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Is Aamer Yamin the fast bowling all-rounder Pakistan team needs?

He's a batting all-rounder if we're gonna use him at #8 then it wouldn't be much of an upgrade from Anwar because his bowling's harmless.
 
Should replace IK Junior next game. That would strengthen the batting too.
 
play him instead of maqsood, view him as batsman in t20s

The guy averages 40 in first class with a double ton, clearly is doing something right
 
ChachaCricket said:
Harmless bowler. Swings the ball a little but can be used for a couple of overs if needed. Seems to possess some cricketing acumen.
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Hmm sound to me that he‘s a batting all-rounder who could bowl some overs.
 
He is clearly an average trundled with the ball, but what kind of bowler is Anwar. It's frustrating that Yameen hardly gets a look in despite doing little wrong, he was the only member of the ODI team who didn't get a game against England, he batted below tanvir in the one t20 he played where all he did was ball two overs, getting a wicket.

Again not over hyping him, bowling isn't much better than other trundlers but at least he can swing it. As a batsman he looks the closest we have had to Abdul Razzaq in a while, has a double ton in FC as well.

Only thing Anwar has over him is fielding, and I say this as a guy who have a soft spot for Anwar.

Sadly I think Yameen will be forgotten now, he isn't even in the ODI squad despite scoring 60 odd in his last game
 
His hopes for World T20 are almost over.

Very Sad for him and pakistan.

I consider him a specialist batsman who can hit big sensibly and can bowl abit.

With wahab , Junaid & Tait it's hard for him to get into playing eleven.


# Anwar Ali you beauty Lucky boy.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
His hopes for World T20 are almost over.

Very Sad for him and pakistan.

I consider him a specialist batsman who can hit big sensibly and can bowl abit.

With wahab , Junaid & Tait it's hard for him to get into playing eleven.


# Anwar Ali you beauty Lucky boy.
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ALLAH give him Patience.he is sitting on the bench from quite a while now. Soooo harsh if gets drop from world t20 squad thanks to overrated trundle anwar ali .if anwar ali get selected i will have no hope from pakistan team.
 
Batting beautiully against a good Islamabad bowling lineup. Promoted to 3 and is currently on 32 off 28. Unlike Anwar he is a genuine batsman and a better bowler too. He should be our number 7/8 in ODIs and can groomed to be a genuine all rounder for us. I dont understand how a leg side hack, rubbish bowler like Anwar can be in the team over this guy. He has shown his nerves too in the last ODI against Zimbabwe. Needs to replace Anwar in ODIs. and T20s. He is the closest thing we have to a genuine all rounder. Also has a good enough technique to be selected in Tests.
 
My Stance about him has been different from all other Ppers.


I consider him a genuine batsman who can roll his arm over.

I don't consider him a genuine allrounder


I have maintained in last many months that he has got a double hundred in Fc cricket. I want to see him bat at number 5 or number 6 in our ODI line up as a batsman who can average 35 at a SR of 95.


Today is a golden oppurtunity for him. He should cash this golden oppurtunity with both hands and should score a century.
 
Effortlessly rotating strike and he is not out right now after completing his 50. 2 sixes and a couple of stylish boundaries. Proper batmsman this boy
 
Yamin in interview saying that Malik and Grant Flower say to him that he reminds them of Razzaq. I hope he has better work ethic because he is much fitter and a better fielder
 
He deserves a chance no matter what his batting is more than enough to get him in to our side, his bowling is just a bonus.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
My Stance about him has been different from all other Ppers.


I consider him a genuine batsman who can roll his arm over.

I don't consider him a genuine allrounder


I have maintained in last many months that he has got a double hundred in Fc cricket. I want to see him bat at number 5 or number 6 in our ODI line up as a batsman who can average 35 at a SR of 95.


Today is a golden oppurtunity for him. He should cash this golden oppurtunity with both hands and should score a century.
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He has ability with the ball to contribute, but I agree in the sense that he is a batting AR and someone who is not bad technically
 
We have a habit of taking all rounders and putting them into positions where they can't bat for long periods and they can't bowl in pressure situations.

We need to play him as a batsman who you're backing k make 100's, and then who can bowl when you need to kill some overs

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He is better than many in PAkistan with new ball. Almost in every match he gets consistent in-swing and odd ball holds its line.
 
He bowls about 135ks which is good enough. Both him and Ammad Butt should be given a long run over the likes of Anwar Ali and Sohail Tanvir.
 
I haven't seen too much of his bowling to judge properly but from what I've seen he looks like a gentle swing bowler who can pick up some early wickets. Batting wise he's really good and can play positively with a good SR and hitting boundaries when needed, personally think he's better than Anwar Ali in ODI's.
 
I think Ammad Butt, Fahim Ashraf and Hassan Ali can be our fast bowling all rounders, all can bat as well, Hassan Ali batted well today, although Hassan Ali is more of a bowler, but Fahim Ashraf has more potential than Ammad Butt to be our much needed fast bowling all rounder, Ammad Butt can be a bowler who can bat a bit, but am not so sure if he can become a fast bowling all rounder.
 
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Seems to me, a batsman who can be used for some overs. So a batting all-rounder (unlike Amad Butt, who is a bowling all-rounder, who can swing some with bat too).

I don't think against top sides, he'll be able finish 10 overs, respectfully.
 
aamer yamin is from multan and have represented in the LOI side on few occasions .. Inzi is also from multan, so he must be well aware of this guy hailing from his hometown..i like this player, whatever the opportunity he gets makes it count... not a bits and pieces player he is much more than what others can offer...if he can survive the bowling of irfan, hassan ali and abbas in a bowling friendly wicket coming in at no.3 then it is an eye-opener innings
 
ExplicitAI said:
I haven't seen too much of his bowling to judge properly but from what I've seen he looks like a gentle swing bowler who can pick up some early wickets. Batting wise he's really good and can play positively with a good SR and hitting boundaries when needed, personally think he's better than Anwar Ali in ODI's.
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Exactly what I think of him, should be batting at number 6
 
ExplicitAI said:
I haven't seen too much of his bowling to judge properly but from what I've seen he looks like a gentle swing bowler who can pick up some early wickets. Batting wise he's really good and can play positively with a good SR and hitting boundaries when needed, personally think he's better than Anwar Ali in ODI's.
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Goes to show how unfair it was to drop him in the England series where he didn't even get to bat in his last t20 game where grand wizard Sohail Tanvir was sent in before him at 8, and he even walked away with a respectable economy rate of 5.2 iirc.

He's the allrounder we need but not the one we deserve :batman:
 
I have been on the Yamin hype train for months and I am so glad more people are boarding on. I have said it before and will say it again. This kid is the next best all-rounder we have after Razzaq.
 
Yanna_Rascala said:
I have been on the Yamin hype train for months and I am so glad more people are boarding on. I have said it before and will say it again. This kid is the next best all-rounder we have after Razzaq.
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Amir Yamin is not an 'all rounder'. He is a batsman who can trundle a few overs.
 
tauseef_mahmood said:
he is not fast ........ i think
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Being fast only is not everything. He seems to have control which matters. Wahab and irfan have pace and they still get hammered. All rounders are like that. He should be included. Even Watson dont have much pace but look at him. Wont u have him in team?
 
hur rizvi said:
Can bowl mid 130s and swings new ball, so he could contribute 5 overs per match atleast and bat at no. 3.

I also look at him as a test prospect for overseas tests
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Your seriously misjudging his pace. His average pace is somewhere between 125-130.
 
Ankit007 said:
Being fast only is not everything. He seems to have control which matters. Wahab and irfan have pace and they still get hammered. All rounders are like that. He should be included. Even Watson dont have much pace but look at him. Wont u have him in team?
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Irfan doesn't even have pace anymore. Was trundling at 125 kph with short and wide garbage which Guptill smashed regularly.

Baffling how misbah selected him for Isl. Oh right, he's his Islamabad United buddy.
 
His bowling is nowhere near as bad as people here are making out. He's a skiddy bowler in the 130s range, swings the ball, gets seam movement, and seems to have a much better head than someone like Bhatti or Anwar.

Above all, he's a very decent bat who has decent hitting ability. Hitting down the order is something we've been lacking in recent times, and I think Yamin could be our man. I watched some of his innings against Islamabad, and he looked like a proper batsman, unlike Anwar or Bhatti.
 
These are the same people who had hyped the likes of Bhatti, Anwar, Nawaz, Saad Nasim.

This guy, how can he be different? All hype.

Nothing is going to happen and we won't have any quality allrounder.
 
If people think he's the best thing as in an 'all rounder' then seriously Pakistan cricket has come to a major hault.
 
Yanna_Rascala said:
I have been on the Yamin hype train for months and I am so glad more people are boarding on. I have said it before and will say it again. This kid is the next best all-rounder we have after Razzaq.
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Same. I also started saying this even before his 50 against Zim. His knock vs Karachi in that one T20 tournament was pretty great. His bowling will improve as well
 
Hawkeye said:
These are the same people who had hyped the likes of Bhatti, Anwar, Nawaz, Saad Nasim.

This guy, how can he be different? All hype.

Nothing is going to happen and we won't have any quality allrounder.
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He is a good enough prospect to be given a run. He hasnt done badly at all in the Limited chances he got

HE may not be special as an AR, but I really rate his batting. Quality of shots he possesses is better than many pure batsmen we have.

Anwar and Bhatti havent been able to produce batting performance consistently even domestically. They are poor bowler and poor batters. IN Yamin I see a player who can bat in top 6 and bowl 5 good overs with new ball, because he is a genuine in-swing bowler.

I would like us to invest in Yamin and give him consistent run for an year atleast, like we gave to Anwar.
 
Hawkeye said:
These are the same people who had hyped the likes of Bhatti, Anwar, Nawaz, Saad Nasim.

This guy, how can he be different? All hype.

Nothing is going to happen and we won't have any quality allrounder.
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easy to throw out names, lets look at all hose players

Bhatti: poor mans sami as a bowler, decent slogger as abatsman
Anwar: Crap bowler - decent slogger
Nawaz- still a kid long way to go, plenty of potential
Nasim - crap at everything

Now Yamin is at best an average bowler, but as a batsman he is far superior then any of the names you mentioned. He averages 40 in first class and has a double ton. Plus what little we have seen of him he seems to be a clean striker, something we lack

just because we cant have a quality allrounder doesnt mean we cant have a decent one
 
hur rizvi said:
He is a good enough prospect to be given a run. He hasnt done badly at all in the Limited chances he got

HE may not be special as an AR, but I really rate his batting. Quality of shots he possesses is better than many pure batsmen we have.

Anwar and Bhatti havent been able to produce batting performance consistently even domestically. They are poor bowler and poor batters. IN Yamin I see a player who can bat in top 6 and bowl 5 good overs with new ball, because he is a genuine in-swing bowler.

I would like us to invest in Yamin and give him consistent run for an year atleast, like we gave to Anwar.
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pakistanigoneaussie said:
easy to throw out names, lets look at all hose players

Bhatti: poor mans sami as a bowler, decent slogger as abatsman
Anwar: Crap bowler - decent slogger
Nawaz- still a kid long way to go, plenty of potential
Nasim - crap at everything

Now Yamin is at best an average bowler, but as a batsman he is far superior then any of the names you mentioned. He averages 40 in first class and has a double ton. Plus what little we have seen of him he seems to be a clean striker, something we lack

just because we cant have a quality allrounder doesnt mean we cant have a decent one
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My point was : we're all 'now' saying those guys are rubbish. Before their debut, everyone used to cry about them not getting selected. Specially Nawaz, Saad Nasim and Anwar Ali - they were hyped to the moon.

What did we get? Neither a good batsman nor a bowler at international level.

The same process is being repeated for Yamin. Even Imad Wasim was highly hyped for his batting, having centuries/double tons in FC.

He's a bits and pieces average cricketer at international level. :danish I'm not expecting anything different from Yamin.
 
Yes we need him badly.

Anwar will still get preference because of his friends. :@
 
Pakistan cricket is not going to produce a quality seam-bowling A/R any time soon. The last one made his debut 20 years ago.

We don't have the likes of Stokes and Marsh, so we have to do with what we have, and Yamin looks better than the likes of Anwar, Bhatti and Tanvir which is all that matters.
 
Hawkeye said:
My point was : we're all 'now' saying those guys are rubbish. Before their debut, everyone used to cry about them not getting selected. Specially Nawaz, Saad Nasim and Anwar Ali - they were hyped to the moon.

What did we get? Neither a good batsman nor a bowler at international level.

The same process is being repeated for Yamin. Even Imad Wasim was highly hyped for his batting, having centuries/double tons in FC.

He's a bits and pieces average cricketer at international level. :danish I'm not expecting anything different from Yamin.
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IMO those saying he is average are in the same bracket as those who think that he is a great AR. He is a decent prospect who has potential to be better than most AR prospects in PAkistan.

Imad is a handy LOI prospect and I dont think his batting is bad at all, he has got potential. Problem is his bowling and the fact that he is very one-dimmensional. Same with Nawaz, I havent written him off yet.

Others like Bhatti, Saad and Anwar were always very average cricketers and apart from Bhatti who got hype because of his pace as a bowler, most of PP didnt rate them as quality in either discipline.

What impresses me about Yamin is that he is a very solid looking batsman and even in his weak discipline i-e bowling he gets new ball to swing consistently and would provide some utility.

Even if you exclude his bowling, IMO he has more potential than many of our batsmen and can become a reliable bat, because of his orthodox and neat technique.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan cricket is not going to produce a quality seam-bowling A/R any time soon. The last one made his debut 20 years ago.

We don't have the likes of Stokes and Marsh, so we have to do with what we have, and Yamin looks better than the likes of Anwar, Bhatti and Tanvir which is all that matters.
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Yup, that is what matters and because of this very reason we need to give him a decent run like we have given to Anwar Ali who is nothing other than a specialist fielder
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan cricket is not going to produce a quality seam-bowling A/R any time soon. The last one made his debut 20 years ago.

We don't have the likes of Stokes and Marsh, so we have to do with what we have, and Yamin looks better than the likes of Anwar, Bhatti and Tanvir which is all that matters.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4...amer-yamin-smashes-49-against-islamabad_sport
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] His bating reminds me of of Shafiq. Very orthodox and neat. Just look at that flick shot of Irfan for four and Cover drive of Hasan ALi.
 
Hawkeye said:
My point was : we're all 'now' saying those guys are rubbish. Before their debut, everyone used to cry about them not getting selected. Specially Nawaz, Saad Nasim and Anwar Ali - they were hyped to the moon.

What did we get? Neither a good batsman nor a bowler at international level.

The same process is being repeated for Yamin. Even Imad Wasim was highly hyped for his batting, having centuries/double tons in FC.

He's a bits and pieces average cricketer at international level. :danish I'm not expecting anything different from Yamin.
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imad hid in regional cricket, never played departmental, and you are hyping the amount of hype those players were given
 
hur rizvi said:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4...amer-yamin-smashes-49-against-islamabad_sport
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] His bating reminds me of of Shafiq. Very orthodox and neat. Just look at that flick shot of Irfan for four and Cover drive of Hasan ALi.
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Thanks. Yes clearly, he looks like a solid batsman and not a pretender like Anwar, Bhatti and Tanvir will hit a few leg-side slogs once in a while.

His half-century in Zimbabwe last year was quite impressive as well.

If he can average around 30 at a good SR, he will be a massive upgrade on the other pseudo all-rounders. His bowling might to be weaker than Tanvir's, but he can't be worse than Anwar either.
 
hur rizvi said:
IMO those saying he is average are in the same bracket as those who think that he is a great AR. He is a decent prospect who has potential to be better than most AR prospects in PAkistan.

Imad is a handy LOI prospect and I dont think his batting is bad at all, he has got potential. Problem is his bowling and the fact that he is very one-dimmensional. Same with Nawaz, I havent written him off yet.

Others like Bhatti, Saad and Anwar were always very average cricketers and apart from Bhatti who got hype because of his pace as a bowler, most of PP didnt rate them as quality in either discipline.

What impresses me about Yamin is that he is a very solid looking batsman and even in his weak discipline i-e bowling he gets new ball to swing consistently and would provide some utility.

Even if you exclude his bowling, IMO he has more potential than many of our batsmen and can become a reliable bat, because of his orthodox and neat technique.
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The video you posted looks good, he looks far better than Anwar Slogger.

However, does he have the power game for a #6 or #7?
 
Hawkeye said:
The video you posted looks good, he looks far better than Anwar Slogger.

However, does he have the power game for a #6 or #7?
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Yep he has the power game, He is a sensible hitter tbh. Next time i will try to record his more and more shots, this time i only recorded his boundaries :)
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
I saw his short stincts at crease in last two matches in 4th corporate t20 tournament but he was really impressive . Today the ball stayed too low and the bowler yousuf is a sure shot chucker .
Aamir yamin his technique , stance , footwork , bat flow , power game , range of shots much much better than bilawal bhatti , hammad azam & anwar Ali .
In bowling his pace is equivalent to anwar ali but he bowls good Yorkers , bowls well in death overs and seams the ball like razzaq used to do . Doesn't swing but seams the deliveries .
He opened in Quaid e azam trophy with the bat and got a fifty .
Must to look out for . Better choice than anwar Ali , bilawal bhatti and hammad azam . Not a world beater but a good allrounder .
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This was my initial take 13 months ago. But having seen him quite abit his biggest disadvantage is his 5'7 only height as a medium fast bowler which makes it east to hit him on the up. So for me he is not a genuine allrounder but a genuine batsman who can bowl abit.


He has a double century in Fc cricket, He has a fifty in semi final or final of Qea when he opened for SBP.


In my view he is one of the best option available for Us at number 6 batting position.


Do One thing. Watch " Aamer Yamin's first fifty in Odi Cricket " on Internet compare that knock with Imad Wasim's fifty. When Pakistan will have Saud & Haris in Odi Line Up than i don't think they would want another left hander Nawaz or Imad at number 6. Than it should be tie between Aamer Yamin and Mohammad Rizwan. Even if Umar Akmal makes a comeback to Odi team or Sohaib i don't think they should bat at number 6 they are poor finishers. And Yamin can give us 2 to 5 overs in 80 % of matches.


We must not see him as a genuine alrounder like Razzaq or Mehmood and we should consider him for number 6.


His Fifty is worth watching Guys incase you people missed it.
 
Our dear selectors don't agree with us. They want AR like Azhar or Razzler, they arent ready to groom some one.
 
#GreenRoars said:
Our dear selectors don't agree with us. They want AR like Azhar or Razzler, they arent ready to groom some one.
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Yamin at 6 as a Specialist Batsman and a 2 to 6 overs partime bowler is better than Rizwan, Nawaz or Imad at number 6 considering Worldcup 2019 will be played in England.
 
Can't bowl, can't bat. A poor man's Hammad Azam (who himself is a poor man's Razzaq).
 
endymion248 said:
Can't bowl, can't bat. A poor man's Hammad Azam (who himself is a poor man's Razzaq).
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Yes, all we need is your M. Nawaz. Second coming of Imran Khan (spin version), ability to clean up lineups and power-hit at will. :kakmal
 
FGS Stop overhyping the mediocre players just like Hasan Ali was hyped as the next imran khan and can barely hold the bat even wahab is a better bat than him
 
Hawkeye said:
Yes, all we need is your M. Nawaz. Second coming of Imran Khan (spin version), ability to clean up lineups and power-hit at will. :kakmal
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Aren't you the guy who called Imad Wasim a tailender? Who can take your opinion seriously?

The irony is that the one guy you have been championing - Aamer Yamin - has always failed with both bat and ball.
 
endymion248 said:
Aren't you the guy who called Imad Wasim a tailender? Who can take your opinion seriously?

The irony is that the one guy you have been championing - Aamer Yamin - has always failed with both bat and ball.
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Of course, I stand by my words. Anwar Ali has played better knocks than the one Imad played, which is not acceptable for any number 7, with massive number of dot balls and inability to hit clean at will.

He can't do that. Neither he will consistently. And neither can Nawaz.

Only some in fantasy world have suddenly started rating Imad after that average knock. Are you one of them? Cuz you bashed him too.
 
One thing is clear all PP'ers have agenda and favourites. They would rather see Pakistan suffer, if means their "lad" gets a game.
 
Hawkeye said:
Of course, I stand by my words. Anwar Ali has played better knocks than the one Imad played, which is not acceptable for any number 7, with massive number of dot balls and inability to hit clean at will.

He can't do that. Neither he will consistently. And neither can Nawaz.

Only some in fantasy world have suddenly started rating Imad after that average knock. Are you one of them? Cuz you bashed him too.
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I bashed his bowling as he is mostly an armball darter. Can be useful in T20s. His batting I have always said is decent. Even if it's a slow knock, you won't see such innings by tailenders. And, tbf, Anwar Ali isn't a tailender either, it's just his bowling that leaves a lot to be desired. Both are better options than Aamer Yamin who is a poor bowler and poor batsman.

Anyways, all of them have batting as their strong suit, while Nawaz has bowling as his strong suit so the comparison doesn't make sense.
 
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