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Iran confirms supreme leader Khamenei is dead after US, Israeli attacks [Update@ Post 563]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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Iran’s state media [Fars News] confirms that 10 members of IRGC have been eliminated tonight at a checkpoint in Tehran by Israeli drones.:kp
 
JaDed said:
If India or Pakistan had oil or gas I doubt we would had been allowed to make a nuclear bomb too.

Truth is in any scenario of Wind solar it doesn’t matter oil- gas are here to stay, nothing is getting rid of them, anyone that gets monopoly on em will rule, Russia could had avoided the Ukraine war and marched towards riches.
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Hindus would be the terrorists of the world.
 
deltexas said:
So simple question ,, Why doesnt Iran give full access to eliminate all doubt?? Iraq 2003 was different, everyone know it was a B/S excuse used by Bush. Iran is different, they have had a nuclear program in place and so that risk is unacceptable.
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Firstly, the IAEA had access to Iran's nuclear facilities under the terms of the original JCPOA, and verified Iran's compliance in 2016, 2017 and 2018. These were the words of the then IAEA director general in the same month Trump withdrew from the deal:

The IAEA is closely following developments related to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). As requested by the United Nations Security Council and authorised by the IAEA Board of Governors in 2015, the IAEA is verifying and monitoring Iran’s implementation of its nuclear-related commitments under the JCPOA. Iran is subject to the world’s most robust nuclear verification regime under the JCPOA, which is a significant verification gain. As of today, the IAEA can confirm that the nuclear-related commitments are being implemented by Iran.
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You argue this is different to Bush and Iraq, but Trump's first administration adopted exactly the same playbook of pressuring US intelligence to "find" Iranian violations of the deal !

www.theguardian.com

White House 'pressuring' intelligence officials to find Iran in violation of nuclear deal

Intelligence analysts, chastened by the experience of the 2003 Iraq war, are said to be resisting the pressure to come up with evidence of Iranian violations
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Iran only fell into non-compliance AFTER the US withdrew in 2018. However if Iran were hellbent on nukes as you claim, they wouldn't have returned to talks under Biden and now Trump who twice has chosen war over negotiations.

The only viable way of ensuring inspector access is returning to the original JCPOA, which BTW was signed by other world powers including China, Russia, France, Germany and UK, or a revised version of it.
 
Why do Pakistanis think Iran getting a nuclear bomb is good news for them? There is border animosity and disputes between Pak and Iran too. I don’t think sectarian problems are an issue though: most Pakistanis are the most aredent followers of pan-Islamism and ummah than the others. The Arabs or middle eastern countries have a lot more animosity with Iran so they over look this mostly.

I guess Khomeini/Khameni type represents the average Pakistani persons pipe dream- a Persian featured guy with long islamic beard who imposes a strict authoritarian form of Islam. No other reason for them to cheerlead for Iran here. While definitely USA/ Israel are active parcticipants here which is a good reason, so is Middle East which one would guess would be more close to Pakistan from every rational reason be it economic, religious or political alignment perspective.

Probably the opposite reason why a lot of Indian right wingers are begaani shadi mein Abdullah deewana here.
 
deltexas said:
They had a chance in 2005 but no , they chose Hamas and terrorism and then , so be it.. Yeah , some peaceful religions have no concept of co-existing with other religions.
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Zionism is no religion Einstein. Its a ideology similar to Hindutwa, And the Nazis. No wonder your defending it, guilty conscience is kicking in.
 
Local.Dada said:
I guess Khomeini/Khameni type represents the average Pakistani persons pipe dream- a Persian featured guy with long islamic beard who imposes a strict authoritarian form of Islam. No other reason for them to cheerlead for Iran here.
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Lot of pakistanis are not fond of the concept of democracy. They want an islamic theocracy.
 
deltexas said:
Thats what these Islamic supporters dont get .. Israel, US and the world just cant afford Iran to get a nuclear bomb no matter how low the chances are. It is an unacceptable risk that needs to be nipped in thebud or constantly setting them back. Iran could just shut its nuclear bomb program completely and be a peaceful state , but no they will not do it because they want an "Islamic" nuclear bomb to wipe out the satans US and Israel.. and as you said, thats just the reality.
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Was Japan able to afford the West getting nukes?
 
Local.Dada said:
Weird In this guys world, that’s considered an insult lol. For my sensibilities someone saying “get a job” used to be considered an insult. That still holds true right? How is this guy’s wiring so messed up 👆
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I see Halbass9 as one of those confused liberal muslim types. I get that vibe from him.
 
RexRex said:
I see Halbass9 as one of those confused liberal muslim types. I get that vibe from him.
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You all read countless comments from Pakistanis on this forum condemning war, genocide, and ethnic cleansing, yet somehow twist that into them “supporting” Iran having nuclear weapons or backing aggression.

The only ones who seem confused here are the Hindutva crowd, who openly cheer for war and colonial style domination. And the reason is hardly mysterious, the hatred for Muslims makes the position pretty obvious.
 
Local.Dada said:
Weird In this guys world, that’s considered an insult lol. For my sensibilities someone saying “get a job” used to be considered an insult. That still holds true right? How is this guy’s wiring so messed up 👆
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It was a complement for you.
 
HalBass9 said:
The only ones who seem confused here are the Hindutva crowd, who openly cheer for war and colonial style domination. And the reason is hardly mysterious, the hatred for Muslims makes the position pretty obvious.
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I'll leave that one for the hindutva crowd to answer.
 

Identified as Mayuree Naree, the vessel is a Thai-flagged bulk carrier that was sailing from Dubai toward India when it came under fire in the narrow and strategically important waterway.​

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US-Isral vs Iran War: A merchant cargo vessel heading toward India became the latest casualty of the ongoing war in the Persian Gulf after Iran confirmed that its forces fired on a commercial ship passing through the Strait of Hormuz. The attack has raised concerns over the safety of one of the world’s busiest maritime routes and the growing risks to international shipping.

Identified as Mayuree Naree, the vessel is a Thai-flagged bulk carrier that was sailing from Dubai toward India when it came under fire in the narrow and strategically important waterway. Iranian military authorities later acknowledged that the ship had been targeted by fighters from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). This is one of the most direct attacks on a merchant vessel since tensions escalated across the region from February 28.

According to maritime security reports, the cargo ship was struck by projectiles while passing through waters close to Oman in the Strait of Hormuz. The impact triggered a fire and caused serious damage to the vessel’s engine section, forcing crew members to abandon parts of the ship as smoke billowed from the hull.


The ship had been sailing toward the western coast of India and was expected to reach a port in Gujarat for dismantling work at the Alang ship-breaking yard, one of the largest such facilities in the world. The journey began in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) before the vessel entered the narrow corridor that connects the Persian Gulf with the Arabian Sea.


Rescue operations began soon after the strike. Naval units in the region moved quickly to evacuate crew members from the damaged ship as lifeboats surrounded the burning vessel. Authorities confirmed that 20 sailors were rescued safely, while three crew members are missing after the attack. Search teams continued combing the waters around the strait in hopes of locating the missing sailors.


Photographs released by maritime authorities showed thick plumes of black smoke rising from the cargo ship while rescue boats approached the vessel. The damage left the once-steady merchant ship bruised and battered as it drifted through one of the most strategically important shipping lanes in the world.


The attack occurred during a period of intense military activity across the Gulf region. The Strait of Hormuz has become increasingly volatile as war between US-Israel and Iran intensified following February 28 airstrikes on Iranian targets. Maritime agencies have warned that merchant ships sailing through the strait now face growing threats from missiles, drones and naval mines.

zeenews.india.com

Iran confirms missile strike on India-bound cargo ship in Strait of Hormuz, 3 sailors missing

Identified as Mayuree Naree, the vessel is a Thai-flagged bulk carrier that was sailing from Dubai toward India when it came under fire in the narrow and strategically important waterway.
zeenews.india.com zeenews.india.com
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Companies are putting life of employees at risk.

Iran has been very clear the strait is closed. Why the hell are they risking it? There are plenty of ships sitting in the gulf waiting for things to ease up before moving.
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The strait isn’t closed it’s selectively allowed..
Thai ship has been attacked ..
 
Land based cruise missiles and land based anti ship missiles from China very deadly alongwith aerial and sea drones and mines

No wonder us is staying clear of those straits because chance of a us ship getting hit is high if they get close to the iranian coast .

It would be epic embarrassment for trump if a us naval vessel gets hit .
 
Devadwal said:
Israel Defense Minister Katz:

"The Iranian leadership that survived is fleeing like mice into the tunnels, just like the Hamas leadership in Gaza. From there they give orders to shoot at civilians and children in Israel and throughout the region. The morgues in hospitals in Iran are filled with thousands of Revolutionary Guards and Basij members. The operation led by President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu will continue without any time limit - until we achieve all the goals and win the battle."

:kp
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Rich coming from a dog whose country has just martyred over 50.000 children and Women in Gaza.

And he is saying Iranian leaders are hiding, lol just let the World first know where his kalb Netanyahu is?
 
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