Lets be honest, the change will not come without War.
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Pak establishment will not change either without American intervention. Lets be honest, mass majority of Pakistanis would love Trump to intervene to free Imran Khan and remove the current establishment. There was a thread dreaming about it here as well.
Pakistanis also supported US intervention to remove Seikh Haseena from Bangladesh.
However, when it comes to Iran, they support the evil regime. Wonder why?
Stick to one stance.
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Pakistani are living under coup regime installed by USA.
Ya wouldn't disagree with you there. Hence why Pakistani population openly speaks against their pathetic puppet governments and leashed establishment. Atleast we arent shameless and blindly cheer the war mongerers like Indians just becsuse they are white colonziers
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Why is Pakistan a dump though, living off bail outs without being slaves to the goras?
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Iran is a democracy.
Unfortunately for us Brits, we aren't. Neither are the US. Where the zionest establishment dictates who gets power
The Iranians are perfectly capable of overthrowing tyrannical regimes themselves without external interference as seen in 1905 and 1979.
The only freedom Trump seeks is the freedom for America to plunder Iran's resources, and for Israel to militarily dominate the region. Trump and Netanyahu barely uphold democracy in their own countries so what makes you think they wish to safeguard one in Iran ?
I've no love for the Iranian regime. Khomeini balanced left and right wing factions fairly well but this Khameini destroyed progressive voices in Iran, including many clerics who supported the 79 Revolution.
However I absolutely back Iran's right to respond to this brazen aggression. For the second time in a year, Iran chose dialogue while the Paedophile and the Crook upended talks and chose war.
Saudi Arabia should really not enter this war. It will be suicide for them.
All their oil fields are in Eastern province, which are extremely Shia populated (Saudi is 15-18% Shia most in eastern province) who are marginalized and have strong Irani affection.
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Just the govrntment who begs and steals it all, we don't support that. Just like how your leaders do special showing of dance in saree to Israel and Trump, and run off to them calling them your Fathers.
All leashed to serve but it's the people where the actual stance stands, how Indians blindly side with anyone who is bombing Muslims anywhere is rather ridiculous. You generations were chained for centuries by the same white Supermacist mentality which continues to go around wage wars and destruction, learn from it and perhaps have some shame
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if you believe this is being done to ‘free’ the Iranian people..then you are delusional. This is the ‘greater Israel’ project unfolding in front of our eyes.
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How world leaders are reacting
Following US and Israel's strikes on Iran - and Tehran's retaliation - we've been hearing from world leaders:
EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen reminds us that the European bloc has adopted "extensive sanctions" in response to Iran’s "murderous regime". "We call on all parties to exercise maximum restraint, to protect civilians, and to fully respect international law."
Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s office expresses solidarity with Iran’s civilian population, saying it continues to demand respect for civil and political rights. The office adds that Meloni will consult allies and regional leaders to support efforts to ease tensions.
Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says his country "stands with the brave people of Iran in their struggle against oppression" and supports the US in efforts to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
Meanwhile, Russia’s foreign ministry describes the US and Israel’s actions as "reckless", saying they violate international law. Russia calls for a return to political and diplomatic solutions.
Earlier, a UK government spokesperson said the country does "not want to see further escalation into a wider regional conflict", adding, "we stand ready to protect our interests".
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Following US and Israel's strikes on Iran - and Tehran's retaliation - we've been hearing from world leaders:
EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen reminds us that the European bloc has adopted "extensive sanctions" in response to Iran’s "murderous regime". "We call on all parties to exercise maximum restraint, to protect civilians, and to fully respect international law."
Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s office expresses solidarity with Iran’s civilian population, saying it continues to demand respect for civil and political rights. The office adds that Meloni will consult allies and regional leaders to support efforts to ease tensions.
Australia’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says his country "stands with the brave people of Iran in their struggle against oppression" and supports the US in efforts to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
Meanwhile, Russia’s foreign ministry describes the US and Israel’s actions as "reckless", saying they violate international law. Russia calls for a return to political and diplomatic solutions.
Earlier, a UK government spokesperson said the country does "not want to see further escalation into a wider regional conflict", adding, "we stand ready to protect our interests".
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Intervention yes - bombing, strikes and land invasion NO!
Very Very Sad....poor kids
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Twenty-four students at a girls' school were killed on Saturday in Israeli-US airstrikes that were first reported in Tehran and then the rest of the country. The deaths in Minab were the first confirmed fatalities in Iran in the operation.
Iran's paramilitary Revolutionary Guard has a base in Minab.
After the attacks on Iran, US President Donald Trump called on the Iranian people to "seize control of your destiny" and rise up against the Islamic leadership that has ruled the nation since 1979.
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24 Girl Students Killed At A School In Southern Iran In Israel-US Strikes
Twenty-four students at a girls' school were killed on Saturday in Israeli-US airstrikes that were first reported in Tehran and then the rest of the country. The deaths in Minab were the first confirmed fatalities in Iran in the operation.
Iran's paramilitary Revolutionary Guard has a base in Minab.
After the attacks on Iran, US President Donald Trump called on the Iranian people to "seize control of your destiny" and rise up against the Islamic leadership that has ruled the nation since 1979.
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So moral of the story whites are bad. OK.
In Pakistan's case their citizens don't support the whites but their leaders do hence they are broke, dead and gone for good as a country.
India on the other hand their citizens support the Goras and as a result becomes the 4th largest economy.
Yeah you are making a strong argument here, Indians should be ashamed.
Let me guess you live in the UK ?
Israel and USA are professional child murderers
But Trump just said in his press conference that once US is done dealing with Iran, people of Iran can take over their country and elect the govt the desire.
This is the same Trump that Pakistan nominated for noble peace prize. So I have no reason to doubt him
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Pakistan must realise what if US-Isreal neutralise Iran , then these Zionist will be alot closer to Pakistan's border.
The Fars news agency says Iran’s senior officials are “in perfect health”, including President Masoud Pezeshkian, parliament speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and security chief Ali Larijani.
“While Israeli sources have claimed to have targeted and succeeded in attacking the president and senior Iranian leaders, official sources within the country report that senior regime officials, including the heads of the armed forces, are in perfect health,” the report said.
“While Israeli sources have claimed to have targeted and succeeded in attacking the president and senior Iranian leaders, official sources within the country report that senior regime officials, including the heads of the armed forces, are in perfect health,” the report said.
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I am absolutely with Iran in this war.
Uncle Khameini, before you bid Adeu inko ek baar maza dila do
Uncle Khameini, before you bid Adeu inko ek baar maza dila do
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A new war in Iran could badly disadvantage Pakistan as it faces an all-out conflict with Afghanistan: Unrest in neighboring Iran could spill into Balochistan and embolden the BLA, resulting in rising violence & terrorism in both Pakistan’s northwest and southwest border regions.
Pakistan already had bad relations with india.
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You are correct and there’s no prize for guessing Pakistan is only the next logical target.
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Screw you, killers of humanity.
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Yet you have no problems with the Afghan border committing suicide bombings in Pakistan
Pakistan does not need to trust or realise what’s right for itself through the ideas of a Nasli Munafiq
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Yes Pakistan should see the world through the lens of potty patrick like youYet you have no problems with the Afghan border committing suicide bombings in Pakistan
Pakistan does not need to trust or realise what’s right for itself through the ideas of a Nasli Munafiq
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Board of idiots
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What’s a potty Patrick? Is that one of those khusras on your speed dial for PTI Jalsas?
As a pakistani I would be happy if iran rains hell on these gulf arabs they absolutely deserve it .
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I am with you on this.
It’s not about Pakistani or Indian, it’s about sovereignty and civilizations pride. I want Iran to rain missiles on these munafiqs and destroy their fake cities.
Every country takes political advantage in such situation. Britain is no different
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Starmer Faces Backlash for Denying US Use of UK Bases in Iran Strikes
President Donald Trump launched major combat operations against Iran's missile sites, navy, and proxies, prompting Iranian missile retaliation toward Israel and US Gulf facilities. Starmer responded by holding an emergency COBR meeting, deploying RAF Typhoons to Qatar and F-35s to Cyprus for defense, while urging British nationals in the Gulf to shelter and warning Iran against targeting UK forces. Opposition leaders like Richard Tice and Nigel Farage slammed the move as damaging the US partnership, especially amid prior denials of base access at RAF Fairford and Diego Garcia tied to the Chagos Islands deal, though supporters praised the caution to avoid escalation.
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Starmer Faces Backlash for Denying US Use of UK Bases in Iran Strikes
President Donald Trump launched major combat operations against Iran's missile sites, navy, and proxies, prompting Iranian missile retaliation toward Israel and US Gulf facilities. Starmer responded by holding an emergency COBR meeting, deploying RAF Typhoons to Qatar and F-35s to Cyprus for defense, while urging British nationals in the Gulf to shelter and warning Iran against targeting UK forces. Opposition leaders like Richard Tice and Nigel Farage slammed the move as damaging the US partnership, especially amid prior denials of base access at RAF Fairford and Diego Garcia tied to the Chagos Islands deal, though supporters praised the caution to avoid escalation.
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So moral of the story whites are bad. OK.
In Pakistan's case their citizens don't support the whites but their leaders do hence they are broke, dead and gone for good as a country.
India on the other hand their citizens support the Goras and as a result becomes the 4th largest economy.
Yeah you are making a strong argument here, Indians should be ashamed.
Let me guess you live in the UK ?
Again the 4th largest economy nonsense. You are still a third world du*g, with wide spread poverty and hunger as a norm among masses. Any videos clip of India looks like among the worst of filthy nation....this thread is not about India and Pakistan. And how did you even end up with chest beating about money again? China is your size and light years ahead without bending over backwards for your colonziers.
Don't skip the query, why are Indians so enslaved with siding with the Colonziers so naturally considering your forefathers were chained like pets for generations? Deeply rooted islamophobia and simply it's just in your blood passed on from generations to serve colonizers are the only obvious answers
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Inki alag natanki chalti rehti hae social media pe
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Bibi tune dosti ka farz nibhaya. For this thank you. But you did wrong brother.
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You monsters. Why you attacked girls school?
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Who is she?
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Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Pakistan getting bombed and Iran.
Meanwhile Indians celebrating Holi. Tum aapas main ladte rahi. Hume koi Lena dena nahi hai.
Blessed to born in India.
Meanwhile Indians celebrating Holi. Tum aapas main ladte rahi. Hume koi Lena dena nahi hai.
Blessed to born in India.
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Spain's PM says his country rejects the 'unilateral military action by the US and Israel'
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All of this can end if you take out Netenyahu, how hard can it be.
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That places the Saudi-Pakistan mutual defence alliance in a tricky position. Both have sworn to help the other in case of war. Now both are pretty much at war and are obliged to assist each other.
Maybe Saudi Arabia can provide funding and military equipment and the vaunted Pakistan Airforce can extend it's bombing campaign to include Iran?
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Oh yaar koi is insaan ki tou posts ban karay. People are dying and this guy is dishing out smilies. Koi insaniyat nahi hai tumharay mein?Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Pakistan getting bombed and Iran.
Meanwhile Indians celebrating Holi. Tum aapas main ladte rahi. Hume koi Lena dena nahi hai.
Blessed to born in India.
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If the 4th largest economy is so cool, what are you doing in the 14th largest economy, so far from your Narendra?
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PP has been taken over by Indians.
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Foreign minister of Oman, who was mediating talks between US and Iran, says 'I am dismayed' and that 'I urge the United States not to get sucked in further. This is not your war.'
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Pictures should go to the US citizens so they can see what their president is doing.
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Sab ko jaan pyari hai…
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So moral of the story whites are bad. OK.
In Pakistan's case their citizens don't support the whites but their leaders do hence they are broke, dead and gone for good as a country.
India on the other hand their citizens support the Goras and as a result becomes the 4th largest economy.
Yeah you are making a strong argument here, Indians should be ashamed.
Let me guess you live in the UK ?
Let me guess you don’t live in India.
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Irans reply:American base in Bahrain
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Yeah thread is not about India Pakistan, you are genius that brought India into this thread which I was responding to.
Also remember you are a convert, you are not part of the middle eastern war between the Jews, Arabs or whoever else. You need to wait your turn till the Arab masters give you instructions on when to jump, till then sit still there and wait like a nice little useless pawn.
The irony in all this is when you say Indians bending over to the goras, the custodians of Islam look down on your converted as**, despite you crying saar saar I am named myself Mohammad, Abdool, Rahim, Fatima, Aiesha saar saaar, they still look at you like a cockroach because of your sub continental ethnicity.
Lastly you skipping answering the question about where you live, pretty much confirms you are a Britstani, nice oxymoron that, hating the whites but saar I cant live in Pakistan
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You guessed right saarrr..
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This is good analysis. Us have already vacated its most of the near by bases .Iran have to waste a long range ones while both us and Israel can have more time to detect and take care of them.As of now Iran is pounding the empty bases with left alone small range ones.
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I like Australia better saaar.....
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Looks like Iran is attempting to get the Gulf to pressure Trump to end the war through sustained strikes… I feel this strategy is going to backfire?
Or It has already backfired as UAE Bahrain Jordan Qatar and Saudis all said they will defend their countries.
Iran isolated in ME now.
Or It has already backfired as UAE Bahrain Jordan Qatar and Saudis all said they will defend their countries.
Iran isolated in ME now.
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So please sit down in your corner and keep talking about the “4th largest economy”, maybe after that famous river stops being a symbol people romanticize while ignoring the reality around it. The whole situation feels like a metaphor, big economic rankings on paper, yet everyday conditions telling a very different story. For all the pride in the label, countless non converts still struggle with the basics, and even some of your own champions chose to leave and never return to that so called economic powerhouse.
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Time to jump on Zionist….
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Rubio notified some members of the Gang of 8 before Iran attack
Secretary of State Marco Rubio reached out to some members of the so-called Gang of 8 to notify them of the operation in Iran before it was underway, multiple Congressional offices confirmed to ABC News.
Members of the Gang of 8 include the top bipartisan House and Senate leaders and the chairs and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees.
On Tuesday, hours ahead of the president's State of the Union address, Rubio and CIA Director John Ratcliffe virtually briefed the Gang of 8 on Capitol Hill on Iran.
Immediately following the briefing, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters: "This is serious, and the administration has to make its case to the American people."
Secretary of State Marco Rubio reached out to some members of the so-called Gang of 8 to notify them of the operation in Iran before it was underway, multiple Congressional offices confirmed to ABC News.
Members of the Gang of 8 include the top bipartisan House and Senate leaders and the chairs and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees.
On Tuesday, hours ahead of the president's State of the Union address, Rubio and CIA Director John Ratcliffe virtually briefed the Gang of 8 on Capitol Hill on Iran.
Immediately following the briefing, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters: "This is serious, and the administration has to make its case to the American people."
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Huh
I am also an American citizen, they are the number 1 economy, I don't live there either.
What's your point here Sherlock do enlighten me, are you saying I can't have my opinion ? I speak the truth of Pakistan being a useless lost cause and India having a better future, surely you can't even deny that.
Pakistanis like you along with a whole lot of pseudo secular Indians get butt hurt when reading my posts and I love that, makes me excited and motivated
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Wannabe convict ? What about my American citizenship? What does that make me ?
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So moral of the story whites are bad. OK.
In Pakistan's case their citizens don't support the whites but their leaders do hence they are broke, dead and gone for good as a country.
India on the other hand their citizens support the Goras and as a result becomes the 4th largest economy.
Yeah you are making a strong argument here, Indians should be ashamed.
Let me guess you live in the UK ?
Nothing to be ashamed of bro. Indian Hindus have always bowed to the British Raj, from history of Empire to the current day. You are right, this has allowed you to get less of a whuppin' from the massa and achieve the status of house servant.
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and what they going to do in Pakistan we don't have any resources like oil?
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Huh
I am also an American citizen, they are the number 1 economy, I don't live there either.
What's your point here Sherlock do enlighten me, are you saying I can't have my opinion ? I speak the truth of Pakistan being a useless lost cause and India having a better future, surely you can't even deny that.
Pakistanis like you along with a whole lot of pseudo secular Indians get butt hurt when reading my posts and I love that, makes me excited and motivated
You just got butt hurt with my opinion.
So instead of returning to India, the 4th largest economy, you moved to Australia. Rivers are probably cleaner in Australia and non converts aren’t lynching over cows under government protection.
Sit down, you’ve clowned yourself enough for today.
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Nothing to be ashamed bro. Converts from the subcontinent have always bent over for the custodians of Islam. What's not right is despite all the tail licking to the Arabs and their God, it didn't yield you any results, poor Pakistan
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Oh yeah I am butt hurt, nice cope mechanism there bud.
Pakistan is just a lost cause and can never be revived, I stated this consistently on here for decades
..It actually saddens me to see Pakistan gone for good, the entire neighbourhood could've thrived had Pakistan got their house in order..
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Nothing to be ashamed bro. Converts from the subcontinent have always bent over for the custodians of Islam. What's not right is despite all the tail licking to the Arabs and their God, it didn't yield you any results, poor Pakistan
You were the one who mentioned supporting goras bro, now when I agree with you, you get stung and start abusing arabs. All this proves is your subservience to the master race, and I agree with you. They are your superiors.
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Really, if you connect the dots you will understand what the big game is here, how many things are related to eachother. It's sad, really sad and hurting.
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Actually Cap I wasnt the one to bring Goras into the talks, our resident UK convert Kriketer was the first one to mention it.
Supporting the Goras have helped India quite a lot, credit where it is due.
Supporting the custodians of Islam has got Pakistan into an ungettoutable mess.
Much rather the whites imo.
Now the only question is Cap, why do you live in a Gora country hating them so much ? Pakistan needs soldiers like you on ground in the country not in that evil caucasian colonial UK...
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Oh yeah I am butt hurt, nice cope mechanism there bud.
Pakistan is just a lost cause and can never be revived, I stated this consistently on here for decades
It actually saddens me to see Pakistan gone for good, the entire neighbourhood could've thrived had Pakistan got their house in order..
A non convert racist will never genuinely mourn the suffering of the very people they choose to hate.
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What the ? I don't hate anyone bud, i say things like I see it.
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You do, especially when you casually use words like “converts” to describe entire groups. That level of comfort with generalization speaks volumes about your inherent bigotry.
And no ‘Pakistan’ didn’t nominate him for a noble prize award.
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Yet you seemed to worry the most. Don't you have a life?Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Pakistan getting bombed and Iran.
Meanwhile Indians celebrating Holi. Tum aapas main ladte rahi. Hume koi Lena dena nahi hai.
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