep and @uppercut both skip discussion, derail points, deflect, lie and deceive all the time.

@uppercut 15+ times cannot bring himself to admit that Arabic can be read without vowels and regularly done so he deflected for day with lies, deception and dishonesty, still to this day doesn't have the guts to say:

I made a mistake, the point was incorrect.

Sanghis are #1 in 3 things:

1) Call center scamming.
2) Whataboutery.
3) Rape.

Exactly!

An honest person would simply say "I am not an expert in Arabic (or whatever language) and it was a mistake", no harm done and make a different argument.

A Sanghi will lie, use deceit, deflect and avoid.

My words are crystal clear to @Rajdeep and he is yet to make a clear statement on this:

Dear @Rajdeep

Please state clearly that you consider Nathuram Godse as Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism as evident by his manifesto.

If you have not read his manifesto, I will be happy to discuss it with you in depth and provide specific passages.

Please provide a simple and straightforward statement.

Thanks for your time.
​

With Hindutva and Sanghees, the dishonesty and deception is the issue.

Thanks

 

[Rajdeep]

Sanghis are #1 in 3 things:

1) Call center scamming.
2) Whataboutery.
3) Sexual violence.

Now if I respond back in the same tone about the list of things Islamists are good at, you guys will get angry and call me racist. And trust me it will not stop at 3.

So who is starting all these silly arguments eh?

Defo not me

 

[sweep_shot]

Dear @Rajdeep

Please state clearly that you consider Nathuram Godse as Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism as evident by his manifesto.

If you have not read his manifesto, I will be happy to discuss it with you in depth and provide specific passages.

Please provide a simple and straightforward statement.

Thanks for your time.
​

Nathuram Godse was 5000% a Hindu nationalist terrorist. Also known as "sanghi/RSS scumbag".

World is a better place that Nathuram is not alive (he was executed). May he burn in hellfire.

Rajdeep should get some education here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse.

 

[Rajdeep]

Dear @Rajdeep

I have not mentioned BJP, RSS or anything.

Please state clearly that you consider Nathuram Godse as Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism as evident by his manifesto.

I asked the question, first and very clearly.



Not at all!

Osama Bin Ladin was not a peaceful guy at all. That is not the point being discussed here and the words are crystal clear:



@HalBass9 @mominsaigol @sweep_shot

Notice how @Rajdeep and @uppercut both skip discussion, derail points, deflect, lie and deceive all the time.

@uppercut 15+ times cannot bring himself to admit that Arabic can be read without vowels and regularly done so he deflected for day with lies, deception and dishonesty, still to this day doesn't have the guts to say:

I made a mistake, the point was incorrect.


Exactly!

An honest person would simply say "I am not an expert in Arabic (or whatever language) and it was a mistake", no harm done and make a different argument.

A Sanghi will lie, use deceit, deflect and avoid.

My words are crystal clear to @Rajdeep and he is yet to make a clear statement on this:



With Hindutva and Sanghees, the dishonesty and deception is the issue.

Thanks

I am still not following what you are trying to ask here?

I clearly responded to your question on post #331

 

[LordJames]

I am still not following what you are trying to ask here?

I clearly responded to your question on post #331

Dear @Rajdeep

Nathuram Godse was a Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism

Say, I agree or I disagree and make a simple response.

Thanks

 

[sweep_shot]

@HalBass9 @mominsaigol @sweep_shot

Notice how @Rajdeep and @uppercut both skip discussion, derail points, deflect, lie and deceive all the time.

@uppercut 15+ times cannot bring himself to admit that Arabic can be read without vowels and regularly done so he deflected for day with lies, deception and dishonesty, still to this day doesn't have the guts to say:

I made a mistake, the point was incorrect.

Most Indian posters are like that. They don't accept their faults and do not apologize when they get it wrong.

They resort to whataboutery and namecalling.

They are like 2-year old kids.

This is why I don't generally engage with them as they are incredibly dishonest and don't believe in accountability.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

If I also start posting videos like this for your community, following things will happen:

1. Mods will delete those
2. Brother @HalBass9 will blame it on racist Hindutvas
3. Brother @DeadlyVenom will say that purpose of this thread is distracted.

So I will refrain myself today respecting the sentiment of above legendary posters.

Thanks for the understanding bro

 

[mominsaigol]

Now if I respond back in the same tone about the list of things Islamists are good at, you guys will get angry and call me racist. And trust me it will not stop at 3.

So who is starting all these silly arguments eh?

Defo not me

As a religion Islam is good. It's meant to be a peaceful religion. Islam even states to respect all religions but not Hinduism.

You can't respect every single religion lol, satanism is considered a religion .

The 3 most unforgivable sins in Islam are

1) Murder( Assuming no self defense or actual cause like mercy killing, just plain cruel murder of humans)

2) Suicide (Same principal, God gave you life, it is not your right to take it away including your own, unless in extreme cases like saving someone else dueing a war etc etc)

3) Believing in multiple gods( Whether you believe in god or not is another matter, but the concept of god is a singular omnipotent deity, you cant have multiple omnipotent all powerful dieties end of story, believing in them leads to a domino effect where anyone cam be worshipped at any time)

The reason why Christianity, Buddishm etc etc are respected is cause despite Islam believing the documents were rewritten, the teachings aren't false per say.

Christianity advocates for prayer, but obviously church is a different concept from mosque however Islam is open to different forms of worship.

Similarly the prophet doesn't believe Buddha to be a prophet or reincarnation to be real but he did state that if you wish to follow peace, their is nothing wrong with following buddha's 9 teachings or Moses's 10 commandments.

Hinduism on the other hand are all fake stories which are non sensical and many indians are atheist to begin with. It is against our religion to support Hinduism. Those that do are basically dooming themslebes to hell

 

[sweep_shot]

As a religion Islam is good. It's meant to be a peaceful religion. Islam even states to respect all religions but not Hinduism.

You can't respect every single religion lol, satanism is considered a religion .

The 3 most unforgivable sins in Islam are

1) Murder( Assuming no self defense or actual cause like mercy killing, just plain cruel murder of humans)

2) Suicide (Same principal, God gave you life, it is not your right to take it away including your own, unless in extreme cases like saving someone else dueing a war etc etc)

3) Believing in multiple gods( Whether you believe in god or not is another matter, but the concept of god is a singular omnipotent deity, you cant have multiple omnipotent all powerful dieties end of story, believing in them leads to a domino effect where anyone cam be worshipped at any time)

The reason why Christianity, Buddishm etc etc are respected is cause despite Islam believing the documents were rewritten, the teachings aren't false per say.

Christianity advocates for prayer, but obviously church is a different concept from mosque however Islam is open to different forms of worship.

Similarly the prophet doesn't believe Buddha to be a prophet or reincarnation to be real but he did state that if you wish to follow peace, their is nothing wrong with following buddha's 9 teachings or Moses's 10 commandments.

Hinduism on the other hand are all fake stories which are non sensical and many indians are atheist to begin with. It is against our religion to support Hinduism. Those that do are basically dooming themslebes to hell

Islam attracts the most amount of converts and is the fastest growing religion. It is because Islam is the truth. People are attracted to truth.

Many Hindus, Christians, Budhhists etc. voluntarily convert to Islam on a regular basis.

Sanghis should study Islam and embrace it before it is too late (i.e., death happens).

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Dear @Rajdeep

Nathuram Godse was a Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism

Say, I agree or I disagree and make a simple response.

Thanks

@Rajdeep I am also interested. Go ahead and answer man

 

[mominsaigol]

Islam attracts the most amount of converts and is the fastest growing religion. It is because Islam is the truth. People are attracted to truth.

Many Hindus, Christians, Budhhists etc. voluntarily convert to Islam on a regular basis.

Sanghis should study Islam and embrace it before it is too late (i.e., death happens).

Even the ones that dont convert, their isn't anything wrong with them per say.

The issue with Christianity is that humans rewrote the book. Islam was created to fix that problem. Had humans not messed up then Quran would not exist, since bible was the OG Quran before humans completly messed everything up and loat scriptures and had to fill it up with their own hypothesis.

Similarly Buddha was respected by the prophet and mentioned in one hadith where prophet did say that if you want peace you should follow the teachings of the Buddha.

Its juat we as Muslims cannot worship Buddha. Nor is buddha a holy figure or a god in islam.

But his teachings aren't wrong.

Karma does exist in islam but after death. Similarly buddha's concept of suffering and humanity's actions are the same as what the prophet preached.

While Islam is considered the truth by Muslims, their is no consequence for respecting buddhism or Christianity.

Their is an issue in respecting Hinduism as it goes against the concept of not believing in multiple gods which is considered an unforgivable sin.

 

[JaDed]

Can't even follow the topic anymore, no wonder all the Aussies and Brits left after seeing India-Pak posts lol.

 

[Rajdeep]

@Rajdeep I am also interested. Go ahead and answer man

Wait I am outside enjoying dinner.

Once I return home, sabka jawab milega

 

[sweep_shot]

Can't even follow the topic anymore, no wonder all the Aussies and Brits left after seeing India-Pak posts lol.

It is not just that. Many prominent desi posters also stopped posting --> AZ, Oxy, MMHS, Sledger, Poison, Saqs etc.

Demographics have changed here. More Gen Z and Millennials now than before.

Most Aussie and Brit posters were boomers I believe.

It is a new era of PP you can say.

 

[Technics 1210]

Rise above the cult and stop responding to them. There are better things to do in life than to feed the limbo cult trolls.

 

[LordJames]

Just checked - a fellow patriot like me Charlie Kirk has been shot dead in Utah. In lieu of this, I refuse to participate in these charged up threads any further for my own safety. Brother @Bokya is anyway searching for my address in Bradford.

Dear @Rajdeep

Whenever you return, let us know your response.

Nathuram Godse was a Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism

Say, I agree or I disagree and make a simple response.

Thanks

 

[Rajdeep]

Dear @Rajdeep

Whenever you return, let us know your response.

Nathuram Godse was a Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism

Say, I agree or I disagree and make a simple response.

Thanks

This is not the correct thread to discuss Nathuram Godse

 

[Suleiman]

Wait I am outside enjoying dinner.

Once I return home, sabka jawab milega

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What dedication man to check Pakpassion… even during dinner outside.

Phone rakhde yaar khana enjoy kar.

 

[Rajdeep]

Similarly Buddha was respected by the prophet and mentioned in one hadith where prophet did say that if you want peace you should follow the teachings of the Buddha.

Sorry, last post from me as I couldn’t resist since you brought up Buddha.

What is your opinion on the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddha statues in Afghanistan? Would you not call that intolerance from within the Muslim community?

On one hand, there are constant demands for building mosques in the Western world and in countries where Muslims are a minority, yet on the other hand, they couldn’t tolerate two ancient Buddha statues built in the 6th century? Isn’t that double standards?

@LordJames can respond as well.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Guys please stick to the topic, either answer the relevant stuff or leave

 

[Boyka]

@Rajdeep getting piled on. I’m sorry bro

 

[LordJames]

Dear @Rajdeep

I asked a simple question multiple times, which is:

Nathuram Godse was a Terrorist who was motivated by his religion Hinduism

Your reply:

This is not the correct thread to discuss Nathuram Godse

The subject of this thread is as follows:

Indians targeted by racist messaging in Australia are asking - Why them?​

Sorry, last post from me as I couldn’t resist since you brought up Buddha.

What is your opinion on the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddha statues in Afghanistan? Would you not call that intolerance from within the Muslim community?

On one hand, there are constant demands for building mosques in the Western world and in countries where Muslims are a minority, yet on the other hand, they couldn’t tolerate two ancient Buddha statues built in the 6th century? Isn’t that double standards?

@LordJames can respond as well.

Therefore, I do not believe that this is the correct thread to discuss this matter.

I have engaged you respectfully and with courtesy so my stance is incorrect based on your reply, please engage and tell me why.

Thanks

 

[Boyka]

Those who spread hateful rhetoric invite violence and retaliation see Charlie Kirk.

I would never advocate for such scenes or condone anything like that but there are always consequences to your actions and manners. It’s not safe to be in the business of others and antagonise. Let’s be clear, right wing ideology incites and only fans the flames of fires and differences that exist in our societies. A theme that is prevalent in this thread and one that seems to be flying over your head @Rajdeep.

 

[LordJames]

Those who spread hateful rhetoric invite violence and retaliation see Charlie Kirk.

I would never advocate for such scenes or condone anything like that but there are always consequences to your actions and manners. It’s not safe to be in the business of others and antagonise. Let’s be clear, right wing ideology incites and only fans the flames of fires and differences that exist in our societies. A theme that is prevalent in this thread and one that seems to be flying over your head @Rajdeep.

Dear @Boyka,

A person’s belief system doesn’t determine their integrity—but hate, lying, and deception do leave deep scars on one’s psyche and mental health. Deep down, everyone knows when they are being dishonest, even if they hide behind emojis or online personas. Human nature has an innate awareness of truth and falsehood, and dishonesty ultimately robs a person of peace.

It makes no difference whether someone is Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Israeli, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Hindu, or Atheist; dishonesty brings unrest to anyone’s heart.

So, in response to @Technics 1210 about why one might still engage with those known to be dishonest, the answer lies in a higher principle:

[3:110] “You are the best community ever raised for humanity, you encourage good, forbid evil, and believe in Allah.”

Lastly, it is no secret that some members here defend their nations at all costs—even if it means twisting the truth. There is little difference in principle between a Pakistani nationalist and an Indian nationalist when the ultimate aim is blind defense of “soil.”

We, however, are Muslims and we need to prove and rise above petty affiliation to "soil", although love of homeland is natural but it does not, should not and cannot rise above ideology, otherwise we will simply become "Pakistani or Muslim Sanghi".

Thanks

Apostates, Hindutva, Sanghi Modus-Operandi
​

Here are two links where "Ex-Muslims" who are Muftees and Hafiz join on a weekly basis

• In English, Islamic Lantern is a good channel
• If you’re fluent in Urdu, scholars like Qasier Ahmed Raja and Mufti Yasir have discussions into these issues.

Half the time, these "Muftees" and "Scholars" think that Maghrib is 4 Rakaat and whenever anyone wants to have a laugh in Urdu/English, feel free to listen to "Ex-Muslims"...

You will also hear from "Hindtuva" who are embarrassed to describe their religious preferences and hide behind "Atheism" or "Nothing" or "still researching" and then it goes downhill from there

Its good Saturday night entertainment

​

 

[uppercut]

They are, once Syria President was labelled as such but now he isn't.

Uppercut wants to slaughter Muslims of India over a cow.

I thought you were little mature than @uppercut, but you turned out to be at the same level as him.

So you're defending your extremist racism by highlighting other extremist groups?

YOU of all people lecturing about maturity ? Bloody hell you don't even have the requisite morals to acknowledge that harming cows in India is not an option. Forget acknowledging .... you actually doggedly fight for the "Rights" of your fellow Madrassa chaap harami's to indulge in such despicable acts and see no issues with making highly derogatory comments on the topic. And then here you are trying to claim moral highground and that you have "maturity". No shame much I suppose ?


​

 

[Boyka]

Dear @Boyka,

A person’s belief system doesn’t determine their integrity—but hate, lying, and deception do leave deep scars on one’s psyche and mental health. Deep down, everyone knows when they are being dishonest, even if they hide behind emojis or online personas. Human nature has an innate awareness of truth and falsehood, and dishonesty ultimately robs a person of peace.

It makes no difference whether someone is Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Israeli, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Hindu, or Atheist; dishonesty brings unrest to anyone’s heart.

So, in response to @Technics 1210 about why one might still engage with those known to be dishonest, the answer lies in a higher principle:

[3:110] “You are the best community ever raised for humanity, you encourage good, forbid evil, and believe in Allah.”

Lastly, it is no secret that some members here defend their nations at all costs—even if it means twisting the truth. There is little difference in principle between a Pakistani nationalist and an Indian nationalist when the ultimate aim is blind defense of “soil.”

We, however, are Muslims and we need to prove and rise above petty affiliation to "soil", although love of homeland is natural but it does not, should not and cannot rise above ideology, otherwise we will simply become "Pakistani or Muslim Sanghi".

Thanks

Apostates, Hindutva, Sanghi Modus-Operandi



​

Exactly right, some guys go out of their way to speak of people’s religion and way of life. On top of that try to spread disinformation thinking they can get away with it.

Essentially we cannot normalise this rhetoric and behaviour. They are becoming bolder with their speech thinking the window has shifted so Muslims are an easy target. It’s why they form unholy alliances selling themselves to feel better about their own existence.

 

[uppercut]

@uppercut 15+ times cannot bring himself to admit that Arabic can be read without vowels and regularly done so he deflected for day with lies, deception and dishonesty, still to this day doesn't have the guts to say:

You and guts ? Here is my post # 285 on that very thread where I told you that I will respond and answer every single question you have. But go ahead explain why you started ranting raving and hurling insults like a silly gurl.

Heck I friggin dare you to re-start that thread. Let me know if you got the requisite discipline to engage in a serious mature debate without EVER getting bent of shape and hurling insults at those who you do not agree with.

 

[Rajdeep]

Exactly right, some guys go out of their way to speak of people’s religion and way of life. On top of that try to spread disinformation thinking they can get away with it.

Essentially we cannot normalise this rhetoric and behaviour. They are becoming bolder with their speech thinking the window has shifted so Muslims are an easy target. It’s why they form unholy alliances selling themselves to feel better about their own existence.

You are acting all moral and others speaking about way of life. However, you have initiated it today with posts like below (post#245):

Have you seen the street hygiene videos? I was never a believer until i started to see how Indians lived on a daily basis, I realised and became a convert when previously I thought it was unfair. I was horrified at what I saw. We can’t take you guys seriously when you are lecturing us on here, because a large number of your countrymen in India are walking in front of trains trying to take Bollywood style videos and getting steamrolled. This adds to the impression of some aspects of Indian culture being incompatible with the west.

If you can be racist towards others....you will get response in the same tone. You cant get away with it.

Had I started it without provocation, you could have accused me of going out of my way.

 

[Rajdeep]

@Boyka apologise to me for generalizing every Indian with racist brush and I shall do the same for hurting your feelings. Then we can give jhappi and move on with our lives.

Deal?

 

[Boyka]

You are acting all moral and others speaking about way of life. However, you have initiated it today with posts like below (post#245):



If you can be racist towards others....you will get response in the same tone. You cant get away with it.

Had I started it without provocation, you could have accused me of going out of my way.

Not racist, and you’ve been on here longer than me annoying people. You’re on a Pakistani forum where the majority are Muslims spouting your right wing nonsense.

Not moral either, I’m saying you should watch what you say it might catch up to you. Isn’t karma Hinduism?

 

[uppercut]

Both @uppercut and I are simply speaking the truth, which you guys are unable to digest.

And then they get completely bent out of shape beyond recognition and start abusing us and then further dig themselves into a bigger hole thereby further validating our points lol. Mucho fun though to toy with the various "deep green" specimen here who just simply cannot handle simple bare facts.

 

[HalBass9]

YOU of all people lecturing about maturity ? Bloody hell you don't even have the requisite morals to acknowledge that harming cows in India is not an option. Forget acknowledging .... you actually doggedly fight for the "Rights" of your fellow Madrassa chaap harami's to indulge in such despicable acts and see no issues with making highly derogatory comments on the topic. And then here you are trying to claim moral highground and that you have "maturity". No shame much I suppose ?


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It is, go to south India. Make sure it is one way ticket since cows are halal in USA.

Are you going to slaughter them Indians since they aren't Muslim.

Adious Hibdutva bigot.

 

[uppercut]

It is, go to south India. Make sure it is one way ticket since cows are halal in USA.

Are you going to slaughter them Indians since they aren't Muslim.

Adious Hibdutva bigot.

This has been explained numerous times by me but here it is again: what happens in communist Kerala does not imply that cows are not holy. There is a reason why Cow protection is written into the Indian constitution itself ( and it wasnt done by any Hindutva govt either ). Yes the implementation is very poor which is why the Vigilante's take the law into their hands.

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[HalBass9]

This has been explained numerous times by me but here it is again: what happens in communist Kerala does not imply that cows are not holy. There is a reason why Cow protection is written into the Indian constitution itself ( and it wasnt done by any Hindutva govt either ). Yes the implementation is very poor which is why the Vigilante's take the law into their hands.

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Lol

 

[uppercut]

Lol

Exhibit-N on YOUR "Maturity" levels

 

[HalBass9]

Exhibit-N on YOUR "Maturity" levels

Oh you wanted a debate that you should be allowed to slaughter human.

Live in your bigoted echo chamber, you'll hear @Rajdeep clapping for you.

 

[uppercut]

Oh you wanted a debate that you should be allowed to slaughter human Animals

Remember the debate is about your support for rogue animals doing rogue things and demanding "Rights" to indulge in such despicable acts. Now be a doll and tell us why these animals deserve better. Go ahead lets see what you got

 

[HalBass9]

Remember the debate is about your support for rogue animals doing rogue things and demanding "Rights" to indulge in such despicable acts. Now be a doll and tell us why these animals deserve better. Go ahead lets see what you got

@Rajdeep come clap for him.

 

[uppercut]

@Rajdeep come clap for him.

what happened to your big talk about maturity ? Mullah ki daud masjid tak ehh ?

 

[LordJames]

This has been explained numerous times by me but here it is again: what happens in communist Kerala does not imply that cows are not holy. There is a reason why Cow protection is written into the Indian constitution itself ( and it wasnt done by any Hindutva govt either ). Yes the implementation is very poor which is why the Vigilante's take the law into their hands.

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Dear @uppercut & @Rajdeep

Keep on lying!

Directive Principles of the Indian Constitution​

Article 48 is included as a “Directive Principle of State Policy”, meant to guide the Indian states in policy formation and its implementation, but could not be enforced in any court.

1. All the states administered by the Government of India shall take measures for preserving and improving the breed.
2. The state administration shall make necessary arrangements to re-organize agriculture and animal husbandry on modern and scientific lines.
3. The state shall endeavour to prohibit slaughtering and smuggling of cattle, calves and other milch and draught cattle.
4. The state shall take necessary actions to control trade of cattle in livestock markets for purposes of inhuman slaughter.
5. The State shall endeavor to protect and improve the environment and to safeguard the forests and wildlife of the country.
6. The states shall prevent slaughtering of animals except in recognized and licensed slaughter houses.
7. States shall prohibit the slaughtering of pregnant animals or animals having offspring less than three months old. Further, the animal which is under the age of three months or has not been certified by a veterinarian that it is in a fit condition to be used commercially, shall not be slaughtered in a licensed house.

Lies of Dumbercut exposed again:

Cow Slaughter & Hinduism

Ref: The Myth of the Holy Cow

1. Dozens of passages about cow slaughter, beef consumption throughout history and even recent times
2. Many Hindus in South India have no issues with consuming beef to this day!

Cow Slaughter & Indian Constitution

1. By your own BS, it is clear that it wasn't part of the constitution until article 48 (amendment) in 1950 which contained a "directive" but slaughter regulation was left to states
2. Many across India continued to slaughter cows and consume beef throughout 1940's, 1950s, 1960s and 1970s
3. Skipping a lot of history and milestones for brevity.... Major milestone is 1994 State of West Bengal v. Ashutosh Lahiri ruling which upheld "limited ban"
4. 2025: States where Beef consumption is still allowed
   1. Nagaland
   2. Mizoram
   3. Kerala
   4. Nagaland

Might be others but enough to expose liar @uppercut that there is no national beef ban in India to this day! Therefore Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and others will continue to slaughter cow and consume it where it is constitutionally legal.

As I have said, where it is illegal by all means people should be prosecuted (not lynched)

Pass a national ban and people will follow the law.

Sources from Hinduism:

The Myth of Holy Cow

Read online

And lastly...

Issue not addressed!

You and guts ? Here is my post # 285 on that very thread where I told you that I will respond and answer every single question you have. But go ahead explain why you started ranting raving and hurling insults like a silly gurl.

Heck I friggin dare you to re-start that thread. Let me know if you got the requisite discipline to engage in a serious mature debate without EVER getting bent of shape and hurling insults at those who you do not agree with. The pathetic loser that you are ... you just cannot handle it. Go pound sand if you cannot handle the heat.


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@uppercut 15+ times cannot bring himself to admit that Arabic can be read without vowels and regularly done so he deflected for day with lies, deception and dishonesty, still to this day doesn't have the guts to say:

I made a mistake, the point was incorrect.

 

[HalBass9]

Dear @uppercut & @Rajdeep

Keep on lying!

Directive Principles of the Indian Constitution​

Article 48 is included as a “Directive Principle of State Policy”, meant to guide the Indian states in policy formation and its implementation, but could not be enforced in any court.

1. All the states administered by the Government of India shall take measures for preserving and improving the breed.
2. The state administration shall make necessary arrangements to re-organize agriculture and animal husbandry on modern and scientific lines.
3. The state shall endeavour to prohibit slaughtering and smuggling of cattle, calves and other milch and draught cattle.
4. The state shall take necessary actions to control trade of cattle in livestock markets for purposes of inhuman slaughter.
5. The State shall endeavor to protect and improve the environment and to safeguard the forests and wildlife of the country.
6. The states shall prevent slaughtering of animals except in recognized and licensed slaughter houses.
7. States shall prohibit the slaughtering of pregnant animals or animals having offspring less than three months old. Further, the animal which is under the age of three months or has not been certified by a veterinarian that it is in a fit condition to be used commercially, shall not be slaughtered in a licensed house.

Sources from Hinduism:



And lastly...

Issue not addressed!




@uppercut 15+ times cannot bring himself to admit that Arabic can be read without vowels and regularly done so he deflected for day with lies, deception and dishonesty, still to this day doesn't have the guts to say:

I made a mistake, the point was incorrect.

Bhai, why are you wasting your time?

 

[BouncerGuy]

GUYS, WATCH YOUR POSTS

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Just like I have explained muslims and your community are much more hated in western world than Indian. I have given you proofs after proof of last summer, this summer etc.

Your only response being - you have watched videos in social media

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I am requoting you since you pretended not to see my response the first time round. Why are Muslims more hated in the western world than Indians? Did you even stop to consider it?