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IPL in UAE has badly exposed PSL in UAE

Mesozoic said:
That's exactly the point.

If Warner bairstow pandey can't chase that down, you just have to appreciate the bowling.

It's a different story when it's Dunk, Delport and Bopara.
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It's not only Dunk Delport Waldon Bopara......why u guys pick and choose the players who are less famous everytime...... i can choose Udana Tye Short .....it's same.....
When Gayle gets unsold ...u know it's doesn't need firecrackers.....it already has enough as I listed in another thread.....
 
naseem said:
Both teams crawled to 130 odd.....both teams belong to a 13 year old league of the richest board ........

A. PSl with 5 teams and outside home with limited finance has done well.

C. If a 13 year old league with international A Listers can crawl no harm in crawling.....with a decent set of batsmen and bowlers.
desire result
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Then stop jumping up and down with the hyperboles and get hold of the certain apparent limitations that the PSL have. It's not that hard.

Don't expect everyone to tow your line while you give all these excuses.
 
naseem said:
It's not only Dunk Delport Waldon Bopara......why u guys pick and choose the players who are less famous everytime...... i can choose Udana Tye Short .....it's same.....
When Gayle gets unsold ...u know it's doesn't need firecrackers.....it already has enough as I listed in another thread.....
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No it certainly doesn't.

Many sensible posters here have acknowledged the fact that PSL badly needs international stars with more pedigree than it currently has. You're surely in a tiny minority that thinks PSL has "enough".
 
Mesozoic said:
Then stop jumping up and down with the hyperboles and get hold of the certain apparent limitations that the PSL have. It's not that hard.

Don't expect everyone to tow your line while you give all these excuses.
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Yes u are ri8....PSL , being a 15 years old competition is unable to attract batsmen and bowler of higher pedigree ,although those batsmen are financially lured by IPL,which is only 2 years old ..PSL is a flop show....should have contracted A Listers ,higher pedigree batsmen like Finch,who is lighting the IPL this year with his monstrous SRs and GAGAN CHUMBI sixes..... PSl must look at its younger rival IPL which is hosted outside from beginning unlike PSL which is happening in Pak...from its inception....

Sarcasm over.....
Now don't expect everyone to shake their head and support your every opinion.
You are an IPL fan who can't see beyond the glamour and lights of IPL..... PSL is happening only 6 years that too only once in Pak..... Fans need to be patient and don't expect it to be compared to IPL,the oldest international premier t20 league which has all thing at an international standard baring local pacers....

Mesozoic said:
Well most of the best batsmen in the world play in the IPL. So, it's fantastic to see bowlers coming out on top.

It cannot be compared to watching Ramdin, Walton and co. crawling their way to 130.
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Mesozoic said:
That's exactly the point.

If Warner bairstow pandey can't chase that down, you just have to appreciate the bowling.

It's a different story when it's Dunk, Delport and Bopara.
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This shows ur hypocrisy.....these two posts are enough to prove u r a not to be taken seriously IPL fan boy....

At the start u complain to the poor batsman quality in PSL which is why they normally crawl to 130....and when two IPL sides crawl to 130 and one can't even chase that down u gave credit to bowlers.
So PSL low scores are becoz of poor batsmen even though it had Duminy Ab McCallum Gayle Kp.....and now it has Malan, Babar,Roy Hales ....and when both IPL sides crawl it's due to bowling.....well well anything that suits ur NARRATIVE of PSL bashing and IPL worshipping
HATS off.......

I m not of those posters who tip their hat at ur every posts . U have Mamoon and many alike for that.....

Have a nice day
 
Things must be clear.....IPL and PSL SHOULD NOT B COMPARED BCOZ...

A. one happens mostly at home and the other has just happened once.

B. Psl is 6 yrs old and IPL is more than double 13...

C. If anything which can be compared are local batters and bowlers.....

D. Although overall bowling standard is high but take away foreign pacers...local pacers baring Bumrah Sami are all ordinary
 
naseem said:
Yes u are ri8....PSL , being a 15 years old competition is unable to attract batsmen and bowler of higher pedigree ,although those batsmen are financially lured by IPL,which is only 2 years old ..PSL is a flop show....should have contracted A Listers ,higher pedigree batsmen like Finch,who is lighting the IPL this year with his monstrous SRs and GAGAN CHUMBI sixes..... PSl must look at its younger rival IPL which is hosted outside from beginning unlike PSL which is happening in Pak...from its inception....

Sarcasm over.....
Now don't expect everyone to shake their head and support your every opinion.
You are an IPL fan who can't see beyond the glamour and lights of IPL..... PSL is happening only 6 years that too only once in Pak..... Fans need to be patient and don't expect it to be compared to IPL,the oldest international premier t20 league which has all thing at an international standard baring local pacers....





This shows ur hypocrisy.....these two posts are enough to prove u r a not to be taken seriously IPL fan boy....

At the start u complain to the poor batsman quality in PSL which is why they normally crawl to 130....and when two IPL sides crawl to 130 and one can't even chase that down u gave credit to bowlers.
So PSL low scores are becoz of poor batsmen even though it had Duminy Ab McCallum Gayle Kp.....and now it has Malan, Babar,Roy Hales ....and when both IPL sides crawl it's due to bowling.....well well anything that suits ur NARRATIVE of PSL bashing and IPL worshipping
HATS off.......

I m not of those posters who tip their hat at ur every posts . U have Mamoon and many alike for that.....

Have a nice day
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Naseem bhai he is not worth your time.

This guy posted a video of Dilbar Hussain being smashed in Australia by AB as proof that Dilbar is rubbish. Then when I posted a video of Dilbar taking 4-23, he said the batsman are rubbish.

Total write off in maturity on this bloke. He is at liberty with reality
 
I’m not even sure why we are respectful towards good Indian cricketers, it’s not like the Indians care or appreciate it.


Bumrah will be finished by 2023!
 
Rana said:
Naseem bhai he is not worth your time.

This guy posted a video of Dilbar Hussain being smashed in Australia by AB as proof that Dilbar is rubbish. Then when I posted a video of Dilbar taking 4-23, he said the batsman are rubbish.

Total write off in maturity on this bloke. He is at liberty with reality
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Yes bhai....I just showed his real side...... U r ri8 he is not 2 b taken seriously .......he will be on my ignore list
 
Rana said:
I’m not even sure why we are respectful towards good Indian cricketers, it’s not like the Indians care or appreciate it.


Bumrah will be finished by 2023!
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We r very respectful but don't get the same from a majority of posters across the border
 
Rana said:
I’m not even sure why we are respectful towards good Indian cricketers, it’s not like the Indians care or appreciate it.


Bumrah will be finished by 2023!
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Because they are deserving of respect and we would expect the same in return. Unfortunately, this feeling is not always reciprocated.
 
naseem said:
At the start u complain to the poor batsman quality in PSL which is why they normally crawl to 130....and when two IPL sides crawl to 130 and one can't even chase that down u gave credit to bowlers.
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I'll ignore all the emotional rubble as I understand your hurt but this part.......

I have said this repeatedly and I'll say it again .... the batting standards in the PSL (both domestic and overseas) are very low compared to that in the IPL where every top batsman in the world plays.

So restricting an IPL team to a low score is significantly tougher than restricting a PSL team. So whenever that happens you have to appreciate the bowlers. It's not rocket science. Even a child can understand that. Put aside your emotions for once and try to comprehend it. Not that hard if you ask me.
 
Rana said:
This guy posted a video of Dilbar Hussain being smashed in Australia by AB as proof that Dilbar is rubbish. Then when I posted a video of Dilbar taking 4-23, he said the batsman are rubbish.

Total write off in maturity on this bloke. He is at liberty with reality
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You posted a video of Dilbar bullying Haider Ali, Lewis Gregory and some nobodies I don't even remember in reply to him getting bashed by AB and Labu.

It's like defending Rashid khan's Morgan bashing at the world cup with a 6-fer he picked up against Scotland in Dehradun.
 
Mesozoic said:
I'll ignore all the emotional rubble as I understand your hurt but this part.......

I have said this repeatedly and I'll say it again .... the batting standards in the PSL (both domestic and overseas) are very low compared to that in the IPL where every top batsman in the world plays.

So restricting an IPL team to a low score is significantly tougher than restricting a PSL team. So whenever that happens you have to appreciate the bowlers. It's not rocket science. Even a child can understand that. Put aside your emotions for once and try to comprehend it. Not that hard if you ask me.
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Ignored...
 
Mesozoic said:
You posted a video of Dilbar bullying Haider Ali, Lewis Gregory and some nobodies I don't even remember in reply to him getting bashed by AB and Labu.

It's like defending Rashid khan's Morgan bashing at the world cup with a 6-fer he picked up against Scotland in Dehradun.
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Ignore 2.0......
 
Mesozoic said:
You posted a video of Dilbar bullying Haider Ali, Lewis Gregory and some nobodies I don't even remember in reply to him getting bashed by AB and Labu.

It's like defending Rashid khan's Morgan bashing at the world cup with a 6-fer he picked up against Scotland in Dehradun.
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As I said, you are at liberty with reality. You should not embarrass respectful indian posters here who participate sensibly in debates. Maybe it’s fine on 1 sided Indian forums where Pakistan and Pakistanis are not protected by the moderators, but here you will find things are done with more manners and class, plus logic.
 
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ShoonyaSifar said:
Nothing to do with UAE pitches. Anyone who follows IPL knows that due to the length of the tournament, the last phase of league matches tend to produce some low scoring matches.

In my observation, it's largely due to fatigue or some struggling teams going through poor team morale or panicking and making too many changes, but it has almost always happened in IPL for a few matches. And then it goes back to being business as usual towards the last phase. Will be the case with this edition as well.
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I beg your pardon?
Please don’t disrespect my by posting such complete and utter rubbish.

This thread is an insult and insults are thrown by insecure people lacking self respect.
 
Kohli and Ab going at 100 sr v Monu

Looks like Monu is a very high quality bowler and that’s the reason UAE has exposed poor Pakistani batting
 
RCB score 145-6 against the following bowlers:

Chahar
Sonu
Curran
Santner
Tahir
Jadeja


Considering the thread, I’m expecting this to be chased in 14-17 overs by CSK
 
Rana said:
RCB score 145-6 against the following bowlers:

Chahar
Sonu
Curran
Santner
Tahir
Jadeja


Considering the thread, I’m expecting this to be chased in 14-17 overs by CSK
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Sonu nahi sonu ka bhai Monu
 
Zaz said:
Is that why RCBs great batters barely made 140 today?
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Watch them come up with some ridiculous response. The bowling attack of CsK today isn’t even on par with most PSL bowling attacks
 
Honestly you can tell how good a bowler is by his name. The name should just ooze class and give you good vibes about the bowler's skill.

For instance; Shami, rabada, bumrah, nortje, Shaheen etc just sort of invokes a sense of classiness and regality when you hear their name being announced.

I will give you examples of bowlers whose names just won't resonate with greatness regardless of their skillset.

Shardul Thakur - screams fodder
Chahar - fodder. Yes his stats look good but you can just get the feeling that he isn't a quality bowler
Musa Khan - Cannon fodder
Natrajan - just doesn't sound like a fast bowler. Imagine yelling his name out loud when he tries to bowl a bouncer.
Tye - lol what kind of name is this
Stanlake - lol what?
Wiley - just creepy
Unadkat - unadkat with a brutal bouncer ROFL.
Rajpoot - Shi*poot.

Etc.
 
tyron_woodley said:
Honestly you can tell how good a bowler is by his name. The name should just ooze class and give you good vibes about the bowler's skill.

For instance; Shami, rabada, bumrah, nortje, Shaheen etc just sort of invokes a sense of classiness and regality when you hear their name being announced.

I will give you examples of bowlers whose names just won't resonate with greatness regardless of their skillset.

Shardul Thakur - screams fodder
Chahar - fodder. Yes his stats look good but you can just get the feeling that he isn't a quality bowler
Musa Khan - Cannon fodder
Natrajan - just doesn't sound like a fast bowler. Imagine yelling his name out loud when he tries to bowl a bouncer.
Tye - lol what kind of name is this
Stanlake - lol what?
Wiley - just creepy
Unadkat - unadkat with a brutal bouncer ROFL.
Rajpoot - Shi*poot.

Etc.
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:)))
 
Top speeds of some uncapped Indian pacers in the last two days

Prasidh Krishna - 149 kmph
Nagerkotti - 146 kmph
Kartik Tyagi - 146 kmph

So many other pacers like Mavi, Natarajan have hit 140+

Just a few years back, this would have been impossible to even think of so many young Indian pacers bowling 140+. They all need to get better at death bowling, which they can learn gradually

Among the capped young paces, Saini has been the most impressive. Shardul, Khaleel and Siraj have been the most disappointing and Unadkat does not deserve to be in IPL.
 
I think the thread title should be

“IPL in UAE has badly exposed the poor bowling standards of Indian trundlers in UAE”

Rajpoot will not disagree
 
ShoonyaSifar said:
Top speeds of some uncapped Indian pacers in the last two days

Prasidh Krishna - 149 kmph
Nagerkotti - 146 kmph
Kartik Tyagi - 146 kmph

So many other pacers like Mavi, Natarajan have hit 140+

Just a few years back, this would have been impossible to even think of so many young Indian pacers bowling 140+. They all need to get better at death bowling, which they can learn gradually

Among the capped young paces, Saini has been the most impressive. Shardul, Khaleel and Siraj have been the most disappointing and Unadkat does not deserve to be in IPL.
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Stop inflating or gassing up Indian pacers. Only Bumra, Shami and Saini are decent pacers
 
Kartik Tyagi can bowl 146kmh according to Sifr

27 runs in that over
 
Rana said:
I think the thread title should be

“IPL in UAE has badly exposed the poor bowling standards of Indian trundlers in UAE”

Rajpoot will not disagree
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Mate you have embarrassed yourselves enough today. Take a break.

"Sundar and Chahal will choke Chennai to death :murali"

:yk
 
Rana said:
RCB score 145-6 against the following bowlers:

Chahar
Sonu
Curran
Santner
Tahir
Jadeja


Considering the thread, I’m expecting this to be chased in 14-17 overs by CSK
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Well this thread has been vindicated enough for you. Don't you think?

They chased it in 18 overs. :msd
 
Mesozoic said:
Well this thread has been vindicated enough for you. Don't you think?

They chased it in 18 overs. :msd
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As I said, you are at liberty with reality. You should not embarrass respectful indian posters here who participate sensibly in debates. Maybe it’s fine on 1 sided Indian forums where Pakistan and Pakistanis are not protected by the moderators, but here you will find things are done with more manners and class, plus logic.
 
I can only imagine the carnage the day Pollard and Pandya both smash from both end.
 
Mesozoic said:
Well this thread has been vindicated enough for you. Don't you think?

They chased it in 18 overs. :msd
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Another immature post by you

This is why you should have to go through a maturity test before being allowed to post. What did your captain supreme (Kohli) say after the match? A score that was chased in 18.2 overs?
 
a simple 160 pitch where 195 was scored because 2 club level pace bowlers were eaten alive by Pandya
 
Rana said:
I think the thread title should be

“IPL in UAE has badly exposed the poor bowling standards of Indian trundlers in UAE”

Rajpoot will not disagree
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This from supporters of a league where batsmen like Kamran rule the roost.

Dude your PSL trundlers would have gone for 300 here
 
Rana said:
a simple 160 pitch where 195 was scored because 2 club level pace bowlers were eaten alive by Pandya
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Be that may, Kamran Akmal and Malik would never top our league
 
Lessons for IPL franchises

Always look for one premier pacer (international) and another Supporting pacer (international) to play in your XI

Add 1 local trundler only.

This should be a major step in fighting for play offs
 
Rana said:
As I said, you are at liberty with reality. You should not embarrass respectful indian posters here who participate sensibly in debates. Maybe it’s fine on 1 sided Indian forums where Pakistan and Pakistanis are not protected by the moderators, but here you will find things are done with more manners and class, plus logic.
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Only one who is left embarrassed here is you and it's pretty apparent with your not so smart deflection towards moderators and forums and whatnot.

Irony dies a thousand deaths when you talk about logic.
 
Rana said:
Lessons for IPL franchises

Always look for one premier pacer (international) and another Supporting pacer (international) to play in your XI

Add 1 local trundler only.

This should be a major step in fighting for play offs
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Even the CSK RCB match the way Siraj bowl.......fast bouncers on a slow pitch with fine leg up.....just asking for punishment.........Aa bayal mujhe maar
 
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ShoonyaSifar said:
He averages 27 and 21 in ODIs and T20Is. But he found his mojo in PSL against local bowlers who you and your friends claim are superior or at par with Cummins, Boult and Pattinson.
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Are the 3 bowlers local pacers ??? There lies ur answer..... ...anyway in his day he has tore apart Aussie pacers in t20 match more than once.....he is one of the best back foot player in Pak.....
 
Rana said:
Kartik Tyagi can bowl 146kmh according to Sifr

27 runs in that over
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And what does that prove? He did bowl 146 kmph.

Sami could bowl 155 kmph and got slaughtered on many occasions. Forget that, Hasnain, Musa, Harris Rauf all got similarly hit by Kamran, Ronchi and Ben Dunk. It's T20s, good bowlers go for runs
 
Deepak Chahar
Monu
Sam Curran

V

Kamran Akmal

He will sweep these kids for sixes
 
In a league where bowlers are still being killed by Gayle, people have an issue with Kamran topping charts
 
ShoonyaSifar said:
And what does that prove? He did bowl 146 kmph.

Sami could bowl 155 kmph and got slaughtered on many occasions. Forget that, Hasnain, Musa, Harris Rauf all got similarly hit by Kamran, Ronchi and Ben Dunk. It's T20s, good bowlers go for runs
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It proves you are a hate monger.

What are you even doing here???
 
Rana said:
In a league where bowlers are still being killed by Gayle, people have an issue with Kamran topping charts
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Gayle is the greatest T20 batsman of all time.

Kami jaani is a nobody who can only feast on PSL level bowlers....
 
naseem said:
Gayle who went unsold in a league called PSL
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Kamran who was unsold at IPL because of Anti Pakistan regime. He would have had a net worth of $20m from IPL by now if that wasn’t ever the case.
 
Rana said:
Kamran who was unsold at IPL because of Anti Pakistan regime. He would have had a net worth of $20m from IPL by now if that wasn’t ever the case.
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:))) For a guy who averages 21 in international T20’s.
 
Smbhayi said:
He won't definitely against SRH.. Sandeep Sharma was enough for him..
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Lol Deepak Chahar has got a few big wickets also this year. Sandeep will be sent to the Burj Khalifa by Kamran Akmal
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
But some rookie named abdv scored 38(39) against the same attack.
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Maybe the Indians acknowledge Dubai isn’t exactly batsmen friendly sometimes. But they won’t

And yes, Kamran loves these types of dibbly doblies.
 
Hitman said:
:))) For a guy who averages 21 in international T20’s.
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The guy has an IPL SR of 164......and t20 SR of 134 higher than the likes of Finchi Smithy and at par with Stokes.....:ua
Kami bhai would have been an IPL legend by now
 
Rana said:
Kamran who was unsold at IPL because of Anti Pakistan regime. He would have had a net worth of $20m from IPL by now if that wasn’t ever the case.
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Bhai, nothing against Kamran or you, but this is bit too much, lol (thoda zyada ho gaya, bahot zyada hi ho gaya)
 
tyron_woodley said:
iPL trundlers from domestic are poor.

PSL trundlers are worse

Indian bowlers frontline are better everywhere. Indian frontline international bowlers are easily top 2 in the world. That's all that matters.
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PSL trundlers are worse that's y u don't get 190ish scores in PSL in UAE against Sharjeel KP Umar Akmal Gayle Baz Morgan Watson Hafeez Kami AB Pollard Russell....:rizwan.....
Just imagine the delicious bowling Kami bhai would have played Parveen Mohit Msg Dinda till now Rajpoot Tyagi Mavi.....definitely a 5000plus IPL rainmaker if he would have played
 
naseem said:
PSL trundlers are worse that's y u don't get 190ish scores in PSL in UAE against Sharjeel KP Umar Akmal Gayle Baz Morgan Watson Hafeez Kami AB Pollard Russell....:rizwan.....
Just imagine the delicious bowling Kami bhai would have played Parveen Mohit Msg Dinda till now Rajpoot Tyagi Mavi.....definitely a 5000plus IPL rainmaker if he would have played
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Sadly i have to agree haha.
 
naseem said:
PSL trundlers are worse that's y u don't get 190ish scores in PSL in UAE against Sharjeel KP Umar Akmal Gayle Baz Morgan Watson Hafeez Kami AB Pollard Russell....:rizwan.....
Just imagine the delicious bowling Kami bhai would have played Parveen Mohit Msg Dinda till now Rajpoot Tyagi Mavi.....definitely a 5000plus IPL rainmaker if he would have played
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Maybe. Maybe not. But like I said bro. I can tell if a bowler is fodder or not by just looking at his physique and name. It gives me a vibe.
 
naseem said:
The guy has an IPL SR of 164......and t20 SR of 134 higher than the likes of Finchi Smithy and at par with Stokes.....:ua
Kami bhai would have been an IPL legend by now
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:)) Yea, a perennial failure with a capital F in international career would have pocketed $20 million from the IPL and would have been an IPL legend if only he were allowed to play. A player who has been out of the scene in the Pakistan team since ages, a team with pathetic batsmen all around. Completely believable.
 
Hitman said:
:)) Yea, a perennial failure with a capital F in international career would have pocketed $20 million from the IPL and would have been an IPL legend if only he were allowed to play. A player who has been out of the scene in the Pakistan team since ages, a team with pathetic batsmen all around. Completely believable.
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If a team of pathetic international nobody's can make money .....Kami bhai is a domestic giant and a t20 veteran.....
Not only Kami Malik ....professor would have raked in Moolah's and 4k runs atleast......Kami is an opener that's y i think he would have made 5k runs......

Now some of the million dollar baby of IPL....who are not even in the same league as Kami:yawn.
Yusuf Pathan...
Undakat
Robbie Uthappa

These r international failures too but they r rich ...so....before going into commerce and accounts of capital assets liabilities...... Enhance ur Logical skills....
:broad
 
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Hitman said:
:)) Yea, a perennial failure with a capital F in international career would have pocketed $20 million from the IPL and would have been an IPL legend if only he were allowed to play. A player who has been out of the scene in the Pakistan team since ages, a team with pathetic batsmen all around. Completely believable.
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The same team with pathetic batsmen has dished u many hammerings since ages.....Ijaz Miandad to Inzy Yousuf Afridi.....to an international discard like Nasir Younis Malik to Fakhar Hafeez ......the same team with pathetic batsmen alround has Babar Haris Haider Imam .....to look after ur bowlers.....:ds
Just a decade of superiority seems to have gotten into the mind of some ex cricketers and fans alike across the border....:ik:athers......whereby they have probably forgotten the hammering they r being dished out since ages....:misbah....
 
naseem said:
The same team with pathetic batsmen has dished u many hammerings since ages.....Ijaz Miandad to Inzy Yousuf Afridi.....to an international discard like Nasir Younis Malik to Fakhar Hafeez ......the same team with pathetic batsmen alround has Babar Haris Haider Imam .....to look after ur bowlers.....:ds
Just a decade of superiority seems to have gotten into the mind of some ex cricketers and fans alike across the border....:ik:athers......whereby they have probably forgotten the hammering they r being dished out since ages....:misbah....
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When I said about your team having pathetic batsmen, I meant since the time of Kamran Akmal. Historically you have produced good batsmen, although nowhere as good as India. When Kamran Akmal hasn't been able to find a place in a team consisting of pathetic batsmen, that tells a lot.
 
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