India's failure to win an ICC Trophy since 2013 - Who's to blame?

[IMMY69]

LOL Indian TEST is actually one of the strongest, otherwise you dont reach back to back finals.

With a billion + population and billions of dollars investment you would expect them to be winning trophies. Being the number one in any format is commendable for a team like Pakistan or New Zealand but winnings ICC events should surely be the minimum target when you have so much resources.

 

[Rana]

With a billion + population and billions of dollars investment you would expect them to be winning trophies. Being the number one in any format is commendable for a team like Pakistan or New Zealand but winnings ICC events should surely be the minimum target when you have so much resources.

With a 220M+ population and decent net income, you wouldn’t expect Pakistan to be drilled 0-3 at home against England

 

[JaDed]

Coz Just like England cant win in football we can’t either in cricket.
Just being rich doesn’t mean victory will present itself.

 

[JaDed]

With a billion + population and billions of dollars investment you would expect them to be winning trophies. Being the number one in any format is commendable for a team like Pakistan or New Zealand but winnings ICC events should surely be the minimum target when you have so much resources.

That by no mean wins victory, We won in 1983-1985 without being rich if anything being poor in compared to majority other cricketing nations.

Another thing is when you billion people in our society(musical chairs), everyone wants piece of pie (politics) no one cares about winning because there is no incentive to win trophies.

 

[hitthestump]

LOL Indian TEST is actually one of the strongest, otherwise you dont reach back to back finals.

India doctor their test pitches like it's a joke as they know nothing will ever happen to them (BCCI = ICC)

Yet this is also why they constantly get found out on the big occasions when they can't shamelessly cheat anymore.

 

[IMMY69]

With a 220M+ population and decent net income, you wouldn’t expect Pakistan to be drilled 0-3 at home against England

There is a simple answer to this.
The PMLN/PPP and Military have decimated the entire system in Pakistan, from infrastructure to sporting organisations, money has either been looted or mismanaged through systemic corruption.

The examples set by these three have permeated from officials to grassroots where corruption and bribery is a way of life.

So when you break it all down, Pakistan have massively punched above what most countries would have they had the same issues to contend with.

Examples:-
Losing two of your gun bowlers to match fixing and yet reaching a semi final in a world cup.
Playing all your home games for a decade in a foreign country and, despite missing players due to corruption, still making it to the pinnacle in Test Cricket, including brown washing a very strong England team 3 nil.

I could go on but it would just be wasting my time.

 

[IMMY69]

That by no mean wins victory, We won in 1983-1985 without being rich if anything being poor in compared to majority other cricketing nations.

Another thing is when you billion people in our society(musical chairs), everyone wants piece of pie (politics) no one cares about winning because there is no incentive to win trophies.

Let me have my fun

 

[JaDed]

Let me have my fun

) I understand

 

[Rana]

There is a simple answer to this.
The PMLN/PPP and Military have decimated the entire system in Pakistan, from infrastructure to sporting organisations, money has either been looted or mismanaged through systemic corruption.

The examples set by these three have permeated from officials to grassroots where corruption and bribery is a way of life.

So when you break it all down, Pakistan have massively punched above what most countries would have they had the same issues to contend with.

Examples:-
Losing two of your gun bowlers to match fixing and yet reaching a semi final in a world cup.
Playing all your home games for a decade in a foreign country and, despite missing players due to corruption, still making it to the pinnacle in Test Cricket, including brown washing a very strong England team 3 nil.

I could go on but it would just be wasting my time.

Right, so how did we lose at Rawalpindi? We lost 20 wickets at Pindi. What does PPP/PDM loot have to do with it?

 

[Mesozoic]

India doctor their test pitches like it's a joke as they know nothing will ever happen to them (BCCI = ICC)

Yet this is also why they constantly get found out on the big occasions when they can't shamelessly cheat anymore.

If indeed BCCI=ICC and BCCI cared enough to cheat, both the WTC finals would have been hosted by Dubai or Colombo or Dhaka and we would have walked away with two ICC titles. But ofcourse your obvious selection bias won't let you accept this simple fact.

 

[Technics 1210]

That by no mean wins victory, We won in 1983-1985 without being rich if anything being poor in compared to majority other cricketing nations.

Another thing is when you billion people in our society(musical chairs), everyone wants piece of pie (politics) no one cares about winning because there is no incentive to win trophies.

Money changes everything.

In the 80s, a youngster would give an arm and a leg to play for their nation in Tests/ODIs. Today, youngsters want to become T20 superstars and with it, the riches in the shortest format of the game. This is why the IPL is detrimental to Indian Test cricket - when your youngsters are interested in money and want to avoid putting in the full 9 yards, then there's no motive for them to play in the longer format.

Once the likes of Kohli et al retire (arguably the last Test generation), Indian test cricket will decline rapidly.

 

[RexRex]

This is why the IPL is detrimental to Indian Test cricket - when your youngsters are interested in money and want to avoid putting in the full 9 yards, then there's no motive for them to play in the longer format.

Given that India has had its best decade in Test Cricket resultswise after the IPL started, this comment makes no sense.

 

[Ahmed216]

A combination of bad luck and bad selections.

And a propensity to choke

 

[JaDed]

Given that India has had its best decade in Test Cricket resultswise after the IPL started, this comment makes no sense.

Kohli is still from the generation that saw 2001 test series, it’s the new generation which won’t care and that does seem true , look at Pandya he is the best example.

He does mean after Kohli but i do think except Aus and Eng no one would really be interested in Test cricket overall.

 

[JaDed]

And a propensity to choke

To win KO games or series finals you need xfactor players, our wins in finals have come from Dhoni,Gauti,Pant(Aus series decider),Kohli(CT 2013), Amarnath-Srikanth, Kapil(1985).

 

[RexRex]

Kohli is still from the generation that saw 2001 test series, it’s the new generation which won’t care and that does seem true , look at Pandya he is the best example.

He does mean after Kohli but i do think except Aus and Eng no one would really be interested in Test cricket overall.

Yeah, maybe

It ultimately depends on what formats next-gen Indian fans want to watch, given that they constitute 80% of cricket's audience. Will the IPL retain its charm without players earning their creds in international cricket ? I doubt it but I could be wrong.

 

[JaDed]

Yeah, maybe

It ultimately depends on what formats next-gen Indian fans want to watch, given that they constitute 80% of cricket's audience. Will the IPL retain its charm without players earning their creds in international cricket ? I doubt it but I could be wrong.

From what I notice it will, I can’t sometimes name IPL players but the local people in Chennai easily can, the entire crowd is moving towards LOI-IPL.. look at Ranjhi’s audience ,luckily we still care about it but its been getting lower and lower.

https://www.outlookindia.com/sports...play-domestic-long-format-matches-news-122037

 

[hitthestump]

If indeed BCCI=ICC and BCCI cared enough to cheat, both the WTC finals would have been hosted by Dubai or Colombo or Dhaka and we would have walked away with two ICC titles. But ofcourse your obvious selection bias won't let you accept this simple fact.

None of those venues would ever sell out like England would for a test match between two neutral sides, and the balance sheet is the most important for BCCICC.

If BCCICC were concerned with winning trophies over signing cheques the trophy cupboard wouldn't be as bone dry as it is.

 

[happydavy]

If indeed BCCI=ICC and BCCI cared enough to cheat, both the WTC finals would have been hosted by Dubai or Colombo or Dhaka and we would have walked away with two ICC titles. But ofcourse your obvious selection bias won't let you accept this simple fact.

You are wrong, if you think BCCI doesn't flex it muscles to give India unfair advantage in tournaments then you don't want to face the reality. I can give you numerous examples but how about these 2 from the most recent World cups -
1. In 2021 T20 wc in Dubai, every single country played matches in Sharjah apart from Dubai and Abu Dhabi. However there was one country which played all its matches in Dubai as Sharjah pitches are known to be tricky wickets, compared to flat pitches of Dubai.
2. In 2022 T20 wc, whatever happened in the match against Bangladesh was downright embarassing. The simple rule is when it is raining, umpires wait for the rains to stop, do the inspection and then match starts usually within 15 minutes. In this match bdesh was 17 runs ahead as per DLS and rains delay was benefiting then significantly with each over getting washed out. What the umpires did was unthinkable - took the covers off while it was still drizzling a bit and decided on the resumption time while it was raining. No inspection nothing.

However, there's only 1 thing that bcci cares about more than Indian victories and that's money. So that's your answer to why wc final is being held in England and not Dhaka.

 

[daytrader]

Why Does Team India Fail At ICC Events? ChatGPT Lists Out Factors
Team India have now lost back-to-back WTC finals, having last won an ICC event back in 2013.

Team India's hopes of winning a major ICC tournament since the Champions Trophy triumph in 2013 were dashed on Sunday after the Rohit Sharma-led side lost the World Test Championship (WTC) Final to Australia. Since their last success at ICC events, which came under the leadership of MS Dhoni, India have lost four finals, and have also bowed out in the semi-finals as many times. They have now lost back-to-back WTC finals, after having lost to New Zealand in the inaugural edition in 2021. Both Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma have led the team to a final at least, but the side has faultered on the final hurdle.

ChatGPT has listed several interesting points as to why India struggle in ICC events.

Q: Why does Indian cricket team struggle in ICC events?
The performance of the Indian cricket team in ICC events can be influenced by various factors. While it is true that the Indian team has experienced both successes and struggles in ICC tournaments, it is important to note that cricket is a highly competitive sport, and many factors contribute to a team's performance. Here are some possible reasons for the Indian cricket team's struggles in ICC events:

High expectations and pressure: The Indian cricket team is often burdened with high expectations from fans and media due to the country's immense passion for cricket. This pressure to perform at a consistently high level in ICC events can affect the players' mindset and performance.

Challenging conditions:ICC events are held in different parts of the world, and the conditions can vary significantly from what Indian players are accustomed to. Adapting to unfamiliar pitches, weather conditions, and playing surfaces can pose challenges for the team.

Lack of experience:In some instances, the Indian team may have a relatively young or inexperienced squad compared to other teams participating in ICC events. This lack of experience in high-pressure situations can impact the team's performance.

Tactical decisions: The Indian team's strategies, team selection, and tactical decisions made by the coaching staff and team management can influence their performance in ICC events. Suboptimal decisions or plans can lead to unfavorable outcomes.

Form and injuries: Like any other sports team, the Indian cricket team's performance can be affected by the form of its players and injuries. Injuries to key players or a dip in form can impact the team's overall performance in ICC events.

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Strong competition: ICC events feature the world's best cricket teams, and the competition is fierce. The Indian team faces tough opponents, including teams with a strong history in the sport. The high level of competition can make it challenging for any team, including India, to consistently excel in these tournaments.

It's important to note that these factors are not unique to the Indian cricket team and can affect any team participating in international cricket. The team's performance can vary from tournament to tournament, and it is a combination of several factors that determines their success or struggles in ICC events.

NDTV

 

[Technics 1210]

There is another possible reason.

India have failed to win an ICC event since 2014, which also happens to be the year Modi was first elected as PM.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

And the struggle continues for team India to win a trophy under pressure

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Blame the selection errors.

 

[Ahmed216]

Chokers like Rohit Kohli Gill Iyer

 

[saqib.rai]

Too many opportunities given to fake superstars now

Bring in new players who are MENTALLY STRONG unlike Kohli and Sharma who always flop when it matters most

 

[saqib.rai]

Too many opportunities given to fake superstars now

Bring in new players who are MENTALLY STRONG unlike Kohli and Sharma who always flop when it matters most

2015 WC semi, 2017 CT final, 2019 WC semi to name a few

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Simply their nerves are not strong enough to handle pressure of big games.

They are also next to South Africa now in terms of choking.

 

[docteurmanish]

Simply their nerves are not strong enough to handle pressure of big games.

They are also next to South Africa now in terms of choking.

Major reason for loss from 2014 to 2022 is due to bad captaincy ,

2023 final loss is solely on bcci , pitch and dew . The team was the best and if not for dew , India would have gutted Aussie .

Prior to 2023 , all our losses can be attributed to two major issues -

Kohli as captain failed to form a team , develop a strong middle order and in general was tactically the weakest captain i have seen .

second issue was lack of all rounders . indian ipl stars have stopped developing a second skill . this hampers the captain

last but not the least - ipl

india is geared towards ipl and every player gives peak perdornamce in ipl . australia , new zealand players play in ipl so indians are no longer unknown . indian players dont play in these leagues so dont have enuf experiencs outside

on positive side , we are seeing a new era of bcci and they tried v hard to get the team right for 2023 wc. Think they will win the next t20 wc if they get the bowling right

 

[Pakhs]

Major reason for loss from 2014 to 2022 is due to bad captaincy ,

2023 final loss is solely on bcci , pitch and dew . The team was the best and if not for dew , India would have gutted Aussie .

Prior to 2023 , all our losses can be attributed to two major issues -

Kohli as captain failed to form a team , develop a strong middle order and in general was tactically the weakest captain i have seen .

second issue was lack of all rounders . indian ipl stars have stopped developing a second skill . this hampers the captain

last but not the least - ipl

india is geared towards ipl and every player gives peak perdornamce in ipl . australia , new zealand players play in ipl so indians are no longer unknown . indian players dont play in these leagues so dont have enuf experiencs outside

on positive side , we are seeing a new era of bcci and they tried v hard to get the team right for 2023 wc. Think they will win the next t20 wc if they get the bowling right

How about dew in 2011 final when India needed a very competitive 260 and lost early wickets? good that you admitted that pitch was made by the BCCI.

 

[mikeypbadana86]

Chokers like Rohit Kohli Gill Iyer

In the last 23 years, Pakistan has qualified once for knock out and you dare call India as chokers. The great Messi played two World Cup finals and almost lost the second one until the Argentine goal keeper did a miraculous save. If given a chance I would not like india to be like Pakistan where they don't qualify but I will take india reaching final and missing the bus.

2023 WC was BCCI's blunder in terms of pitch doctoring. Why the hell did they provide a dry/test match like two paced wicket? Reminds me of 1996 semis where the pitch deteorirated against SL in second innings. Here it deteriorated in first innings.

30 overs 155 odd for 4. we have KL Rahul, suryakumar, Jade to add an other 125 runs off 120 balls and you call rohit and kohli as chokers?

 

[sweep_shot]

I think they become overconfident during group stage and nervous during knockout games.

In a nutshell, they have become a full-blown South Africa.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Pitch doctoring will not work without toss doctoring. I think BCCI got cold feet as people were raising doubts about the toss, and for a change, the toss in the finals was a fair one. Making the pitch doctoring backfire.

 

[BouncerGuy]

The Indian batting line is to be blamed here. The better team won that day. The Indian team was on a roll in the first 10 overs and then the batters lost the plot completely and ended up with a nothing score.

 

[deltexas]

The Indian batting line is to be blamed here. The better team won that day. The Indian team was on a roll in the first 10 overs and then the batters lost the plot completely and ended up with a nothing score.

Yes they needed around 290.. they were in a great position at 150/3 and collapsed. Very similar to ind-pak game where pak collapsed. And klrahul tuk tuked. Jadeja and sky flopped. Plus bowling very defensive...

 

[Champ_Pal]

Indian top order consistently fails in the finals. It is almost like an inevitable thing. The lack of all rounders has been hurting India since the likes of Yuvraj, Raina etc retired or declined. Since then India only managed to find one class all rounder in Pandya and he is on crutches most of the time.

No team wins major tournaments without top class lower order and all rounders.

 

[zulfiqar]

And the struggle continues for team India to win a trophy under pressure

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This image is a head-scratcher honestly. I don't know if I missed posts by some of resident Indian fans but I'd like to hear thoughts from fans who have been invested in the Indian team.

It's not so much that India lost so many knockouts, it's that they didn't manage to win a single trophy in between despite being a very strong side during this time period. I'm sure if we looked at W-L record of India during this time frame they are a top 3 side (maybe even the top-most side). This is in contrast to NZ for example, for whom the list of losses in knockouts is comparable but the narrative often is that they over-achieved just by reaching the knockouts.

I don't watch non-international leagues (PSL, IPL) but I've heard that they produce some competitive encounters/knockouts, so it's not even that Indian players lack experience in winning in these kind of pressure situations. You could say it's bad luck, but honestly the sample size is damning.

 

[zulfiqar]

I missed saying that, if I had to guess, I'd blame the IPL (I know.. easy target). Perhaps winning in the IPL with a respective franchise gives you all the highs that you need as a professional athlete to fill your dopamine receptors which in turn affects your drive of winning these international trophies. India won T20WC 2007, ODI WC 2011, ICCT 2013(?) though, with 2 of these 3 trophies coming after the IPL. But perhaps the IPL was not "as big" then as it is now?

This seems to be a popular thing right? English media seems to blame "too much winning" for their poor performance this WC too.

 

[deltexas]

This image is a head-scratcher honestly. I don't know if I missed posts by some of resident Indian PP'ers but I'd like to hear thoughts from fans who have been invested in the Indian team.

It's not so much that India lost so many knockouts, it's that they didn't manage to win a single trophy in between despite being a very strong side during this time period. I'm sure if we looked at W-L record of India during this time frame they are a top 3 side (maybe even the top-most side). This is in contrast to NZ for example, for whom the list of losses in knockouts is comparable but the narrative often is that they over-achieved just by reaching the knockouts.

I don't watch non-international leagues (PSL, IPL) but I've heard that they produce some competitive encounters/knockouts, so it's not even that Indian players lack experience in winning in these kind of pressure situations. You could say it's bad luck, but honestly the sample size is damning.

That's the thing - it's just nerves and handling pressure. Yes if the Ind team was not strong you could understand. But they are most probably the best side with the w-l ratio in between these icc events. And the team itself is pretty strong. So ind reacing the sf should be a given for any icc event given how strong they are whereas nz reaching sf is over achieving just because they are not as strong and an inferior w-l record in between the icc events.

Ind should be winning more icc trophies- would say 1 out of every 3 icc events. Not winning anything in 20 consecutive icc events constitutes a failure imo no matter how dominating you are in league stages. Ind needs to perform under the huge ko pressure to be called a champion team..

 

[docteurmanish]

How about dew in 2011 final when India needed a very competitive 260 and lost early wickets? good that you admitted that pitch was made by the BCCI.

Mumbai pitch does not get heavy dew . Stats don’t favor either side .

Day night matches though should be banned in subcontinent.

2011 and 2023 India was the best side in both tournaments . 2023 side was better than msd side

 

[Farabi]

It goes beyond IPL, luck, and captaincy. Over such a substantial sample size, these factors become irrelevant.

Have you observed India's defeats in knockout games?

Take note of their body language.

Witness the expression on Kohli's face when Iyer was dismissed in the final. Did you sense panic?

Remember how India became defensive chasing a modest total against New Zealand in 2019?

India's pattern of losing knockout games is evident.

They lack the boldness and composure to treat these matches like any other. The desperation to win leads to a defensive stance. They hesitate to take necessary risks and dominate the opposition.

India should seek individuals with the mental clarity of Dhoni, Yuvraj, and Gambhir, who could remain composed on significant occasions.

 

[Pakhs]

Mumbai pitch does not get heavy dew . Stats don’t favor either side .

Day night matches though should be banned in subcontinent.

2011 and 2023 India was the best side in both tournaments . 2023 side was better than msd side

There was heavy due much more than 2023 WC tournament but of course this is the sort of hypocrisy that,s is common from Indian fans. That SL side was good and they put up a big score on the board and would have won if there was no dew. Most teams in 2011 will not get to 260 after losing early wickets like India did without dew.

 

[docteurmanish]

There was heavy due much more than 2023 WC tournament but of course this is the sort of hypocrisy that,s is common from Indian fans. That SL side was good and they put up a big score on the board and would have won if there was no dew. Most teams in 2011 will not get to 260 after losing early wickets like India did without dew.

I live in mumbai and have seen equal w/l ratio for d/n games

dew is formed in general in places where large difference in day and night temps . Mumbai night temp is never below 16 degree Celsius in peak winter ! Least dew is in mumbai . On other hand places like mohali u will have max dew .

Suraj Randiv was useless and Murali was never a threat to India as by now he was old and also there were fitness questions

Ball was at best v mildly wet and the early swing Malinga got almost compensated for the mild dew later on

Best example of how dew just spoiled the wc was the pak nz game . Fakhar looked like Richard’s and Gary sobers combined in one .. dew almost knocked nz out .

Luckily the tournament was a long one and best 4 teams did end up in semi finals . But the best team of the tournament lost to the best and luckiest team of the day

I for one would like the wc in south Africa Australia and England . V less external factors and champions are true champions

 

[FearlessRoar]

Blame the IPL and high salaries.

 

[Rajdeep]

Blame the IPL and high salaries.

Nothing to do with it. Also, if India doesn't win an ICC event in next 20 years...IPL is not going anywhere. This topic has been discussed to death and how this two things are not co-related.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Nothing to do with it. Also, if India doesn't win an ICC event in next 20 years...IPL is not going anywhere. This topic has been discussed to death and how this two things are not co-related.

These things are correlated. For your kind reference, AB de Villiers retired ahead of ICC World Cup 2019 for the IPL, and he said the IPL is bigger than the ICC ODI World Cup.

 

[IndoorCricket]

One area where I think we should defo improve is fielding. We are nowhere near Aussies, NZ and SA's in terms of fielding. Until we show the intensity and desperation in fielding its always 50-50 with India. But Aussies outplayed us in all departments in finals this time. Right from assessing the pitch conditions. Cummins tactical brilliance was on show.

 

[IndoorCricket]

I think the team also went into panic mode. Need to improve mental conditioning tbh. Rohit lost the plot by bowling Shami instead of Siraj. Who will be ineffective later parts of the game whereas Shami would shine. Should have hold the nerves.

 

[Pakhs]

I live in mumbai and have seen equal w/l ratio for d/n games

dew is formed in general in places where large difference in day and night temps . Mumbai night temp is never below 16 degree Celsius in peak winter ! Least dew is in mumbai . On other hand places like mohali u will have max dew .

Suraj Randiv was useless and Murali was never a threat to India as by now he was old and also there were fitness questions

Ball was at best v mildly wet and the early swing Malinga got almost compensated for the mild dew later on

Best example of how dew just spoiled the wc was the pak nz game . Fakhar looked like Richard’s and Gary sobers combined in one .. dew almost knocked nz out .

Luckily the tournament was a long one and best 4 teams did end up in semi finals . But the best team of the tournament lost to the best and luckiest team of the day

I for one would like the wc in south Africa Australia and England . V less external factors and champions are true champions

You are an example of what I am talking about when it comes to Indian fans.

 

[saqib.rai]

These things are correlated. For your kind reference, AB de Villiers retired ahead of ICC World Cup 2019 for the IPL, and he said the IPL is bigger than the ICC ODI World Cup.

Big ABD fan so have to comment.
He could have played the WC. it was just a year away when he retired.

But the thought of playing a World Cup again sank him after what happened in 2015.
There are maximum 7 whites allowed to play in the 11.
ABD and the Management wanted to play Kyle Abbott but had to play Philander in the semifinal.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

I think overconfidence often brings the Indian team down in every mega tournament where they begin by consistently performing well but by the end of it they choke.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Mentally weak cricketers, who crack under pressure.

They don’t show up on knockout days and have faced some humiliating defeats in these knockout games.

You must be from planet delusion if you think Indian cricketers are weak. Here is the think mate, each one of those tournaments is a single final event.

If one were to do a best of three finals, the better prepared and equipped team shall prevail.

A one of game, especially in the shorter format can often be a lottery draw. For instance india won the 1983 WC because on that particular day, seam bowlers who rarely scorched the 80Mph limit managed to snap up a few wickets of the best batsmen of that decade.

Conversely, a best of three final in 2003, 2007, 2011 would have resulted in the same outcome, but 2019 and 2023 would likely have had different outcomes.

Recognize the game, acknowledge the superiority of a side that has the best record in ICC events in the past ten years and be rational.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Sourav Ganguly believes Rahul Dravid's team needs a more relaxed approach to succeed in the T20 World Cup, he said in an interview with a local Indian sports platform:

"If I can say something to Rahul [Dravid] and, make no mistake, he is a champion cricketer and cricket brain, it will be to relax a little. When I see Rohit's wife in the stands, it is evident how much pressure she is under. When I see Virat's wife, I see the kind of pressure she is feeling. We in India make this mistake of pushing too much. I think back to the 2003 [World Cup] final, for example. If anything, we need to relax when we are playing the big games. Just play with freedom."

"In the 2023 World Cup, despite losing the final, I will say India was the best team. We played some fantastic cricket right through the competition. If only we could be a little relaxed for the final. That's what I want to see. That we play with freedom, but also don't put too much pressure on ourselves."

 

[U$ofA]

I think ICC tournaments have become secondary to the BCCI. International fixtures, below that. Top priority is the IPL.

The squad selected seems more of a T20I retirement party for Sharma and Kohli. Go play, let the broadcaster and ICC make some money. Don't care if you win or not.

 

[MenInG]

And here we go again - Can India do this?

 

[kach]

Here we go again, we won't, this is exactly how it has played out in the past, we will go down in the semi's this time I feel.
I actually want Afghanistan to win, they have been an amazing team, so much fight and so much spirit. It will do wonders to them.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India doesn't have afool proof unit to handle unexpected scenarios. They will need of a resource somewhere down the order they won't have it.

 

[kach]

India doesn't have afool proof unit to handle unexpected scenarios. They will need of a resource somewhere down the order they won't have it.

100%

 

[MP2011]

India doesn't have afool proof unit to handle unexpected scenarios. They will need of a resource somewhere down the order they won't have it.

And worst part is everyone knows who all are surplus to team's requirements but still nothing will be done.

 

[Usman Chadda]

India is winning this, everything is falling into place.

 

[Croma]

India is winning this, everything is falling into place.

India wont win anything as long as Kohli is in the team

 

[Croma]

• 2014 T20 World Cup: India lost to Sri Lanka in the final
• 2015 World Cup: India was defeated by Australia in the semi-final
• 2016 T20 World Cup: India lost to West Indies in the semi-final
• 2017 Champions Trophy: India lost to Pakistan in the final
• 2019 World Cup: India was defeated by New Zealand in the semi-final
• 2021 T20 World Cup: India failed to reach the semi-finals, with significant losses to Pakistan and New Zealand in the group stage
• 2021 World Test Championship: India lost to New Zealand in the final
• 2022 T20 World Cup: India was knocked out by England in the semi-final
• 2023 World Test Championship: India lost to Australia in the final

India creates a new bogey team every ICC tournament.

Which team will they lose to this time? England/South Africa/Afghanistan?

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

India is winning this, everything is falling into place.

2023 was the greatest chance for India in the history of cricket. After that nothing will be called "falling into place"

 

[Hikaru]

Test Championships atleast are down to extremely unfavorable Final's location every year. Even Indian critics would accept that the matchups have been unfair to the Asian side.

Rest is mostly finding Australia in the knockouts. It's where they excel while our players surrender under pressure.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

• 2014 T20 World Cup: India lost to Sri Lanka in the final
• 2015 World Cup: India was defeated by Australia in the semi-final
• 2016 T20 World Cup: India lost to West Indies in the semi-final
• 2017 Champions Trophy: India lost to Pakistan in the final
• 2019 World Cup: India was defeated by New Zealand in the semi-final
• 2021 T20 World Cup: India failed to reach the semi-finals, with significant losses to Pakistan and New Zealand in the group stage
• 2021 World Test Championship: India lost to New Zealand in the final
• 2022 T20 World Cup: India was knocked out by England in the semi-final
• 2023 World Test Championship: India lost to Australia in the final

India creates a new bogey team every ICC tournament.

Which team will they lose to this time? England/South Africa/Afghanistan?

Anyone but Pakistan is fine