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Joe Root is the ideal replacement for smith

Both are almost same type of players
 
I was thinking about this some days ago and now I just came to PP to create this thread but PP is so big that there is always people here who have thought about same thing as yourself.
 
Protea Fan said:
Joe Root is the ideal replacement for smith

Both are almost same type of players
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Edit: sorry I thought you compared Ronchi and Root, realize now that you meant Smith and Root. Agree on that.

Lols, both are not same sort of players. Root is a better version of Babar Azam, he likes to build his innings, Ronchi is an explosive batsman who can take apart bowlers in no time.
 
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Someone might take a punt on Ronchi but don't think he will be given more than 1 or 2 chances to show he can hack it, Root looks the obvious choice.
 
Root in, Smith out. RR would be happy to take it.

Dont know who gonna replace Warner though? He was a monster in IPL 2016.
 
There are quite a few good names:

Heinrich Klassen (Was he in the auction list ?)
Kusal Perera
Hashim Amla (Shined in IPL 2017 for KXIP)
Luke Ronchi (PSL player of the tournament)
Samuel Badree / Ish Sodhi (RR may want to add a spinner)
 
Sami92 said:
There are quite a few good names:

Heinrich Klassen (Was he in the auction list ?)
Kusal Perera
Hashim Amla (Shined in IPL 2017 for KXIP)
Luke Ronchi (PSL player of the tournament)
Samuel Badree / Ish Sodhi (RR may want to add a spinner)
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Amla, ronchi and root have best chance to replace the cheaters.

RR has good domestic spinners plus an overseas rookie afghan spinner.
 
JattMaula said:
Amla, ronchi and root have best chance to replace the cheaters.

RR has good domestic spinners plus an overseas rookie afghan spinner.
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Krishnappa, Ankit & Gopal - too inexperienced ? RCB has Sundar, Chahal & M Ashwin.

Any idea how good is Zahir Khan - the rookie Afghan spinner ?
 
Sami92 said:
Krishnappa, Ankit & Gopal - too inexperienced ? RCB has Sundar, Chahal & M Ashwin.

Any idea how good is Zahir Khan - the rookie Afghan spinner ?
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Gopal and K Goutham are in good form. And RR had paid kings ransom for them. Gotta use them. Plus both are more than handy bats. And RR loves those pseudo all-rounders.

Zaheer khan is relatively unknown. He has good variations apparently but can't say much right now. Afghanistan do have good record of producing intelligent spinners.
 
Ronchi is hitting it so well since his retirement, SRH and RR would be foolish not to rope him in
 
Sami92 said:
There are quite a few good names:

Heinrich Klassen (Was he in the auction list ?)
Kusal Perera
Hashim Amla (Shined in IPL 2017 for KXIP)
Luke Ronchi (PSL player of the tournament)
Samuel Badree / Ish Sodhi (RR may want to add a spinner)
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Guptill
 
Ronchi won’t do anything in IPL, no 50 yard boundaries in IPL and bowlers like Starc, Boult, Bumrah, etc are not easy to score runs of.
 
If Ronchi is picked my a I P L team, then it means they recognize performances in PSL, otherwise they don’t and they may have not seen PSL games.
 
Unlikely. Amla, Guptill and Shaun Marsh have the best chance. Most likely Amla as Smith's replacement for Rajasthan Royals and Guptill / Marsh to SRH.
 
According to bbc srilanka reporter SRH already in talks with kushal parera.
 
Well done to India on taking a stand, it might have been tempting to overlook the cheating, but they did the right thing by taking a lead and the game will be better for it. Personally I have always liked Ronchi, great player to watch, would make any T20 more exciting to watch.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Well done to India on taking a stand, it might have been tempting to overlook the cheating, but they did the right thing by taking a lead and the game will be better for it. Personally I have always liked Ronchi, great player to watch, would make any T20 more exciting to watch.
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I think they are banned for 1 year from all forms of cricket. I dont know if they were even elligble to play after the ban.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Well done to India on taking a stand, it might have been tempting to overlook the cheating, but they did the right thing by taking a lead and the game will be better for it. Personally I have always liked Ronchi, great player to watch, would make any T20 more exciting to watch.
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Between him and Root, I would opt for the latter. The Englishman although a proven choker still commands respect on the pitch.
 
lonex said:
I think they are banned for 1 year from all forms of cricket. I dont know if they were even elligble to play after the ban.
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Don't think they were banned from playing league cricket. That was left to individual boards' discretion.
CA couldn't stop them from earning their livelihood.
 
introvert said:
According to bbc srilanka reporter SRH already in talks with kushal parera.
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Well, that's a BIG news ! Tom Moody always knows who to pick. Wish Royals had picked him up. I loved when he played for the Royals in 2013.
 
A retired player, that too of Ronchi's quality would never find an IPL team. This could be an opportunity for Root and I hope he makes it somehow.
 
Williamson will be the captain of SRH and will lobby hard for his fellow kiwi Ronchi
 
Smith most likely would be replaced by Root (Given he accepts the offer)
Warner could be replaced by K Perera (as per reports). Id have replaced Warner with either Amla or Bairstow or S Marsh. These players are flexible and can play either anchoring or attacking.


I hope IPL dont pick Ronchi, personally nothing against him but i really dont want 36+ YO retired player making a comeback in IPL. I still cringe over Azhar Mehmood making an IPL appearance almost at 40 :facepalm: We should continue to scout young and upcoming players from India and around the world (except one country for obvious reason)
 
rhony said:
Williamson will be the captain of SRH and will lobby hard for his fellow kiwi Ronchi
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I highly doubt Williamson would lobby for someone who is retired from Intl team years ago. Secondly, if SRH appoints Williamson as captain, he wouldnt have enough time to lobby for Ronchi. Maybe SRH might appoint Williamson or anyone else as a replacement captain and new signing at the same presser. Imo, scout team and a coach have more influence than a captain in IPL.
 
No I don't think he will be selected . The franchises usually like backing Indian keepers and Indian batsmen. Ronchi would take 2 of those slots. Don't see him being selected.

Guptill ,Hales,Root,and Amla have a batter chance of being selected.
 
CanadianG00se said:
RR most likely should pursue Root, very similar player to Smith. Amla isnt bad choice either but his form of late is kinda on and off.
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Amla is actually quite hard done by not getting sold in the first place after his sensational season with KXIP last year.
 
Sami92 said:
Amla is actually quite hard done by not getting sold in the first place after his sensational season with KXIP last year.
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Most franchises select player based on two factors
1) Cricketing skills, and
2) Marketability.

Amla sadly isnt as Marketable as Warner, Smith, Ab, or Pollard. He is no doubt genius with the bat but he lacks the aura of those players mentioned. Remember for franchises its a business and they want to build a brand.
 
Send1983 said:
Ronchi won’t do anything in IPL, no 50 yard boundaries in IPL and bowlers like Starc, Boult, Bumrah, etc are not easy to score runs of.
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and bowlers like amir, Hasan?

No offence but PSLs bowling standards will always be better considering the pitches and the fact that Pakistani domestic bowlers are better due to the bowling culture here, IPL will always have better batting to see, one thing lacking in PSL is more international stars however.
 
CricFan2012 said:
and bowlers like amir, Hasan?

No offence but PSLs bowling standards will always be better considering the pitches and the fact that Pakistani domestic bowlers are better due to the bowling culture here, IPL will always have better batting to see, one thing lacking in PSL is more international stars however.
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Thats not true. IPL may not have tons of local bowling talent, however they will be filled by Intl stars. Each team have at least one or two quality seamers plus quality local spinners.

Starc
Boult
Tye
Fizz
Rabada
Ngidi
BK
Bumrah

Spinners
Chahal
Kuldeep
R Chahar
Akila
W Sundar
I may have miss some names here and there, but the reason why people look down upon IPL bowling is due to past two season a local bowler have outshine star bowlers.
Its similar to how Akmals dominated first couple season of PSL, but no one doubted PSL's batting culture.
 
CricFan2012 said:
and bowlers like amir, Hasan?

No offence but PSLs bowling standards will always be better considering the pitches and the fact that Pakistani domestic bowlers are better due to the bowling culture here, IPL will always have better batting to see, one thing lacking in PSL is more international stars however.
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Bowling standards better how? What's the metric that makes you say someone is better? Is that pace? Because no one has taken bucket load of wickets in PSL against average batsmen. The generalization based on 'bowling culture' when I see mediocre batsmen pummelling supposedly great bowlers on supposedly tough pitches is just ridiculous.
 
CanadianG00se said:
Smith most likely would be replaced by Root (Given he accepts the offer)
Warner could be replaced by K Perera (as per reports). Id have replaced Warner with either Amla or Bairstow or S Marsh. These players are flexible and can play either anchoring or attacking.


I hope IPL dont pick Ronchi, personally nothing against him but i really dont want 36+ YO retired player making a comeback in IPL. I still cringe over Azhar Mehmood making an IPL appearance almost at 40 :facepalm: We should continue to scout young and upcoming players from India and around the world (except one country for obvious reason)
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Amla isn't an impact player. He is similar to Williamson. Perera or even Kushal Mendis with the form he is in could be better alternatives
 
CricFan2012 said:
and bowlers like amir, Hasan?

No offence but PSLs bowling standards will always be better considering the pitches and the fact that Pakistani domestic bowlers are better due to the bowling culture here, IPL will always have better batting to see, one thing lacking in PSL is more international stars however.
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you might be right in saying Indian domestic bowlers were bad 5 yrs ago, that too fast bowler. but now that has changed a lot. difference is very negligible. India has as many good fast bowlers like Pakistan has in their domestic. Don't respond with Unatkad and Siraj . these two are horrible fast bowlers. I can at least understand on Unatkad as he has variation and performed reasonably well in one of the IPLs but this Siraj guy is one of the worst bowlers I have ever seen. still don't understand the reason why he was picked by our selectors.

anyway overall that does not mean we don't have good fast bowlers. Bumrah, Bhuvi, Umesh, Shami, Mavi, Nagarkoti, Kaleel, etc are some of the good bowlers on top of that we have spinners like Ashwin, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Chahal, Washington, Bhajji, etc., are good spinners or as good as the spinners you have in your domestic. Add those overseas fast bowlers like Starc, Boult, Cummins, Rabada, Morkel, Ngidi, etc., Tahir, Narine,etc. IPL don't have good bowling talent? even with 8 teams, IPL has bowling as good as your PSL with 6 teams, at least on paper.
 
rhony said:
Amla isn't an impact player. He is similar to Williamson. Perera or even Kushal Mendis with the form he is in could be better alternatives
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Amla have proven track record from last season, but I agree he lacks the impact Ab or Kohli have on the game. But Amla is very reliable which is what SRH would be looking for. Remember Warner was basically run machine for SRH which resulted in their success in 2016. K Perera/Mendis aren't reliable and their recent innings against Indian C/ BD/ Zim doesnt say much.
 
CanadianG00se said:
Thats not true. IPL may not have tons of local bowling talent, however they will be filled by Intl stars. Each team have at least one or two quality seamers plus quality local spinners.

Starc
Boult
Tye
Fizz
Rabada
Ngidi
BK
Bumrah

Spinners
Chahal
Kuldeep
R Chahar
Akila
W Sundar
I may have miss some names here and there, but the reason why people look down upon IPL bowling is due to past two season a local bowler have outshine star bowlers.
Its similar to how Akmals dominated first couple season of PSL, but no one doubted PSL's batting culture.
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2 out of 5 quality bowlers doesnt make the bowling attack worldclass. In PSL each team has atleast 4/5 bowlers that are premier.
 
daytrader said:
2 out of 5 quality bowlers doesnt make the bowling attack worldclass. In PSL each team has atleast 4/5 bowlers that are premier.
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Premier delusion. That's what it is. Even the real premier bowlers like Amir, Hasan had average tournament. Shenwari and Rahat were smashed around by mediocre batsmen. Who else is there?
 
daytrader said:
2 out of 5 quality bowlers doesnt make the bowling attack worldclass. In PSL each team has atleast 4/5 bowlers that are premier.
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Who are those 4 out of 5? PleAse don’t tell me Sameen Gul, Irfan jr, Mir, etc are better than Indian bowlers.
 
CricFan2012 said:
and bowlers like amir, Hasan?

No offence but PSLs bowling standards will always be better considering the pitches and the fact that Pakistani domestic bowlers are better due to the bowling culture here, IPL will always have better batting to see, one thing lacking in PSL is more international stars however.
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Amir Hasan and who else?Shadab?Shaheen Afridi?

Starc Cummins Rabada Bumrah Shami Stokes Woakes Fizz Tahir Rashid Khan Chahal Kuldeep Jofra Archer Nagarkoti Boult Stanlake Ngidi Johnson Mark Wood Southee

You have better bowler in your Bowling Culture than these international bowlers?
 
daytrader said:
2 out of 5 quality bowlers doesnt make the bowling attack worldclass. In PSL each team has atleast 4/5 bowlers that are premier.
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4/5? Delusion in your post have no boundaries. I mean are you saying that so called 4/5 premier bowlers most of them have never played Intl cricket is somewhat better than current world class bowlers like Starc, Rabada, Stanlake, Boult, Rashid, Tahir, Bumrah?

Delusion Deluison Delusion
 
HitWicket said:
Amlas just signed a county contract which I'd expect they'd be particularly reluctant to let him out of.
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Three players need to be replaced in IPL.

Santner
Warner
Smith

Marsh Amla Perera Root Guptill. These may be likely replacement. Amla may not be picked. I hope he is. He will be handsomely compensated.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Three players need to be replaced in IPL.

Santner
Warner
Smith

Marsh Amla Perera Root Guptill. These may be likely replacement. Amla may not be picked. I hope he is. He will be handsomely compensated.
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Any news on Santner replacement?
 
introvert said:
No decision taken by CSK yet.
also Santner was bought at 50 lakh base price so Chennai can't buy player who's base price is more then that.
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Sorry I made mistake here, the replacement rule is you cant buy player who's base price is higher than auction sold price of the player you want to replace.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Three players need to be replaced in IPL.

Santner
Warner
Smith

Marsh Amla Perera Root Guptill. These may be likely replacement. Amla may not be picked. I hope he is. He will be handsomely compensated.
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IPL is now a week away and some of the players must be arriving in India already. Do you have clue who would be potential replacement?
SRH issued a statement that they have appointed Williamson as stand in captain, but no sign of replacement yet.
 
CanadianG00se said:
4/5? Delusion in your post have no boundaries. I mean are you saying that so called 4/5 premier bowlers most of them have never played Intl cricket is somewhat better than current world class bowlers like Starc, Rabada, Stanlake, Boult, Rashid, Tahir, Bumrah?

Delusion Deluison Delusion
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Divide up the names of international bowlers you mentioned in your previous post amongst 8 teams. You'll get 2 bowlers per team and those 2 will be the performers. Add a local spinner to the mix and u get 3/5 performers. The local fast bowlers will get smashed as usual. Compare this to any PSL team and you'll see that the weak link are mostly the 5th bowling options.
 
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CanadianG00se said:
4/5? Delusion in your post have no boundaries. I mean are you saying that so called 4/5 premier bowlers most of them have never played Intl cricket is somewhat better than current world class bowlers like Starc, Rabada, Stanlake, Boult, Rashid, Tahir, Bumrah?

Delusion Deluison Delusion
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Divide up the names of international bowlers you mentioned in your previous post amongst 8 teams. You'll get 2 bowlers per team and those 2 will be the performers. Add a local spinner to the mix and u get 3/5 performers. The local fast bowlers will get smashed as usual. Compare this to any PSL team and you'll see that the weak link are mostly the 5th bowling options.
 
babajee said:
We don’t have anyone as good as Praveen Kumar sorry.
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Dude at least research a bit before posting.

Here you are just showing the lack of knowledge about ipl while trying to criticize it. That takes away gravity from any word you write.
 
daytrader said:
2 out of 5 quality bowlers doesnt make the bowling attack worldclass. In PSL each team has atleast 4/5 bowlers that are premier.
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Premier in context to what?

I can even say Uganda has 5 premier bowlers however what criteria I will chose in order to state that is a different subject altogether.
 
daytrader said:
Divide up the names of international bowlers you mentioned in your previous post amongst 8 teams. You'll get 2 bowlers per team and those 2 will be the performers. Add a local spinner to the mix and u get 3/5 performers. The local fast bowlers will get smashed as usual. Compare this to any PSL team and you'll see that the weak link are mostly the 5th bowling options.
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You havent mentioned the names of so called World class bowlers of PSL. 4 or 5 in each team LOL
 
CanadianG00se said:
You havent mentioned the names of so called World class bowlers of PSL. 4 or 5 in each team LOL
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I didn't say world class bowlers I said world class bowling attack... we are comparing team bowling attacks not individuals. There's a difference which you are not comprehending. You can 'LOL' all you want but you're just showing that you don't have an understanding of what's being discussed.
 
CanadianG00se said:
Id quit watching IPL if a 36 YO makes an IPL comeback. Im glad they went for young Klassen who is class player in whatever short period we saw him against us.
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Mitch Johnson says hi, he's 36 and played the final last year. Are you not watching this year?
 
daytrader said:
Mitch Johnson says hi, he's 36 and played the final last year. Are you not watching this year?
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He isnt making a comeback, he have been part of IPL. He bowled a final over of last years final and won us the title. I dont know when was last time Ronchi played IPL, which is why Im against his comeback. I actually wouldnt want Johnson as well, he could be a mentor like Shane Bond and let youngsters play.
 
daytrader said:
I didn't say world class bowlers I said world class bowling attack... we are comparing team bowling attacks not individuals. There's a difference which you are not comprehending. You can 'LOL' all you want but you're just showing that you don't have an understanding of what's being discussed.
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You said each PSL team have 4 or 5 priemer bowlers in each PSL team, so im asking who all are they.

Not only me anyone who reads your claim will LOL. Even PSL teams at best have 2 or max 3 bowlers of Intl standard. Rest are either TTF or yet to make an intl debut.
 
daytrader said:
Mitch Johnson says hi, he's 36 and played the final last year. Are you not watching this year?
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Did you watch las5 few season. He hardly got a chance to play in th3 eleven. This year I am sure he will mostly warm the bench.
 
CanadianG00se said:
Id quit watching IPL if a 36 YO makes an IPL comeback. Im glad they went for young Klassen who is class player in whatever short period we saw him against us.
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Like I mentioned other day, if Rochi is not replacing SMith or Warner, then IPL doesnt recognize PSL performances and also they don’t follow PSL.
 
Rajasthan Royals seek Klaasen as Smith replacement

SRH may opt for Kusal Perera

So, both franchises not interested in Ronchi. I guess both franchises have enough openers int heir squad.
 
Oligochaetes said:
Rajasthan Royals seek Klaasen as Smith replacement

SRH may opt for Kusal Perera

So, both franchises not interested in Ronchi. I guess both franchises have enough openers int heir squad.
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Kusal perara have rejected the offer to play ipl he said he want to play first class so he can make a test comeback for SL
 
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