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Ind fans are celebrating as if they are the direct beneficiaries of this largesse.
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Ind fans are celebrating as if they are the direct beneficiaries of this largesse.
Ind fans are celebrating as if they are the direct beneficiaries of this largesse.
Like i said, whenever i make this post a nationalist indian will come with his reasoning.
You can call youtube stupid all you want. Point is it is still the best video search browser.
And as usual, due to your nationalism(even though you live in australia where indians are not liked), you missed read my post or didn't understand it.
Highlights and player specific videos that are pisted on social media are part or the marketing. IPL fails at that due to high license fee
Don’t wiggle out now because your lie was caught. You made a false claim about highlights of the match being paid.
I corrected that now. Highlights of Ipl can be watched without any annoying YouTube advertisements for the fans. Player specific videos lol.. do check the channels of RCB/MI etc.
Who told you Indians are not liked in Australia. Off topic but Pakistani students and temporary visa holders have to go through a stringent biometrics and scanning even to get student visa or permanent resident visa here whereas Indian nationals are invited for studies and permanent resident visas without any such requirements.
Indians have started to become CEOs of top Australian companies here as well and in next 20 years will dominate the scene just like they do in America.
That tells us who is liked more.
Obvious deflection. You claimed that the PSL earns $12 million per season total. Is that true or false?
How much does psl earn from tv rights a year ?
$12mn. One IPL match gets more.
Barry Fry. Jimmy Greaves. Stan Flashman. Sloping pitch.)
You'd sit through 90 minutes of barnet v yeovil than watch IPL?
Bro there's not even a sponsored strategy break during those games nor is there shots of cheer leaders or celebrities in the crowd.
I think you are trolling.
The bids for non exclusive digital rights for 98 games over 5 years have reached 3.2mn usd per match
When the IPL sell a broadcast package for 98 of the 410 games you divide by 98 to get the per match value but when the EPL sell a broadcast package for 600 of the 1140 games you divide by 1140 to get the per match value...? Makes sense...
IPL 410 matches for Indian SC sold for rs 44075 cr or 5.72 bn. Thats nearly 14mn usd taking avg of 77 per USD. That is more than what EPL gets paid per match.
The 98 match package sold for 425mn usd is separate.
The overseas rights sold for around 150mn and bidding still ongoing is separate.
I know its hard for you to take this but thats hiw it is.
Reread my post.
And share footage of umran malik here thanks.
You've failed to understand my point. If you were consistent in the calculations you used you would divide the 425mn by all 410 games just like your EPL calculation has done. Instead you've just divided by the number of games the package includes to deliberately inflate the value/deflate the EPL value.
Dont know about the revenue numbers or the absurd comparison with EPL. Why do he need to compare? Cant he just keep IPL where it is, end of the day a T20 league? the viewership is falling and i m defo not a fan of IPL but i'd still say its up there with the best T20 leagues if not the best.
End of the day, nothing beats international cricket and test cricket.
Errrr ..... isn't it a better factor to celebrate than when Pakistani fans start doing Bhangra when some one says that PSL has better better standard of bowling than in IPL?
The reality is the IPL is pretty poor standard with lots of tedious matches, and the PSL is worse. But IPL can be getting a 10 trillion a year, but your average wont benefit one iota
On per match basis IPL revenue is more than EPL. Thats what Ganguly said. ESPN Cricinfo said the same.
So you watch the IPL?
What is this average? Who is this avg?
He probably meant per match broadcast deal which is still impressive feat but he should have said it more precisely instead of uttering blanket statement like this.
That isn't what Ganguly said, but even if he did both have been proven to be factually incorrect due to basing their calculations on the incorrect number of games. Proof has been provided for you in this very thread. Continuing to parrot the same false information doesn't make it any more true.
Your proof is your version. Various media outlets have said otherwise. You can mail them and convince them.
The EPL and IPL are both huge in their own sporting arenas. They are also well-known with every sports fan across the world, and many people who have only a passing interest in sports. In short, these famous leagues attract millions or even billions of people annually.
For the 2018-19 season, Nielson research reported that around 3.2 billion people watched the EPL. This was a 6% increase in figures for the 2019-20 season.While these figures are considered to be accurate, they only include people watching games at home. So, the actual viewing figure should be assumed to be considerably higher given that many people choose to watch EPL games in bars or on a mobile device.
By comparison, the 2021 IPL attracted a viewership of around 380 million. While this figure is considerably less than the number of EPL viewers, it’s important to remember that the IPL takes place over a shorter time period and fewer games so there are less opportunities to watch.
IPL is played over an approximate two month window with the EPL over 10 months.
Overall, it’s clear that followers of the EPL exceed those of the IPL by a considerable amount. Fans of the EPL number in their billions globally whereas worldwide fans of the IPL number in their millions. However, it’s worth noting that the IPL was only founded in 2007 whereas the Premier League began in 1992.
If IPL was as long as EPL i.e for 10 months...there would be not much to choose between them and although different sports, it would be the ‘crown jewels’ of the Indian and UK sports markets;
Ipl price per match is $15.11 million and epl price per match is around $11million...there ends the discussion
Your proof is your version..
$12mn. One IPL match gets more.
How much does psl earn from tv rights a year ?
So we are talking about tv rights now? Is that what you meant when you claimed that "BCCI stands to earn USD 14 MN per match. Just to compare, PSL earns USD 12 million for a whole season."? Cut the bull, even a child can see that you're trying to change goal posts.
Total revenue for EPL per season dwarfs the IPL.
Now IPL apologists are in damage control by claiming IPL earns more per match.
Go pull wool over the eyes of others, even if you add the total revenue per match, IPL doesn't hold a candle to EPL revenue per season. Of course there are LESS IPL matches per season compared to EPL season. Bumping up the average will not dupe the educated.
Brings a new meaning to don't fake it until you make it.
Have you considered PPP equivalents ?
Yes. It was a comparison between broadcasting rights of PSL vs BCCI
Then why did you say "BCCI stands to earn USD 14 MN per match. Just to compare, PSL earns USD 12 million for a whole season."? Don't you think you should've specified that nonsense logic beforehand? Stop trying to backtrack from your original claims. Accept it and move on.
Have you considered the facts? Inc FX rate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue
Come back when IPL are in the rear view mirror of the EPL.
Ppp facilitates apples to apples comparison. It will be unwise to just compare dollar figures for two economic zones with vastly different cost structures.
And no, with PPP as well EPL earns higher (7.3 bn usd per year ) than ipl (,4.3 Bn usd per year). But the difference is nowhere stark enough and given IPL is constrained by a two month window vs EPL having 10 months to play around with, I'd say it's just a matter of time before IPL overtakes EPL even on a gross basis. Mostly likely by 2030, if it expands to 4-5 months
Look, you saying it’s just a matter of time IPL overtakes EPL on gross basis is NOT the same as the claim made in the OP is proof that IPL apologists realise the truth, and will resort to any granular excuse, be it revenue per matches, or PPP comparison, to prove otherwise.
So, let me know when IPL does overtake EPL in terms of gross revenue.
Let ipl get a year long window and let's talk comparisons
Will the conclusion change if it was about earnings of bcci from ipl vs earnings of psl ?
Again, you missed the point. You harp about billions, but dont look at the actual product.Go find the video from any platform that floats your boat.
You made a false claim, then instead of acknowledging that are again wiggling out. The marketing of IPL has got it 5 billion USD till now and made it top 5 leagues in the world. Leave running of multi billion dollar ventures to Indians.. you guys in Pakistan just enjoy the show
Don’t talk to me, talk to Ganguly who made the comparison.
There’s also a small point of decline in IPL viewership this year. Hmmmm.
In return, the broadcasting companies that buy the rights have to make money by selling highlights and player videos at a license fee. Free player videos are not uploaded on youtube or even fb, thus, content isnt shared nor viewable easily. This limits the marketing of the ipl.
Anyone still thinks Ganguly and Indians are delusional? )
Total revenue for EPL per season dwarfs the IPL.
Now IPL apologists are in damage control by claiming IPL earns more per match.
Go pull wool over the eyes of others, even if you add the total revenue per match, IPL doesn't hold a candle to EPL revenue per season. Of course there are LESS IPL matches per season compared to EPL season. Bumping up the average will not dupe the educated.
Brings a new meaning to don't fake it until you make it.
IPL season = 2 months
EPL season = 10 months
So ofcourse revenue for later will be more if you compare entire season?
Instead of bragging about the money BCCI is going to make, Ganguly needs to concentrate on how to make our cricket better and how we can win matches, which we have sadly forgotten to win.
This comes on a day when English test team registered such a great win against all odds.
It's a sad day for intelligence when IPL apologists believe media rights comprise of 100% revenue.
Simply not true.
There is more to revenue than just media rights.
1. Ticket/Gate sales
2. Merchandise sales
3. Sponsorship
Example : CR7 when joining Man U for his second stint was responsible for £187M in shirt sales alone, WORLDWIDE. This is just one player in the EPL.
How many worldwide IPL fans buy Dhoni/Kohli IPL shirts? The majority of shirts with said names are Indian team shirts anyway, that too from 2011!
Don't know the source of the above, but fair play to them for using consistent calculations by dividing the total broadcast revenue by the total number of games rather than selectively changing their calculation depending on what they want to show. I'd still argue it's not an accurate way of representing the per game value of broadcast deals though because they're crediting part of the deal to games that the broadcasters aren't actually paying for.
Not to forget Pakistan overtaking India in ICC ODI Rankings.
Have to say that those IPL shirts look ugly and cheap in front of Man Utd shirts.
OMgoodness. IPL is touching close to NFL ?
I can see Cowboys owner like Jerry Jones or his son Stephen Jones buying an IPL franchise soon...
How is IPL getting soo big ?
OMgoodness. IPL is touching close to NFL ?
I can see Cowboys owner like Jerry Jones or his son Stephen Jones buying an IPL franchise soon...
How is IPL getting soo big ?
Bro...stop being over joyed about Pakistan overtaking India in ODIs. I have seen you bought this point couple of times in last few days.
Pakistan overtaken India in ODI table for the first and only time in last 15 years and that too by 1 point. Its akin to how they became no.1 test side under Misbah for few days. Whenever India plays ODI series next, they would overtake Pakistan again...so relax. LOL.
Because Cricket is overwhelming the Favourite Sport of 140 Crores of Humanity whose income is rising with every passing year
Sure Ronaldo's shirt generates millions of sales worldwide. Football may have a slightly more prestigious reputation at the moment, but things are changing.
But what shirt does Ronaldo's son wear?
He wears a Mumbai Indians shirt with Sura Kumar Yadav on the back.
That should tell you what way the momentum is going.
140 crores? Does this number also include people below the poverty line? Or those who are barely putting food on their table?
140 crores? Does this number also include people below the poverty line? Or those who are barely putting food on their table?
I am no broadcasting revenue expert but, calculating the value of leagues must not be as simple as getting the total broadcasting revenue and dividing it my number of matches. It has to take into account the number of products from a particular company customers are willing to buy along with what price, in this case league the broadcasters are willing to buy. For EPL they are willing to pay $11m per match for a period of 10 months and around 380 matches. You increase the number of matches and period of a league which has much limited demand in comparison the fee per match is going to come down hugely and the model might not even be feasible.
EPL doing $11m over the period of 10 months actually shows how much bigger the EPL is. Does anyone here really believe that if (Thats a big if) BCCI increases the window to 10 months the per match broadcasting fee per match of IPL will remain $13.5m? I would be surprised if its even 1/4 or less then what it currently is for a 2 month or so window. There wont be much eye balls wanting to watch a league in a T20 cricket format for the period of 10 whopping months.
The thing which makes EPL this big is that people around the world are willing to watch it for 10 months and broadcasters are willing to pay $11m per match for a period of 10 months and around 380 matches. IPL earning a broadcast fee of $13.5m over a period of 2 months and 70 odd matches just shows how much smaller it is in front of some of the biggest leagues but, how is it a surprise? Cricket is not as global a sport as football or some other sports. Demand of IPL is limited in comparison.
There are pretty smart people on the forum, surprised that how they are hellhounds on proving that IPL>EPL by using odd logics when its not even close and the way they are estimating is not a direct comparison. EPL being 10 month league with 380 matches and earning $11m per match just reflects how much bigger of a product that is. People assuming its just because of the window of 10 months vs 2 months of IPL are completely ignoring the concept of demand and maintaining a sum of $11m for a period of 10 months and over 380 matches.
Anyone still thinks Ganguly and Indians are delusional? )
Yeah truly amazing. My question here again is what benefit do we get if IPL makes a lot of money? , or more importantly what benefit does the common Indian man, woman and their dog get from this statistic?This is simply brilliant. IPL in just 14 years surpassed all leagues and only 2nd to NFL.
Amazing stuff.
Yeah truly amazing. My question here again is what benefit do we get if IPL makes a lot of money? , or more importantly what benefit does the common Indian man, woman and their dog get from this statistic?