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IPL in UAE has badly exposed PSL in UAE

Amazing how a Crap Rauf and Hasnain bowled nobody is talking ...seems they have a liking for
musa......LOL........

Check your own posts on this thread. How you have been going Unadkat Unadkat every 2nd post as if he's the leading Indian bowler in this IPL. Now don't blame others when they pick on Musa.

BTW checked the stats, Rauf averaged 88 in the ODI series, Musa 50+. And a Zimbabwe bowler,. Muzarblabani, who bowls 125-130 kmph, topped the bowling charts.
 
Yuck......aap ko Siraj Mubarak ho.........Hume nahi chahiye

Hum ko BHI appakay trundlers or fodder players like trashauf nahi chaiye.

Bahut hogaya.....bholl wuuuuhuuuu huuuuu huuuuu.
.just kidding relax man.

Both sides have equal amount of scurbs.

Australia outside their main 3 are all scrubs too. Swepson, stanlake ROFL, some other duds like George etc. All utter fodder.
 
Exposed again. :)

200 breached....

Likes of Rabada, Nortje getting thrashed to all corners by Indian youngsta beauties.
 
So Rabada and Nortje weren't even spared and people here where picking on young Nagarkoti and Tyagi for getting hit against this quality of batting.
 
Indians desperate to prove something.

Farigh fast bowlers and now they want to use Rabada and Nortje who has a one off bad day as an excuse for Unadkat, Tiagi, Varun Aron, Desphande, Monu....
 
Only thing getting proven is the desperation some posters have to bring down young upcoming quicks like Nagarkoti, Tyagi for getting hit by the best.
 
Daniel Sams was the highest wicket taker in the BBL lol. The lad has been exposed infront of some genuine batting class here. The gulf in batting standards are huge.
 
Check your own posts on this thread. How you have been going Unadkat Unadkat every 2nd post as if he's the leading Indian bowler in this IPL. Now don't blame others when they pick on Musa.

BTW checked the stats, Rauf averaged 88 in the ODI series, Musa 50+. And a Zimbabwe bowler,. Muzarblabani, who bowls 125-130 kmph, topped the bowling charts.

Bcoz some joshila guy was defending his selection and overall performance..

RAuf was bowling with new ball for first time.....and now every child know it....but u don't know silly

Musa is probably not ready 4 international cricket....need 2 play first class...

But I m happy with what I saw of Rauf Hasnain Saheen ....good enough for long term prospect

Muzarbani is very deceptive if u just note his pace....although don't know him well and
can't tell wheather he will do well in future too..
But a decent prospect
 
Only thing getting proven is the desperation some posters have to bring down young upcoming quicks like Nagarkoti, Tyagi for getting hit by the best.

Desperation? Their own captains don’t rate them :)) :))
 
Hum ko BHI appakay trundlers or fodder players like trashauf nahi chaiye.

Bahut hogaya.....bholl wuuuuhuuuu huuuuu huuuuu.
.just kidding relax man.

Both sides have equal amount of scurbs.

Australia outside their main 3 are all scrubs too. Swepson, stanlake ROFL, some other duds like George etc. All utter fodder.

Should not be equal...if equal then 13 years of IPL HAS NOT yielded results
 
Indians desperate to prove something.

Farigh fast bowlers and now they want to use Rabada and Nortje who has a one off bad day as an excuse for Unadkat, Tiagi, Varun Aron, Desphande, Monu....

Farigj fast bowlers would not have let zimbanwe score 250 or let two zimbabwe batsmen score 100
 
Farigj fast bowlers would not have let zimbanwe score 250 or let two zimbabwe batsmen score 100

Ah I see. Tell that to Glen McGrath when he couldn’t stop Ashraful scoring that match winning 100 for Bangladesh in 2005
 
I think the person who I am addressing is smart enough to understand.

We all understand the pain, you are just trying way too hard now, you have probably watched more IPL games than me by now so I guess there is nothing much to discuss here to invalidate the OP
 
Exposed again. :)

200 breached....

Likes of Rabada, Nortje getting thrashed to all corners by Indian youngsta beauties.

I look at skills. I haven't seen proper skills from nagarkoti or Mavi. I am talking about execution of bouncer, outswing, inswing,slow ball, yorker etc.

Tyagi is good
 
I look at skills. I haven't seen proper skills from nagarkoti or Mavi. I am talking about execution of bouncer, outswing, inswing,slow ball, yorker etc.

Tyagi is good

This! I rate Tyagi (decently) as well. Nagarkoti and Mavi are okay.
 
This! I rate Tyagi (decently) as well. Nagarkoti and Mavi are okay.

I suppose it's hard to develop skills so early though without much game time? Nagarkoti and Mavi should first play first class cricket and then come back to IPL.

To me if you can't excel in first class format then you don't deserve to play IPl.
 
A full IPL in the UAE is the worst thing that could have happened to PSL.

We already knew that IPL was lightyears ahead of its cheap imitation in every department, but this edition has reinforced that idea in a very brutal fashion.

IPL has once again proved itself to be on par with the WT20 as the highest form of T20 cricket in the game today.
 
Bcoz some joshila guy was defending his selection and overall performance..

RAuf was bowling with new ball for first time.....and now every child know it....but u don't know silly

Musa is probably not ready 4 international cricket....need 2 play first class...

But I m happy with what I saw of Rauf Hasnain Saheen ....good enough for long term prospect

Muzarbani is very deceptive if u just note his pace....although don't know him well and
can't tell wheather he will do well in future too..
But a decent prospect

Excuses excuses and more excuses.

Rauf bowling with the new ball for the first time, Musa not ready. In PSL when it's high ER, it's the pitches.

Then why are you hyping them to the extent of calling bowlers like Cummins, Boult, Pattinson as not being good enough for PSL. I have no issues if you want to hype Pakistani youngsters, every fan should do so, but never do that by mocking others. But I guess that too much to expect.

Thankfully only 5 more days to go for IPL to end.
 
I have said this before and I will say this again - if the Pakistan national team joins IPL as a franchise, they will not make the play-offs.
 
I have said this before and I will say this again - if the Pakistan national team joins IPL as a franchise, they will not make the play-offs.

LOL that's going overboard. National teams of top 7-8 teams will win more matches vs best IPL franchises.

National teams will always have a bigger motivation compared to IPL or other T20 franchises. That one factor alone will drive them to do better.
 
I have said this before and I will say this again - if the Pakistan national team joins IPL as a franchise, they will not make the play-offs.

Not sure about that but I hope somewhere in the near future, after all the political madness ends, IPL expands into Pakistan and possibly even Bangladesh. Sort of like the NBA and the A-League expanding into Canada and New Zealand respectively.

It'll only get bigger and bigger with more teams, more games and a much longer duration than now so might as well go beyond the borders. :)
 
LOL that's going overboard. National teams of top 7-8 teams will win more matches vs best IPL franchises.

National teams will always have a bigger motivation compared to IPL or other T20 franchises. That one factor alone will drive them to do better.

Do you really think the current MI side will lose to pakistan or Sri Lanka or the current South Africa more often than not?

The days of "motivation" and "jazba" are long gone as the sport has become extremely professional now. Players will give pretty much their all irrespective of whether they're playing for nation or franchise.
 
Do you really think the current MI side will lose to pakistan or Sri Lanka or the current South Africa more often than not?

The days of "motivation" and "jazba" are long gone as the sport has become extremely professional now. Players will give pretty much their all irrespective of whether they're playing for nation or franchise.

I absolutely believe Pakistan or SL will win vs MI 3-2 in a 5 match series. As good as the IPL is, it's still a few notches below the intensity of international cricket.
 
LOL that's going overboard. National teams of top 7-8 teams will win more matches vs best IPL franchises.

National teams will always have a bigger motivation compared to IPL or other T20 franchises. That one factor alone will drive them to do better.

Can’t compare the other sides because their key players play in IPL franchises. However, when you compare the Pakistani team with IPL franchises man to man, Pakistan will be compare to the weakest IPL franchise(s).
 
BCCI should really look to have an "IPL champion vs Rest of India" game every year before the start of the season. A bit like the Irani cup game between Ranji champions and ROI. May be call it Super cup or something. Will be a brilliant game. :)

Imagine MI playing the Indian team without Rohit, Pandya, Bumrah.....

Rahul (WK)
Dhawan/Mayank
Kohli (C)
Gill
Rana
Dube
Jadeja
Bhuvi
Saini
Chahal
Shami
 
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BCCI should really look to have an "IPL champion vs Rest of India" game every year before the start of the season. A bit like the Irani cup game between Ranji champions and ROI. May be call it Super cup or something. Will be a brilliant game. :)

Imagine MI playing the Indian team without Rohit, Pandya, Bumrah.....

Rahul (WK)
Dhawan/Mayank
Kohli (C)
Gill
Rana
Dube
Jadeja
Bhuvi
Saini
Chahal
Shami

Any IPL team will need a 2-3 weeks window if not more to regroup whereas the ROI squad, with lot kore intra squad familiarity and natural camaraderie, will take no time to come together and perform. And in all likelihood, the ROI squad will win.

Remember how the mighty IPL teams used to struggle in the now defunct Champions League against much weaker domestic sides from SA or even WI . Took them a few seasons to figure out they needed to assemble the squad togethers weeks before the tournament to succeed.
 
I absolutely believe Pakistan or SL will win vs MI 3-2 in a 5 match series. As good as the IPL is, it's still a few notches below the intensity of international cricket.

Yea no. Ishan alone would blast Lanka and Pakistani bowlers. Then you add the rest. It's a bloodbath.

Bumrah
Boult
Pattinson
Chahar

Etc..would be very very hard for the Pakistani and Lankan batsmen.
 
BCCI should really look to have an "IPL champion vs Rest of India" game every year before the start of the season. A bit like the Irani cup game between Ranji champions and ROI. May be call it Super cup or something. Will be a brilliant game. :)

Imagine MI playing the Indian team without Rohit, Pandya, Bumrah.....

Rahul (WK)
Dhawan/Mayank
Kohli (C)
Gill
Rana
Dube
Jadeja
Bhuvi
Saini
Chahal
Shami

Rana, Dube?? Where are our real boys?

Sanju Samson
Shreyas Iyer
Manish Pandey
Rishabh Pant( although he has been terrible this year)
Rahul Tewatia

This Dube is a one six per match guy, doesn't have a 30+ score this season and Kohli fears bowling him a couple of overs.
 
Rana, Dube?? Where are our real boys?

Sanju Samson
Shreyas Iyer
Manish Pandey
Rishabh Pant( although he has been terrible this year)
Rahul Tewatia

This Dube is a one six per match guy, doesn't have a 30+ score this season and Kohli fears bowling him a couple of overs.


I was just being realistic with our team selection. We all want Gill to play at no.5 in Tests but they'll give us Rahane. Similarly we all want Samson, Tewatia etc but they'll give us Dube and Jadeja.
 
PSL bowlers never had to bowl to the world class batsman playing in the IPL they had to bowl to ronchis shahzads and the type..any bowler would be world class bowling to the below average batsmen in PSL :)

Chris Gayle? You've seen what he done in the IPL and you seen what he did in the PSL

*MIC DROP*
 
Harris Rauf , 4 overs 38 for 1 against mighty Zimbabwe. Surely all batsmen in IPL would fear him
 
Chris Gayle? You've seen what he done in the IPL and you seen what he did in the PSL

*MIC DROP*

Yeah he didnt care in PSL. He has performed similarly in international cricket when he actually cared. All the top PSL batsmen arent even average on world stage

Musa, Rauf have good PSL figures but are getting carted around by Zimbabwe batsmen
 
LMAO, what?

It was obvious from Gayle's body language, he didnt care in a single match in PSL. Gayle is someone who carries his emotions on his sleeves, its very easy to see when he is focused and passionate
 
It was obvious from Gayle's body language, he didnt care in a single match in PSL. Gayle is someone who carries his emotions on his sleeves, its very easy to see when he is focused and passionate
Your spewing some high quality nonsense there because Gayle has a dead stone face both in the field and when he bats.

It’s not hard to admit the local Pakistani bowlers bowled well too him.
 
Your spewing some high quality nonsense there because Gayle has a dead stone face both in the field and when he bats.

It’s not hard to admit the local Pakistani bowlers bowled well too him.

He is on par with quite a few who are at liberty with reality. They wont acknowledge anything good about Pakistan, but will feel seriously offended if we do not praise their players.

The guy pops up every time he sees a scorecard on Cricinfo where Musa, Rauf or Hasnain go for runs against Zimbabwe...but goes missing when they do well against the same opponent.
 
Gayle failing or not failing means nothing. A batsman can fail against Zimbabwe but dominate Australia in the next series. It doesn’t mean that Zimbabwe’s bowling is better.

You compare the rosters and it becomes glaringly obvious that there is no comparison between IPL and it’s cheap imitation PSL.
 
Watching this PSL game and Multan is batting at a run rate under 6. Looks like it will be another low scoring game. Mind you the bowling is not any exceptional either. So the issue was definitely not UAE pitches but quality of batting rather.
 
Watching this PSL game and Multan is batting at a run rate under 6. Looks like it will be another low scoring game. Mind you the bowling is not any exceptional either. So the issue was definitely not UAE pitches but quality of batting rather.

Were you expecting anything else from a batting line up like that?

Not one player is even close to int'l T20 standard except maybe khushdil who himself is meh from what I saw against zimb.

You bet posters here still want us to believe it's because of superior bowlers who come up trumps against Lyth, Bopara and youngsta beauty Afridi. :))
 
Arshad Iqbal >>> Jaidev Unadkat, one of the most expensive bowlers in IPL history
 
Man Pakistan is a haven for fast bowling. What a bunch of phenomenal talents.

They have serious potential.
PSL is definitely a notch above IPL in terms of fast bowling.

I would say Pakistan has the best depth of fast bowlers. This current lot can annilhilate anyone in home condtions.

Only a matter of time.before they explode.

Once bumrah and Shami retire, this current lot will be the best ever from Asia. Pakistan have 2 studs in Shaheen and naseem plus 4 good fast bowlers as backup. Phenomenal.
Now only a. Matter of time before they dominate away from home too.
 
Man Pakistan is a haven for fast bowling. What a bunch of phenomenal talents.

They have serious potential.
PSL is definitely a notch above IPL in terms of fast bowling.

I would say Pakistan has the best depth of fast bowlers. This current lot can annilhilate anyone in home condtions.

Only a matter of time.before they explode.

Once bumrah and Shami retire, this current lot will be the best ever from Asia. Pakistan have 2 studs in Shaheen and naseem plus 4 good fast bowlers as backup. Phenomenal.
Now only a. Matter of time before they dominate away from home too.

Hopefully they do it's been a long time
 
Watching this PSL game and Multan is batting at a run rate under 6. Looks like it will be another low scoring game. Mind you the bowling is not any exceptional either. So the issue was definitely not UAE pitches but quality of batting rather.

Md Amir Waqas Maqsood. Md Ilyas... Arshad Iqbal all will walk into any IPL team......buddy...
Hope u enjoyed super over too......
 
We got everything in 2 matches.....Babar class....Hafeez blinder.... Saheen Yorkers ..
some good hits....and brilliant catch and
Super over too....
Welcome Duplessis to PSL
 
Man Pakistan is a haven for fast bowling. What a bunch of phenomenal talents.

They have serious potential.
PSL is definitely a notch above IPL in terms of fast bowling.

I would say Pakistan has the best depth of fast bowlers. This current lot can annilhilate anyone in home condtions.

Only a matter of time.before they explode.

Once bumrah and Shami retire, this current lot will be the best ever from Asia. Pakistan have 2 studs in Shaheen and naseem plus 4 good fast bowlers as backup. Phenomenal.
Now only a. Matter of time before they dominate away from home too.

It's long overdue ..
Some scams or fitness ....selection issues halted it for too long
 
Not sure how this thread makes any sense now

PSL in Pakistan is a stellar event tbh. Hard cricket
 
NZL domestic teams with their reserves had humiliated PSL superstars just over a month ago.

Pak A was able to beat Aussie international side comprehensively by 153 runs in a 4 day warm up match in UAE during Aus tour of UAE in 2014-15 under Asad Shafiq’s captaincy. I am not sure it says much about Aussie international stars. An A team losing a a few T20s away is nowhere close to this.

NZ regional teams were also at their full strength except the test squad players (So I am not sure about the reserve part except maybe the last match against NZ xi where there were few) and NZ without a doubt has decent depth in currently especially if you consider their top regions.
 
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Pak A was able to beat Aussie international side comprehensively by 153 runs in a 4 day warm up match in UAE during Aus tour of UAE in 2014-15 under Asad Shafiq’s captaincy. I am not sure it says much about Aussie international stars. An A team losing a a few T20s away is nowhere close to this.

NZ regional teams were also at their full strength except the test squad players (So I am not sure about the reserve part except maybe the last match against NZ xi where there were few) and NZ without a doubt has decent depth in currently especially if you consider their top regions.

And don’t forget that very few of that A team had played PSL. Abdullah Shafique, Zeeshan Malik, Danish Aziz, Rohail Nazir, Usman Qadir have all played zero or little PSL cricket in their lives.

Haider Ali was the most experienced player in that A side other than Wahab Riaz who was cannon fodder on those 50m grounds.

In fact almost none of those guys were PSL stars. The people who had played PSL were Hussain Talat and Amad Butt who were ok in PSL.
 
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The PSL is in Pakistan. Not in the UAE so don't get why this thread is being bumped. The PSL has been good this year but its not as good as the IPL. The IPL in the UAE was better than all the PSL seasons in UAE. I watched nearly every ball of the IPL and a majority of the PSL in the UAE.
 
Lol, waiting for the Mamoon post, thread on how the IPL in India has exposed the PSL in Pakistan. I wish the veteran host Mr Tariq Aziz was alive to announce "Yeh lijiye, yeh waves refrigerator aap ka"
 
The PSL is in Pakistan. Not in the UAE so don't get why this thread is being bumped. The PSL has been good this year but its not as good as the IPL. The IPL in the UAE was better than all the PSL seasons in UAE. I watched nearly every ball of the IPL and a majority of the PSL in the UAE.

Each their own. I didn't watch the IPL because of the abscence of the Pakistani players from the format. The only time in my life i watched the IPL religiously was in 2008 when Pakistani players were playing in the league.

IPL in the UAE was better than all the PSL seasons in the UAE. No **** sherlock, its like comparing a first world league with all the elite players bought out with $1-3 million paychecks with a third world league. IPL in the UAE will smash the Natwest League, CPL, Big Bash, BPL in the UAE as well.

What is the point of stating the obvious that everyone else doesn't know?
 
The PSL is in Pakistan. Not in the UAE so don't get why this thread is being bumped. The PSL has been good this year but its not as good as the IPL. The IPL in the UAE was better than all the PSL seasons in UAE. I watched nearly every ball of the IPL and a majority of the PSL in the UAE.

From OP:

“However, IPL in UAE has showed that the problem is more with the lack of quality players in PSL rather than the nature of pitches. “

“Bear in mind that they playing in empty stadiums as well. The entertainment factor has still been top notch.”

“We need to address the elephant in the room - PSL’s standard of batting is shockingly poor and you cannot have a high quality T20 league without high quality batsmen.”


You still have an issue with this thread being bumped?
 
Scores of 190+ being chased down every time.

Home grown fast bowlers bowling 150kmh, not foreign imports.

Mujeeb and Rashid Khan, two regular IPL bowlers struggling to make an impact on the league with their bowling.

Chris Gayle who was a failure in the UAE PSL shows that he is as good as he has been in The IPL when he plays in Pakistan.
 
99% of the best contemporary players in the world do not play in PSL because it is beneath them and because PSL franchises cannot afford them.

A low-budget league like PSL cannot offer high quality. The difference between the UAE legs of IPL and PSL really illustrated the embarrassing gulf between the two leagues.

The gulf was always there because PSL is a low budget, cheap imitation of IPL, but the UAE leg highlighted how enormous the gap really was.

Moving forward, it would be in the best interests of our fans to enjoy PSL in isolation and not disappoint themselves by comparing it to IPL, which is the highest form of T20 cricket in the world.

If we are to establish a comparison, we should compare PSL to its competitors like BPL, CPL, BBL, LPL etc.

PSL and IPL are not competitors. PSL will never catch up with IPL just like Pakistan cricket will never catch up with Indian cricket.

If we want to live in denial as usual, it is our choice.
 
Scores of 190+ being chased down every time.

Home grown fast bowlers bowling 150kmh, not foreign imports.

Mujeeb and Rashid Khan, two regular IPL bowlers struggling to make an impact on the league with their bowling.

Chris Gayle who was a failure in the UAE PSL shows that he is as good as he has been in The IPL when he plays in Pakistan.

When Gayle failed in PSL last time, some folks here were like, Gayle big timer in IPL can't do diddly squat in PSL! Therefore PSL superior!!

What's the argument now?
 
From OP:

“However, IPL in UAE has showed that the problem is more with the lack of quality players in PSL rather than the nature of pitches. “

“Bear in mind that they playing in empty stadiums as well. The entertainment factor has still been top notch.”

“We need to address the elephant in the room - PSL’s standard of batting is shockingly poor and you cannot have a high quality T20 league without high quality batsmen.”


You still have an issue with this thread being bumped?

Who are the quality batters in PSL?
 
PSL is demonstrating a very high caliber of competitive games. It is helping to develop indigenous talent. The fast bowling talent is appreciable, with many bowlers consistently bowling at faster than 140 km/h and several over 145 km/h. Afridi, Amir, Rauf, Arshad Iqbal, Dahani , Riaz being particularly good . The batting of Zaman, Sharjeel, Hafeez, Rizwan, Haider Ali, Azam Khan has been impressive. The Karachi-Lahore game yesterday was another example of the quality of the PSL Usman Qadir and Zahid Mahmood have improved as spinners. The PSL will be instrumental in forging a top team for the T20 World Cup. Pakistan has been dominant as a T20 team and was ranked #1 for at least a couple of years. As the new team evolves, it will recapture it's standing as the top team. Do not be despondent! With PSL being played entirely in Pakistan, it highlights the immense potential and talent that we are fortunate to have and illustrates the security, culture, tradition and hospitality of a great people. We should all rejoice in this .
 
Each their own. I didn't watch the IPL because of the abscence of the Pakistani players from the format. The only time in my life i watched the IPL religiously was in 2008 when Pakistani players were playing in the league.

IPL in the UAE was better than all the PSL seasons in the UAE. No **** sherlock, its like comparing a first world league with all the elite players bought out with $1-3 million paychecks with a third world league. IPL in the UAE will smash the Natwest League, CPL, Big Bash, BPL in the UAE as well.

What is the point of stating the obvious that everyone else doesn't know?

So according to you there is no point in me saying the IPL is better than the PSL. So what's the point in bumping this thread when the tournament isn't even in the UAE this year lol?

If it's so obvious why does this thread need to be bumped?
 
According to OP’s argument

IPL in Pakistan would mean that the teams will score 350 in 20 overs and these scores will be chased. That is how ridiculous the OP is.
 
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