IPL 2021- Overseas players pulling out of IPL due to Covid-19?

[OMB]

NEW DELHI: Anxiety pierced through IPL's bio-secure bubble on Monday with leading Indian off-spinner Ravichandran Ashwin and some Australian players withdrawing from the league amid the escalating crisis in India even as the insisted that the glitzy league will go on.

The 34-year-old Ashwin, competing for Delhi Capitals, decided to take a break saying that his family is currently "putting up a fight against Covid-19" and he wants to support them. He hopes to return to the side "if things go in the right direction".

However, Andrew Tye (Rajastan Royals) and the duo of and (both Royal Challengers Bangalore) withdrew as apprehension set in after a couple of weeks went by smoothly for the league being held in front of empty
stands across nine venues.

While Zampa and Richardson have not yet spoken about their "personal reasons" for leaving, Tye said he feared getting locked out of his own country owing to mounting quarantine cases from India in his hometown Perth.

"I just thought to try and get on the front foot and get home before I got locked out of the country...think I've had 11 days at home out of the bubble since August, so for me I just wanted to get home," Tye told 'SEN Radio' from Doha, the transit point before his flight to Perth.

The BCCI, on its part, insisted that the event will continue and it wouldn't come in the way of those wanting to leave.
"As of now, IPL is going ahead. Obviously, if anyone wants to leave, that's perfectly fine," a senior Board official said on conditions of anonymity.
While leg-spinner Zampa was bought for Rs 1.5 crore, RCB spent Rs 4 crore to buy pacer Richardson at the players' auction.

Richardson featured in one match for RCB, returning figures of 1 for 29 in three overs against Rajasthan Royals in Mumbai, but Zampa couldn't make it to the playing XI this season.

The 34-year-old Tye had also not got a game with the Royals so far and his contract with the franchise was worth Rs 1 crore.
India is recording over 3 lakh daily cases for the past few days and the health infrastructure is struggling to handle the rise, with shortage of oxygen and some crucial medicines adding to the crisis.

Kolkata Knight Riders mentor David Hussey acknowledged that Australians in the IPL are a "bit nervous" about getting back home in the wake of the situation here.

"Everyone is sort of a bit nervous about whether they can get back into Australia. I dare say there will be a few other Australians a bit nervous about getting back into Australia," Hussey, a former Australia international, told the 'Sydney Morning Herald'.
Cricket Australia and the Australian Cricketers' Association also issued a joint statement on Monday, saying that they are monitoring the situation.

"Cricket Australia and the Australian Cricketers' Association remain in regular contact with Australian players, coaches and commentators taking part in the Indian Premier League, which is being conducted under strict bio-security protocols," the two bodies said.

"We will continue to listen to feedback from those on the ground in India and the advice of the Australian Government. Our thoughts are with the people of India at this difficult time."Several England and New Zealand players are also competing in the event but haven't yet spoken about their concerns.

"We continue to monitor and work with the players on an individual basis. Our thoughts are with the people of India during these difficult times," a spokesperson of the England and Wales Cricket Board told PTI.

The players from New Zealand, including stars such Kane Williamson and Trent Boult, are expected to leave early in any case as they have a Test series against England starting June 2. They will have to head back in the last week of May to be available for it because of quarantine rules.

The IPL final is scheduled to be held on May 30 in Ahmedabad.
Australia, it is learnt, might arrange a chartered flight for its IPL cricketers once their engagement is over.

As many as 14 Australian players now remain in the event, including stars such as Steve Smith (DC), David Warner (SunRisers Hyderabad) and Pat Cummins (Kolkata Knight Riders), as well as coaches Ricky Ponting (DC) and Simon Katich (RCB).

Commentators Matthew Hayden, Brett Lee, Michael Slater and Lisa Sthalekar are also among the Australians involved with the league right now.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/ipl-2021-players-withdraw-as-covid-19-rages-in-india-bcci-says-league-will-go-on/articleshow/82254572.cms

 

[cricket4all]

Apparently there is reported players being tested positive but it is being kept quiet. Not sure how much truth in that?

Overall figures for covid in India are a lot higher than reported

 

[OMB]

Apparently there is reported players being tested positive but it is being kept quiet. Not sure how much truth in that?

Overall figures for covid in India are a lot higher than reported

I don't think your source is credible. Why would a professional player keep quiet if he gets infected?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Apparently there is reported players being tested positive but it is being kept quiet. Not sure how much truth in that?

Overall figures for covid in India are a lot higher than reported

Won't be surprised if that is what happening these days.

 

[OMB]

Won't be surprised if that is what happening these days.

By any chance, do you mean that the overseas players who have left IPL may have been Covid positive
or
come to know of other players who are Covid positive but keeping quiet?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

By any chance, do you mean that the overseas players who have left IPL may have been Covid positive
or
come to know of other players who are Covid positive but keeping quiet?

This one.

 

[naseem]

I have a question why Nortje not playing...??

 

[the Great Khan]

I wouldnt be surprised. The way the virus is spreading I find it hard to believe nobody from the support staff or other employees have not been infected. I heard that the PSL last year managed to keep things quiet so dont be surprised of the IPL do so this year.

 

[OMB]

I have a hard time believing this theory.
Players cannot test themselves (its not a pregnancy test kit or a RBS test kit).
So definitely the tests results will be known to people other than the players. India not china, the press is free and so are people to air their views. Difficult to hide anything in Indian media, they are so nosy.

 

[King-Misbah]

Apparently there is reported players being tested positive but it is being kept quiet. Not sure how much truth in that?

Overall figures for covid in India are a lot higher than reported

I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Concerned]

It’s absurd those wanting the IPL to be completed. The country is in turmoil and there is bigger matters at stake.

As opposed to the game, think about the foreign players. It will be increasingly difficult for them to return home with flights being banned.

 

[PakPremi]

IPL being postponed will only make matters worse for world cricket as another window will have to be found for rescheduling the remaining games.
However, Indian population health overall is more important then a sports tournament,and international players also could be severly affected due to travel issues and quarantine requirements.

 

[Concerned]

IPL will not be postponed as there are too many stakeholders.

However many players will drop out themselves, especially from Australia and NZ.

 

[IMMY69]

I'm not sure I want the English players coming back here atleast not without having to quarantine for 14 days in a hotel.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

People are dying on roads. Shame that we are not postponing it.

 

[HitWicket]

I'm not sure I want the English players coming back here atleast not without having to quarantine for 14 days in a hotel.

Everyone coming from India now has to quarantine for 10 days in a government chosen hotel (where they're tested multiple times) at their own cost. Preparation for the WTC final will be interesting because it means all of the Indian squad and any NZ players at the IPL will spend the majority of their time between the IPL and WTC final stuck in a hotel room without access to training facilities.

 

[MenInG]

Adam Zampa and Kane Richardson have joined fellow Australian Andrew Tye in ending their Indian Premier League (IPL) season early to return home.

India off-spinner Ravichandran Ashwin, 34, also said he is taking a break from the IPL to support his family.

The news comes as India struggles with a surge in coronavirus cases.

Tye, who was with Rajasthan Royals, flew to Sydney on Sunday, citing the "stress of bubble life" and concerns about borders closing in Australia.

"I just thought I should try and get on the front foot and get home before I got locked out of the country," the seamer told Australian radio station SEN.

Tye, 34, who flew home via Mumbai and Doha, added: "There's definitely concerns. A lot of guys have been in touch once they've realised I was leaving.

"Some of the guys are very interested in what route I took home and how I approached it."

The England and Wales Cricket Board is not currently aware of any England players planning to leave the IPL, with individuals set to make their own decisions, rather than the governing body.

India has been reporting more than 300,000 cases for days, setting new daily global records.

On Monday, it had the highest number of daily coronavirus cases for a fifth straight day, reporting 352,991 new infections and another 2,812 deaths in the previous 24-hour period.

Royal Challengers Bangalore said on Monday that leg-spinner Zampa, 29, and fast bowler Richardson, 30, will be unavailable for the rest of the IPL season and were returning to Australia for "personal reasons".

A statement added: "Royal Challengers Bangalore management respects their decision and offers them complete support."

Meanwhile, Kolkata Knight Riders paceman Pat Cummins has asked his fellow players to join him in contributing to help India's hospitals deal with the pandemic.

Cummins, 27, who is among a number of Australia's top players to remain in India, has pledged 50,000 Australian dollars (£28,006) to the PM Cares Fund, specifically to purchase oxygen supplies.

"India is a country I've come to love dearly over the years and the people here are some of the warmest and kindest I've ever met," the Australia vice-captain wrote on Twitter.

"To know so many are suffering so much at this time saddens me greatly.

"There has been quite a bit of discussion over here as to whether it is appropriate for the IPL to continue with Covid-19 infection rates remain high.

"I'm advised that the Indian Government is of the view that playing the IPL while the population is in lockdown provides a few hours of joy and respite each day at an otherwise difficult time for the country."

Cummins added: "At times like this it is easy to feel helpless. I've certainly felt that of late. But I hope by making this public appeal we can all channel our emotions into action that will bring light into people's lives.

"I know my donation isn't much in the grand scheme of things, but I hope it will make a difference to someone."

Australia has avoided the worst of Covid-19 by closing its borders and installing snap lockdowns - such as a three-day lockdown in Perth, announced before the weekend - when cases of community transmission occur.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/56884815

 

[Kroll]

I'm not sure I want the English players coming back here atleast not without having to quarantine for 14 days in a hotel.

Don't think it matters, think everybody needs to quarantine in the hotel? (Unless they take 10+ day detour) coming back from a red list country.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Even if I knew the bubble was completely secure, if I was a player I wouldn’t be able to play amidst all that is going on. It would just feel so wrong

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/2TPkMmdWDE">pic.twitter.com/2TPkMmdWDE</a></p>— Pat Cummins (@patcummins30) <a href="https://twitter.com/patcummins30/status/1386624033936969730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Hitman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/2TPkMmdWDE">pic.twitter.com/2TPkMmdWDE</a></p>— Pat Cummins (@patcummins30) <a href="https://twitter.com/patcummins30/status/1386624033936969730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thanks, Pat! We really appreciate it.

 

[Kroll]

Even if I knew the bubble was completely secure, if I was a player I wouldn’t be able to play amidst all that is going on. It would just feel so wrong

Until you remember a $million is still to deposited in your bank account.

 

[sharmaji]

Nice gesture from Cummins. But why donate to PM Cares Fund?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/2TPkMmdWDE">pic.twitter.com/2TPkMmdWDE</a></p>— Pat Cummins (@patcummins30) <a href="https://twitter.com/patcummins30/status/1386624033936969730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[CanadianG00se]

Until you remember a $million is still to deposited in your bank account.

Life is not always about money.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Nice gesture from Cummins. But why donate to PM Cares Fund?

Everyone's asking him the same thing under his tweet

 

[street cricketer]

Geez I've already had a huge man crush on Cummins and he is my favourite cricketer in world cricket for the way he plays the game and his brilliance with the ball. This dude can't get any more perfect can he..

Bet a lot of Indian cricketers are feeling a touch awkward. Reminds me of Kane Williamson donating his earnings after the Peshawar tragedy in Pakistan. The western cricketers are certainly a lot more human than the "corporate robots" we have.

 

[Ab Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/2TPkMmdWDE">pic.twitter.com/2TPkMmdWDE</a></p>— Pat Cummins (@patcummins30) <a href="https://twitter.com/patcummins30/status/1386624033936969730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A true legend of the game. Thanks Pat for such a kind gesture.

 

[Devadwal]

Pat you are great .

 

[MenInG]

The IPL has created the “safest” bio-hub for its participants but Delhi Capitals head coach Ricky Ponting says he is also well aware of the “grim” COVID-19 situation outside the bubble in India and often discusses it with his players.

The Australian great, while admitting that IPL can be a welcome distraction in these tough times, said that COVID-19 has dominated the conversations within his team.

“This IPL, probably more than any other, has become more about what’s happening on the outside rather than what’s happening here. We are probably the safest people in the country probably because of the bubbles we are in,” Ponting told the DC ‘YouTube’ channel.

“Continually, I am asking the boys at the breakfast as to what’s happening on the outside and if their families are safe, happy? That’s really an important thing.

“I think IPL in a situation that the country is in, cricket can bring a lot of joy to people,” he added.

However, there is no denying that state of affair is pretty gloomy at the moment as Ravichandran Ashwin has pulled out of the tournament, citing the COVID-19 “fight” his family is enduring.

“Here in DC, we are talking about being one big family and it’s important that we are thinking about extended family not just us here because it’s quite grim. Yes, it’s hard for the players to be away from their families and I can’t even imagine putting myself in the situation,” Ponting known for his straight talk said.

He, in fact, didn’t name Ashwin but spoke about the kind of mental state he was in before he left home after the match against SunRisers Hyderabad.

“Guys living in Chennai, they are actually at home now but can’t see their families. It’s incredibly difficult. The more we can share these experiences, the better off we are,” Ponting had said after the win against Mumbai Indians.

“We can keep our fingers crossed and hope people on the outside remain safe. Players can take care of their families on the outside and we can do whatever we can on the inside,” he said.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...pl-2021-covid-19-bio-bubble-comments-7290093/

 

[MenInG]

Australian pacer Nathan Coulter-Nile understands why some of his compatriots decided to leave home midway from the IPL but he feels safer being part of the Mumbai Indians’ bio-bubble as India battles a deadly second wave of COVID-19 infections.

Rajasthan Royals pacer Andrew Tye has left for Perth fearing that he may be “locked out” of his own country in the wake of a COVID-19 surge. Soon after, Royal Challengers Bangalore’s Kane Richardson and Adam Zampa also pulled out citing personal reasons.

However, Coulter-Nile was surprised when he got to know about the three of them leaving. He has a Rs 5 crore contract with MI.

“Everyone’s got their own opinions on it and different situations for them,” Coulter-Nile told cricket.com.au where more than 20,000 cases have been reported daily for the past one week.

“I was surprised to see AJ go home, and then Zamps and Richo, but when you speak to them, you definitely understand where they’re coming from.

“I spoke to Zamps a little while ago and he made a very compelling argument for going home. But for me, I feel like it’s safer for me to stay in the bubble than try and get home at the moment.”

Top Australian stars like David Warner, Glenn Maxwell, Pat Cummins and Steve Smith are part of the IPL.

Getting out of India is becoming tougher by the day with some countries, including UK and New Zealand, imposing travel bans from the country and Australia contemplating on the same.

“…I feel like something’s got to give for getting home. I’m just going to wait and see how that plays out.

“Worst comes to worst, we’ll have to quarantine in Dubai for a couple of weeks before we can fly home. But I’m sure it will get sorted,” said Coulter-Nile.

The Australian, who is being tested three times a day, said he has faith in the bio-bubble created for the IPL.

“We have a rapid response test in the morning ahead of another test later in the day, and then one at night as well. And that’s for everyone — players, staff, the people who do laundry, cleaners, everyone.

“In terms of testing, they are pretty onto it. I’m as confident (in the bubble) as you can be. All the protocols and measures are in place, I can’t think of anything more we could be doing.

“As long as everyone follows them ? that’s the hardest bit, there’s a lot of moving parts ? but if everyone does the right thing, we should be fine,” he added.

India has been reporting more than three lakhs cases for the past few days.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...pl-2021-covid-19-bio-bubble-comments-7289967/

 

[KingKhanWC]

Everyone coming from India now has to quarantine for 10 days in a government chosen hotel (where they're tested multiple times) at their own cost. Preparation for the WTC final will be interesting because it means all of the Indian squad and any NZ players at the IPL will spend the majority of their time between the IPL and WTC final stuck in a hotel room without access to training facilities.

Some claim Covid esp new variants can last in the person for much longer than 10 days. Perhaps they should be tested before they are allowed to leave?

There are also reports of this new variant may escape vaccines.

Overseas who are leaving are being sensible, there is no need to take any risk as they are wealthy people.

 

[TeymurBlake]

As someone who's looking forward to come back of PSL, this is a concern. Since Covid-19 is getting worse in India. It would be no surprise the PSL and Pakistan Cricket Board continue to re-work the date and time of the PSL 2021.

 

[IMMY69]

So an Aussie tour to South Africa was cancelled yet their players are allowed to remain in India in the midst of a catastrophic pandemic?

This is some different level hypocrisy

 

[MenInG]

To be fair to the players - they are thinking if we leave the bubble - we will get infected so probably better/safer to stay inside the bubble - AND earn money. Win/Win.

 

[MenInG]

Thread title:

IPL 2021- Overseas players pulling out of IPL due to Covid-19?

Stick to it.

 

[KingKhanWC]

So an Aussie tour to South Africa was cancelled yet their players are allowed to remain in India in the midst of a catastrophic pandemic?

This is some different level hypocrisy

More money + also pressure from the IPL, who think this is helping people.

To be fair to the players - they are thinking if we leave the bubble - we will get infected so probably better/safer to stay inside the bubble - AND earn money. Win/Win.

They will have to leave the bubble sooner or later. Predictions are the peak wont hit India until mid-end of May, this is very scary as it's weeks away. Some are suggesting up to 4 million deaths by the end of July. The players need to think carefully here, risk getting infected at the end of the IPL on return or not being able to let into the country is also a slight possibility, not to mention the fear and worry their family members are going through.

I think its sensible for them to go back. They are rich people who can always come back later or next season, why risk yourself and worry your family to help protect the IPL brand.

 

[MenInG]

More money + also pressure from the IPL, who think this is helping people.



They will have to leave the bubble sooner or later. Predictions are the peak wont hit India until mid-end of May, this is very scary as it's weeks away. Some are suggesting up to 4 million deaths by the end of July. The players need to think carefully here, risk getting infected at the end of the IPL on return or not being able to let into the country is also a slight possibility, not to mention the fear and worry their family members are going through.

I think its sensible for them to go back. They are rich people who can always come back later or next season, why risk yourself and worry your family to help protect the IPL brand.

I believe some also have families with them in India? not sure - can someone confirm if true?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I believe some also have families with them in India? not sure - can someone confirm if true?

If this is the case , it must be really worrying for them to be stuck in a hotel bubble while seeing rolling news of mass deaths.

Thoughts are with all the players and their families.

 

[Hasan123]

I believe some also have families with them in India? not sure - can someone confirm if true?

AB De Villers has his family over. Not sure who else does.

 

[Hasan123]

I saw an article saying a BCCI representative said the IPL will be completed. If the IPL is cancelled I will understand, but it seems as though the BCCI are determined to complete the IPL. Looking back in hindsight, it would have been better for the IPL to have been played in the UAE. Seeing the current situation is extremely upsetting and knowing some of these players can’t see their families makes it even more upsetting.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I saw an article saying a BCCI representative said the IPL will be completed. If the IPL is cancelled I will understand, but it seems as though the BCCI are determined to complete the IPL. Looking back in hindsight, it would have been better for the IPL to have been played in the UAE. Seeing the current situation is extremely upsetting and knowing some of these players can’t see their families makes it even more upsetting.

BCCI of course want it completed but will the rise in cases allow them? The peak is still weeks away.

You watch the IPL, do you mean you're upset watching it?

I wonder how the players can concentrate with all the news around.

The bubble seems good but we all know in 3rd world countries anything can go wrong. One positive case of any player within the bubble will see most foriegners go back imo.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

If this is the case , it must be really worrying for them to be stuck in a hotel bubble while seeing rolling news of mass deaths.

Thoughts are with all the players and their families.

I doubt they’re watching news. Prolly just detached in their own bubble

 

[Hasan123]

BCCI of course want it completed but will the rise in cases allow them? The peak is still weeks away.

You watch the IPL, do you mean you're upset watching it?

I wonder how the players can concentrate with all the news around.

The bubble seems good but we all know in 3rd world countries anything can go wrong. One positive case of any player within the bubble will see most foriegners go back imo.

I meant it's upsetting knowing the players can't see their families.

The IPL will be completed in my opinion. But the calls to postpone it are legitimate due to the current and expected cases.

 

[OMB]

IPL 2021: Australian cricketers will have to make own arrangements for return, says PM Scott Morrison

Melbourne: Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Tuesday said cricketers competing in the IPL will have to make their "own arrangements" to return home after his country banned all flights from India in the wake of a deadly second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic there.

Australia on Tuesday suspended all direct passenger flights from India with immediate effect until 15 May due to the "very significant" spike in COVID-19 cases.

"They have travelled there privately. This wasn't part of an Australian tour. They're under their own resources and they'll be using those resources too, I'm sure, to see them return to Australia in accordance with their own arrangements," Morrison was quoted as saying by The Guardian.

Three Australian players - Andrew Tye, Kane Richardson, and Adam Zampa - have withdrawn from the league amid the escalating health crisis. India are recording over three lakh daily new cases and more than 2,000 deaths per day right now.

As many as 14 Australian players still remain in the IPL, including Steve Smith (Delhi Capitals), David Warner (Sunrisers Hyderabad), and Pat Cummins (Kolkata Knight Riders) as well as coach Ricky Ponting (DC) and Simon Katich (RCB).

Commentators Matthew Hayden, Brett Lee, Michael Slater, and Lisa Sthalekar are also among the Australians involved with the league right now.

Chris Lynn, who plays for Mumbai Indians, has requested Cricket Australia to arrange a chartered flight to take the players home after the IPL is over.

The league matches will end on 23 May, followed by the qualifiers (25 and 28 May) and Eliminator (26 May) and the final (30 May), all scheduled to be held in Ahmedabad.

Cricket Australia, on their part, have adopted a wait-and-watch approach for now.

"Cricket Australia and the Australian Cricketers' Association remain in regular contact with Australian players, coaches, and commentators taking part in the Indian Premier League, which is being conducted under strict biosecurity protocols," a CA statement read on Monday.

"We will continue to listen to feedback from those on the ground in India and the advice of the Australian government. Our thoughts are with the people of India at this difficult time."

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcricket/sports-news/ipl-2021-australian-cricketers-will-have-to-make-own-arrangements-for-return-says-pm-scott-morrison-9569451.html

 

[Muhammad Kaleem]

Greed of BCCI knows no bounds.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I'm not sure I want the English players coming back here atleast not without having to quarantine for 14 days in a hotel.

I am of the opinion that all players, English or not, should stay in India until it is safe for travel...and by safe I mean for everyone, ordinary Indians included. There shouldn't be exceptions made for the English like there is still some British Raj mentality at play.

 

[HitWicket]

I am of the opinion that all players, English or not, should stay in India until it is safe for travel...and by safe I mean for everyone, ordinary Indians included. There shouldn't be exceptions made for the English like there is still some British Raj mentality at play.

In what way is allowing people to return to the country they're a citizen of but forcibly quarantining them at their own expense some 'British Raj mentality'.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

In what way is allowing people to return to the country they're a citizen of but forcibly quarantining them at their own expense some 'British Raj mentality'.

There are Pakistanis ( and Indians I am sure) who flew out of England for a jaunt and then got stuck there when lockdown restrictions tightened up following worsening conditions. If they can't come back until conditions improve, why should it be different for foreign VIP cricketers? Look at what is happening in India for goodness sake.

 

[HitWicket]

There are Pakistanis ( and Indians I am sure) who flew out of England for a jaunt and then got stuck there when lockdown restrictions tightened up following worsening conditions. If they can't come back until conditions improve, why should it be different for foreign VIP cricketers? Look at what is happening in India for goodness sake.

They can come home too assuming they live/study/work here or are British citizens. They don't have any extra restrictions on them than cricketers at the IPL too.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

They can come home too assuming they live/study/work here or are British citizens. They don't have any extra restrictions on them than cricketers at the IPL too.

The foreign players in the IPL have been assured by the BCCI that their safe return will be the responsibility of the BCCI. Will ordinary Indians get that sort of support?

https://www.business-standard.com/a...s-suspends-indian-flights-121042700693_1.html

 

[HitWicket]

The foreign players in the IPL have been assured by the BCCI that their safe return will be the responsibility of the BCCI. Will ordinary Indians get that sort of support?

https://www.business-standard.com/a...s-suspends-indian-flights-121042700693_1.html

They don't need that kind of support, if they're allowed to enter the UK they're free to do so under the exact same restrictions as those at the IPL.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

They don't need that kind of support, if they're allowed to enter the UK they're free to do so under the exact same restrictions as those at the IPL.

Why do IPL players need the support then?

 

[HitWicket]

Why do IPL players need the support then?

As the article mentions, the key issue is clearly going to be for the Australians who look like they'll be stranded in India for a while until a flight becomes available. No one should really need any support to get back to the UK.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

As the article mentions, the key issue is clearly going to be for the Australians who look like they'll be stranded in India for a while until a flight becomes available. No one should really need any support to get back to the UK.

The article literally says in the first line it's for the foreign players as a whole, there is no mention of it being specifically addressed to Australians exclusively, although it is mentioned that it is them that are most affected.

--------------------------------------------


The BCCI wrote to the foreign players telling them that their safe return home will be its responsibility once the tournament ends on May 30.

"We understand that many of you are apprehensive about how you will get back home once the tournament concludes... We want to apprise you that you have nothing to worry about," BCCI COO Hemang Amin said in a letter addressed to the players.

"The BCCI will do everything to ensure that you reach your respective destinations seamlessely. The BCCI is monitoring the situation very closely and is working with the government authorities to make arrangements to get you home once the tournament concludes.

 

[Markhor]

So an Aussie tour to South Africa was cancelled yet their players are allowed to remain in India in the midst of a catastrophic pandemic?

This is some different level hypocrisy

I'll tell you what's hypocritical. There were many here blasting the PCB (rightly) for their handling of PSL biobubble. However there were even some calling for the Chairman and CEO to be held accountable and resign.

Yet here, unbelievably the decision has been made by greedy administrators with no regard for human life to hold a tournament in the midst of record new cases that's overwhelming the healthcare system.

But those same posters are nowhere to be seen asking for their resignation.

Both the Pakistan Superspreader League and Indian Pandemic League should've been held in the UAE. These cricketers are not starving to death, how desperate can you be for a paycheck to carry on with this farce and putting their families at home through this.

 

[HitWicket]

The article literally says in the first line it's for the foreign players as a whole, there is no mention of it being specifically addressed to Australians exclusively, although it is mentioned that it is them that are most affected.

I didn't say it was exclusive to Australians, I said they'd be the key issue, i.e most effected. The point remains though that they get no advantages over anyone else eligible to travel from India to the UK at the moment.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Too much money at stake. Not easy to pull out.

 

[Mamoon]

I'll tell you what's hypocritical. There were many here blasting the PCB (rightly) for their handling of PSL biobubble. However there were even some calling for the Chairman and CEO to be held accountable and resign.

Yet here, unbelievably the decision has been made by greedy administrators with no regard for human life to hold a tournament in the midst of record new cases that's overwhelming the healthcare system.

But those same posters are nowhere to be seen asking for their resignation.

Both the Pakistan Superspreader League and Indian Pandemic League should've been held in the UAE. These cricketers are not starving to death, how desperate can you be for a paycheck to carry on with this farce and putting their families at home through this.

Hypocritical? You are making an illogical comparison.

Wasim and Mani were criticized not for hosting PSL during a pandemic but for their mismanagement.

They failed to impose the protocols and the biosecure bubble didn’t really exist, as people outside the bubble were frequently mingling with the players and even the fans were taking selfies.

Moreover, they were not testing the players frequently enough.

PCB was lax and irresponsible, and it backfired.

Whether or not the IPL should be held in these times has nothing to do with how BCCI has managed the tournament so far.

They are extremely strict about sustaining the bubble and ensuring that they players stay safe. They are also aggressively testing each member of the bubble twice a day.

In fact, BCCI should be lauded for their competence - they way they have managed to keep the players safe so far in spite of the crisis India finds itself in is miraculous.

They are in a far, far worse situation today than Pakistan was back in February, and if the PCB executives were arranging the IPL in India in these times, you can be sure that hundreds of players would be on ventilators by now, thanks to their incompetence and mismanagement.

As I said in the other thread, IPL should be postponed because it is not the right time to host a cricket tournament based on what the country is going through.

Hundreds of testing kits are being wasted every week to keep a cricket tournament running, and these kits could be used for the general public instead.

However, as far as BCCI executives are concerned, they have proved their competence and have showed that they are capable of hosting a tournament smoothly even in the worst of times.

This should give ICC a lot of confidence that India is the right place to host the WT20 in the pandemic because BCCI knows what it is doing.

If only Mani and Wasim were half as competent as BCCI executives, PSL would have been completed in March without any hiccups and drama.

 

[pakistani pride]

Too much money at stake. Not easy to pull out.

Is this some kind of joke?
Seriously what the ....

 

[pakistani pride]

Hypocritical? You are making an illogical comparison.

Wasim and Mani were criticized not for hosting PSL during a pandemic but for their mismanagement.

They failed to impose the protocols and the biosecure bubble didn’t really exist, as people outside the bubble were frequently mingling with the players and even the fans were taking selfies.

Moreover, they were not testing the players frequently enough.

PCB was lax and irresponsible, and it backfired.

Whether or not the IPL should be held in these times has nothing to do with how BCCI has managed the tournament so far.

They are extremely strict about sustaining the bubble and ensuring that they players stay safe. They are also aggressively testing each member of the bubble twice a day.

In fact, BCCI should be lauded for their competence - they way they have managed to keep the players safe so far in spite of the crisis India finds itself in is miraculous.

They are in a far, far worse situation today than Pakistan was back in February, and if the PCB executives were arranging the IPL in India in these times, you can be sure that hundreds of players would be on ventilators by now, thanks to their incompetence and mismanagement.

As I said in the other thread, IPL should be postponed because it is not the right time to host a cricket tournament based on what the country is going through.

Hundreds of testing kits are being wasted every week to keep a cricket tournament running, and these kits could be used for the general public instead.

However, as far as BCCI executives are concerned, they have proved their competence and have showed that they are capable of hosting a tournament smoothly even in the worst of times.

This should give ICC a lot of confidence that India is the right place to host the WT20 in the pandemic because BCCI knows what it is doing.

If only Mani and Wasim were half as competent as BCCI executives, PSL would have been completed in March without any hiccups and drama.

Any one who seriously believes all these tests a re negative cant be taken seriously. The PCR test is known for producing false positives. Worldwide many sports have been affected by this.

Also there are several so called VIPs and famely members in the stands. Players getting out and st times sitting on the stairs very close to groundstaff etc..

We all know your love for our dear parosees but be a little realistic.

 

[OMB]

Some foreign players were worried to continue playing in IPL 2021: BCCI official

After assuring overseas players of their safe passage home, a BCCI official has admitted that a few foreign players were thinking of leaving the IPL 2021 mid-way.

India is battling the 'worst of coronavirus' with the second wave of pandemic hitting the country hard. The impact of the virus has been so devastating that several countries across the world decided to enforce a travel ban on flights coming in from India. Reports emerged of a number of overseas players, especially Australians, wanting to head back home. The same has now been confirmed by a Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) official.

The handling of the pandemic has become a tricky task for health and civic authorities in India, with around 3.5 lakh fresh cases coming in every single day. Though the players participating in the IPL remain safe because of the bio-bubble, the anxiety levels of cricketers have risen having seen the devastation that the virus is causing outside the bubble.

After reports of a few players wanting to leave the IPL with the fear of being locked out of their own country due to travel restrictions surfaced, BCCI COO Hemang Amin wrote to all 8 franchises assuring that the Indian board is taking the responsibility of every player reaching home safely after the conclusion of the T20 league.

Now, a top BCCI official has confirmed that a number of overseas players were looking to leave the IPL before getting the required assurance from Amin.

“As the situation is, some foreign players were worried to continue, especially in regard to their return travel in these conditions, we have assured them we will take the responsibility of the same”, one of the top BCCI officials told InsideSport.

As things stand at the moment, Australia has banned the entry of passenger flights from India till May 15. While the IPL Season 14 is set to last till May 30, there are chances that the travel restrictions would be lifted by then. In a case where the travel restrictions aren't lifted, the players would have the option of either quarantining in another country before leaving for Australia or take a charter flight directly from India.

With there still being more than a month to go before the IPL concludes, it remains to be seen how the entire situation unfolds.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/ipl/article/some-foreign-players-were-worried-to-continue-playing-ipl-2021-bcci-official/750358

 

[OMB]

Some foreign players were worried to continue playing in IPL 2021: BCCI official

After assuring overseas players of their safe passage home, a BCCI official has admitted that a few foreign players were thinking of leaving the IPL 2021 mid-way.

India is battling the 'worst of coronavirus' with the second wave of pandemic hitting the country hard. The impact of the virus has been so devastating that several countries across the world decided to enforce a travel ban on flights coming in from India. Reports emerged of a number of overseas players, especially Australians, wanting to head back home. The same has now been confirmed by a Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) official.

The handling of the pandemic has become a tricky task for health and civic authorities in India, with around 3.5 lakh fresh cases coming in every single day. Though the players participating in the IPL remain safe because of the bio-bubble, the anxiety levels of cricketers have risen having seen the devastation that the virus is causing outside the bubble.

After reports of a few players wanting to leave the IPL with the fear of being locked out of their own country due to travel restrictions surfaced, BCCI COO Hemang Amin wrote to all 8 franchises assuring that the Indian board is taking the responsibility of every player reaching home safely after the conclusion of the T20 league.

Now, a top BCCI official has confirmed that a number of overseas players were looking to leave the IPL before getting the required assurance from Amin.

“As the situation is, some foreign players were worried to continue, especially in regard to their return travel in these conditions, we have assured them we will take the responsibility of the same”, one of the top BCCI officials told InsideSport.

As things stand at the moment, Australia has banned the entry of passenger flights from India till May 15. While the IPL Season 14 is set to last till May 30, there are chances that the travel restrictions would be lifted by then. In a case where the travel restrictions aren't lifted, the players would have the option of either quarantining in another country before leaving for Australia or take a charter flight directly from India.

With there still being more than a month to go before the IPL concludes, it remains to be seen how the entire situation unfolds.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/ipl/article/some-foreign-players-were-worried-to-continue-playing-ipl-2021-bcci-official/750358

I guess IPL will pay for their charter flights for every one of them. Even the franchises wouldn't mind. so the decision boils down to individual players risk appetite now.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The foreign players in the IPL have been assured by the BCCI that their safe return will be the responsibility of the BCCI. Will ordinary Indians get that sort of support?

https://www.business-standard.com/a...s-suspends-indian-flights-121042700693_1.html

Considering that Bcci donated close to 7mn usd to the covid relief work, i would say yes.

 

[Mamoon]

Any one who seriously believes all these tests a re negative cant be taken seriously. The PCR test is known for producing false positives. Worldwide many sports have been affected by this.

Also there are several so called VIPs and famely members in the stands. Players getting out and st times sitting on the stairs very close to groundstaff etc..

We all know your love for our dear parosees but be a little realistic.

I would trust the authorities, players and Indian media over jealous Pakistani fans who are praying for IPL players to test positive so that they can thump their chests and the tournament is postponed.

As long as the tournament is carrying on and all players are available and there are no concrete rumors of the players testing positive, there is absolutely no reason for me to believe that there have been positive cases within the IPL bubble just because it is the wish of certain Pakistani fans.

And the word you are looking for here is false negative not false positive.

 

[OMB]

‘Someone who has a family member on death bed doesn’t care about cricket’: Here’s why Adam Zampa left IPL 2021


Adam Zampa said he decided to quit IPL 2021 because it was the ‘most vulnerable’ bio-bubble he has been a part of. The RCB spinner it would have been better had BCCI hosted IPL in UAE, like last year.

Australian leg-spinner Adam Zampa opened up on his decision to pull out of the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021 midway. Zampa and Kane Richardson, who were a part of Royal Challengers Bangalore in the tournament, flew back home on Tuesday, citing personal reasons. Another Australian cricketer who joined them was Rajasthan Royals' Andrew Tye.

Speaking to the Sydney Morning Herald on Tuesday, Zampa said he decided to quit because it was the ‘most vulnerable’ bio-bubble he has been a part of. He added that the tournament should have been held in UAE, like last year.

“We’ve been in a few (bubbles) now, and I feel like this is probably the most vulnerable. I just feel like because it’s India, we’re always being told about the hygiene over here and being extra careful... I just felt like it was the most vulnerable,” said Zampa.

“The IPL that was held in Dubai six months ago didn't feel that way at all. I felt like that was extremely safe. Personally, I feel like that would have been a better option originally for this IPL, but obviously, there’s a lot of political stuff that goes into it.

“Obviously there's the T20 World Cup that’s meant to be happening here later this year. That's probably going to be the next discussion in the cricket world. Six months is a long time,” he added.

Zampa didn’t get a game this season after being bought for ₹1.5 crore. He said a lot of factors were responsible for his decision to leave the IPL.

“Obviously the COVID situation over here is pretty dire. I just felt, rocking up to training and stuff, obviously, I wasn’t playing in the team as well, I was going to training and I wasn’t finding the motivation. There were a few other things like bubble fatigue and the chance to get home, once all the news broke about the flights and everything. I thought this was the best time to make the call.”

Zampa has no regrets about the monetary loss he suffered by quitting the cash-rich tournament as he wanted to give priority to his mental health.

“There's a lot of people coming out and saying games of cricket could be a reprieve for some people but that's also going to be a personal answer. Someone who has a family member on their death bed probably doesn't care about the cricket.

“I feel like for leaving anyone leaving halfway through a tournament, it’s definitely a financial sacrifice. But from my point of view, I wanted to put my mental health first,” said Zampa.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/someone-who-s-a-family-member-on-death-bed-doesn-t-care-about-cricket-here-s-why-adam-zampa-left-ipl-2021-101619540140798.html

 

[pakistani pride]

I would trust the authorities, players and Indian media over jealous Pakistani fans who are praying for IPL players to test positive so that they can thump their chests and the tournament is postponed.

As long as the tournament is carrying on and all players are available and there are no concrete rumors of the players testing positive, there is absolutely no reason for me to believe that there have been positive cases within the IPL bubble just because it is the wish of certain Pakistani fans.

And the word you are looking for here is false negative not false positive.

1st of all I enjoy watching IPL and when I have the time I do watch the IPL. 2nd thing I am not jealous, why should I be jealous for a cricket tournament, I mean really?

See below link from the Netherlands which states that the more you test the more fals POSITIVE results you will get. I am exactly looking for the word FALS POSITIVE, you as a medical expert should know this.

Here in the NL we have many cases of testing with the PCR test which returned false positive results. its impossible to test 24/7 and not have a false positive test result.

And as I already said I watch the IPL and see players very close to the groundstaff / ordinary people etc...

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/ned...vals-positief-uitslag-klopt-niet-corona-marge

a simple google translate should do.

 

[krikit]

Zampa, Richardson, Tye and Ashwin.

That's 4, one of whom is Indian and the only guaranteed starter in the playing XI and has actual problems within his family.

Is this really that big of a deal?

 

[UzmanBeast]

If the big stars leave (ie. Warner, Smith, Maxwell, AB, Gayle, Russell, etc.), that's the only time I think BCCI will postpone the IPL.

 

[Mamoon]

1st of all I enjoy watching IPL and when I have the time I do watch the IPL. 2nd thing I am not jealous, why should I be jealous for a cricket tournament, I mean really?

See below link from the Netherlands which states that the more you test the more fals POSITIVE results you will get. I am exactly looking for the word FALS POSITIVE, you as a medical expert should know this.

Here in the NL we have many cases of testing with the PCR test which returned false positive results. its impossible to test 24/7 and not have a false positive test result.

And as I already said I watch the IPL and see players very close to the groundstaff / ordinary people etc...

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/ned...vals-positief-uitslag-klopt-niet-corona-marge

a simple google translate should do.

You are not making any sense because you don’t know what you are talking about. If there are false positive cases in IPL the tournament will be suspended immediately.

False positive means a person testing COVID positive without having the virus. If that happens in IPL that would be the end of the tournament just like PSL ended after positive cases.

I don’t need to read any sources from Netherlands when I am Pakistan-American qualified. America has no match in medical research and Pakistani doctors are more competent than Dutch doctors.

 

[HitWicket]

You are not making any sense because you don’t know what you are talking about. If there are false positive cases in IPL the tournament will be suspended immediately.

False positive means a person testing COVID positive without having the virus. If that happens in IPL that would be the end of the tournament just like PSL ended after positive cases.

I don’t need to read any sources from Netherlands when I am Pakistan-American qualified. America has no match in medical research and Pakistani doctors are more competent than Dutch doctors.

They're testing everyone in the bubble every other day, it's guaranteed that there will be false positives and that there already have been false positives.

 

[krikit]

If a person tests positive, they would be isolated and tested again. False positives would not be a big deal.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Considering that Bcci donated close to 7mn usd to the covid relief work, i would say yes.

That's fantastic, that means that there should be no one in India catching Covid then, as all will be safe in a bio secure bubble.

 

[pakistani pride]

You are not making any sense because you don’t know what you are talking about. If there are false positive cases in IPL the tournament will be suspended immediately.

False positive means a person testing COVID positive without having the virus. If that happens in IPL that would be the end of the tournament just like PSL ended after positive cases.

I don’t need to read any sources from Netherlands when I am Pakistan-American qualified. America has no match in medical research and Pakistani doctors are more competent than Dutch doctors.

Well your the one making no sense. The PCR test is known for producing false positive cases. A good example is Rolland Garros where a player tested positive had to leave only to find out 24hrs it was false. The source isnt perse from NL its basic info/research.

So to keep believing that with multiple testing on individuals no case has been detected shows your attitude, and then your the so called expert.

Again I watch the IPL and unless all the people in the stadium are in the bubble you can sort of go with it but does that mean also grounfstaff, ball boys, cleaners, etc etc?

 

[Mamoon]

They're testing everyone in the bubble every other day, it's guaranteed that there will be false positives and that there already have been false positives.

The chances of false positive cases are extremely low, and if there are false positive cases, the tournament will be postponed immediately.

It appears that you don’t know what false positive means - false positive means testing positive for COVID when you don’t have the virus.

If a bunch of IPL players test positive, the tournament will be suspended immediately.

BCCI will not risk it based on the assumption that there could be a minute possibility that the players have tested false positive, and thus do not have COVID.

False negatives are very common, but false positives are extremely rare. False positive results = IPL postponement.

It is obvious that you are confusing false positive results with false negative.

 

[Mamoon]

Well your the one making no sense. The PCR test is known for producing false positive cases. A good example is Rolland Garros where a player tested positive had to leave only to find out 24hrs it was false. The source isnt perse from NL its basic info/research.

So to keep believing that with multiple testing on individuals no case has been detected shows your attitude, and then your the so called expert.

Again I watch the IPL and unless all the people in the stadium are in the bubble you can sort of go with it but does that mean also grounfstaff, ball boys, cleaners, etc etc?

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Let me explain again - if a IPL player would have tested false positive, or test false positive now, the tournament will be suspended.

BCCI will not risk running the tournament based on the assumption that the results might be false positive. This level of idiocy will not be expected even from PCB.

 

[Titan24]

\
“We’ve been in a few (bubbles) now, and I feel like this is probably the most vulnerable. I just feel like because it’s India, we’re always being told about the hygiene over here and being extra careful... I just felt like it was the most vulnerable,” said Zampa.

Thats a big thing to say and pretty surprising to know as well for outsiders. Zampa should have been more specific in my opinion. Is it something to do with the bubble which made him uncomfortable and to think that its vulnerable or everything happening outside of bubble which made him think its vulnerable?

Surely when you are saying this has been the "Most" vulnerable bubble he has been part of one would think he will provide bit more specifics as well.

So far there has been no official case of covid reported in the event if I am not wrong so the presented numbers and Zampa's statement regarding the bubble are kind of contradicting and dont really bring in any clarity.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

The chances of false positive cases are extremely low, and if there are false positive cases, the tournament will be postponed immediately.

It appears that you don’t know what false positive means - false positive means testing positive for COVID when you don’t have the virus.

If a bunch of IPL players test positive, the tournament will be suspended immediately.

BCCI will not risk it based on the assumption that there could be a minute possibility that the players have tested false positive, and thus do not have COVID.

False negatives are very common, but false positives are extremely rare. False positive results = IPL postponement.

It is obvious that you are confusing false positive results with false negative.

He isn’t confusing the two. He means false positives. What is the likelihood of a false positive?

 

[HitWicket]

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Let me explain again - if a IPL player would have tested false positive, or test false positive now, the tournament will be suspended.

BCCI will not risk running the tournament based on the assumption that the results might be false positive. This level of idiocy will not be expected even from PCB.

I'm not confusing anything. The chances of a false-negative are higher than a false-positive, there's still a chance of false-positives. With thousands of tests being carried out each week in the bubble it's pretty safe to assume it's near enough a statistical certainty that there will be a false-positive at some point.

 

[Napa]

As the article mentions, the key issue is clearly going to be for the Australians who look like they'll be stranded in India for a while until a flight becomes available. No one should really need any support to get back to the UK.

Pretty sure BCCI can charter a private plane to get the Australians back home.

 

[Napa]

The players don’t really have much to worry about unless they have preexisting medical conditions. The death rate is near zero for men less than 40 years old with no preexisting conditions.

Most would not give up a contract worth a million dollars for a 0.01% chance of dying.