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Iran has expressed its reservations regarding the appointment of the former army chief, retired Gen Raheel Sharif, as head of the Saudi-led 39-nation Islamic military alliance, saying it is not 'satisfied' with the coalition.

"We are concerned about this issue... that it may impact the unity of Islamic countries," Iran's Ambassador to Pakistan Mehdi Honardoost said.

Iran's state-run IRNA news agency quoted Honardoost as saying that Pakistan had contacted Iranian officials before issuing the no-objection certificate (NOC) to Gen Sharif to lead the Saudi alliance.

"But that does not indicate that Iran is satisfied with this decision or it has accepted the same," the envoy said.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1324597/i...-as-head-of-saudi-led-military-alliance-envoy
 
These Persians along with their Farsiwan cousins in Afghanistan are the biggest Munafiqs going around , they are involved in terrorism in Pakistan and helping India .

Pakistan did not protest or ask Iran when Iran has been involved in terrorism in Syria Yemen Iraq Lebanon supporting Shia groups in Saudi and Bahrain. And trying to invade Saudi areas

Iran has consolidated its positions in Yemen Iraq and Syria. But that's it there's no way Saudi and Pakistan will allow Iran to threaten Saudi territory , overtake Sunni areas in Yemen or overthrow Bahrain rulers and start projecting power in the gulf against UAE or Oman

That's it now

Same goes for turkey who has also consolidated its position in Euphrates shield and warned Iran about tal afar

If Iran now crosses red line and these other countries start getting attacked by Iranian backed groups Isis itself is Iranian creation , just like ttp khwarij are sponsored by Iran India and Afghanistan
 
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Understandably and very rightly so. Now most people, like the poster above, will call Iran hypocrites and what not and call it Shia militancy and whatever he's talking about but the fact is, anyone, Shia, Sunni, Muslim, Non Muslim, whoever, everyone needs to be concerned and worried. The Saudi led military alliance is a Wahhabi army! For goodness sake, this is like the rebirth of Zia Ul Haq all over again. Have we not already had enough of Islamists and extremism. [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] what is your say regarding this?

Anyway, this Shia militancy the above poster speaks of is absolute garbage. Minorities themselves are the ones being targeted around the world by ISIS, Taliban and other Islamist groups funded by Saudi Govt. and other Middle Eastern Wahabbi Govts. There are numerous examples like the people of Parachinar in Fata, Skardu in GB, Hazara's of Balochistan and numerous bomb blasts on Shia Mosques all over Pakistan. People have a reason to be concerned. Anyone sane needs to be concerned. You don't have to be Shia to understand that the former Army chief, who is extremely popular in Pakistan, becoming the head of a military alliance funded by Wahabi Saudis, the same people who fund ISIS and other terrorist groups is cause for concern.
 
Isis is a Syrian Assad creation

All American wars in Middle East have strengthened Iran

Isis has done one thing and that is kill sunnis it has not attacked Iran or Assad army , its funny Isis has attacked every other county and so has al Qaeda but not attacked the beautiful Persians whose army is a heap of crap proven in Iraq Iran war where they couldn't even capture Basra


Iran has also been involved in supplying taliban and its recents Links with ppp Aman comitee and Indian raw has been exposed it is a direct enemy of Pakistan and now it has been found out any threat to Saudi turkey or their gulf allies by this Iranian mullah regime will be met with swift response Pakistan army will lick and smack you up
 
What conspiracy theories!

Almost all victims of IS terror have been Shias. Whenever, they capture Iraqi or Syrian soldiers, they are lenient towards Sunni officers.One such incident is the Camp Speicher massacre. Every day, there are blasts targeting Shia areas in Iraq.

Truly laughable assertions in this thread.

Thank god Pakistan didn't join hands with the Saudis, Israelis and the Americans to murder innocent people in Yemen.
 
carbon11 said:
Isis is a Syrian Assad creation

All American wars in Middle East have strengthened Iran

Isis has done one thing and that is kill sunnis it has not attacked Iran or Assad army , its funny Isis has attacked every other county and so has al Qaeda but not attacked the beautiful Persians whose army is a heap of crap proven in Iraq Iran war where they couldn't even capture Basra


Iran has also been involved in supplying taliban and its recents Links with ppp Aman comitee and Indian raw has been exposed it is a direct enemy of Pakistan and now it has been found out any threat to Saudi turkey or their gulf allies by this Iranian mullah regime will be met with swift response Pakistan army will lick and smack you up
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I'm very sad at how ignorant you are. I'm sorry to say this but you are. The most important thing I'd like to say to you is, STOP distorting facts and spreading lies. Lets be honest here and not present fake points. ISIS has clearly targeted Shia's however this is not a Sunni vs Shia debate as both are Muslims and Humans and clearly both sects have suffered. However, you must consider the fact that people are killed because of their Shia sounding names even in Syria, Iraq and even Pakistan! So, let me make it clear that Shia's were the first victims of this war.

Secondly, again, I will request you to STOP distorting facts. ISIS is an off shoot of the Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda which was also a Wahabbi group and was present in Syria and Iraq way before the emergence of ISIS. Islamic State was created by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. I don't know where Assad came into the debate. What proof do you have of this? Give me reasons to support you claim.

Thirdly, again, you are distorting facts. Iran's army is actually very competent and I hope you realise that they the main reason for sanctions on Iran was because of their nuclear program?! Thus, it is easy to understand that their army is very strong. And why are you blaming Iran for not having any terrorism in their country? Is that a bad thing?! Pathetic. It is like this because in Iran, Shia's and Sunni's are brothers and share a great relationship.

Again, what proof do you have Iran funded terrorism in Pakistan? Don't give me popular myths.
 
Listen mate Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are directly fighting Isis and al Qaeda and Taliban Pakistan army is going into Saudi Arabia to protect them from these
Groups along with places like Dhammam najran Bahrain where Iranian mullah might have wet dream of taking over with thier Shia militias

All these groups are created by Iran and Israel
They are one dajjal himself will lead an army from Iran with 70000 Jews
 
Isis and al Qaeda have never attacked Iran or isreael but the bin laden and his followers have attacked Pakistan and Saudi Arabia many times and tryed to overthrow the rulers
 
Don't really care what Iran has to say. They should focus on their own country and stop manipulating Pakistanis into joining their sectarian war in Middle East.
 
Isis was not created by Zarqawi it is a Assad Zionist creation

Assad zionist west Iran are all one they have fooled rest of Muslim world

There is one country that has not been attacked that is Iran every other country has been bombed hit in some way by these groups or their Americans themselves have killed people there
 
As for secretarian groups Iran is big sponsor in Pakistan

The links between raw taliban have all been proven

And now links with uzair Baloch baba ladla and Shia Bhutto ishq fauj that are the ppp supporters

Iran has also sent thousand of Pakistanis and afghans into Syria

The evidence is all there alongside their love with India and undermining of gwadar port

Pakistan cannot let this golden opportunity go off leading Islamic military union and also developing Cpec its a game changer for us and bunch of loud secular liberalist and Shias in Pakistan is not going to change that course any obstacle put up will mean war and open enemy and Pakistan army will give u same treatment it gave those ttp khwarij raw afghan agents
 
Months back, you were addressing Pak army as what the TTP addresses it and harping how the TTP is waging a holy war and that Pak army is in the wrong. Now, you are saying the exact opposite. Double personality?
 
Same can be said for you when Pakistan army is fighting ttp and Isis

And has joined Saudi Arabia to protect Saudi Arabia from al queda and Isis who have never attacked Israel and Iran

Just like al queda Sinai and Isis in Sinai kill Egyptians but not Israel army

Now you are Moaning

Your beloved IRan goose is cooked there is clear evidence now of their double dealing and anti Pakistan activities


The whole point Pakistan has gone to Saudi is to protect the kingdom from these groups and any Shia sponsored uprisings backed by Iran in najran dhammam or Bahrain. And using houthi terrorists as proxy army taking over Yemen and trying to invade neighbouring areas of Saudi Arabia


If I had reservations was the innocent suffering of fata tribals but after Peshawar massacre everyone agreed that even Imran Khan that ttp had to be driven out and once operation happened their links to raw and afghan intelligence became clear as daylight
 
Iran can be concerned all it wants as Pak has independent relations with all countries. No one is stopping Iran from joining the alliance. Problem's they have with Saudi are none of Pak's concern at all. Iran has been sponsoring trouble from their Baluchistan in to Pak's side for many years. Over the years they have also been involved in Shia-Sunni tension in Pak as well. We owe them nothing at all.
 
PakLFC said:
Iran can be concerned all it wants as Pak has independent relations with all countries. No one is stopping Iran from joining the alliance. Problem's they have with Saudi are none of Pak's concern at all. Iran has been sponsoring trouble from their Baluchistan in to Pak's side for many years. Over the years they have also been involved in Shia-Sunni tension in Pak as well. We owe them nothing at all.
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And training Pakistani Shia in Iran on pretext of holy visits and making a whole brigade of Pakistanis fighting in Syria for Assad. Pakistan owes Iran nothing.
And then Iran gives Chabahar to Pakistan's arch enemy.
 
Yatoo said:
And training Pakistani Shia in Iran on pretext of holy visits and making a whole brigade of Pakistanis fighting in Syria for Assad. Pakistan owes Iran nothing.
And then Iran gives Chabahar to Pakistan's arch enemy.
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We should also hit them back in Baluchistan as well. We owe them for the evil's they are responsible for in Pakistan. Same applies to Saudi for also making Pak a playground for their sectarian wars. Are you suggesting that we do owe them anything good?
 
PakLFC said:
We should also hit them back in Baluchistan as well. We owe them for the evil's they are responsible for in Pakistan. Same applies to Saudi for also making Pak a playground for their sectarian wars. Are you suggesting that we do owe them anything good?
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Did Saudi do anything without the permission of Zia Ul Haq and others who followed? If yes, then make sure justice is done. If no, then..........................!!
 
Yatoo said:
Did Saudi do anything without the permission of Zia Ul Haq and others who followed? If yes, then make sure justice is done. If no, then..........................!!
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Times change and so do circumstances. Pak was once a sworn enemy of the old Soviet Union, now we are developing good relations with Russia. Can't live in bygone era's.
 
Some Pakistanis are actually proud at the appointment of Raheel Sharif as Leader of a Muslim NATO.
 
Serves Iran right for trying to come in between India and Pakistan w.r.t Kashmir . jiyo Raheel!
 
JaDed said:
Serves Iran right for trying to come in between India and Pakistan w.r.t Kashmir . jiyo Raheel!
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Iran only wanted to be a mediator in terms of Kashmir , not waging wars on their behalf.
 
Rafa said:
Iran only wanted to be a mediator in terms of Kashmir , not waging wars on their behalf.
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Ok then Gen Raheel can mediate between Saudi and Iran lets see how Iran feels about that.
 
Iran signed an agreement back in 2003 with India that in case of IndoPak war,Iran will let India use its air bases against Pakistan and we are worried about Iranian concerns over IMFAT.
 
Alamgeer said:
Iran signed an agreement back in 2003 with India that in case of IndoPak war,Iran will let India use its air bases against Pakistan and we are worried about Iranian concerns over IMFAT.
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Agree, Iran is very close to India. India has good diplomatic relations , done well to do that.
 
Pakistan is always favorite choice of Arab Nations when they need foot soldiers or mercenaries to do states dirty work.
 
javiersuka said:
Pakistan is always favorite choice of Arab Nations when they need foot soldiers or mercenaries to do states dirty work.
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Unlike your bloody bhuttos and ganjas

It's actually the gulf countries and Saudi who provide the Roti kapray makan for Pakistanis , many Pakistanis employed there and a lot of generosity by arabs.

I've driven taxis in London mate and if u get an Arab client or visitor and drive them Around for a while in London they will pay you thousands of pounds as tips and even invite u to Saudi Arabia and honour you Your bhuttos and Iranians will never do that but haggle for the penny change
 
Rightfully concerned. This alliance is nothing but another attempt to undermine Iran. Just another part of the proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
 
carbon11 said:
Unlike your bloody bhuttos and ganjas

It's actually the gulf countries and Saudi who provide the Roti kapray makan for Pakistanis , many Pakistanis employed there and a lot of generosity by arabs.

I've driven taxis in London mate and if u get an Arab client or visitor and drive them Around for a while in London they will pay you thousands of pounds as tips and even invite u to Saudi Arabia and honour you Your bhuttos and Iranians will never do that but haggle for the penny change
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Lol what utter delusions. I have lived in Saudi Arabia for 2 years and never have I come across a people as racist against Pakistanis as they are. And this is me having lived in UK, Europe too where I can count the incidents on one hand as compared to the good 'ol Kingdom.
 
What I don't understand is why do we even care what happens in Saudi Arab / Iran / Middle East..... ????

If they wanna bomb each other then that's their problem, why are we even considering of getting into this mess.....

Just sit back and watch how they tear each other apart !!
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
What I don't understand is why do we even care what happens in Saudi Arab / Iran / Middle East..... ????

If they wanna bomb each other then that's their problem, why are we even considering of getting into this mess.....

Just sit back and watch how they tear each other apart !!
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It is Pakistan Army's doctrine to defend Makkah and Madina against all opposition, therefore by extension we have stakes in the security of Saudi Arabia and hence will always be at odds with Iran. Despite our best efforts we will struggle to remain neutral in the Saudi-Iran conflict.
 
Iran thinks it is stronger than it really is. Iran is in no position to tell Pakistan what to do. Pakistan can easily cut off Iran from rest of the world if it chooses to.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
What I don't understand is why do we even care what happens in Saudi Arab / Iran / Middle East..... ????

If they wanna bomb each other then that's their problem, why are we even considering of getting into this mess.....

Just sit back and watch how they tear each other apart !!
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Muslim Brotherhood and Ummah perhaps.
 
carbon11 said:
Listen mate Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are directly fighting Isis and al Qaeda and Taliban Pakistan army is going into Saudi Arabia to protect them from these

All these groups are created by Iran and Israel
They are one dajjal himself will lead an army from Iran with 70000 Jews
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Those who understand the issues generally agree that ISIS is funded by rich Saudis and Qataris. While Saudi Arabia and Israel are on paper enemies, it is generally all talk. When it comes to action they implicitly or explicitly collaborate against Iran. If you do not understand this, you are gullible and one of those who are easily misled.
 
Pakpak said:
Lol what utter delusions. I have lived in Saudi Arabia for 2 years and never have I come across a people as racist against Pakistanis as they are. And this is me having lived in UK, Europe too where I can count the incidents on one hand as compared to the good 'ol Kingdom.
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Once the oil is gone, or even when it settles to $20 a barrel, all the racism and arrogance will be gone.
 
Surprised to see so much animosity towards Iran on here, and all over a harmless and innocuous comment by an Iranian diplomat.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Surprised to see so much animosity towards Iran on here, and all over a harmless and innocuous comment by an Iranian diplomat.
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How would India feel if Nepal or Maldives start telling her what to do?
 
boomboomcheema said:
Pakistan will always be sympathetic to the Saudi cause due to holy sites.
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Not only because of holy sites. There are even stronger reasons to love arabs.
Ibn Abbas narrated that the Messenger of Allah said,

“Love the Arabs for three reasons:

Because I am an Arab
The Quran is in Arabic
The language of the people of Paradise is Arabic (Baihaqi in Shuabul Iman)
 
Syed1 said:
How would India feel if Nepal or Maldives start telling her what to do?
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Iran did not tell us to do this or that.They just expressed their concern which is their right.It was Saudi Arabia who ordered us to send troops in Yemen.And they also included Pakistan in the military alliance without our knowledge or consent.
 
Alamgeer said:
Not only because of holy sites. There are even stronger reasons to love arabs.
Ibn Abbas narrated that the Messenger of Allah said,

“Love the Arabs for three reasons:

Because I am an Arab
The Quran is in Arabic
The language of the people of Paradise is Arabic (Baihaqi in Shuabul Iman)
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Should we still love the Arabs even if they are wrong
 
syed abbas said:
Should we still love the Arabs even if they are wrong
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No race can be wrong as a whole. I would never hate Arab race whatever the reason may be only because Prophet of Allah belonged to arab race and that is enough for me to love.
 
Alamgeer said:
No difference between people and race in terms of common ancestor. Do you think saudis are not arabs?
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Osama Bin Laden was also an Arab.Should we love him then.Many Arab fighters joined TTP and are fighting against Pak army.According to your logic,we should love them.
 
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syed abbas said:
Osama Bin Laden was also an Arab.Should we love him then.Many Arab fighters joined TTP and are fighting against Pak army.According to your logic,we should love them.
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Your opportunistic dehumanization of Arabs is alone enough to stay away from Iranian Regime. "According to your logic" some Americans were right to hate Iranians just because someone burned their embassy. Should we also hate Pashtuns because TTP has many Pashtuns? Should we hate Baluchs because some of them fight Pakistan? Should we love the same Iran that is allied with a country who has killed many Pakistanis soldiers?
 
Totally incomprehensible this.iran has always supported pskistan over issues of international importance like kashmir and also been of help during indo pak wars.extremely poor stuff by general rahil sharef heading a coalition that is purely sectarian in its essense.
 
Alamgeer said:
Not only because of holy sites. There are even stronger reasons to love arabs.
Ibn Abbas narrated that the Messenger of Allah said,

“Love the Arabs for three reasons:

Because I am an Arab
The Quran is in Arabic
The language of the people of Paradise is Arabic (Baihaqi in Shuabul Iman)
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Yes let's all love the Arabs!!!
Lovely people. In particular the House of Saud.

Oh how I wish I could have been an Arab 😳
 
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Alamgeer said:
No race can be wrong as a whole. I would never hate Arab race whatever the reason may be only because Prophet of Allah belonged to arab race and that is enough for me to love.
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That is so wrong in so many ways.

The Jewish people are the chosen ones.

Do you see?

For the love of god, open your eyes man
 
IMMY69 said:
That is so wrong in so many ways.

The Jewish people are the chosen ones.

Do you see?

For the love of god, open your eyes man
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Agreed. The sooner sub continent Muslims begin to respect their own race first and see themselves on par with their Arab monarchs the sooner the Arabs will come to respect them as people rather then their puppets.

At the moment i just don't see that.
 
Iran conveying the "concern" as the protocol demands.

Factually, no one has real concern about this fictional force.
Think about Arab league, OIC pretty useless/toothless organizations...

Saudi+GCC trying their best to restrict the Iranian influence in the region and failing miserably for over a decade now.

If Pakistan did not send army to Iraq (when Mush was bush's lap...) I am certain Pakistan army will never join any conflict behalf of anyone else. (peacekeeping force is a different thing, when your main job is to distribute food and get paid in dollars). Could anyone imagine, Pakistan sending troops to Yemen on Prince Salman's request?

Raheel got PKR billions worth of land as post retirement package and now he would make some more.
Nothing wrong in it.
 
Iran was once a good friend of Pakistan.
But Pakistan preferred Saudi over Iran...so Iran had no option to go to other regional partners (i.e. India)

Now, Pakistan is disliked by all (but one) neighbors (India, Afghanistan and Iran).
 
Whatever people say, Iran is the only Muslim state which doesn't toe the line of the US and has its own independent domestic and foreign policies. The only Muslim state that is capable of looking the US in the eye and standing up to US aggression; the rest are all American puppets.
 
Black Zero said:
Iran conveying the "concern" as the protocol demands.

Factually, no one has real concern about this fictional force.
Think about Arab league, OIC pretty useless/toothless organizations...

Saudi+GCC trying their best to restrict the Iranian influence in the region and failing miserably for over a decade now.

If Pakistan did not send army to Iraq (when Mush was bush's lap...) I am certain Pakistan army will never join any conflict behalf of anyone else. (peacekeeping force is a different thing, when your main job is to distribute food and get paid in dollars). Could anyone imagine, Pakistan sending troops to Yemen on Prince Salman's request?

Raheel got PKR billions worth of land as post retirement package and now he would make some more.
Nothing wrong in it.
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The initial plan (rumour) was to use Egyptian and Pakistani ground troops (cannon fodder) in Yemen but these two countries refused such a proposal. Saudi and Emirati soldiers have proven to be useless in the battlefield.
 
saeedhk said:
Whatever people say, Iran is the only Muslim state which doesn't toe the line of the US and has its own independent domestic and foreign policies. The only Muslim state that is capable of looking the US in the eye and standing up to US aggression; the rest are all American puppets.
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Lol, look in the eye. Why is your post so dramatic? Last time Iran looked U.S. in the eye they got half of their Navy destroyed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis
 
Saeed said:
Lol, look in the eye. Why is your post so dramatic? Last time Iran looked U.S. in the eye they got half of their Navy destroyed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis
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How relevant! That was 30 years ago. Iran's military strength was nowhere near to what it is now. There is nothing dramatic about it. Iran is the only country that has defied the west for decades and looked after its own interests.
 
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