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Iran confirms supreme leader Khamenei is dead after US, Israeli attacks [Update@ Post 563]

How will Iran react to the attack from Israel?

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This is a momentous occasion, hard to believe the Ayatollah is finally dead. The intelligence required for this must have been extensive and years in the making. Either Iran is crawling with israeli spies or Uncle Sam's powerful satellites have mapped out every inch of Iran and kept tracking of the ruling elite.
 
Zionists made a point to attack in the holy month.. this is to make sure that more people get radicalized.
 
RexRex said:
This is a momentous occasion, hard to believe the Ayatollah is finally dead. The intelligence required for this must have been extensive and years in the making. Either Iran is crawling with israeli spies or Uncle Sam's powerful satellites have mapped out every inch of Iran and kept tracking of the ruling elite.
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They were negotiating continuously, they probably figured out by then. My inner pessimist self thinks Red Wedding scenarios are real when it comes to West.
 
JaDed said:
Zionists made a point to attack in the holy month.. this is to make sure that more people get radicalized.
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They also fund a lot of the radicalization programs.

www.sarahanews.net

From the ISIS industry files, “Abu Hafs al-Isra’ili” is a good example

Sarahah News - Jordan
www.sarahanews.net www.sarahanews.net

Israeli spy masquerading as an imam of the mosque and radicalizing, recruiting etc.

They teach their personnel Arabic extensively and just enough about Islam to dupe the layman.

This is why being educated about Islam as a Muslim is important.

Unfortunately too many people don’t have regular education nor education about their faith and are ripe for the harvest for these cretin
 
RexRex said:
This is a momentous occasion, hard to believe the Ayatollah is finally dead. The intelligence required for this must have been extensive and years in the making. Either Iran is crawling with israeli spies or Uncle Sam's powerful satellites have mapped out every inch of Iran and kept tracking of the ruling elite.
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Let me try to educate you just slightly because I know for fact you won’t get it:

The supreme ayotullah gets picked by Majlis - which are all ayotullahs. So if you take him out, the next one steps in. Keep in mind Aya Khamanei was more lenient than the ones below him. He was ok with negotiations. Others are not like him. Some are pro making the nukes. It was him who had verdict we can’t make a nuke.

But yea, your understanding of Iran is whatever you hear from Truth Social
 
rballer said:
Let me try to educate you just slightly because I know for fact you won’t get it:

The supreme ayotullah gets picked by Majlis - which are all ayotullahs. So if you take him out, the next one steps in. Keep in mind Aya Khamanei was more lenient than the ones below him. He was ok with negotiations. Others are not like him. Some are pro making the nukes. It was him who had verdict we can’t make a nuke.

But yea, your understanding of Iran is whatever you hear from Truth Social
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Whereas you must have highly placed sources in the Ayatollah's office to know how he thinks and what his intentions are. 🥱
 
Iranian missiles attacked Dubai International Airport, label ali port and some building near burj al Arab....

Aljazeera
 
For all of Iran’s pre attack bravado and even with advance knowledge of the attacks, Israel managed to take him out on Day 1 of the attacks. Food for thought.
 
I am so confused why would he work in his public office ..knowing an attack was imminent .wouldnt he be in a secret location
 
Mockingbird said:
For all of Iran’s pre attack bravado and even with advance knowledge of the attacks, Israel managed to take him out on Day 1 of the attacks. Food for thought.
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It’s a surveillance world, ever since 2008, West and China have so much surveillance around the world it’s almost impossible to best them unless u r as big as Russia or have nuclear weapons.
 
Suleiman said:
They also fund a lot of the radicalization programs.

www.sarahanews.net

From the ISIS industry files, “Abu Hafs al-Isra’ili” is a good example

Sarahah News - Jordan
www.sarahanews.net www.sarahanews.net

Israeli spy masquerading as an imam of the mosque and radicalizing, recruiting etc.

They teach their personnel Arabic extensively and just enough about Islam to dupe the layman.

This is why being educated about Islam as a Muslim is important.

Unfortunately too many people don’t have regular education nor education about their faith and are ripe for the harvest for these cretin
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Always suspected ISIS was a MOSSAD project.
 
JaDed said:
It’s a surveillance world, ever since 2008, West and China have so much surveillance around the world it’s almost impossible to best them unless u r as big as Russia or have nuclear weapons.
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Yeah, but I would have thought they would move Khamenei to a safe bunker or something. He was caught in his palace.
 
Lonewarrior said:
i dont get it. why the Mods allow some hindutva guys posting nonsense over here.
i have watched almost all indian posters, they come to mock islamic faith be it direct or indirect.
how come mods are allowing this ?
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It is both ways, I mainly only respond for the rubbish that gets posted here about Hindus and Indians. No one is innocent..
 
Mockingbird said:
Yeah, but I would have thought they would move Khamenei to a safe bunker or something. He was caught in his palace.
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If Khomeini is really dead, it's probably the best news for the people of Iran. They can surrender privately and give up the nuclear and missile stuff while keeping up the rhetoric of defiance for internal consumption - the Venezuela model so to say. A calm, peaceful transfer of power...appoint a new Supreme Leader Ayatollah but make it clear to him on the inside that he's not to 'Supreme'.

You're right that the assassination, if true, was too easy. Again on the Venezuela model, information and help was likely provided from inside the Iranian administration. It's clear from the killing of Haniyeh that Israel does have contacts in there.

We'll know if this is true from events over the next few days. Iran's wild retaliations should stop and both sides will declare victory.
 
Mockingbird said:
For all of Iran’s pre attack bravado and even with advance knowledge of the attacks, Israel managed to take him out on Day 1 of the attacks. Food for thought.
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Probably the best time to take anyone out before they can go into hiding. Cowardly assassination by the Zionist dogs.
 
Josh said:
RIP. A learned man, good poet, with his obvious flaws and regressive mindset in somethings, he wasn't crazy as portrayed. Good friend to India by the way.
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Tell that to the 40000 odd Iranian rebels who were crushed in the past year. The regime was also very ruthless as it can be.
 
repeatedly iran has shown an inability to protect its top brass, for a country that tries to flex its military capabilities their intelligence and counter intelligence is an absolute dump. the previous conflict showed, other than launching missles iran has no capibility for modern warfare.
 
Lonewarrior said:
i dont get it. why the Mods allow some hindutva guys posting nonsense over here.
i have watched almost all indian posters, they come to mock islamic faith be it direct or indirect.
how come mods are allowing this ?
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Confused lot, given that they go to great pains to say Iran and Khamenei was a friend. Seems they're frothing mouth has jumped the gun on this one.
 
Hats off to Israel's precision strike on Iran which it killed Ali Khamenei..... last year Israel killed many commanders in missile attack
 
Kroll said:
Confused lot, given that they go to great pains to say Iran and Khamenei was a friend. Seems they're frothing mouth has jumped the gun on this one.
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The truth is nobody is anyone’s friend - except US and Israel. Forget about India, look inwards at the Islamic world itself- despite the same religion, they are bombing each other.
 
Red-Indian said:
If Khomeini is really dead, it's probably the best news for the people of Iran. They can surrender privately and give up the nuclear and missile stuff while keeping up the rhetoric of defiance for internal consumption - the Venezuela model so to say. A calm, peaceful transfer of power...appoint a new Supreme Leader Ayatollah but make it clear to him on the inside that he's not to 'Supreme'.

You're right that the assassination, if true, was too easy. Again on the Venezuela model, information and help was likely provided from inside the Iranian administration. It's clear from the killing of Haniyeh that Israel does have contacts in there.

We'll know if this is true from events over the next few days. Iran's wild retaliations should stop and both sides will declare victory.
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Only grade a idiots think Iran wins any conflict ..Israel has been systematically taking out military leadership scientists military assets and now the political leadership...it's just one way battering
 
Mockingbird said:
Tell that to the 40000 odd Iranian rebels who were crushed in the past year. The regime was also very ruthless as it can be.
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That's how it happens in non democratic countries, when power starts to slip from the hands
 
Red-Indian said:
If Khomeini is really dead, it's probably the best news for the people of Iran. They can surrender privately and give up the nuclear and missile stuff while keeping up the rhetoric of defiance for internal consumption - the Venezuela model so to say. A calm, peaceful transfer of power...appoint a new Supreme Leader Ayatollah but make it clear to him on the inside that he's not to 'Supreme'.

You're right that the assassination, if true, was too easy. Again on the Venezuela model, information and help was likely provided from inside the Iranian administration. It's clear from the killing of Haniyeh that Israel does have contacts in there.

We'll know if this is true from events over the next few days. Iran's wild retaliations should stop and both sides will declare victory.
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Iranian regime has 3-4 level of succession already planned. Throwing away this is not so easy
 
Josh said:
Iranian regime has 3-4 level of succession already planned. Throwing away this is not so easy
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The way Israel operates .half are already dead and rest will be as soon as as they come to power. It's one way battering of Iran and it can do nothing but shoot at oman uae etc
 
Looking back, October 7th mustn't seen like a good decision to Iran and Hamas
 
RexRex said:
This is a momentous occasion, hard to believe the Ayatollah is finally dead. The intelligence required for this must have been extensive and years in the making. Either Iran is crawling with israeli spies or Uncle Sam's powerful satellites have mapped out every inch of Iran and kept tracking of the ruling elite.
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How is it momentous?
 
Hitman said:
Here is something he posted in 2020 about my country.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1235534356363517955
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Pretty decent tweet all considered. No threats or over the top rhetoric and addressed to the Indian government in a reasonable tone. Maybe the use of the word massacre is a bit over the top but the Indian government has tweeted similarly about murders of Hindus in Bangladesh.

As @Josh says, Iran has been a decent friend to India. Iran and Khomeini have always had a lot of influence over Indian Shias (you just have to pass a Shia mosque to see the posters) but they've never provoked or encouraged them to indulge in extremism. Trade and cultural exchange has been solid and consistent too.

I don't doubt we'll maintain the relationship with whoever takes over but it's still a change and brings unpredictability.
 
Israelis have managed to take out Khamenei, shows how deep Mossad penetration into the regime is. Its the most spectacular intelligence operation of all time - Israeli infiltration of Iranian society-polity..

:kp
 
Josh said:
Iranian regime has 3-4 level of succession already planned. Throwing away this is not so easy
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We have all seen the regime ‘planning’ today. Couldn’t save the Khamenei despite all the advance warnings.

Israel is capable of taking out anybody.
 
Kamala Harris calls strikes 'dangerous and unnecessary gamble with American lives'

Former Vice President Kamala Harris, in a statement posted on social media on Saturday, criticized Trump's strikes on Iran as "dragging the United States into a war the American people do not want," calling the gambit a "dangerous and unnecessary gamble with American lives that also jeopardizes stability in the region and our standing in the world."

"I know the threat that Iran poses, and they must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, but this is not the way to dismantle that threat ... And let us all be clear-eyed about what comes next. The President has already said this conflict may produce American casualties," Harris wrote.

She also criticized Trump's campaign promise to not start new wars as "a lie", as well as Trump's claim last year that he had obliterated Iran's main nuclear program.

abcnews.com

Kamala Harris calls strikes 'dangerous and unnecessary gamble with American lives'

abcnews.com abcnews.com
 
Kroll said:
Note the word "extremists".
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Just like many others here, he was careful to clearly distinguish between extremists and Hindus in general. It has always been the extremists who try to blur that line, just as extremist Muslims, or extremists from any religion or ideology, tend to do.
 
My Iranian coworker’s mother was shot in the leg during the recent protests. He’s an only child, and the poor guy couldn’t even leave Canada to be with his parents because he fears he would be killed if he returned.

I’ve never met a single pro-regime Iranian in Canada, so I am not sure where the support for the regime in this thread, especially among some Pakistani posters, is coming from. I doubt many of you are dual citizens who have actually lived under this regime.

Protesters have been out in the streets for months pleading for intervention from Trump. They have set aside the fact that Israel has long been considered an enemy state once they saw the regime open fire on its own people and make thousands of men disappear. They came to see who the real enemy was.
 
Mockingbird said:
We have all seen the regime ‘planning’ today. Couldn’t save the Khamenei despite all the advance warnings.

Israel is capable of taking out anybody.
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Agreed. It's all very easy to have a superbly planned succession on paper but after 36 years of power in one man's hands, it's never going to be smooth in real life. Many factors including the preferences of the revolutionary guard, the regular army, the civilian leadership and the Shura council will come into play.

Khamenei himself was not the logical person to take over when Khomeini died. Montazeri was. The constitution had to be modified to allow someone who was neither a Marja nor even an Ayatollah to take over as Supreme Leader.
 
Devadwal said:
Dubai airport, iconic Burj Al Arab hotel damaged in Iranian missile strikes. :kp

www.reuters.com

Dubai airport, iconic Burj Al Arab hotel damaged in Iranian missile strikes

Dubai's international airport and its landmark Burj Al Arab hotel sustained damage as overnight Iranian retaliatory attacks spread across the Gulf states and the wider Middle East, reaching beyond U.S. bases and interests.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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Bro come on now, no need to celebrate a country getting bombed....Plenty of ppl from the sub continent live and work there also.
 
Tera Gawaandi said:
My Iranian coworker’s mother was shot in the leg during the recent protests. He’s an only child, and the poor guy couldn’t even leave Canada to be with his parents because he fears he would be killed if he returned.

I’ve never met a single pro-regime Iranian in Canada, so I am not sure where the support for the regime in this thread, especially among some Pakistani posters, is coming from. I doubt many of you are dual citizens who have actually lived under this regime.

Protesters have been out in the streets for months pleading for intervention from Trump. They have set aside the fact that Israel has long been considered an enemy state once they saw the regime open fire on its own people and make thousands of men disappear. They came to see who the real enemy was.
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Exactly. I have an Iranian neighbor and he had no love lost for the regime either. Easier to say that ‘we support a dictator due to religion’ or ‘him being friendly to our nation’ when you are not actually living under that dictatorship. Lot of Iranians will be celebrating today that Ayatollah is gone.
 
Mockingbird said:
Exactly. I have an Iranian neighbor and he had no love lost for the regime either. Easier to say that ‘we support a dictator due to religion’ or ‘him being friendly to our nation’ when you are not actually living under that dictatorship. Lot of Iranians will be celebrating today that Ayatollah is gone.
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One of my ex-bosses is Iranian - was a kid when his parents came over to the States after the revolution. His parents are rabidly anti the current Iranian regime but he's actually surprisingly reasonable. Acknowledges that outside Teheran and maybe a couple of the larger cities, Iran is very conservative and would be very against any major change.

I was texting with him early this morning and he was telling me he was in touch with relatives and while there have been wild celebrations in isolated pockets of Teheran, most of the country is still in shock and things could swing any which way.
 
There's reams and reams of pages compiled here on all things Iran. So, I am pretty sure there must have been a thread regarding - how deep, intense, methodical, painfully incisive Israeli intelligence has developed their networks and assets deep within Iran.

Starting from Khameini, Qasem Soleimani (in 2017) - if I start writing down the names of significant Iranian military leaders, nuclear scientists and others who are connected to the regime who got assassinated- this will end up being hundreds of pages.

All this to say - Mossad has been having an absolute field day inside Iran for well over a decade now.

It is next to impossible for some of the high profile assassinations (there was an automatic gun mounted on the back of a pickup truck ala Breaking Bad that took out a nuclear scientist) that got pulled off without significant support from well within Iran i.,e disgruntled but highly motivated elements against the Iranian regime.

For any close observer of the structural weaknesses inside Iran that were exploited by Israeli, US intelligence agencies - these assassinations should not come as a surprise at all.
 
And while i am content that the oppressed may In ShaAllah be free, those innocent girls dying in school along with many innocents and the dog Netanyahu, the war criminal still roaming free, feels vindicated enough to carry out part of this attack makes me sick.

So do not think this was done for the concerns of the Irani people.
 
Tera Gawaandi said:
My Iranian coworker’s mother was shot in the leg during the recent protests. He’s an only child, and the poor guy couldn’t even leave Canada to be with his parents because he fears he would be killed if he returned.

I’ve never met a single pro-regime Iranian in Canada, so I am not sure where the support for the regime in this thread, especially among some Pakistani posters, is coming from. I doubt many of you are dual citizens who have actually lived under this regime.

Protesters have been out in the streets for months pleading for intervention from Trump. They have set aside the fact that Israel has long been considered an enemy state once they saw the regime open fire on its own people and make thousands of men disappear. They came to see who the real enemy was.
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Hard to quantify the support or opposition. Iranians are really staunch in their support on either side so a nuanced understanding is quite hard to guage. I've only ever ( in the UK or abroad) met hardcore securalists ( weirdest people from any country) or staunch Shia supporters. We don't really know what the average man believes - it will obviously be something between the satan that the secularists put forward and the divinely appointed leader that the religious people believe, but where between these two extremes the majority of the Iranian people's opinion lies is really just an unknown.

It's probably at this point that the Son of the Shah should announce his intention to return now and see if their is enough support on the ground to make this a reality.
 
Suleiman said:
And while i am content that the oppressed may In ShaAllah be free, those innocent girls dying in school along with many innocents and the dog Netanyahu, the war criminal still roaming free, feels vindicated enough to carry out part of this attack makes me sick.

So do not think this was done for the concerns of the Irani people.
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Why ?????? :kp
 
leonidas_alexandar said:
There's reams and reams of pages compiled here on all things Iran. So, I am pretty sure there must have been a thread regarding - how deep, intense, methodical, painfully incisive Israeli intelligence has developed their networks and assets deep within Iran.

Starting from Khameini, Qasem Soleimani (in 2017) - if I start writing down the names of significant Iranian military leaders, nuclear scientists and others who are connected to the regime who got assassinated- this will end up being hundreds of pages.

All this to say - Mossad has been having an absolute field day inside Iran for well over a decade now.

It is next to impossible for some of the high profile assassinations (there was an automatic gun mounted on the back of a pickup truck ala Breaking Bad that took out a nuclear scientist) that got pulled off without significant support from well within Iran i.,e disgruntled but highly motivated elements against the Iranian regime.

For any close observer of the structural weaknesses inside Iran that were exploited by Israeli, US intelligence agencies - these assassinations should not come as a surprise at all.
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Regardless of systems when you have a ruler in place for 30+ years there is bound to be disgruntled elements.

Add crippling sanctions, economic stagnation, and the oppressive nature of the state to that, lack of cohesive national/ political identity and you have conditions that are quite easily exploitable.
 
Tera Gawaandi said:
My Iranian coworker’s mother was shot in the leg during the recent protests. He’s an only child, and the poor guy couldn’t even leave Canada to be with his parents because he fears he would be killed if he returned.

I’ve never met a single pro-regime Iranian in Canada, so I am not sure where the support for the regime in this thread, especially among some Pakistani posters, is coming from. I doubt many of you are dual citizens who have actually lived under this regime.

Protesters have been out in the streets for months pleading for intervention from Trump. They have set aside the fact that Israel has long been considered an enemy state once they saw the regime open fire on its own people and make thousands of men disappear. They came to see who the real enemy was.
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You misunderstood, this isn’t support for the regime, it’s a condemnation of one nation being allowed to bomb without consequences. I guess the utopia promised since WWII by the UN never truly existed.

I’ve yet to meet any Iranian in Canada or the US who identifies as Muslim.
 
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