IPL in UAE has badly exposed PSL in UAE

[naseem]

This Pakistan 11 in today's match is not competing with top teams in world cricket. You are delusional if you disagree.

The pakistan XI that is playing today is not the best available XI......certainly not....once the Misbah curse is over then we can finally see the best team......
Certainly in a slow pitch u play at least two specialist spinner.... And I don't know why u have Imam Abid both similar type player opening putting too much pressure on Babar Haris .......won't be surprised if Pak loose one or even two matches

 

[Hasan123]

The pakistan XI that is playing today is not the best available XI......certainly not....once the Misbah curse is over then we can finally see the best team......
Certainly in a slow pitch u play at least two specialist spinner.... And I don't know why u have Imam Abid both similar type player opening putting too much pressure on Babar Haris .......won't be surprised if Pak loose one or even two matches

Even the best 11 in Pakistan is not good enough. But it would be nice if the best 11 was selected rather than players who aren't good enough or past their best.

 

[naseem]

Even the best 11 in Pakistan is not good enough. But it would be nice if the best 11 was selected rather than players who aren't good enough or past their best.

The best XI will be mostly of youngsters...like Haider Khushdil Zafar ...so they may get hiccups but still it's worth a try......no need such defensive team.....I won't be sad if Saheen is rested.....but no.....

 

[Indiafan]

Sohail Tanvir says hi.....
An old out of sync Azhar Mahmood says Hi....I m fine....what about you....
Suddenly an even old and out of action Tahir came running towards them and said hey what r u doing here.......

They all look amazed looking at each other......

I hope u r clever enough to understand the story and get the moral of the story.....

Yeah tanvir played on freak kolkata oitches. You really think he would shine in UAE? Azhar ws great in internarional cricket at that time

 

[Indiafan]

The pakistan XI that is playing today is not the best available XI......certainly not....once the Misbah curse is over then we can finally see the best team......
Certainly in a slow pitch u play at least two specialist spinner.... And I don't know why u have Imam Abid both similar type player opening putting too much pressure on Babar Haris .......won't be surprised if Pak loose one or even two matches

yeah and if india had the best XI playing, we would have won CT 2017, WC 2019 and all overseas series

 

[naseem]

yeah and if india had the best XI playing, we would have won CT 2017, WC 2019 and all overseas series

India has the best squads in 2013 2017 CT....2019 WC yes it can be better but still Rohit Kohli Pandya Jadu Dhoni in batting plus Bumrah Sami Bhuvi Kuldeep not bad at all

 

[naseem]

Yeah tanvir played on freak kolkata oitches. You really think he would shine in UAE? Azhar ws great in internarional cricket at that time

Azhar Mahmood was 40 that time LOL and he only playing in county blast ........still he looked better than many indian bowlers....LOL......Tanvir in UAE is a tricky customer ....difficult than in Pak or Asia .....he was at his prime....

 

[Rajdeep]

[MENTION=139165]naseem[/MENTION] - Asia cup?

 

[naseem]

[MENTION=139165]naseem[/MENTION] - Asia cup?

Asia Cup.....what....when Afghanistan and Bangladesh were better than both India and Pak

 

[naseem]

Varun Aron Nd Tyagi how similar in their stats and trajectory so far....they r of 2 generation but having same fate ......

 

[Rana]

Tiagi needs to be rested now, he’s had plenty of exposure which isn’t good for him as the real batters are waiting to feast on his bowling

 

[naseem]

Tiagi needs to be rested now, he’s had plenty of exposure which isn’t good for him as the real batters are waiting to feast on his bowling

He will net bowlers in Australia....

 

[Rana]

He will net bowlers in Australia....

Kohli loves to feel in good touch before a match. Tiagi and Nagarkoti will be great to provide that confidence

 

[naseem]

Kohli loves to feel in good touch before a match. Tiagi and Nagarkoti will be great to provide that confidence

Lol.....Cummins Hazelwood would test him....Starc don't know y he is not as deadly in his new action

 

[Mesozoic]

Legend Haris Rauf and lord Faheem Ashraf 120/0 in 20 overs against mighty Zimbabwe at home and PSL delusional f@nboys are still furiously typing away Lmao

I repeat... Shaheen is the only quality bowling talent in Pakistan right now. Rest all are just nobodies who are hyped either for their dubious official ages (like Naseem) or some mystical t@lunt and jazba that only a certain psl insecure hype brigade can see....

 

[cricketjoshila]

Legend Haris Rauf and lord Faheem Ashraf 120/0 in 20 overs against mighty Zimbabwe at home and PSL delusional f@nboys are still furiously typing away Lmao

I repeat... Shaheen is the only quality bowling talent in Pakistan right now. Rest all are just nobodies who are hyped either for their dubious official ages (like Naseem) or some mystical t@lunt and jazba that only a certain psl insecure hype brigade can see....

The psl hype brigade largely functions inside a echo chamber, outside of which most experts will laugh off a comparison of PSL to IPL.

 

[naseem]

Tyagi Aron Arshdeep combined... 128 runs in 11 overs @11.6 4...... by the way.....I think IPL F@nboys need some reality check instead of wasting on what Pak is doing thinking inking which deal etc etc
.

 

[naseem]

So IPL basically provides net bowlers ......we don't need net bowlers anyways....

 

[Rana]

Tyagi Aron Arshdeep combined... 128 runs in 11 overs @11.6 4...... by the way.....I think IPL F@nboys need some reality check instead of wasting on what Pak is doing thinking inking which deal etc etc
.

They are destroying the quality of the cricket. Maybe the IPL follows the rule as the worlds best football leagues and plays as many overseas players it can in one Match. No Indian Pace bowler will ever be selected

 

[Mesozoic]

The psl hype brigade largely functions inside a echo chamber, outside of which most experts will laugh off a comparison of PSL to IPL.

I kinda understand their frustration tbh.

They always had inferior batsmen to ours throughout their cricketing history and now too....

Leaving aside a few occasions here and there, they always had inferior spin bowlers to us and now too...

Only thing they used to boast of for years was their superiority in the fast bowling department and slowly that too began going away and now tables have turned completely in that area too...

So to paint a clear picture , they currently have an inferior team in all the three formats, have inferior batsmen, bowlers (both spinners and pacers) and well..... fielders too. Have a franchise league which is miles behind you know what in every possible way...

Now it has all come down to claiming superiority in reserve fast bowling resources )) ) with zero logic substance and only on their very obvious bias and emotions...

We have to understand.

 

[naseem]

They are destroying the quality of the cricket. Maybe the IPL follows the rule as the worlds best football leagues and plays as many overseas players it can in one Match. No Indian Pace bowler will ever be selected

In future we may see 5 overseas players with 3 pacers.......2 bat or may be even 4 pacers...LOL

 

[Rana]

In future we may see 5 overseas players with 3 pacers.......2 bat or may be even 4 pacers...LOL

BCCI will have to make a quota system to save their pacers

“You can pick 10 international players but you must play one Indian fast bowler”.

 

[naseem]

BCCI will have to make a quota system to save their pacers

“You can pick 10 international players but you must play one Indian fast bowler”.

That phaast bowler may be 30 yr old NATRAJAN type...

 

[naseem]

Tyagi Aron Arshdeep combined... 128 runs in 11 overs @11.6 4...... by the way.....I think IPL F@nboys need some reality check instead of wasting on what Pak is doing thinking inking which deal etc etc
.

Sorry can't get the figures for 12 overs....it would have been fun....but poor Arshdeep didn't get to bowl

 

[ravisurya]

Harris Rauf today displayed he has Jazba and Dilleri which Indian Bowlers are missing and combination of both along with being a little Natkhat leads to being talented. Sadly Indian bowlers just dont have it, Indian fans will have to just make do with their team being one of the tops teams in all formats but still have no talent.

 

[Indiafan]

Don't complain until both team have. Batted

Cannot score 300 against zimbabwe. Yet claim the scores are low in psl becuaee of good bowling. If the bowling was good, the average score should be 120 against players who canot score 300 against zimbanwe in ODIs

 

[Indiafan]

Harris Rauf today displayed he has Jazba and Dilleri which Indian Bowlers are missing and combination of both along with being a little Natkhat leads to being talented. Sadly Indian bowlers just dont have it, Indian fans will have to just make do with their team being one of the tops teams in all formats but still have no talent.

No, you see its the young bowlers we are talking about. When it comes to unknown, you can claim anything because it's not Apple to apples

In international bowling there are small inconvenience of bowler stats, rankings etc which get in the way. So instead its easy to compare domestic leagues of completely different standards and then self proclaim every thing you have as the best and the other side as inferior

Get with the program bro

 

[Mesozoic]

Harris Rauf today displayed he has Jazba and Dilleri which Indian Bowlers are missing and combination of both along with being a little Natkhat leads to being talented. Sadly Indian bowlers just dont have it, Indian fans will have to just make do with their team being one of the tops teams in all formats but still have no talent.

Have to agree.

The kind of jazba and daleri that the Pak t@ilunts like Shaheen, Naseem etc have shown in Australia and England is unparalleled. Musa and Rauf as well have proven that they aren't short of jazba and badmashi with their performances so far ...

Sad reality for Indian fans. We desperately need a high daleri enabling coach to have for once the forbidden fruit that is t@ilunt.

 

[Indiafan]

BCCI will have to make a quota system to save their pacers

“You can pick 10 international players but you must play one Indian fast bowler”.

out of the top 5 most valuable bowlers in 2020 IPL, top 4 are fast bowlers with 1 spinner Rashid

Out of those 4, 3 are indian fast bowlers with 1 other being archer, at no 3

But don't let facts come in the way of your fantasies

 

[naseem]

Cannot score 300 against zimbabwe. Yet claim the scores are low in psl becuaee of good bowling. If the bowling was good, the average score should be 120 against players who canot score 300 against zimbanwe in ODIs

So when scoring 300 versus Zimbos is a criteria to be a good team ...... It's not even the best xi No Fakhar Haider Khushdil

 

[Indiafan]

So when scoring 300 versus Zimbos is a criteria to be a good team ...... It's not even the best xi No Fakhar Haider Khushdil

Clearly the selecter/ coach disagrees with the best XI

I am talking about the standard of batting. If this is the international standard of batting, surely PSL stansard is too low, which makes the bowlers seem better than they are

 

[ufcfan]

Tyagi Aron Arshdeep combined... 128 runs in 11 overs @11.6 4...... by the way.....I think IPL F@nboys need some reality check instead of wasting on what Pak is doing thinking inking which deal etc etc
.

Offtopic but still
Before a record odi total against Australia the famous record was with Pakistan who in 2016 conceded highest odi total against England and that was their best attack which did the honours,nnnnnnooo im not even talking about reserves

 

[leg-side-flick]

Legend Haris Rauf and lord Faheem Ashraf 120/0 in 20 overs against mighty Zimbabwe at home and PSL delusional f@nboys are still furiously typing away Lmao

I repeat... Shaheen is the only quality bowling talent in Pakistan right now. Rest all are just nobodies who are hyped either for their dubious official ages (like Naseem) or some mystical t@lunt and jazba that only a certain psl insecure hype brigade can see....

Pak domestic fast bowlers are good in PSL but somehow EVIL Misbah doesn't select them for international matches and that's why their International fast bowling isn't as good as India.

Case solved.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Tyagi is 19 years old ,he is 6 ft tall and bowls 140 .Yes the control and intelligence is missing but still he is one of the top prospects for us .Trolling him is quite risky.

 

[M_kor]

Clearly the selecter/ coach disagrees with the best XI

I am talking about the standard of batting. If this is the international standard of batting, surely PSL stansard is too low, which makes the bowlers seem better than they are

Ahaa so you finally cracked it ! ....Say whatever you want but Indian team is hype ..... First win something big and then we may talk but before that your team's one big hype like your Bollywood movies ..KL this bumrah that but damn we lost in semis ..back to sq1 ,beat westendies, Lanka at home and here we go , hypes back in the business.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Actually I was trying to be nice. I am still with team Asia for life but I don't think our neighbours would want to see us succeed. They would rather suck up to the SENA nations for some ungodly reason. that's a shame.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Ahaa so you finally cracked it ! ....Say whatever you want but Indian team is hype ..... First win something big and then we may talk but before that your team's one big hype like your Bollywood movies ..KL this bumrah that but damn we lost in semis ..back to sq1 ,beat westendies, Lanka at home and here we go , hypes back in the business.

We were ranked number 1 in tests for 4 years.
We were number 1/2 in odi's for 4 years.

We lost in semis of ICC tournaments I agree. Will be a matter of time. 2023 India will win the WC. Probably the 2021 WC too. Most likely the world test championship too.

 

[naseem]

Tyagi is 19 years old ,he is 6 ft tall and bowls 140 .Yes the control and intelligence is missing but still he is one of the top prospects for us .Trolling him is quite risky.

Same goes for Hasnain Musa Naseem Akif.......only Rauf is 26 ......trolling them is too risky

 

[naseem]

We were ranked number 1 in tests for 4 years.
We were number 1/2 in odi's for 4 years.

We lost in semis of ICC tournaments I agree. Will be a matter of time. 2023 India will win the WC. Probably the 2021 WC too. Most likely the world test championship too.

To main nachu

 

[naseem]

Actually I was trying to be nice. I am still with team Asia for life but I don't think our neighbours would want to see us succeed. They would rather suck up to the SENA nations for some ungodly reason. that's a shame.

It's the other way round.....look around posters inside the border not across the border...

 

[naseem]

Offtopic but still
Before a record odi total against Australia the famous record was with Pakistan who in 2016 conceded highest odi total against England and that was their best attack which did the honours,nnnnnnooo im not even talking about reserves

Saeed Anwar had 194 HS too..
Pak was the first and only ASIAN team to win ODI series in SA too
S Afridi had fastest century record too...
PAk had the record of not losing a test series in England for a decade too....

Records are mean to broken and made ...even Aussies who are 5 time champion have conceded the then highest score of 435 odd against SA..

INDIA yes India has the dubious record of conceding most 300 runs since 2012.....

So records are there 2 b made and broken....don't just pick and choose the one u like ......2 humiliate some team....

Any way it's off topic but needed this 2 enhance ur skills

 

[M_kor]

We were ranked number 1 in tests for 4 years.
We were number 1/2 in odi's for 4 years.

We lost in semis of ICC tournaments I agree. Will be a matter of time. 2023 India will win the WC. Probably the 2021 WC too. Most likely the world test championship too.

Rankings don't mean nothing especially when it comes to this gas balloon Indian team ..comeback when you win something untill then you're just another bunch of big names who were failures to win anything big .

 

[M_kor]

I strongly believe that the Indian team is the biggest DHOKA on this planet.. I'm not going to fall for names like Rohit Kohli bumrah ...when it matters these guys choke and then their fans cry for rest of their lives saying ..oh we almost had it , had he done this or umpire made that call ...come brooo..been making a fool out of the entire cricketing community for a while now .....Pakistan came in with a garbage team in champions trophy and showed you guys your real auqaaat ....win a big ICC champion ship finals then we are taking untill then you're just a 90s South African team..who somehow stay number 1 but chokes big in the semis

 

[tyron_woodley]

It's the other way round.....look around posters inside the border not across the border...

Nope. More common among you lot which is a shame. I am still forever with team Asia though.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Rankings don't mean nothing especially when it comes to this gas balloon Indian team ..comeback when you win something untill then you're just another bunch of big names who were failures to win anything big .

Ok. We will.

 

[naseem]

Nope. More common among you lot which is a shame. I am still forever with team Asia though.

U r posts are team IPL.....if u can't see or want 2 acknowledge it's ur problem......

 

[naseem]

Ok. We will.

We won't mind if u win countless u19 WCs......as long as ur products are Pant Shaw Chand Mavi Thampi Nagarkoti Tyagi.......honestly we won't mind

 

[naseem]

Nope. More common among you lot which is a shame. I am still forever with team Asia though.

The amount of ownership u claim or ur posters claim about IPL and their products even overseas players is a real shame.....Failure to see the fault among own countrymen is a bigger shame.........Lol

 

[naseem]

I strongly believe that the Indian team is the biggest DHOKA on this planet.. I'm not going to fall for names like Rohit Kohli bumrah ...when it matters these guys choke and then their fans cry for rest of their lives saying ..oh we almost had it , had he done this or umpire made that call ...come brooo..been making a fool out of the entire cricketing community for a while now .....Pakistan came in with a garbage team in champions trophy and showed you guys your real auqaaat ....win a big ICC champion ship finals then we are taking untill then you're just a 90s South African team..who somehow stay number 1 but chokes big in the semis

Only Aussies of 2000s.....England now and earlier Windies are real deal....

 

[Ab Fan]

Bumrah making DC batters dance to the tune. Good solid practice going for the Australian tour.

 

[Rana]

DC batting on this track has exposed PSL

 

[naseem]

DC batting on this track has exposed PSL

Big time......I expected similar scores but then u have the Despandes.....Tyagis....Kotis.....to spice things up

 

[tyron_woodley]

We won't mind if u win countless u19 WCs......as long as ur products are Pant Shaw Chand Mavi Thampi Nagarkoti Tyagi.......honestly we won't mind

Like I said our real talents come out of first class system.

 

[tyron_woodley]

The amount of ownership u claim or ur posters claim about IPL and their products even overseas players is a real shame.....Failure to see the fault among own countrymen is a bigger shame.........Lol

Not me. Don't give a damn about others. I am always pro Asia.

But Pakistan just aren't good enough at the moment. They may get better and I hope they do.

 

[naseem]

Like I said our real talents come out of first class system.

I know I know.......

 

[Rana]

Like I said our real talents come out of first class system.

So when kp says “IPL, the worrrrlllddsss greatest ekedamyyyyyyyy”,

He’s lying?

 

[tyron_woodley]

So when kp says “IPL, the worrrrlllddsss greatest ekedamyyyyyyyy”,

He’s lying?

Yes. imo you shouldn't even get picked to play IPl or you don't excel in red ball cricket. that's how it should work but each to their own. India have started to implement that system but ofcourse some individuals always get a chance to play IPl due to their connections regardless of their skill.

Networking and developing connections is a far better skill to have than actual cricket skill itself in the modern era especially amongst desis.

 

[tyron_woodley]

This is the best era for fast bowlers imo.

India have bumrah and Shami
Aussies have Cummins and ? Hazelwood
Saffers have nortje rabada
England have joffra and wood
Pakistan have Shaheen and well hopefully someone else like ?
N.z have Lockie, Boult
Sri Lanka have Lakmal and that really quick dude. Forgot his name
West Indies have Gabriel, and alzarri Joseph




This era don't have express Pacers but there are many who can bowl 140 plus consistently.

In the past there were 2 or 3 express Pacers who were injury prone but not many could crank it up to 140 plus regularly.

 

[Rajdeep]

When a league has domestic batsman like Ishan Kishan who is hitting premium international bowlers like Rabada etc for fun...its hard to compare its quality with other leagues. IPL has totally broken the myth that run scoring/six hitting is tougher in low and slow UAE wickets. Must admit that OP is totally correct.

 

[naseem]

Like I said our real talents come out of first class system.

That system sadly didn't produce Ashwin Bumrah Jaddu......U can say whatever but I don't see ny good pacer beyond Sami Bumrah Buvi

 

[hitthestump]

This is the best era for fast bowlers imo.

We'll never see an era like the 90's again. THAT was a fast bowling dream era.

The names you've mentioned are all good but none can compare to that.

 

[tyron_woodley]

We'll never see an era like the 90's again. THAT was a fast bowling dream era.

The names you've mentioned are all good but none can compare to that.

nope. current era is the best. 90s wasnt batsman friendly. lots of dubious calls and no drs etc.

current era bowlers are the best.

 

[tyron_woodley]

That system sadly didn't produce Ashwin Bumrah Jaddu......U can say whatever but I don't see ny good pacer beyond Sami Bumrah Buvi

india have plenty.
porel
prasidh
saini
siraj
hell even avesh khan

are all very good red ball cricketers. dont judge them based on t20 efforts.

 

[Rana]

Loving this Sharjah track today. On course to expose the PSL

 

[naseem]

india have plenty.
porel
prasidh
saini
siraj
hell even avesh khan

are all very good red ball cricketers. dont judge them based on t20 efforts.

Yes yes I have forgotten the now benched Avesh who was replaced by Despande LOL

 

[naseem]

We'll never see an era like the 90's again. THAT was a fast bowling dream era.

The names you've mentioned are all good but none can compare to that.

Exactly...that was the best era......and m glad my childhood spent in that era not in these 20 20 era

 

[tyron_woodley]

Exactly...that was the best era......and m glad my childhood spent in that era not in these 20 20 era

lol fraud corrupt era sure. 90s was mediocre as hell. just names. Thats it. now its better than ever. many teams have quality talent.

pakistan indeed were great in the 90s though.

 

[naseem]

lol fraud corrupt era sure. 90s was mediocre as hell. just names. Thats it. now its better than ever. many teams have quality talent.

pakistan indeed were great in the 90s though.

We lost Zimbos.....Kenyas....Windies team of that time.... Even after having Afghanistan and some Ireland that loss is gr8.....big loss.Zimbos had Streak Olonga......Johnson.....Guy Whittall......my goodness.....Kenya with Oteinos...and all.....every team has good bowling attack ...even poor team India had Kumble

 

[Braveheart]

the uae leg of psl has always proved to be a dull affair with the odd exciting match. Scratchy, sluggish batting, over-reliance on spin bowlers etc.

However, ipl in uae has showed that the problem is more with the lack of quality players in psl rather than the nature of pitches.

This year’s ipl so far has been as good as any other ipl. Players like kl rahul, samson, agarwal, rohit, faf, bairstow, gill etc. Have light up uae with some hugely entertaining performances.

Bear in mind that they playing in empty stadiums as well. The entertainment factor has still been top notch.

We need to address the elephant in the room - psl’s standard of batting is shockingly poor and you cannot have a high quality t20 league without high quality batsmen.

If you compare ipl in uae with psl in uae, it would prove to be a very embarrassing comparison for psl.

Pakistani leg of psl is better but still far behind uae ipl.

Ipl really is the gold standard of t20 cricket. It clearly deserves the success that it has enjoyed.

ipl = trash bowling

 

[tyron_woodley]

We lost Zimbos.....Kenyas....Windies team of that time.... Even after having Afghanistan and some Ireland that loss is gr8.....big loss.Zimbos had Streak Olonga......Johnson.....Guy Whittall......my goodness.....Kenya with Oteinos...and all.....every team has good bowling attack ...even poor team India had Kumble

nha way better now. way deeper talent. teams have evolved.

but pakistan were strong back then. india were good only in subcontinent at the time.
aussies were good towards the end of 90s. saffers were a gun side but choked alot in final stages like india post 2015.

n.z were 50 50. england were garbage lol..

 

[Braveheart]

Take away the simulated crowd noises and 'Over Hyper' presenters and Team Support Staff from the current IPL, and you have an average product with batting only looking good due to the poor bowling and fielding.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Take away the simulated crowd noises and 'Over Hyper' presenters and Team Support Staff from the current IPL, and you have an average product with batting only looking good due to the poor bowling and fielding.

sure bro. sure, whatever floats your boat. PSL and big bash are the gold standard to follow. IPL has a lot to learn from them.

 

[Rana]

Very good score by SRH. Exposing PSL

 

[Mesozoic]

The desperation lmao. )

When there are high scores with some Indian bowlers going expensive, bump the IPL Vs PSL bowling thread...

When there's a low score with Indian bowlers doing well, bump this thread.

I mean do people really expect anyone to take them seriously with such silly rhetoric?

 

[Mesozoic]

Take away the simulated crowd noises and 'Over Hyper' presenters and Team Support Staff from the current IPL, and you have an average product with batting only looking good due to the poor bowling and fielding.

Yes IPL desperately needs Walton, Dunk, Akmal, Shehzad and TuC biscuit sponsors to become an "above average" league.

Until that PSL leads the way.

 

[naseem]

sure bro. sure, whatever floats your boat. PSL and big bash are the gold standard to follow. IPL has a lot to learn from them.

PSL is PSL....and BBL is BBL.......IPL is dear to u.....it ma6 not b same 4 everybody

 

[naseem]

Yes IPL desperately needs Walton, Dunk, Akmal, Shehzad and TuC biscuit sponsors to become an "above average" league.

Until that PSL leads the way.

Do u have an iotta of knowledge and shame.....

 

[naseem]

Saini again adding spice on a slow pitch.....ye kaun hai.....kaha kaha se aate hai ye

 

[Mesozoic]

Do u have an iotta of knowledge and shame.....

Irony.

 

[Mesozoic]

Saini again adding spice on a slow pitch.....ye kaun hai.....kaha kaha se aate hai ye

Natarajan and Sandeep - 31 for 3 in 8 overs

But but but muh saini one over ......