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Iran fires multiple ballistic missiles towards Israel as a retaliatory measure for its insane actions

And why do you think that is ?

Did Israel just suddenly wake up one day and say - hmmm I'm bored, lets go kill some Iranian scientists .

For the same reason Americans nuked the Japs. Get them before they ever get strong enough to be a threat to us.
 
Iran isn't a massive super power. It will still look naive on their part if a full blown war was to take place now between Israel and Iran.

In today’s age Iran has the hypersonic weapons to destroy Israel . I think the Iranians have lost patience with the settler outpost now. They are also backed by Russia & China.

Iran will be in ruins but so will the whole world . Once they start targeting Yankee bases in the Middle East , damage oil facilities, close shipping routes etc the worlds economy will be in tatters, possibly ending various paper currencies.

IMO Iran should do this , bring the world into a dark economy. Remember white westerners cry if they run out to f bread & milk. Once they become hungry , they will force their puppet governments to change course from self harm in because of supporting squatters
 
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Hezbollah and Hamas proxies of Iran have been firing rockets on Israel indiscriminately for years now. If that was done to a US official it would be seen as an act of war. See how it plays out ?

Thats why all teams need to set their egos aside and get to the table to discuss. Easier said than done I suppose. I personally certainly dont want to see my US taxpayer funds for any foreign conflicts and rather be used for domestic economy and growth.

At least attain some basic education in this subject.

Hezbollah only came into existence due to the occupation of Beirut in the 80s .

People resist occupation & those attacking their home , even if you would submit . Pls don’t judge others by your moral standards
 
For the same reason Americans nuked the Japs. Get them before they ever get strong enough to be a threat to us.

Is that why the Americans nuked Japanese ?

Aren't you forgetting one tiny preceding incident called Pearl Harbour....
 
Is that why the Americans nuked Japanese ?

Aren't you forgetting one tiny preceding incident called Pearl Harbour....

I'm sure you must have been following the threads on Iran over the last few months. The consensus has generally been that israel has been hitting them hard for a long time now, either with covert strikes, attacks on their leading officials inside and outside of Iran, and that Iran has generally provided a very tame response. They've been mocked on here for it for quite some time, you can't have missed it. So now when they finally launch a significant response, they are the ones who are escalating? :unsure:
 
In today’s age Iran has the hypersonic weapons to destroy Israel . I think the Iranians have lost patience with the settler outpost now . They are also backed by Russia & China .

Iran will be in ruins but so will the whole world . Once they start targeting Yankee bases in the Middle East , damage oil facilities, close shipping routes etc the worlds economy will be in tatters, possibly ending various paper currencies.

IMO Iran should do this , bring the world into a dark economy. Remember white westerners cry if they run out to f bread & milk. Once they become hungry , they will force their puppet governments to change course from self harm in because of supporting squatters
I don't think it's all that black and white. There's a lot of gray in there. Our belief also tells us about Antichrist rising in Iran.
Whenever that starts happening, there will be years of tribulations and bloody wars sadly.
 
At least attain some basic education in this subject.

Hezbollah only came into existence due to the occupation of Beirut in the 80s .

People resist occupation & those attacking their home , even if you would submit . Pls don’t judge others by your moral standards
Hezbollah is a designated terror group. There is no justification to that.

Plenty of displaced communities like Hindu Sindhis, Kashmiri Pandits, Parsis were displaced but they built their community by becoming scientists, professionals, administrators and businessmen not terrorists.
 
Hezbollah is a designated terror group. There is no justification to that.

Plenty of displaced communities like Hindu Sindhis, Kashmiri Pandits, Parsis were displaced but they built their community by becoming scientists, professionals, administrators and businessmen not terrorists.

Most of the world sees them as freedom fighters.

Sure that’s why Indian soldiers are being killed to this day in occupied Kashmir /

you may accept occupation but most humans have self respect
 
I don't think it's all that black and white. There's a lot of gray in there. Our belief also tells us about Antichrist rising in Iran.
Whenever that starts happening, there will be years of tribulations and bloody wars sadly.

Iran the only nation to slap the Zionist squatters . Their missiles were very clear . The anti Christ is a Jew , not from Iran bro
 
Most of the world sees them as freedom fighters.

Sure that’s why Indian soldiers are being killed to this day in occupied Kashmir /

you may accept occupation but most humans have self respect
Self respect can also be I will become somebody and get my family out of poverty and give them a better life. Doesn’t have to be I will blow a bunch of stuff up with civilians around.
 
I'm sure you must have been following the threads on Iran over the last few months. The consensus has generally been that israel has been hitting them hard for a long time now, either with covert strikes, attacks on their leading officials inside and outside of Iran, and that Iran has generally provided a very tame response. They've been mocked on here for it for quite some time, you can't have missed it. So now when they finally launch a significant response, they are the ones who are escalating? :unsure:

Iran are the masters behind the creation of two terror organisations Hamas and Hezbollah who threaten the very existence of a tiny Jewish state that lives amidst an ocean of Arab Muslim states..

Why wouldn't Israel go after Iran with covert strikes and assassinations ?
 
Iran warns of ‘unconventional response’ in case of new Israeli attack

Iran has told the United States via an intermediary that any Israeli attack against Iran would meet an “unconventional response” that includes targeting Israeli infrastructure.

In exclusive remarks to Al Jazeera, an Iranian official said on Thursday that his country has sent a message to the US, via Qatar, addressing rising regional tensions after Iran’s missile attack on Israel.

In the message, Tehran told Washington that “the phase of unilateral self-restraint has ended”, adding that “individual self-restraint does not secure our national security requirements”.

The indirect message also emphasised that Iran does not want a regional war, the official said.


 
Iran the only nation to slap the Zionist squatters . Their missiles were very clear . The anti Christ is a Jew , not from Iran bro

There is a Hadith that says the following:

The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls. (Sahih Muslim 2944; https://sunnah.com/muslim:2944).

Isfahan is a city in Iran.

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Is Dajjal going to be an ethnic Iranian Jew or would he have another ethnicity? I am not quite clear about this; I need to dig deep. Is this the reason why Israel wants to invade Iran?

Allah (SWT) knows best. We are living in interesting times.
 
Iran missile attack killed only one person and that too a Palestinian . Lol

Most of these missile was destroy by Israel or just garbage .
Iran the only nation to slap the Zionist squatters . Their missiles were very clear . The anti Christ is a Jew , not from Iran bro
 
At least attain some basic education in this subject.

Hezbollah only came into existence due to the occupation of Beirut in the 80s .

People resist occupation & those attacking their home , even if you would submit . Pls don’t judge others by your moral standards
I know the history- maybe you should gain some knowledge and refresh. Its a terrorist organization with radical Islamic terrorists. You can color it or paint it any way you want - doesn't change the fact. And yes- i have no moral standards for any terrorist organization ( and yes- before you say that would include any designated Christian or hindu or Buddhist etc terrorist organizations no matter what religion)
 
Iran missile attack killed only one person and that too a Palestinian . Lol

Most of these missile was destroy by Israel or just garbage .
Your way of thinking sums up the mindset of the occupier and aggressor. You are laughing because only one person was killed and it’s even funnier to you because it was a Palestinian. Iran didn’t intend to murder thousands of innocent women and children, they targeted military installations and infrastructure. The fact that you consider wins to be the number of people killed is grotesque and void of any human decency.
 
There is a Hadith that says the following:

The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls. (Sahih Muslim 2944; https://sunnah.com/muslim:2944).

Isfahan is a city in Iran.

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Is Dajjal going to be an ethnic Iranian Jew or would he have another ethnicity? I am not quite clear about this; I need to dig deep. Is this the reason why Israel wants to invade Iran?

Allah (SWT) knows best. We are living in interesting times.
Why does religion have to be inserted into everything?? So non muslims have no right to live? What sort of twisted logic is that? No wonder israel feels threatened by views like yours. Views like yours automatically rule out a 1 state solution. Just imagine a 1 state solution and then muslims become the majority over jews.. Am all for a peaceful solution with no violence and bloodshed whatsoever but with views like yours peach becomes so difficult to achieve
 
Your way of thinking sums up the mindset of the occupier and aggressor. You are laughing because only one person was killed and it’s even funnier to you because it was a Palestinian. Iran didn’t intend to murder thousands of innocent women and children, they targeted military installations and infrastructure. The fact that you consider wins to be the number of people killed is grotesque and void of any human decency.
Exactly and thats how it should be . But a lot of posters didn't say the same when oct 7 hamas attacked happened. Infact they justified that hamas attack saying thats what Israel and jews deserved. So different folks- different rules ??
 
Iran missile attack killed only one person and that too a Palestinian . Lol

Most of these missile was destroy by Israel or just garbage .
If it had killed innocent kids then you’d be calling them barbaric.

I guess Hindutva and Zio measure the success by the number of kids murdered and shot in the head by the snipers.
 
Exactly and thats how it should be . But a lot of posters didn't say the same when oct 7 hamas attacked happened. Infact they justified that hamas attack saying thats what Israel and jews deserved. So different folks- different rules ??
Sure some did but why are you gloating about kids getting point blank in the head?

sick
 
Stop lecturing me about fake humanity. I know where it’s coming from.
Well, obviously it’s going to seem fake to the Hindutva crowd,you know, the folks who deny anyone’s right to push back against a colonial outpost, all because of one thing: their hand-me-down tradition of good ol’ bigotry, also known as Hindutva!

Not trying to give a lecture here, just genuinely curious, how does a second-generation brown person, post-independence, end up backing the last colonial outpost? I mean, what’s the thought process there? I guess we already know the answer 😉
 
Well, obviously it’s going to seem fake to the Hindutva crowd,you know, the folks who deny anyone’s right to push back against a colonial outpost, all because of one thing: their hand-me-down tradition of good ol’ bigotry, also known as Hindutva!

Not trying to give a lecture here, just genuinely curious, how does a second-generation brown person, post-independence, end up backing the last colonial outpost? I mean, what’s the thought process there? I guess we already know the answer 😉
Fake humanity sum up here.
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Exactly and thats how it should be . But a lot of posters didn't say the same when oct 7 hamas attacked happened. Infact they justified that hamas attack saying thats what Israel and jews deserved. So different folks- different rules ??
Yes it should. I don’t know who was gloating when Oct 7th happened. It was terrible however, it’s also convenient to start history on Oct 7th and forget the decades long persecution, murder, and ethnic cleansing at the hands of Israel that goes much further back.
 
Sure some did but why are you gloating about kids getting point blank in the head?

sick
Where did I gloat ?? Have you seen my posts ? Have always said war should be the last option and any bloodshed is such a waste and parties should talk and negotiate. Unlike posters here advocating for full on war and wiping off Israel etc..
 
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Yes it should. I don’t know who was gloating when Oct 7th happened. It was terrible however, it’s also convenient to start history on Oct 7th and forget the decades long persecution, murder, and ethnic cleansing at the hands of Israel that goes much further back.

The funniest reply is from those who deny the right to resist is, it is a “complicated”issue.

And as if October 6th, 5th….never existed.

Been saying, If Bhagat Singh had stood up for people of Palestine or even colonist then he'd be called Khalistani or whatever by the Hindutva brigade.
 
The funniest reply is from those who deny the right to resist is, it is a “complicated”issue.

And as if October 6th, 5th….never existed.

Been saying, If Bhagat Singh had stood up for people of Palestine or even colonist then he'd be called Khalistani or whatever by the Hindutva brigade.
Saying things are complicated is just a way to get away from discussing the truth. In the long and miserable history of Israeli occupation, Oct 7th is a blip on the radar but it’s made out as if it was the start of this “war.” Now before some posters get all up in arms and say see, you devalue Jewish lives, no I’m not. Oct 7th was terrible for everyone involved but events like that are a result of the illegal occupation. I don’t wish to see anything like that again, but unfortunately Palestinians see it daily, now the Lebanese are seeing it, hundreds have died yet nobody bats an eye.
 
Where did I gloat ?? Have you seen my posts ? Have always said war should be the last option and any bloodshed is such a waste and parties should talk and negotiate. Unlike posters here advocating for full on war and wiping off Israel etc..
Scroll up 😃
 
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I know the history- maybe you should gain some knowledge and refresh. Its a terrorist organization with radical Islamic terrorists. You can color it or paint it any way you want - doesn't change the fact. And yes- i have no moral standards for any terrorist organization ( and yes- before you say that would include any designated Christian or hindu or Buddhist etc terrorist organizations no matter what religion)

You ignored the point .

Hezbollah only came into existence in order to resist occupation.

Acc to some fools resistance to occupation is terrorism lol
 
There is a Hadith that says the following:

The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls. (Sahih Muslim 2944; https://sunnah.com/muslim:2944).

Isfahan is a city in Iran.

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Is Dajjal going to be an ethnic Iranian Jew or would he have another ethnicity? I am not quite clear about this; I need to dig deep. Is this the reason why Israel wants to invade Iran?

Allah (SWT) knows best. We are living in interesting times.

IMO will be Israeli &
Followed by Jews from all over inc Iran.

But we can’t take Iran as some sort of supporter due to this Hadith . Iranians may be Shia but are doing more for Palestinians than the all Sunnis put together
 
Iran's Supreme Leader: 'Israel Won't Last Long'

The Islamic Republic's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei said Israel "won't last long" as he reaffirmed the Palestinian "right" to stand up against Israel in his first sermon in five years.

Khamenei backed the Palestinian and Lebanese movements against Israel while addressing thousands of supporters at a mosque in Tehran.

He defended the October 7 attack, saying that "no court or international organization has the right to object to the Palestinian nation for resisting the Zionist regime."

Khamenei also declared that it is "legitimate" for others to support the Palestinian and Lebanese people.

He emphasized that Iran will "not delay or rush to perform its duties."

Khameini defended the October 7 attack by Hamas on Israel and called it a "legitimate act."

The last time Khamenei led the prayers was after the killing of Qasem Soleimani, commander of the Revolutionary Guards expeditionary Quds Force, in a US airstrike on Baghdad.

Khamenei has reaffirmed the Palestinian “right” to stand up to Israel.

“The Palestinian nation has the right, in the face of the enemy that has usurped its soil, they have the right to stand up against that.”

“Their defence is legitimate, and helping them is legitimate as well.”

"The Palestinian people must determine the fate of their own country, and no court or international organization has the right to object to the Palestinian nation for standing up against the Zionist regime," he said.

"Similarly, those who are helping the people of Palestine and Lebanon should not be criticized for providing support, as it is their duty.

"No one, by any logic, has the right to object to Hezbollah in Lebanon for supporting the Palestinian people's uprising.

"It is their duty, and this is both an international and global logic, as well as a Quranic one. The defense of the Palestinians is legitimate, and supporting them is also legitimate," he added.

Khamenei justified Iran’s missile strikes on Israel on Tuesday, saying "the move taken by our armed forces was the least punishment in the face of the crimes of the Zionist regime."

He went on to refer to Israel as a "bloodthirsty", and a "rabid dog."

In his Friday prayer sermon, Ali Khamenei said, "The enemy of the Iranian nation is the same as the enemy of Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, and Syria."

He added the "command center" is in one place, even if in one country it operates with a "two-tonne bomb" and in another with "psychological warfare."

He further said that Muslim nations must first confront their enemies and reaffirm the Palestinian “right” to stand up, saying, “Their defense is legitimate, and helping them is also legitimate.”

"Today, we must fasten the belt of defense and the pursuit of independence, from Afghanistan to Yemen, and from Iran to Gaza and Lebanon, and across all Islamic countries," he added.

"The Islamic Republic will do whatever is necessary in this regard with strength and decisiveness. In fulfilling this duty, we will neither delay nor act hastily.

"Whatever is logical, reasonable, and correct will be carried out in its due time, as decided by military and political leaders, and if necessary in the future, it will be done again," he warned.

"The vile and cowardly enemy, unable to inflict serious harm on the strong organizations of Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, or other jihadist groups fighting for the sake of God, considers terrorism, destruction, bombings, and the killing of civilians as marks of their victory," he said.

"What is the result? The outcome of this behavior is the accumulation of rage, the increase in people's motivation, and the emergence of more men, commanders, leaders, and self-sacrificing individuals, tightening the siege around the bloodthirsty wolf. Ultimately, this will lead to the disgraceful elimination of its existence from the world stage," he added.

Khamenei’s appearance today was announced earlier this week by Iranian state media – in a nod to heightened regional tensions in the Middle East after the Israeli killing of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and the October 1st Iranian ballistic missile attack on Israel.

"The reliance of the U.S. and its allies on maintaining the security of the usurping regime serves as a cover for their deadly policy of turning the regime into a tool to control all the resources of this region and use them in major global conflicts," Khamenei said.

"Their policy is to make the regime a gateway for exporting energy from the region to the Western world and importing goods and technology from the West to the region, which essentially guarantees the existence of the usurping regime and the dependency of the entire region on it," he added.

"This reality makes it clear to us that every blow to the regime, from anyone or any group, is a service to the entire region, and even to all of humanity. Certainly, this Zionist and American dream is a false and impossible fantasy," he said.

"The main factor behind war, insecurity, and underdevelopment in this region is the existence of the Zionist regime and the presence of governments that claim to seek peace and tranquility in the region. The major problem of the region is foreign interference. The countries in this region are capable of establishing peace and security," he added.

"The Al-Aqsa Storm and the year-long resistance of Gaza and Lebanon have brought the usurping regime to a point where its primary concern is preserving its existence - that is the same concern this regime had in the early years of its evil birth. This means that the struggle of the brave fighters of Palestine and Lebanon has managed to set the Zionist regime back seventy years," he said.

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian has said he will attend the Friday prayers gathering.

The prayer will follow a “commemoration ceremony” for Nasrallah.

The IRGC said Tuesday’s barrage of almost 200 missiles were in retaliation for Israel’s killing of Nasrallah alongside Guards commander Abbas Nilforoushan in a late September strike on Beirut, and of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran in July.

SOURCE: https://iranwire.com/en/news/134640-irans-supreme-leader-israel-wont-last-long/
 
I think Israel will hit Iran today or tomorrow now that their New Year is over.
 
I think Israel will hit Iran today or tomorrow now that their New Year is over.
Maybe waiting for 7 October ? Anniversary of deadly attack by Hamas

One things is 100% sure that they will hit iran but it can take some time for choosing the Possible target of attack.
 
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Maybe waiting for 7 October ? Anniversary of deadly attack by Hamas

One things is 100% sure that they will hit iran but it can take some time for choosing the Possible target of attack.
I don't think there's any specific date attached but it'll take a while. There'll be a lot of consultation with the US to choose the most strategic target without actually causing a Chernobyl/Fukushima type disaster.
 
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Offcourse,that will be surprised attack . Yes without USA/ UK consultation they won't attack .it will be coordinated attack.
Yeah Iran doesn't really have any missile defence so it's a question of how deep underground they've buried their stuff. Their counter intelligence has been shown to be worthless after Israel was able to locate the specific room Haniyeh stayed in and attack it so I'm assuming the strategic targets are an open book and it's really a question of choosing the appropriate one carefully without causing too much collateral damage.

My bet is on their main missile command center and any backups they may have. Israel and US priority will be to remove capability to co-ordinate a strike on the regions oil refineries and other such facilities.
 
Maybe waiting for 7 October ? Anniversary of deadly attack by Hamas terrorist.

One things is 100% sure that they will hit iran but it can take some time for choosing the Possible target of attack.
This conflict phase is not related to October 7.

If you read between the lines Israel has basically abandoned the hostages and deliberately opened up another front elsewhere.

They won't want to draw attention as their public will likely be demonstrating for the return of the hostages.and wondering why they are attacking Iran instead of Gaza.
 
Yeah Iran doesn't really have any missile defence so it's a question of how deep underground they've buried their stuff. Their counter intelligence has been shown to be worthless after Israel was able to locate the specific room Haniyeh stayed in and attack it so I'm assuming the strategic targets are an open book and it's really a question of choosing the strategic one carefully without causing too much collateral damage.

My bet is on the their main missile command center and any backups they may have. Israel and US priority will be to remove capability to co-ordinate a strike on the regions oil refineries and other such facilities.
they have S-300 and i think Russia delivered them S-400 also but no-one know about S-400 delivery.

Iran has asked Russia for cooperation with satellite intelligence ahead of an Israeli strike according to New York Times
 
they have S-300 and i think Russia delivered them S-400 also but no-one know about S-400 delivery.

Iran has asked Russia for cooperation with satellite intelligence ahead of an Israeli strike according to New York Times
going by the debacle in Ukraine, I really dont have much faith in Russian defense tech anymore.
 
This conflict phase is not related to October 7.

If you read between the lines Israel has basically abandoned the hostages and deliberately opened up another front elsewhere.

They won't want to draw attention as their public will likely be demonstrating for the return of the hostages.and wondering why they are attacking Iran instead of Gaza.
Hezbollah has forced displacement of nearly 100,000 Israelis from the northern part of the country and its been an year. How long can a country have refugees within itself?
Hezbollah invited the attack from Israel and Iran is just butting in from far off.
Has Pakistan launched an attack on Israel?
 
This conflict phase is not related to October 7.

If you read between the lines Israel has basically abandoned the hostages and deliberately opened up another front elsewhere.

They won't want to draw attention as their public will likely be demonstrating for the return of the hostages.and wondering why they are attacking Iran instead of Gaza.
That's true. The Lebanon front has very little to do with revenge for the October 7 attack except peripherally i.e. they were mildly interfering in Israel's all out destruction of Gaza.

The language used in Israel 'limited invasion' into Lebanon feels a lot like Russia's 'military operation' in Ukraine - poorly conceived and no clear end goal. This has the potential to end up as much of a long term disaster for them as it has been for Russia. A long term money drain and human meat trap with no easy way to declare victory and pull out.
 
Hezbollah has forced displacement of nearly 100,000 Israelis from the northern part of the country and its been an year. How long can a country have refugees within itself?
Hezbollah invited the attack from Israel and Iran is just butting in from far off.
Has Pakistan launched an attack on Israel?
I'm not sure what Pakistan has to do with what I was discussing with Devadwal not does any of your post actually have anything to do with what I was saying.
 
That's true. The Lebanon front has very little to do with revenge for the October 7 attack except peripherally i.e. they were mildly interfering in Israel's all out destruction of Gaza.

The language used in Israel 'limited invasion' into Lebanon feels a lot like Russia's 'military operation' in Ukraine - poorly conceived and no clear end goal. This has the potential to end up as much of a long term disaster for them as it has been for Russia. A long term money drain and human meat trap with no easy way to declare victory and pull out.

There are reports NasrAllah has agreed to a ceasefire but the Israelis killed him anyway. The same with the Hamas leader in Iran.

The original war objectives (return of hostages) have failed no matter how you look at it. After 1 year the majority of hostages have been killed or are still in captivity.

To cover up the failure they have widened the net.

If you follow alternative media the on ground situation in Lebanon does appear to be a human meat trap
 
Hezbollah has forced displacement of nearly 100,000 Israelis from the northern part of the country and its been an year. How long can a country have refugees within itself?
Hezbollah invited the attack from Israel and Iran is just butting in from far off.
Has Pakistan launched an attack on Israel?
Hezbollah just did what it always does. Fire some random missiles in pretend solidarity with Palestine without doing anything major. Just in more volume than usual because of the context. Israel could've easily played it down and gotten past it without turning it into a costly ground invasion. India and Pakistan kept artillery firing against each other for ages. Neither was so stupid as to turn it into a bigger crisis.

I have a feeling Israel is going to regret the assassination of Nasrallah. He was a hothead when he was younger but had evolved into a more typical pragmatic politician like Arafat with more hot air than actual actions. His statement after the 2006 conflict (when they captured a few Israeli soldiers and Israel retaliated brutally) is very telling

"We do not think, even one percent, that the capture led to a war at this time and of this magnitude. I'm convinced and sure that this war was planned and that the capture of these hostages was just their excuse to start their pre-planned war, but if I had known on July 11... that the operation would lead to such a war, would I do it? I say no, absolutely not"

Now it's not sure who will emerge next and what will be long term equation. One thing's for sure - Israel cannot stay as an occupying force in this hostile territory too long without taking huge human losses.
 
There are reports NasrAllah has agreed to a ceasefire but the Israelis killed him anyway. The same with the Hamas leader in Iran.

The original war objectives (return of hostages) have failed no matter how you look at it. After 1 year the majority of hostages have been killed or are still in captivity.

To cover up the failure they have widened the net.

If you follow alternative media the on ground situation in Lebanon does appear to be a human meat trap
No doubt about it. Unfortunately for the region (and of course the world's) long term stability, Israel seems to now be waging the war for the sake of war - basically as a political gambit by Netanyahu rather than with clear strategic end goals. Maybe there are some deep in Israel's strategic thinktank but nothing obvious to any of the very smart commentators I follow.
 
Hezbollah just did what it always does. Fire some random missiles in pretend solidarity with Palestine without doing anything major. Just in more volume than usual because of the context. Israel could've easily played it down and gotten past it without turning it into a costly ground invasion. India and Pakistan kept artillery firing against each other for ages. Neither was so stupid as to turn it into a bigger crisis.

I have a feeling Israel is going to regret the assassination of Nasrallah. He was a hothead when he was younger but had evolved into a more typical pragmatic politician like Arafat with more hot air than actual actions. His statement after the 2006 conflict (when they captured a few Israeli soldiers and Israel retaliated brutally) is very telling



Now it's not sure who will emerge next and what will be long term equation. One thing's for sure - Israel cannot stay as an occupying force in this hostile territory too long without taking huge human losses.
India Pakistan shelling does not lead to internal displacement of lakhs of people for almost an year.
Israel was losing the PR battle hence this diversion of news from Gaza helps them and also highlights the sheer impotence of these so called "resistance regimes" when faced with traditional warfare. They are only good for terror strikes and causing chaos but cannot face a well trained military.

Looking at the all the chaos, Pakistan Army truly deserve to be recognized as the best Military from the Islamic world.
 
India Pakistan shelling does not lead to internal displacement of lakhs of people for almost an year.
Israel was losing the PR battle hence this diversion of news from Gaza helps them and also highlights the sheer impotence of these so called "resistance regimes" when faced with traditional warfare. They are only good for terror strikes and causing chaos but cannot face a well trained military.

Looking at the all the chaos, Pakistan Army truly deserve to be recognized as the best Military from the Islamic world.
It led to displacement of a lot more than a lakh people and for a lot longer than a year. Actual casualties were higher on both sides as well.

2016–2018 India–Pakistan border skirmishes

In the end, you've got to chose your battles. Fighting for bravado or to "highlights the sheer impotence of these so called "resistance regimes" when faced with traditional warfare." is pointless. Everyone knows (well maybe except for a few wierdos on this site who keep talking about mysterious weapons) that Hezbollah was only good at unconventional stuff and of no relevance in conventional warfare. Not sure what Israel achieved there

1. Exposing their tendrils into Hezbollah - the pagers & walkie-talkies indicated a deep intelligence penetration into the inner layers of the organisation that's now laid bare and could be lost in the purge.
2. Killing Nasrallah, who though an extremist was at least a pragmatic populist who also had responsibility to run a quasi-government in South Lebanon
3. Sending ground troops into Lebanon and exposing them to ugly urban warfare without any clear end goal.
 
It led to displacement of a lot more than a lakh people and for a lot longer than a year. Actual casualties were higher on both sides as well.

2016–2018 India–Pakistan border skirmishes

In the end, you've got to chose your battles. Fighting for bravado or to "highlights the sheer impotence of these so called "resistance regimes" when faced with traditional warfare." is pointless. Everyone knows (well maybe except for a few wierdos on this site who keep talking about mysterious weapons) that Hezbollah was only good at unconventional stuff and of no relevance in conventional warfare. Not sure what Israel achieved there

1. Exposing their tendrils into Hezbollah - the pagers & walkie-talkies indicated a deep intelligence penetration into the inner layers of the organisation that's now laid bare and could be lost in the purge.
2. Killing Nasrallah, who though an extremist was at least a pragmatic populist who also had responsibility to run a quasi-government in South Lebanon
3. Sending ground troops into Lebanon and exposing them to ugly urban warfare without any clear end goal.
India and Pakistan are pretty large countries. The border skirmishes do not have the impact as it is for tiny countries like Lebanon and Israel. Combined population of Israel palestine and lebanon is less than the city of Mumbai.

A few lakh have significant say in the domestic politics of these small countries.
Hezbollah is not Lebanon, if you read more in details all these Islamic groups are rife with sectarian clashes among themselves and internal politics. Israel is just increasing the cost of supporting terror against itself.
 
IMO will be Israeli &
Followed by Jews from all over inc Iran.

But we can’t take Iran as some sort of supporter due to this Hadith . Iranians may be Shia but are doing more for Palestinians than the all Sunnis put together

Absolutely. Iran has been very gutsy and that is commandable.

Anyway, just wanted to point out the hadith.

The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls. (Sahih Muslim 2944; https://sunnah.com/muslim:2944).

It is possible Israel would invade Iran, occupy it for a brief period, and Dajjal would appear from there.

Allah (SWT) knows best.
 
Yes it should. I don’t know who was gloating when Oct 7th happened. It was terrible however, it’s also convenient to start history on Oct 7th and forget the decades long persecution, murder, and ethnic cleansing at the hands of Israel that goes much further back.
Nobody said it started oct 7th
Palestine rejected so many peace deals. Atleast get to the table. They lost 2 wars they started and now want everything. Twisted logic??
 
No need to scroll up. Never mentioned anything like you claim. No need for lies to cover up. For you anything is justified in the name of religion. Not for me.
For you anything is justified if Muslims are victim.

It's as clear as day.

You will pretend to be neutral on the topic of religion but soon enough your inner bigot comes roaring out.
 
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You ignored the point .

Hezbollah only came into existence in order to resist occupation.

Acc to some fools resistance to occupation is terrorism lol
Nobody ignored the post. Occupation? You lose the wars you start and claim victim mentality. If you lose a war- you accept and agree to a ceasefire and terms. Japan lost ww2 and agreed. Arafat rejected so many deals while he himself lived a lavish and a non pious life. And according to some fools resistance means kidnapping suicide bombing raping driving around in tricks firing ak47s in the air etc etc. Yup understood
 
No need to scroll up. Never mentioned anything like you claim. No need for lies to cover up. For you anything is justified in the name of religion. Not for me.
It would have been lot easier for you if you had scrolled.
 
All the BJP Indian posters who are cheering for Israeli attacks on civilians are big cowards.
 
I'm not sure what Pakistan has to do with what I was discussing with Devadwal not does any of your post actually have anything to do with what I was saying.

To be honest India has very little to do with Iran/Israel/Palestine but you will see them camped on these threads for some reason and in support of one side in particular. Of course this is the same for Pakistanis but then they are Muslims so they have religious obligation to care for their fellow Muslims. I wonder what is the hindutva obligation to care for the racist israeli state?
 
Iran are the masters behind the creation of two terror organisations Hamas and Hezbollah who threaten the very existence of a tiny Jewish state that lives amidst an ocean of Arab Muslim states..

Why wouldn't Israel go after Iran with covert strikes and assassinations ?

This point has already been answered by KKWC. Both organisations came into existence as resistance against occupation.
 
This point has already been answered by KKWC. Both organisations came into existence as resistance against occupation.

They're resistance fighters to you, terrorists for others.

My way of looking at this pretty simple. I look at which of the two parties've acted in good faith during this 70 year conflict. Like I said earlier, numerous peace plans have been put forward by Israel, all of which Palestine rejected. The latter have dug their own grave. Arrogance has cost them.
 
They're resistance fighters to you, terrorists for others.

My way of looking at this pretty simple. I look at which of the two parties've acted in good faith during this 70 year conflict. Like I said earlier, numerous peace plans have been put forward by Israel, all of which Palestine rejected. The latter have dug their own grave. Arrogance has cost them.

Those peace plans were worthless and gave stolen Palestinian lands to European colonists. The Palestinians were left with no option but to fight for their homes.
 
Those peace plans were worthless and gave stolen Palestinian lands to European colonists. The Palestinians were left with no option but to fight for their homes.
Come on dude, Indians know what Palestinians feel like, after all, 5000 years and still seeking an identity and homeland bodes well with Indians. Especially the ones the fled incredible India.
 
Those peace plans were worthless and gave stolen Palestinian lands to European colonists. The Palestinians were left with no option but to fight for their homes.

I see .. so you don't want the very state of Israel to exist in that region. You won't settle for anything less. #antisemitism
 
Yup repeat the same when you cant back up your false statements. Your standard procedure. Lie with impunity and then say scroll - understood.
Oh boy, where do we even start? There’s just so much to unpack here, it’s like opening a suitcase full of Hindutva bigotry, and every item screams "I hate Muslims!" louder than the last. I mean, seriously, it's become less of an ideology and more like genetic coding at this point, congrats on making intolerance your new family heirloom! Truly inspiring stuff.

And then you hit us with this beauty, "Oh, Iran's bombs only killed one person!" Well, bravo! What an achievement! Should we be handing out medals now to Israel because they killed thousands of innocent kids, women, elders and every Palestinian? Maybe a cake that says, "Congrats on your super-targeted murder spree!" Because yeah, nothing says failure like the fact that only one person got blown to bits. What’s next, throwing a parade for more killing of children point blank shot by the snipper?

The only colonial settler outpost is killing with impunity and lying about it is the one that you are supporting and defending it as descendent of those who fought against occupation in sub-continent.
 
Come on dude, Indians know what Palestinians feel like, after all, 5000 years and still seeking an identity and homeland bodes well with Indians. Especially the ones the fled incredible India.

It is pointless debating Palestine with Indians on here. You would be better discussing these issues with white Brits who don't have any skin in the game, hence many of the protestors against israeli genocide in Palestine include huge numbers of local Brits.
 
It is pointless debating Palestine with Indians on here. You would be better discussing these issues with white Brits who don't have any skin in the game, hence many of the protestors against israeli genocide in Palestine include huge numbers of local Brits.

I could flip that and say it's pointless debating Palestine with Pakistanis on here. You are simply not going take a position against the muslim side of any conflict. It is what it is.
 
Iran's leader defends strikes on Israel in rare public speech

Iran's missile strikes on Israel were "correct, logical, and lawful", Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told a vast crowd which had gathered to hear him speak in Tehran on Friday.

The country's supreme leader described the attack as the "minimum punishment" for what he called Israel's "astonishing crimes" while leading Friday prayers in the capital, something he has not done since 2020.

Khamenei's speech came three days after Iran fired nearly 200 missiles at Israel, in what it said was retaliation for the assassination of Hezbollah’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah.

The Farsi-speaking supreme leader delivered part of his speech in Arabic to address Palestinian and Lebanese supporters.

During his sermon, Khamenei praised Nasrallah and voiced support for Hamas and Hezbollah, which he said provided "vital service to the entire region and the entire Islamic world".

He said Iran-aligned armed groups "will not back down" in their conflict with Israel, which entered a new phase after Hamas launched deadly raids into Israel almost one year ago.

Iran is the main backer of Hezbollah and Hamas, as well as other armed groups around the Middle East which have attacked Israel. They often dub themselves the "Axis of Resistance".

In recent weeks, several senior leaders of Iran-backed groups and Iran's powerful military wing, the Revolutionary Guards, have been killed in Israeli strikes or presumed Israeli assassinations.

The supreme leader's appearance in front of a crowd of tens of thousands in Tehran is a sign of the gravity of the moment for the Iranian regime, which is facing widespread domestic discontent.

It could be read as an attempt to show strength and restore Iran’s credibility as leader of the “Axis of Resistance”.

The public appearance was also intended to show that Khamenei is not in hiding, after reports emerged that he had been taken to a secure location following Nasrallah's assassination.


 
So the Iron Dome not working? Made in Amreeka or India?

Call an Indian support centre and they'll tell Israel to reboot! 🤣🤣🤣
Iron Dome intercepted 90% of Iran’s missiles, with the remaining 10% Diwali crackers either landing in open space or causing some little damage. If Iran's 200 missiles had really hit their targets, the damage would have been much worse, but that didn’t happen.
On the other side, all of Israel’s missiles hit their targets with 100% accuracy, killing all their top leaders and hundreds of terrorists.

And yet, you're celebrating the minor damage that happened to Israel, while ignoring the 100% target damage to Iran.
Nice soothing technique. :facepalm:
 
Iran the only nation to slap the Zionist squatters . Their missiles were very clear . The anti Christ is a Jew , not from Iran bro
According to some narrations, he will first make himself known around Iran (Isfahan). So we can't be 100% sure.
Other nations are asleep as usual but we still don't know what's going on in Iran.
 
All the BJP Indian posters who are cheering for Israeli attacks on civilians are big cowards.
You opened a threads for Mughals contributions when they massacred Sikhs in huge numbers including the Gurus, so maybe check the mirror.
 
Iran's leader defends strikes on Israel in rare public speech

Iran's missile strikes on Israel were "correct, logical, and lawful", Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told a vast crowd which had gathered to hear him speak in Tehran on Friday.

The country's supreme leader described the attack as the "minimum punishment" for what he called Israel's "astonishing crimes" while leading Friday prayers in the capital, something he has not done since 2020.

Khamenei's speech came three days after Iran fired nearly 200 missiles at Israel, in what it said was retaliation for the assassination of Hezbollah’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah.

The Farsi-speaking supreme leader delivered part of his speech in Arabic to address Palestinian and Lebanese supporters.

During his sermon, Khamenei praised Nasrallah and voiced support for Hamas and Hezbollah, which he said provided "vital service to the entire region and the entire Islamic world".

He said Iran-aligned armed groups "will not back down" in their conflict with Israel, which entered a new phase after Hamas launched deadly raids into Israel almost one year ago.

Iran is the main backer of Hezbollah and Hamas, as well as other armed groups around the Middle East which have attacked Israel. They often dub themselves the "Axis of Resistance".

In recent weeks, several senior leaders of Iran-backed groups and Iran's powerful military wing, the Revolutionary Guards, have been killed in Israeli strikes or presumed Israeli assassinations.

The supreme leader's appearance in front of a crowd of tens of thousands in Tehran is a sign of the gravity of the moment for the Iranian regime, which is facing widespread domestic discontent.

It could be read as an attempt to show strength and restore Iran’s credibility as leader of the “Axis of Resistance”.

The public appearance was also intended to show that Khamenei is not in hiding, after reports emerged that he had been taken to a secure location following Nasrallah's assassination.


Defends what? Whom did they kill, biased reporting much?
 
Oh boy, where do we even start? There’s just so much to unpack here, it’s like opening a suitcase full of Hindutva bigotry, and every item screams "I hate Muslims!" louder than the last. I mean, seriously, it's become less of an ideology and more like genetic coding at this point, congrats on making intolerance your new family heirloom! Truly inspiring stuff.

And then you hit us with this beauty, "Oh, Iran's bombs only killed one person!" Well, bravo! What an achievement! Should we be handing out medals now to Israel because they killed thousands of innocent kids, women, elders and every Palestinian? Maybe a cake that says, "Congrats on your super-targeted murder spree!" Because yeah, nothing says failure like the fact that only one person got blown to bits. What’s next, throwing a parade for more killing of children point blank shot by the snipper?

The only colonial settler outpost is killing with impunity and lying about it is the one that you are supporting and defending it as descendent of those who fought against occupation in sub-continent.
There is no bigotry. Almost all countries which are muslim majority have islamic or sharia laws. So lets get that thing out of the way. No secularism there. But their nation -- their perspective, Again when in minority , want full secularism. When in majority - want islamic or sharia. SOP .

Never said Iran killed only 1 , again dont make false statements . Thats a fig of your imagination. Yeah this current cycle started by hamas terrorists and retaliation by Israel. So , why doesnt hamas get to the table to discuss ? Want to wipe off israel from the map - good luck with that. Both hamas and israel should get to the table, talk and stop this mindless bloodshed.

Regarding SC colonialism - those are past days and Ind and others are past it. Move on with modern times. The biggest invasion before them was from Persians, Mughals, Turks etc - yet Ind is good friends with Saudi Iran UAE etc etc .
 
Nobody said it started oct 7th
Palestine rejected so many peace deals. Atleast get to the table. They lost 2 wars they started and now want everything. Twisted logic??
That’s great then, you recognize the conflict goes back decades and is a result of illegal Israeli occupation and blatant violation of international law?

“Palestine rejected so many peace deals” is a very interesting statement. It implies that the “peace deals” were favourable and fair to Palestinians. There is a reason why they were “rejected.”
 
To be honest India has very little to do with Iran/Israel/Palestine but you will see them camped on these threads for some reason and in support of one side in particular. Of course this is the same for Pakistanis but then they are Muslims so they have religious obligation to care for their fellow Muslims. I wonder what is the hindutva obligation to care for the racist israeli state?
In the late 90's, the common sentiment (from newspapers and tv channels) was pro Palestine. However, the shift in sentiment happened probably because both hindus and jews are victims of islamic terrorism. The rise of right wing politics also coincided with this trend.
Iran and India maintain cordial relationship with each other in the last 30 years I know.
 
You opened a threads for Mughals contributions when they massacred Sikhs in huge numbers including the Gurus, so maybe check the mirror.

I highlighted Mughal contributions. I didn't support any alleged unjust killing. Also, Mughal period happened hundreds of years ago. That was a different period when warfares were more common.

You are not condemning Israeli bombings of civilians. Shame on you.

Now stop derailing the thread.
 
I highlighted Mughal contributions. I didn't support any alleged unjust killing. Also, Mughal period happened hundreds of years ago. That was a different period when warfares were more common.

You are not condemning Israeli bombings of civilians. Shame on you.
I have condemned Israeli bombings from October my posts are there for everyone to see, warfare was common? Don’t you follow religion from years ago?
If it was years ago why highlight their contribution, Zionists are doing exactly what Kingdoms and empires have done.

I can call our Ashoka as well you would’t call out Islamic kings or rulers itself obvious, go see the mirror now before talking about Indians.
 
I have condemned Israeli bombings from October my posts are there for everyone to see, warfare was common? Don’t you follow religion from years ago?
If it was years ago why highlight their contribution, Zionists are doing exactly what Kingdoms and empires have done.

Middle Age and current period aren't same.

Hundreds of years ago, warfares and conquests were very common. You can't compare current period with that period, unless you have mental health problems.
 
That’s great then, you recognize the conflict goes back decades and is a result of illegal Israeli occupation and blatant violation of international law?

“Palestine rejected so many peace deals” is a very interesting statement. It implies that the “peace deals” were favourable and fair to Palestinians. There is a reason why they were “rejected.”
It goes back decades to Palestine rejecting a 2 state deal in 1948 and "risked" everything by going to war with Israel and then lost. Similar in 1967. So " you" start a war, lose badly and then claim illegal occupation when you lose. Logic?? If you risk going to war and lose- you have to deal with consequences and agree to negotiated terms from a loss standpoint like japan did after ww2.

Nothing interesting in it. You cant lose a war you start and then say i want everything. If Palestine had won in 1948- they would have clained everything and jews would have been kicked out with islamic laws. So losers in a war who start it cant "reject ", they have to "accept "
 
Middle Age and current period aren't same.

Hundreds of years ago, warfares and conquests were very common. You can't compare current period with that period, unless you have mental health problems.
So people that follow religion from middle ages have mental health problems?
 
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