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"India's B team will be very hard to beat for Pakistan": Sunil Gavaskar

Speaking on a Pakistani show, Inzamam asked Gavaskar to be careful with his words and said:

"He (Sunil Gavaskar) is an elder and senior; we respect him, but when talking about someone's country, saying such things is not right. It’s fine if your team played well; you have the right to praise your team as much as you want. But saying such things about others is very unfair."

"Tell him to check the stats even today, and see where Pakistan stands. Making such statements is very disappointing. He was a great cricketer and a respectable one too. I request them not to lower their dignity by making such remarks. If you think India is playing great cricket, praise them as much as you want, we have no issue with that. But when talking about someone's country, be cautious with your words. I am saying this in a slightly harsh tone."
Vikrant asked "Do you think India B team will beat current paksitan team"

Gavaskar said "Yes"

IN all honesty that is true. India B team beat full strength SA team in 2022 in a series that was must win for SA.
 
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India's B team with the likes of Abhishek Sharma
YBJ
Samson
Reddy
Tilak
Rinku
Dube
Akashdeep
Rahul chahar
Bishnoi
Manav Suthar

They can give this Indian team a run for its money. Even beat them.
You forgot sai sudarshan, jurel .They are good technically and clutch ones in pressure situations.
 
Vikrant asked "Do you think India B team will beat current paksitan team"

Gavaskar said "Yes"

IN all honesty that is true. India B team beat full strength SA team in 2022 in a series that was must win for SA.
Indian b team defeated sa in in sa on tough spicy pitches against the sa best eleven. We won the decider after batting first where chasing team win all the earlier matches.
 
Speaking on a Pakistani show, Inzamam asked Gavaskar to be careful with his words and said:

"He (Sunil Gavaskar) is an elder and senior; we respect him, but when talking about someone's country, saying such things is not right. It’s fine if your team played well; you have the right to praise your team as much as you want. But saying such things about others is very unfair."

"Tell him to check the stats even today, and see where Pakistan stands. Making such statements is very disappointing. He was a great cricketer and a respectable one too. I request them not to lower their dignity by making such remarks. If you think India is playing great cricket, praise them as much as you want, we have no issue with that. But when talking about someone's country, be cautious with your words. I am saying this in a slightly harsh tone."
Saying such kind of things makes no sense. Sunil is a legendary cricketer and saying these kind of things shows that he is being ignorant and arrogant.
 
I think seam bowling wise, Pak has ok resources.

Even spin side I think Pak will eventually find decent resources.

What is shocking is that in last 7-8 years other than Saim now, no other modern white ball batter has broken through. And we keep getting told that Ifthikar, Azam khan, Usman khan are the best hitters in the country.

For the country with the flattest pitches in the world and with an entire lower level cricket scene built around T20 style hitting, it is amazing that quality T20 batters are not being produced.
 
For the country with the flattest pitches in the world
Therein lies the problem.

Flat pitches allow for upskilling of horizontal tennis shots or legside hoicks, which don't work on swinging/seaming/spinning tracks. Exacerbated by shorter boundaries wherein mishits are sixes.

Then regressive genetics coupled with softer mindsets make impossible to beat healthier/fitter/well-trained warriors of other teams.
 
Saying such kind of things makes no sense. Sunil is a legendary cricketer and saying these kind of things shows that he is being ignorant and arrogant.
They should continue to say such things to be honest. Might make this current mahol go away :srt

Our cricketers are the most shameless kind I have seen ever since I have started watching cricket. Their response to getting smashed is smiling and asking opposition players for autographs.
 
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I mean Pakistanis used to say the same thing in the 90s. There team without Wasim Waqar etc was able to beat India quiet often. Every Pakistan player those days had an able replacement e.g. Moin to Latif, Aqib, Razaq, Azhar would be first choice attack for many teams those days. The tables have turned now.
 
I mean Pakistanis used to say the same thing in the 90s. There team without Wasim Waqar etc was able to beat India quiet often. Every Pakistan player those days had an able replacement e.g. Moin to Latif, Aqib, Razaq, Azhar would be first choice attack for many teams those days. The tables have turned now.
Gavaskar, in his comments, appears to be focused on the present and future, discussing the current performance of teams and players.
On the other hand, Inzamam's remarks come across as frustrated and defensive, reflecting his concern about Pakistan’s current standing in international cricket. Inzamam seems "stuck in the past," as he’s more focused on defending Pakistan’s historical achievements and its cricketing legacy rather than addressing the current state of the game. His emphasis on past glories suggests that he believes these should still shape how Pakistan is viewed today.

By Inzamam’s logic, the West Indies—who still hold more trophies than Pakistan, in both ODIs and T20s—should also be considered a strong, viable contender for future titles based on their past successes.
 
Once upon a time an indian captain said he will give tips to Pakistan batsman if he become their coach & then world saw what happened to them in final of CT
 
Cricket was an unprofessional sport before. From the 2000s onward all the first world countries have become good.

Australia was always good but Eng/NZ became good.

SA who is middle income also has remained good.

India with rising economy also became good. As Ind becomes richer will become better. Every subsequent generation is better.

Issue with Pakistan is its economy. No amount of selection changes etc etc is gonna change that.

And Pakistan economy is not going to improve in the next 10-15 years and they will be left even further behind.

This is one of the best posts on this thread yet no one seems understands this simple concept in Pakistan as is evident in this very thread, PP in general and Pakistani media not talking about this.

Pakistani cricket will always remain average and will never improve atleast for next 50 years.
 
Once upon a time an indian captain said he will give tips to Pakistan batsman if he become their coach & then world saw what happened to them in final of CT
Seems like it upset Pakistan players so much that they don't even ask tips from their own greats anymore. :moyo2
 
This is one of the best posts on this thread yet no one seems understands this simple concept in Pakistan as is evident in this very thread, PP in general and Pakistani media not talking about this.

Pakistani cricket will always remain average and will never improve atleast for next 50 years.
Because then that is acceptance of the fact that they have been left behind by India and that in a way questions the fundamental idea of Pakistan.

If you leave a company to form your own company and your own company struggles but the old company makes it big, then it makes you question why you formed your own company in the first place.
 
Once upon a time an indian captain said he will give tips to Pakistan batsman if he become their coach & then world saw what happened to them in final of CT
He was MoM in the CT final?

Cause he said it in 2019 and the next CT was in 2025.
 
Speaking on a Pakistani show, Inzamam asked Gavaskar to be careful with his words and said:

"He (Sunil Gavaskar) is an elder and senior; we respect him, but when talking about someone's country, saying such things is not right. It’s fine if your team played well; you have the right to praise your team as much as you want. But saying such things about others is very unfair."

"Tell him to check the stats even today, and see where Pakistan stands. Making such statements is very disappointing. He was a great cricketer and a respectable one too. I request them not to lower their dignity by making such remarks. If you think India is playing great cricket, praise them as much as you want, we have no issue with that. But when talking about someone's country, be cautious with your words. I am saying this in a slightly harsh tone."

Inzimam is too emotional, you don’t improve system by being emotional.
You need to accept the reality and work on improving it instead of getting butthurt by comments.

India sucked for a long part of 90s, improved their system and eventually the results followed.

Pakistan is in a worse situation due to the entire country and system being unstable and corrupt, so they might not improve ever.
 
Because then that is acceptance of the fact that they have been left behind by India and that in a way questions the fundamental idea of Pakistan.

If you leave a company to form your own company and your own company struggles but the old company makes it big, then it makes you question why you formed your own company in the first place.

There is no point giving excuses for it, the simple fact is the only way one can improve and succeed is to accept their failures and work on them.

Till Pakistanis accept the failure of their nation as a whole (army, ISI, Politicians, Mullahs, and public in general) they will never ever become achieve their full potential.

If Pakistanis are happy with their current status then so be it.

Same goes for any country and its people in the world.
 
Once upon a time an indian captain said he will give tips to Pakistan batsman if he become their coach & then world saw what happened to them in final of CT

That Indian captain won the final of CT, was MoM and his team destroyed Pakistani team so much so they didn’t get out of group stage, the final was shifted from their country and the final presentation didn’t have any Pakistani representatives on stage.
 
There is no point giving excuses for it, the simple fact is the only way one can improve and succeed is to accept their failures and work on them.

Till Pakistanis accept the failure of their nation as a whole (army, ISI, Politicians, Mullahs, and public in general) they will never ever become achieve their full potential.

If Pakistanis are happy with their current status then so be it.

Same goes for any country and its people in the world.
Only way Pakistan develops is the army steps down and it becomes a "normal" third world country, chugging along to middle income status at 5-7% like the entirety of Asia, Africa and Latin America.

Of course, that would mean accepting Indian hegemony which is anathema to the Pakistani psyche (they still believe they are the no 2 in South Asia when Bangladesh has surpassed them in every metric and even Nepal which was poorer has a better pci/HDI than them now. Pak is lowest in South Asia).

So the military will keep on trying to attain "parity" ensuring Pakistan remains stuck and the gap widens further.
 
Actually Pakistan itself is sending their B teams to tournament these days....No Sufiyan, Irfan Niazi, Sajid, Arafat Minhas, Saim etc
If saim played along with Sufiyan and niazi plus sajid

Not sure who is minhas

If those 3 played though can pak beat every team ? Would they have won in champions trophy?
 

Nonsense! Jason Gillespie slams Sunil Gavaskar's candid take on India vs Pakistan​


Former Australia fast bowler and ex-Pakistan coach Jason Gillespie has lashed out at Sunil Gavaskar's remarks on the diminishing India vs Pakistan rivalry. Speaking to India Today, Gavaskar claimed that even a second-string Indian team could give Pakistan a run for their money in one-day cricket. His comments came after India hammered Pakistan by six wickets in their Champions Trophy 2025 encounter.

Gavaskar said the India-Pakistan rivalry had lost its edge due to Pakistan's inability to compete toe-to-toe with India, highlighting the stark contrast in the two nations' ability to produce talented cricketers.

Gillespie, who was unceremoniously removed as Pakistan's head coach, rejected Gavaskar's argument, asserting that Pakistani players have the potential to succeed if provided with stability by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) and its system.

"I don't buy this rhetoric. I saw some comments from Sunil Gavaskar about the Indian B team or Indian C team beating Pakistan's top team. That's nonsense. Absolute nonsense. If Pakistan pick and stick with the right players and give them time to shine, time to learn, and develop their games, they can beat anyone. I have got no doubt about that," Gillespie said in a video shared by Pakistan journalist Saj Sadiq.

"They are high in talent. You just have to pick the right kind of talent. You have to support them and be patient with them. There's far too much impatience, in my opinion, in Pakistan cricket.

"If the PCB, as a board, wants to change and get the right results, they need to get the right people, the right selection panel, and give players time to flourish and do their job. If you are hiring a new coach, give him the opportunity to do something meaningful, give him the time. Otherwise, the results are going to be the same," he added.

India don’t even pick on merit.

Some of our B team players are actually elite and are supposed to be in the A team
 
If saim played along with Sufiyan and niazi plus sajid

Not sure who is minhas

If those 3 played though can pak beat every team ? Would they have won in champions trophy?
Those are all guys with single digit ODIs or yet to debut. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
I will go a step further. India's C and D team will be very tough for Pakistan to beat. Heck our team will be tested by their U19 team. This is the massive skill, fitness gap b/w the two countries.
 
Okay let's look at it this way. In October 2023 Indian main side was involved in Cricket World Cup in India but in parallel in September-October Asian games was happening in China. While all the other Asian sides sent their second string sides as well except for may be the associate sides this is the team India sent:

Jaiswal, Gaikwad, Rinku Singh, Tilak Verma, Washington Sundar, Shivam Dube, Arshdeep Singh, Ravi Bishnoi, Sai Kishore etc. No other side was able to send a unit with international experience and talent like India to the games. India won the medal easily. Pakistan lost to Afghanistan A side in Semi-Finals and also lost to Bangladesh A side in the bronze medal match. So yes, Indian second string side will not be easy for Pakistan's main side to play but again I am not saying that they will lose. The game will be tough and will not be an easy one for Pakistan to beat. If we have everyone fit, Indian A side will not be easy to beat for any team.
 
Okay let's look at it this way. In October 2023 Indian main side was involved in Cricket World Cup in India but in parallel in September-October Asian games was happening in China. While all the other Asian sides sent their second string sides as well except for may be the associate sides this is the team India sent:

Jaiswal, Gaikwad, Rinku Singh, Tilak Verma, Washington Sundar, Shivam Dube, Arshdeep Singh, Ravi Bishnoi, Sai Kishore etc. No other side was able to send a unit with international experience and talent like India to the games. India won the medal easily. Pakistan lost to Afghanistan A side in Semi-Finals and also lost to Bangladesh A side in the bronze medal match. So yes, Indian second string side will not be easy for Pakistan's main side to play but again I am not saying that they will lose. The game will be tough and will not be an easy one for Pakistan to beat. If we have everyone fit, Indian A side will not be easy to beat for any team.
Most of the Indian team didn't really have "international experience" tbh.

Arshdeep the only one.

A lot of them debuted in that Asian Games.
 
India love to send seasoned players against young kids and then celebrate cheap wins.
Those weren't seasoned players. The seasoned players were in the WC squad. The problem for other countries is that India do a good job in developing bench strength. They keep sending B teams to countries like Zimbabwe etc. They also play in a premier T20 tournament where they face bowlers like Rabada, Starc, Cummins, Rashid Khan, Bumrah etc. So most of the Indian young players are very experienced even at the domestic level. Also the various A tours arranged by BCCI means that they aren't worried about conditions either, seen recently with Tilak Verma scoring 2 hundreds in SA on his first tour.

So India aren't sending seasoned players, they just develop bench better than other sides. Pakistan is the worst in that and seems like even Afghanistan and Bangladesh do a better job.
 
Half of the Pakistan team looks up to tuktuk Misbah.. akhtar was right… All they want to do is Tuktuk … we need to get rid of this tuktuk theory…
 
In current times, He is pretty right... Current Pakistan team is minnow level. They will get beaten by most of the sides whether a or b
 
Those weren't seasoned players. The seasoned players were in the WC squad. The problem for other countries is that India do a good job in developing bench strength. They keep sending B teams to countries like Zimbabwe etc. They also play in a premier T20 tournament where they face bowlers like Rabada, Starc, Cummins, Rashid Khan, Bumrah etc. So most of the Indian young players are very experienced even at the domestic level. Also the various A tours arranged by BCCI means that they aren't worried about conditions either, seen recently with Tilak Verma scoring 2 hundreds in SA on his first tour.

So India aren't sending seasoned players, they just develop bench better than other sides. Pakistan is the worst in that and seems like even Afghanistan and Bangladesh do a better job.
What is scary is how good these kids are in their early 20s. The previous generation became this good only in their mid 20s before reaching their peaks in their early 30s.
 
Those weren't seasoned players. The seasoned players were in the WC squad. The problem for other countries is that India do a good job in developing bench strength. They keep sending B teams to countries like Zimbabwe etc. They also play in a premier T20 tournament where they face bowlers like Rabada, Starc, Cummins, Rashid Khan, Bumrah etc. So most of the Indian young players are very experienced even at the domestic level. Also the various A tours arranged by BCCI means that they aren't worried about conditions either, seen recently with Tilak Verma scoring 2 hundreds in SA on his first tour.

So India aren't sending seasoned players, they just develop bench better than other sides. Pakistan is the worst in that and seems like even Afghanistan and Bangladesh do a better job.
Good job? LOL one Bhumrah was out and India's attack was Parsidh Krishna and Siraj
 
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