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Iran and US agree to conditional two-week ceasefire and opening of Hormuz strait [Update@ Post 7738]

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emranabbas said:
Let's finally settle this @Devadwal 🤣🤣

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Amazing how Iran is dictating the terms here.

First they said the attacks on Lebanon have to stop before new talks, and now there is 10 days ceasefire there.

Iran’s next condition is to have have all their assets unfreezed before the talks can begin. We are talking about around $120 billions. If Trumps agrees to that, that will be such a defeat for him and he will have to.

Finally, Trump is saying Iran agreed to not to have nuclear weapons, lol, Iran has always said they are not looking for nukes either. So what is Trump bragging about?

Iran is by far the bravest county in the World and they have very smart leaders, many of them with PHD degrees. So they are just playing with the US. Hopefully we will get peace now.
 
emranabbas said:
Let's finally settle this @Devadwal 🤣🤣

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It's common knowledge, I've even seen prominent white ethno-nationalists mocking Indians with "saar!" on social media channels. That's why it seems weird that @Devadwal keeps using it in attempts to troll Pakistanis. It must really burn him up if that saar lives rent free in his head. :apology
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Oil Import going to Zero does nt Matter

New Delhi Commited with US that it would stop buying Russian oil to secure deal and then war Followed. Once war is over , Dnt forget to renew your license from Trump. Be good actors

www.reuters.com

Indian refiners avoid Russian oil in push for US trade deal

India's intake of Russian oil fell to its lowest level in two years in December.
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So you agree so far India is doing what is good for India and merely paying lip service to big egos.. and no one is being a slave unlike Asif Munir.. Nobel prize hand over oil and rare earth minerals sit down stand up chowkidaari and daalali... India is simply choosing what is best economically. Lil less well but export to us
 
straighttalk said:
So you agree so far India is doing what is good for India and merely paying lip service to big egos.. and no one is being a slave unlike Asif Munir.. Nobel prize hand over oil and rare earth minerals sit down stand up chowkidaari and daalali... India is simply choosing what is best economically. Lil less well but export to us
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Its about optics
Trump Threatned with 50% Tarrif. India flinched and agreed to Trade deal that Trump wrote and his House announced which your Modi could nt deny. Its not lip service. Its called capitulation for a country that pretends to be strategically autonomous. When US press Sec openly calls India Good actors like a Pat on Dog's fur when it listens to owner India does nt look for Alliances rather Favorable Transactions. Cynical way to Run a country thats why no one takes you seriois anymore. You go and Make a $ in chaos of the world. it suits you
 
Trump again fooled muslim countries by announcing ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon.... when Israel on killing spree at that why Trump not announced ceasefire? He purposely allowed after Israel killed over 2500 lebanonese and total destruction of Lebanon by Israel attack
 
straighttalk said:
So you agree so far India is doing what is good for India and merely paying lip service to big egos.. and no one is being a slave unlike Asif Munir.. Nobel prize hand over oil and rare earth minerals sit down stand up chowkidaari and daalali... India is simply choosing what is best economically. Lil less well but export to us
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Which part of Trump granting India permission to purchase Russian oil did you not understand? :facepalm :inti
 
emranabbas said:
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Yes it says sanctions are there and we can't get it at discount but oil will still be purchased
Wasim Ghulam said:
Its about optics
Trump Threatned with 50% Tarrif. India flinched and agreed to Trade deal that Trump wrote and his House announced which your Modi could nt deny. Its not lip service. Its called capitulation for a country that pretends to be strategically autonomous. When US press Sec openly calls India Good actors like a Pat on Dog's fur when it listens to owner India does nt look for Alliances rather Favorable Transactions. Cynical way to Run a country thats why no one takes you seriois anymore. You go and Make a $ in chaos of the world. it suits you
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Ok now that we have gone from assertion that India is doing what it is told to optics...we can discuss it because that is a valid point.

Strategic autonomy means doing what is best for India...in choosing oil from Russia or safeguarding trade with USA. India didn't accept Trump's 50 percent tarrifs..it negotiated and got a deal with compromises. What do you want India to do...stop all trade USA and screw our economy. You protect yourself from mad bull in china shop as much as you can and that's what India did. Did you see moscow blaming India..instead it praised India. Reducing is not same as stopping...try to understand that ..it's a give and take to allow the bull to claim victory to his idiot electorate and go on with business quietly.
 
straighttalk said:
Yes it says sanctions are there and we can't get it at discount but oil will still be purchased

Ok now that we have gone from assertion that India is doing what it is told to optics...we can discuss it because that is a valid point.

Strategic autonomy means doing what is best for India...in choosing oil from Russia or safeguarding trade with USA. India didn't accept Trump's 50 percent tarrifs..it negotiated and got a deal with compromises. What do you want India to do...stop all trade USA and screw our economy. You protect yourself from mad bull in china shop as much as you can and that's what India did. Did you see moscow blaming India..instead it praised India. Reducing is not same as stopping...try to understand that ..it's a give and take to allow the bull to claim victory to his idiot electorate and go on with business quietly.
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Like i Said , India looks for favorable Transactions not Geo Political Alliances . As you have seen in the current conflict, when the world is looking for a principled stance to stop a war, a transactional state is busy looking for a "discount" on fuel.
 
straighttalk said:
Ok now that we have gone from assertion that India is doing what it is told to optics
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if you did nt know Geo Politics is about Optics so let me give you a lesson . Its all about optics and what is percieved than what actually transpires

You are quietly buying Russian oil while giving Supposed LiP service to massage Ego of Trump , Pak is doing the same thing. Serving its own interests placing itself in middle of Global conflict that disrupts world economy. Its a vaccum left by Transactional states filled by Opprtunity given to Pak while you can blame Pak is suckig up to Trump , Pak elevates its global Stature.
 
straighttalk said:
Which part of the reality don't you get.

What USA says does not matter.
India traded oil with Russia
India is still going on trading oil with Russia
So which part of permission are you talking about
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Ignore this 🤡. India is never Stop buying Russian oil despite USA senction. When USA slapped 50% tariff on India , india increase the oil purchase from Russia. Machanism might be different for purchase .

:klopp :kp
 
BouncerGuy said:
you trying to generalize every muslim is even more pathetic.... First prove that the arms were there in the school used by kids???
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Arm were found in a school. That's was the my point. Hello kids , that part was for people's like you who crying whenever any school/ collages Target in a strike.

:klopp :ko
 
Devadwal said:
Ignore this 🤡. India is never Stop buying Russian oil despite USA senction. When USA slapped 50% tariff on India , india increase the oil purchase from Russia. Machanism might be different for purchase .

:klopp :kp
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This is something they genuinely ignore out of pure jealously. They expected India to fall down and become gulaam state of USA, like Pakistan is, when Trump applied 50%tariff. The fact that India continued to buy Russian oil is something they couldnt digest. I still remember intial bhangra in that tariff thread...some even dreaming of CIA doing Bangladeshi style regime change in India. Absolute clowns

:klopp :kp
 
BouncerGuy said:
Share some genuine source instead of phaaderland sources... IDF
LOL


crazy
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We are not talking after Pakistan fatherland USA. ..this is IDF official statement but Islamist are still crying about fake propaganda.

Kud itna Fake Propaganda spread karte hai ki unko real news fake lagti hai.

:klopp :kp
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I don't think even israelis are sharing this type of stuff. It could literally be anywhere, even some gym hall in India.
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Nah...its posted in Times of Israel as well

Over 130 Hezbollah weapons found in southern Lebanon school, IDF says | The Times of Israel https://share.google/m27CH45gz0NvUkXuI

You have an unhealthy obsession with India and uncanny knack of dragging us everywhere.

:kp
 
Phaaderland said so, poeple satrted doing bhangra about arms in school

who is using them??? Kids???

pathetic propganda
 
IMMY69 said:
You are literally quoting a terrorist outfit.

Birds of a feather....

Chump
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I was responding to Rishwat who said this may not be reported by Israel themselves but done by Indians (using fake account). So I just posted the link from Times of Israel. You are free to not believe that news though and I will not judge you. My point was not proving this news being true or not but protecting image of Bharat against the charge labelled by my good friend Rishwat.

:kp
 
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Iran on Friday declared the Strait of Hormuz completely open to commercial traffic during the ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon.

"In line with the ceasefire in Lebanon, the passage for all commercial vessels through Strait of Hormuz is declared completely open for the remaining period of ceasefire," Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi said in a social media post. However, vessels must transit through a "coordinated route" announced by Iran's maritime authorities, Araghchi said.

Oil prices plunged more than 11% after the announcement.

Israel and Lebanon agreed Thursday to a 10-day ceasefire starting at 5 p.m. ET that evening. Israel's military campaign in Lebanon against the militant group Hezbollah, who are close allies of Iran, has been a sticking point in negotiations between Washington and Tehran.

Trump agreed to a two-week ceasefire on April 7 in exchange for Iran completely opening the strait. But Iran's parliamentary speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf accused the U.S. of violating the agreement by allowing Israel to continue its campaign in Lebanon.

The strait has remained almost completely during the U.S.-Iran ceasefire as the two countries disputed the terms of the agreement. Just a few commercial vessels are transiting the waterway daily

www.cnbc.com

Iran declares Strait of Hormuz completely open to commercial traffic during Israel-Lebanon ceasefire

www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
Devadwal said:
Everything which exposed the Muslim is fake for Pakistan Fake Propaganda ,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'm not surprised


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maybe your just a dumb idiot.

if you make a claim, you must prove it with evidence from neutral sources. If you only use sources from your own side, then you are not proving anything, you are only repeating the propaganda what your side says.

this is why no one takes you serious as you come across as some uneducated champu guy from a remote village in india.



 
emranabbas said:
maybe your just a dumb idiot.

if you make a claim, you must prove it with evidence from neutral sources. If you only use sources from your own side, then you are not proving anything, you are only repeating the propaganda what your side says.

this is why no one takes you serious as you come across as some uneducated champu guy from a remote village in india.
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In delulu Land this guy lives

He thinks he does something by posting stupidity here.
 
emranabbas said:
this is like a cleaning job india doing after someone has had a dump 🤣 🤣
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This thread has nothing to do with India. Unfortunately, you are taking your frustration of not able to beat @Devadwal in these debates with silly jibes. Pls stick to the topic. Thank you for your attention in this matter
 
Rajdeep said:
This thread has nothing to do with India. Unfortunately, you are taking your frustration of not able to beat @Devadwal in these debates with silly jibes. Pls stick to the topic. Thank you for your attention in this matter
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@Devadwal to hamara bacha hai achi nautanki kar leta hai :afridi

we will consider taking @Devadwal serious when he learns how to debate at the moment he does mujra on his own biased posts and then disappears 🤣🤣
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
if you did nt know Geo Politics is about Optics so let me give you a lesson . Its all about optics and what is percieved than what actually transpires

You are quietly buying Russian oil while giving Supposed LiP service to massage Ego of Trump , Pak is doing the same thing. Serving its own interests placing itself in middle of Global conflict that disrupts world economy. Its a vaccum left by Transactional states filled by Opprtunity given to Pak while you can blame Pak is suckig up to Trump , Pak elevates its global Stature.
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Don't change the topic. No one is denying Pak is getting the limelight for diplomacy. But optics for Pak in other things is slavish

Nobel peace prize
Take our oil and rare earth
Sit down stand up in full public glare
Chowkidari of the ummahs


Compare that to indias optics

Refusal to meet Trump or give him any fake credit for bs ceasefire claims
Not budgong on Russian oil under threats of tarrifs
Only reducing Russian oil as part of a negotiated treaty

So what is wrong with India s optics.
There is a whole thread on Pak mediation... We can talk about that in that thread .

You all are trolling India in your mediation effort when Indis is as usual neutral... So we troll when the mediation fails
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Like i Said , India looks for favorable Transactions not Geo Political Alliances . As you have seen in the current conflict, when the world is looking for a principled stance to stop a war, a transactional state is busy looking for a "discount" on fuel.
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This we can discuss... But this is a whole different discussion than India being ordered by USA not to buy Russian oil and India complying. That is false. India did what India wants and only based on negotiated trade deal.

Now coming to your point... Indias policy is non alignment and we stand by our real allies and maintain relationship with our business partners . We don't expect anyone to help us in any conflict but we also don't get involved in other powers war. We are not transactional... What is china or Russia doing... Trying to get oil or sell oil. Are we fanning the conflict .. no we want the conflict to stop. We are trying to get oil and gas to survive...
 
straighttalk said:
You all are trolling India in your mediation effort when Indis is as usual neutral... So we troll when the mediation fails
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India aint victim of trolling but instigators. We are just responding

India started this Trolling by Inserting themselves into Convo that no one asked them to be part of. Biggest Troll is your FM with Dalal Remarks

Indian Media and Opposition started to ask questions on their prime time shows as to why India is missing out in Mediation. Is that not true? Pakistanis who did nt care at the start whether india was part of it or not only got involved when cheap remarks started to fly from neighboours be it mass trolling on SM or even your Prime time anchors were nt lagging behind

You dnt start something and expect others to remain silent now do you?

Your name should be Straight BS. Trying to Gaslight us that we are the ones dragging india into it
 
After Iran and it's terror proxy surrendering to USA and Israel war is closed . Nice outcome and these Mullah brigades never forget the Phainta they have received.

:klopp :kp
 
Iran parliament member Mahmoud Nabavian: Ships can pass by paying tolls.

“With the retreat of the evil US regime and acceptance of a ceasefire in Lebanon, some commercial ships will be allowed to pass through the Strait of Hormuz by PAYING TOLLS.”

Trump jhutha ya Iran. 🤣🤣

Hormuz right now:

OPEN ✅
CLOSED ❌
OPEN ✅
“Wait… maybe CLOSED again” 🤣🤣

Markets refreshing like it’s a cricket scorecard

:klopp :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Iran parliament member Mahmoud Nabavian: Ships can pass by paying tolls.

“With the retreat of the evil US regime and acceptance of a ceasefire in Lebanon, some commercial ships will be allowed to pass through the Strait of Hormuz by PAYING TOLLS.”

Trump jhutha ya Iran. 🤣🤣

Hormuz right now:

OPEN ✅
CLOSED ❌
OPEN ✅
“Wait… maybe CLOSED again” 🤣🤣

Markets refreshing like it’s a cricket scorecard

:klopp :kp
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Hosh mein aaja. War khatam ho gayi hai aur saara credit Pakistan le gaya hai. :yk :inti
 
Devadwal said:
After Iran and it's terror proxy surrendering to USA and Israel war is closed . Nice outcome and these Mullah brigades never forget the Phainta they have received.

:klopp :kp
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If this is how you see it then I'm afraid you're even more stupid then I thought.
you must have been demoted at work because I've had more intelligent phone calls with Indian scammers....
 
IMMY69 said:
Trying to convince a terrorist/terrorist sympathiser

I see.
So US is not a sell out then?
What happened to the March up against the regime call and that regime change is coming????
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So much for the "Persian" monarchists twerking for Trump. All that dancing for nothing, they've got an even more hardline regime in charge now.
 
Rajdeep said:
So Iran opens the Strait of Hornuz with US blockade continues until a deal is made. This will go down as a defeat for Iran right, especially after the military defeat it already faced.

Or I am reading it wrong?

@Devadwal @IMMY69 @Ball Blazer
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Latest updates from IRGC mouthpiece FARS NEWS: IRAN TO CLOSE STRAIT OF HORMUZ IF U.S NAVEL BLOCKADE CONTINUES.

A lot of barking and no bite. So far nothing is confirmed ..

:klopp :kp
 
Iran opens Strait of Hormuz

Iran has opened the Strait of Hormuz to all commercial vessels, its foreign minister has announced.

Abbas Araghchi said that the key oil artery would be “completely open” for the remaining period of the ceasefire in Lebanon, which expires on April 26.

In response, Donald Trump thanked the Islamic Republic, but insisted the US navy blockade of ships entering or leaving Iranian ports would remain in place.

“The naval blockade will remain in full force and effect as it pertains to Iran only, until such time as our transaction with Iran is 100% complete,” he said, referring to a likely peace deal.


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So Iran surrendered in the end. Yes the regime change didn't happen but I was not expecting Iran to adhere and open the strait so quickly.

:kp
 
US President Donald Trump to Reuters:

• The U.S. will work with Iran to recover its enriched uranium and will bring it back to the U.S.

• We will go in at a leisurely pace to recover the uranium

• Once a deal is reached, (trump) might go to Islamabad, but he hasn't made that determination yet.

• U.S. will keep blockade of Strait of Hormuz in place until deal with Iran is finalized.

:kp
 
Iran got what it wanted, including a ceasefire in Lebanon. Yet you still see trolls claiming Iran has “surrendered,” which is laughable.

Iran has also warned that it will close it again if the U.S. does not lift the blockade, so we may soon be back to square one.

Trump appears to be looking for a face‑saving exit and is therefore asking his allies in Pakistan to try to persuade Iran.
 
Devadwal said:
US President Donald Trump to Reuters:

• The U.S. will work with Iran to recover its enriched uranium and will bring it back to the U.S.

• We will go in at a leisurely pace to recover the uranium

• Once a deal is reached, (trump) might go to Islamabad, but he hasn't made that determination yet.

• U.S. will keep blockade of Strait of Hormuz in place until deal with Iran is finalized.

:kp
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Ball Blazer said:
No sane person can call this surrender

but the opposite of sensible is Devadwal.
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If this is not Surrender then not sure what you call? Everyone is not going to surrender like Team 93K. :klopp :kp
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
India aint victim of trolling but instigators. We are just responding

India started this Trolling by Inserting themselves into Convo that no one asked them to be part of. Biggest Troll is your FM with Dalal Remarks

Indian Media and Opposition started to ask questions on their prime time shows as to why India is missing out in Mediation. Is that not true? Pakistanis who did nt care at the start whether india was part of it or not only got involved when cheap remarks started to fly from neighboours be it mass trolling on SM or even your Prime time anchors were nt lagging behind

You dnt start something and expect others to remain silent now do you?

Your name should be Straight BS. Trying to Gaslight us that we are the ones dragging india into it
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Indian fm responded to Indian media and Indian opposition. We are always on side of peace. We are not against what you are trying to do... And to be honest being part of board of peace , sending a policing force, allying with Saudis, buying influence with crypto scams... These are hallmarks of dalal who sold out all their love for ummah. What else do you want to classify it
 
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