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Is Ahmed Shehzad an inferior version of Imran Farhat?

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Both openers. Both inconsistent.

Imran Farhat was a bit unlucky, didn't get to play as many matches as PCB's golden boy Ahmed Shehzad has played so far.

Imran Farhat:
ODI innings: 58
Average: 30

Ahmed Shehzad:
Innings: 69
Average: 34

It's amazing that Shehzad got to play more matches than even Imran Farhat, and the only thing he has shown is how to regress.

Shehzad has already failed in 2 World Cups.

Discuss.
 
he should have kicked out of the team after world cup , he is something more than imran farhat , imran farhat wasnt this much golden boy of pcb.
 
No Shehzad's better as you're posting of the record shows. Shehzad's also done very well in South Africa. And done much better in tests in general.

It's a shame Farhat didn't do better internationally. There was a lot of complaints that it was biased/external support to the fact he was picked and repicked, but the man arguably was our most prolific opener in domestic in recent times, so really should have done better.
 
People bash Farhat. But Shehzad is just as poor

Yes, it's amazing and sad to see the double standards.

Farhat was in and out of the side, never got to play consistently and was not given a long rope. People bashed him left right, he had not even played that many international matches.

Compare it to Shehzad. Been permanently in the side since years.


- Failed in 2011 World Cup
- Failed in 2015 World Cup
- Averages about the same as Farhat
- Severe technical flaws
- Shehzad has played 80+ international matches
- Farhat only played 58 ODIs

Why is he been given such a long rope by the PCB?
 
No Shehzad's better as you're posting of the record shows. Shehzad's also done very well in South Africa. And done much better in tests in general.

It's a shame Farhat didn't do better internationally. There was a lot of complaints that it was biased/external support to the fact he was picked and repicked, but the man arguably was our most prolific opener in domestic in recent times, so really should have done better.

Imran Farhat has a ton (or was it 90*) against Steyn and co. in South Africa, won us a match on his own there.

The difference in average is very minor, you can't say Shehzad is better based on this alone. Take into account he has been permanent part of the team, Farhat never was. He is also treated as a golden boy by PCB, no action taken against his attitude either.

Despite a long rope, he has only regressed, didn't work on his consistency, strike rotation and technique.
 
Farhat is a hugely underrated player, the BEST OPENER in Pakistan! Farhat has a better record in tests in England than Hanif Muhammad did on his first two tours to England

Always played in difficult tours, just to drop him, because he has no sources. A BRILLIANT TALENT!

Farhat's record in Sri Lanka is also brilliant, I believe he's done better than Sachin Tendulkar there
 
No Shehzad's better as you're posting of the record shows. Shehzad's also done very well in South Africa. And done much better in tests in general.

It's a shame Farhat didn't do better internationally. There was a lot of complaints that it was biased/external support to the fact he was picked and repicked, but the man arguably was our most prolific opener in domestic in recent times, so really should have done better.

Just checked.

- Shehzad averages 45 in South Africa.
- Farhat averages 53 in South Africa, also won us a match there while chasing.

By NO means I mean to say he was a great batsman, just saying Shehzad is inferior to him. He has gotten way more chances and a very long rope.
 
Imran Farhat has a ton (or was it 90*) against Steyn and co. in South Africa, won us a match on his own there.

The difference in average is very minor, you can't say Shehzad is better based on this alone. Take into account he has been permanent part of the team, Farhat never was. He is also treated as a golden boy by PCB, no action taken against his attitude either.

Despite a long rope, he has only regressed, didn't work on his consistency, strike rotation and technique.

I know. That innings was a pretty lucky innings and wasn't as dominant in constructing the win, Misbah played a much better innings on that day to take us out of trouble. Shehzad scored multiple times unlike Farhat too. A difference of 5 in average is actually quite a bit IMO.

Shehzad also had a period where he was consistently scoring at a decent amount to cement his place in the side. Averaged 38 in 2013, 39 in 2014, 36 in 2015. Farhat didn't have that sort of consistency in periods. Also was performing in tests, average has dropped a bit there now but it's still 43. Farhat was averaging around 30 in tests and also not really impressing too much in ODIs.

I think we are too harsh on openers in general, we forget just how bad Butt (in tests),Farhat, Nazir, Hameed etc. were.

The thing that annoys me most about shehzad isn't his performance, it's passable. Just don't think his way of playing the game can work in the long run nor can he improve with that gameplay in ODIs. I'm optimistic he'll change over time but it concerns me.
 
I know. That innings was a pretty lucky innings and wasn't as dominant in constructing the win, Misbah played a much better innings on that day to take us out of trouble. Shehzad scored multiple times unlike Farhat too. A difference of 5 in average is actually quite a bit IMO.

Shehzad also had a period where he was consistently scoring at a decent amount to cement his place in the side. Averaged 38 in 2013, 39 in 2014, 36 in 2015. Farhat didn't have that sort of consistency in periods. Also was performing in tests, average has dropped a bit there now but it's still 43. Farhat was averaging around 30 in tests and also not really impressing too much in ODIs.

I think we are too harsh on openers in general, we forget just how bad Butt (in tests),Farhat, Nazir, Hameed etc. were.

The thing that annoys me most about shehzad isn't his performance, it's passable. Just don't think his way of playing the game can work in the long run nor can he improve with that gameplay in ODIs. I'm optimistic he'll change over time but it concerns me.

Farhat was always taken on tough tours and he did the best best he could. He was not terrible, he's still the best opener in Pakistan and is a must in the team. It's sad just how underrated he is, when he could have been our Warner
 
I'm optimistic he'll change over time but it concerns me.

Close to 100 international matches so far, yet the worst batsman in the team. That should tell you to give up on him.
 
Shezhad hasn't regressed yet to the level of Farhat and I hope that he doesn't.
 
Close to 100 international matches so far, yet the worst batsman in the team. That should tell you to give up on him.

That's just because our standards have been raised. If Farhat was in the team he'd be the worse batsman. Not saying Shehzad is great, but he's better than farhat, even if you bring in stats you can see a difference.

We've struggled to find people performing in the top 3. Our guys struggle to play quality pace when the bowlers are firing in first and fresh with the new ball. Our guys are better playing lower down generally and against spin. Even our top order is, and that's probably a reflection of the pitches they're used to.

It was probably why I was an advocate for Hafeez being in the team before. He isn't really any worse than the other guys we've tried/have had in the top order for the last few years (he's actually probably the best out of them) until Azhar came along. He allowed the better batsmen to bat lower down to take advantage there and bowled 10 good overs giving us an important 5th bowling option. I felt that was a great compromise given as I said a lot of our batsmen just don't seem to be suited in the top order. Also why I didn't really want Hafeez shunted down the order to take a place of a more talented middle order batsman who is more comfortable and scores more lower down (except maybe 7 as 7 wouldn't get as much a chance to bat so might be at a disadvantage). This has changed somewhat with the ban though, so I'm not sure what to do now.
 
Shehzad fields better than farhat, so there's that.....
 
Shahzad averages 35, I know it's 1 point but in terms of averages that is a lot. Over time that is a difference of a couple of thousand runs.
 
Yet he has failed in 2 world cups already, letting the team down.

And a matter of 4 points does not matter when 30 and 34 both are in poor category. Add to it the fact - Farhat never got the same golden boy treatment Shehzad is getting. He wasn't a permanent part of the team, Shehzad is, so should have done better.

Why attacking posters when you can't defend via a logical argument?
While I agree with overall sentiment that both have a similar body of work, the lack of golden boy treatment for farhat is not true. He owes the last years of his career to his father in law.
 
Shahzad averages 35, I know it's 1 point but in terms of averages that is a lot. Over time that is a difference of a couple of thousand runs.

Fair point, but that still falls in the poor category, no? Considering he has played 70 ODIs, been a permanent part of the team, is the investment wasted?
 
While I agree with overall sentiment that both have a similar body of work, the lack of golden boy treatment for farhat is not true. He owes the last years of his career to his father in law.

Maybe yes, but overall he didn't get as many consistence chances if I remember correctly.

He was failing and kept getting selected, the torture ended one day. Do you think it will end in Shehzad's case? Or will he continue to get a free ride.
 
Maybe yes, but overall he didn't get as many consistence chances if I remember correctly.

He was failing and kept getting selected, the torture ended one day. Do you think it will end in Shehzad's case? Or will he continue to get a free ride.
I have an issue with shehzad's technique.doesnt lend confidence.
 
Fair point, but that still falls in the poor category, no? Considering he has played 70 ODIs, been a permanent part of the team, is the investment wasted?

Possibly. One has to look at how he has done over time not just his overall average. He has improved his average since his comeback into the team after being dropped in 2011. I wouldn't mind sticking with him, as everyone else we have tried has failed thus far since Salman Butt.

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Shehzad reminds me quiet a bit of Marlon Samuels; if he gets past 40 odd he usually goes on to make a big score but if not the team ends up paying big time because he would have eaten up too many dot balls given his inability to rotate the strike. Hopefully he can sore this technical issue out; he has time on his side which is great. At the moment he is ideal for Test Cricket, his selection in ODI's is a gamble. Needs to fix up his attitude but after being slapped on the wrist maybe someone has talked a bit of sense into him...
 
Poor Ahmed Shehzad get lot of hate on PP for nothing. He already have 10 international tons and he is not even 25 yet. Who was the last Pakistani opener excluding Saeed Anwar to have that many international tons?
 
Some looking for any opportunity to start a senseless thread. The guy won you a series and CT spot just three days ago, failed today and here we go------, mindless, pathetic thread.
 
Shehzad is an inferior version of Wajahatullah Wasti..
 
Disappointed in this thread. I don't rate Shehzad as highly as some of the other openers around the world but he is very certainly one of the best openers in Pakistan and is better than Farhat purely because of the fact that he plays more match winning innings. I.e Farhat will score 20s and 30s consistently while on the other hand Shehzad will score 90-100 score and then score 0-15 for 2-3 games. In terms of converstion rate Shehzad is much better and once he gets going he can up the tempo as well. Farhat was a nothing player and never scored in crunch games. Shehzad just played a match winning knock and won you the series, it would be nice if we gave him the respect he deserves.
 
Too much blind hatred for Shehzad these days. I'm not his biggest fan, but he did alright this series. Give credit where due.

Anyway on topic, he's younger than Farhat, averages higher and has a lot more tons, so no.
 
Too much blind hatred for Shehzad these days. I'm not his biggest fan, but he did alright this series. Give credit where due.

I think it's mainly that a lot us are frustrated with Shezzy rather than hating as he seems to be regressing rather than building on the promise he showed in the early days. We all want him to do well but eventually the patience wears thin.

There is a huge amount of importance riding on the opener's slot in the current odi climate and if he's not delivering the goods, then it would be time to look elsewhere.
 
No. Youre a hater now lol!

but honestly this thread is a joke. Shehzad matches Farhat sometimes in how much he can frustrate you though
 
Disappointed in this thread. I don't rate Shehzad as highly as some of the other openers around the world but he is very certainly one of the best openers in Pakistan and is better than Farhat purely because of the fact that he plays more match winning innings. I.e Farhat will score 20s and 30s consistently while on the other hand Shehzad will score 90-100 score and then score 0-15 for 2-3 games. In terms of converstion rate Shehzad is much better and once he gets going he can up the tempo as well. Farhat was a nothing player and never scored in crunch games. Shehzad just played a match winning knock and won you the series, it would be nice if we gave him the respect he deserves.
TBF in his early days Farhat scored some blinders. I remember one series against NZ.

But yea Shehzad is way ahead of Farhat and contributes in the fielding too
 
People here always focus on 1 innings, too much dissection.

Cricket is a game of averages. Number of games played is relative to age.

Shehzad has 15 more years of cricket in him and already has 10 centuries. He will most likely end up Pakistans most successful opener.
 
ahmed shahzad is not an international standard good quality batsman of avg 40. he is just club level player who dont know how to hit balls in the gaps. very frustrating to see him bat. should give way to some talented youngster.
 
Club level players cant play international cricket bear in mind that ..and saeed anwar became saeed anwer after almost 100 matches ...let him play that much cricket and then compare him 😊if he is frustrating to eyes then no body can please u 😀
 
Farhat is underrated because of the later part of his career. Before that, he was a decent batsman.
 
Club level players cant play international cricket bear in mind that ..and saeed anwar became saeed anwer after almost 100 matches ...let him play that much cricket and then compare him ��if he is frustrating to eyes then no body can please u ��

Saeed Anwar, despite playing 20 years before Shehzad, had a strike rate in 80s by the time he had played as many matched as Shehzad.
 
F+arhat is the lowest of lows. He's beyond comparison.
I think you've forgotten how terrible he really was otherwise you wouldn't be bringing his name up
 
Cant compare them, the reason shehzad is getting played more right now is because he is young and can still improve, infact he is 10 years younger than farhat

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One of the first batting lessons anyone learns is to hit the gaps and rotate the strike

Its puzzling how someone like him can get to this level and still not know how to pick up regular singles
 
One of the first batting lessons anyone learns is to hit the gaps and rotate the strike

Its puzzling how someone like him can get to this level and still not know how to pick up regular singles

It's almost cringeworthy to see him play like that.
 
Farhat was actually decent among the rabble of poor openers Pak have had over the years.

His technique was not that bad but his problem is he would overbalance at times, and be on the walk to play his offside drives. So hence his leg side game was pretty poor, especially for a left hander which should be bread and butter for them.
His blade was also too open and not straight enough so he was always be a candidate to give slip practice to any decent bowler who kept it outside off stump on a length.

He just didn't work hard enough on those weaknesses hence his averages were mediocre.

Shezhad I would say he's a better player because his all round game is better than Farhat, especial his back foot game.

However he too has weaknesses especially his poor footwork when it comes to driving the ball, especially when the ball is there to drive on the up.
It's non existent at times and he really needs to close the gate or plug that gap between bat and pad otherwise he will be a sitting duck in next years away tour to England, particularly the Test series.
 
Cannot wait to bump this thread in 10-15 years when Shehzad has the most tons by a Pakistani batsman, EVER :)
 
Cannot wait to bump this thread in 10-15 years when Shehzad has the most tons by a Pakistani batsman, EVER :)

It means zilch if he scores "MOST TONS" at an average of 30-34. Have some cricketing sense.

His fans only have one argument - he has X number of tons at Y age. Doesn't matter, they've all come at a very poor average, meaning he will score good in one innings, and then either score a duck or single digit scors in the next 10 matches.

This is the kind of player who will give your team POOR starts - Haven't we already seen it in TWO World Cups? He can't play under pressure or at the big stage.
 
However he too has weaknesses especially his poor footwork when it comes to driving the ball, especially when the ball is there to drive on the up.
It's non existent at times and he really needs to close the gate or plug that gap between bat and pad otherwise he will be a sitting duck in next years away tour to England, particularly the Test series.

Correct. The way he tries to drive is the ugliest I've ever seen a batsman do, with static feet. Very much vulnerable to outswing and outside edge. Been a victim many times.

I think his flawed batting with technical problems will never allow him to average above 34-35 at a good strike rate. Unless we keep playing Bangladesh/Zimbabwe/Sri Lanka.
 
It means zilch if he scores "MOST TONS" at an average of 30-34. Have some cricketing sense.

His fans only have one argument - he has X number of tons at Y age. Doesn't matter, they've all come at a very poor average, meaning he will score good in one innings, and then either score a duck or single digit scors in the next 10 matches.

This is the kind of player who will give your team POOR starts - Haven't we already seen it in TWO World Cups? He can't play under pressure or at the big stage.

So what if he finishes up with 35 average and 25 centuries? Thats a solid career. Even second coming of Jesus Brendan McCullum would be proud of that.

I would rather have a 22 year old averaging 35 than a 33 year old averaging 35.
 
So what if he finishes up with 35 average and 25 centuries? Thats a solid career. Even second coming of Jesus Brendan McCullum would be proud of that.

I would rather have a 22 year old averaging 35 than a 33 year old averaging 35.

You're assuming that he will score 25 centuries, at an average of 35, and a good strike? 90. It is acceptable, if he manages to do all this combined.

This package of 3 (according to your assumption) will still have the element of inconsistency let me tell you. 35 with 25 tons means you've failed your team most of the times. Hafeez already is such a batsman, many tons, average not good enough but stilll better than Shehzad.

I don't think your assumption will come out to be true though, strike rate will remain poor and he can't average high if Pak keeps playing proper oppositions. Too many flaws in batting.
 
Shehzad is definitely a better batsman than Farhat, Imran Farhat's technique was absolutely zero no matter where flat tracks or green mambas.
 
You're assuming that he will score 25 centuries, at an average of 35, and a good strike? 90. It is acceptable, if he manages to do all this combined.

This package of 3 (according to your assumption) will still have the element of inconsistency let me tell you. 35 with 25 tons means you've failed your team most of the times. Hafeez already is such a batsman, many tons, average not good enough but stilll better than Shehzad.

I don't think your assumption will come out to be true though, strike rate will remain poor and he can't average high if Pak keeps playing proper oppositions. Too many flaws in batting.

Stop looking at Shehzad the 23 year old and look ahead.

Batsmen start to peak from age 27/28 onwards. He still is developing. If he has 10 centuries at age 23 then by the time he is 28 he will be much more developed and will accumulate even more.
 
So what if he finishes up with 35 average and 25 centuries? Thats a solid career. Even second coming of Jesus Brendan McCullum would be proud of that.

I would rather have a 22 year old averaging 35 than a 33 year old averaging 35.

Shehzad can only dream of the strike rate Brendan has. Problem with Shehzad is not the number of centuries, it's his high dot ball percentage and low strike rate as a result.
 
Century a series and do nothing in rest of the matches is all what Shahzad used to do.

Has stopped even doing that.


Anyways, Farhat was a decent player of pace, atleast used to give us 40 run opening partnership most of the times.

Shahzad seriously need to on improve on two fronts

-) Learn to rotate strike and manage healthy SR throughout the innings
-) Learn how to play in pressure situations specially during a run chase
 
It means zilch if he scores "MOST TONS" at an average of 30-34. Have some cricketing sense.

His fans only have one argument - he has X number of tons at Y age. Doesn't matter, they've all come at a very poor average, meaning he will score good in one innings, and then either score a duck or single digit scors in the next 10 matches.

This is the kind of player who will give your team POOR starts - Haven't we already seen it in TWO World Cups? He can't play under pressure or at the big stage.
Can your hero 'King Misbah'?

Failed in 2007 t20 World Cup final. Failed in 2011 Mohali. Failed in 2015 WC QF.
 
Shehzad is definitely a better batsman than Farhat, Imran Farhat's technique was absolutely zero no matter where flat tracks or green mambas.

Farhat is the don bradman of Pakistani domestic cricket

Shezhad is a pataani ramiz raja
 
Can your hero 'King Misbah'?

Failed in 2007 t20 World Cup final. Failed in 2011 Mohali. Failed in 2015 WC QF.

First of all, Misbah is retired and isn't particularly relevant to this thread.
Regarding his failures though, 2007 t20 world cup cannot be considered a failure. While he did bottle it at the end, the only reason we were even in a position to win the game was because of Misbah's innings. If anything, that game was lost because of Afridi and Hafeez performing terribly with bat and ball, as well as a duck from Kamran Akmal.
Mohali, alright, Misbah's innings can be considered a failure there, but the golden boy was so poor through the tournament that he wasn't even selected.
2015 QF - yeah Misbah again didn't play a good knock, but since this thread is about Shehzad, let's also point out that golden boy's innings was even worse.
 
Can your hero 'King Misbah'?

Failed in 2007 t20 World Cup final. Failed in 2011 Mohali. Failed in 2015 WC QF.

Shehzad fans best defense is to attack other players when they have nothing to do with the thread

regardless Misbah doesnt average a mighty jaw dropping 12 against top 10 teams in World CupS as Shezzzy boy does
 
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I won't say he is an 'inferior' version, but he's probably in the same class.

A young Farhat was considered as a future star, but he did not have the hunger and desire to succeed at this level, and his marriage did not help his career either as people simply started to hate on him because of who is father-in-law was.

A Test average of 32 after 40 Tests looks awful, but people need to realize that he played 26 of those Tests in England, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.

He played very little cricket in the sub-continent and has a very good record in Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Speaking of little, he has only played 1 Test in the UAE.

I really don't think Shehzad can fare any better overseas than Farhat, in fact so far, he has nothing to show for outside the UAE. Has toured Sri Lanka twice and failed both times.

His average is quite misleading at the moment given the number of matches he has played and even that is heading only one way - from 47 to 43, will probably be in the 30's soon.

Farhat has played very few ODIs because Salman Butt was comfortably our best ODI opener in the 2000's and because of the high number of middle-order batsmen and all-rounders, we played Kamran as an opener, who was quite handy at the top in his peak, and we also tried to do something different at times by blooding in the likes of Nazir etc. but it did not work.

From 2004-2009, Salman Butt was pretty much untouchable in ODIs and he would probably have broken Saeed Anwar's 20 hundreds mark if it wasn't for the spot-fixing.

Farhat was his stand-by during this time and simply didn't get enough chances, while Hafeez stepped up after Salman Butt's ban and made the opening slot his own.

However, we need to consider the fact that Shehzad did indeed outperform Farhat in the last couple of years. After Shehzad got dropped in 2011, Farhat got a decent run in the team and later on, he also replaced the badly out of form Jamshed but on both occasions, he simply did not grab his opportunities like Shehzad did when he returned to the team in 2013.

Shehzad is a lot more similar to Upul Tharanga, in fact strikingly similar - the Sri Lankan has played 180 ODIs, scored 5,000 runs and 13 hundreds, but his average/SR is mediocre like Shehzad, and he hasn't really managed to convince that he is good enough for this level in spite of having his moments in patches.

Same is the case with Shehzad, has shown glimpses of brilliance at times but after 6 years and 70 ODIs, he really hasn't proven his doubters wrong and it is not harsh to call him an average batsman, based on what he has produced so far and his career seems to heading Tharanga's way, except that he may not last for 180 ODIs especially with new kids on the block like Aslam, Mukhtar, Imran Butt, Siddiq etc. all potential candidates for his spot in the future.

He has only himself to blame though - he had a free run for 2 years but did not work on his flaws. At one point, he was even tipped as the future captain before his lack of discipline, particularly the Dilshan incident took him out of the equation.

He could have been in Azhar's position today, i.e. first-choice opener, ODI captain and next in line for Test captaincy, had he shown maturity and willingness to improve.

He is a product of the system and has received ample opportunities and support at every level, but all that means nothing when you are too big for your boots and consider yourself better than you actually are, and he is guilty of that.
 
tbh both have very similar techniques , but Farhat's footwork was slightly better while Shezads just rooted . Imran Farhat was bit of an underachiever imho .
 
This thread is a joke. Imran farhat was inferior to Shehzad in every possible way.
 
This thread is a joke. Imran farhat was inferior to Shehzad in every possible way.

not saying Shehzad is a similar level player to Farhat. I think he is a superior bat.

But i would say up until the WC they had a freakishly similar career trend. (in ODIs).

Shehzad seems to have not continued the downward trend and Waqar's danda and no nonsense approach seems to be a reason for it imo.

Now is the real test. Can Shehzad build on his good ODI series or will it prove to be just a flash in the pan.

I honestly think he needs to be kept away from the T20 team to be able to build on this. We have superior players fpr that format anyway (Mukhtar and Nauman Anwar) and he will not get the relaxation and sense of ease that he would get in an Afridi captained side if he is not picked for T20s. Shehzad needs to be kept in a leash till the end of the year and that cannot be achieved if he gets to play under his Afridi.
 
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not saying Shehzad is a similar level player to Farhat. I think he is a superior bat.

But i would say up until the WC they had a freakishly similar career trend. (in ODIs).

Shehzad seems to have not continued the downward trend and Waqar's danda and no nonsense approach seems to be a reason for it imo.

Now is the real test. Can Shehzad build on his good ODI series or will it prove to be just a flash in the pan.

I honestly think he needs to be kept away from the T20 team to be able to build on this. We have superior players fpr that format anyway (Mukhtar and Nauman Anwar) and he will not get the relaxation and sense of ease that he would get in an Afridi captained side if he is not picked for T20s. Shehzad needs to be kept in a leash till the end of the year and that cannot be achieved if he gets to play under his Afridi.

Playing under Afridi shouldn't hurt Shehzad too much because he knows Afridi doesn't play other two important format and being Afridi's sidekick would get him nowhere. I also agree Shehzad should not play T20s right now. He is not suited for that format, but he did well in last T20s and he along with Mukhtar formed a good pair so it's only fair to give him and the pair more chances.

The main difference b/w Farhat and Shehzad is that Farhat never looked comfortable at the crease even he had scored a hundred but Shehzad when in looks good and plays alround the wicket. And needless to say Farhat was a horrible fielder.
 
Absolute joke comparing our Lara with our Sachin let alone calling the latter inferior Shehzad in full flow is a treat to watch while Farhat was a dud
 
Trust me, even Imran Farhat wasn't as bad as Ahmed Shehzad.

Took Steyn to the cleaners in SA.
 
not saying Shehzad is a similar level player to Farhat. I think he is a superior bat.

But i would say up until the WC they had a freakishly similar career trend. (in ODIs).

Shehzad seems to have not continued the downward trend and Waqar's danda and no nonsense approach seems to be a reason for it imo.

Now is the real test. Can Shehzad build on his good ODI series or will it prove to be just a flash in the pan.

I honestly think he needs to be kept away from the T20 team to be able to build on this. We have superior players fpr that format anyway (Mukhtar and Nauman Anwar) and he will not get the relaxation and sense of ease that he would get in an Afridi captained side if he is not picked for T20s. Shehzad needs to be kept in a leash till the end of the year and that cannot be achieved if he gets to play under his Afridi.


So, turns out he didn't build on anything - rather - went more downhill, to a level that indeed is below Imran.
 
Honestly we bash Farhat too much due to his father and law ... players like Shahzad and Shan masood are far worse than him.
 
Ahmed shezad is good batsman but at this point he lacks confidence.. give him more chances and with some luck he will come good.. He is like fast bowler Umesh Yadav. we can see he has talent but wast coming good early on his career. Now he has started to deliver.
 
Ahmed shezad is good batsman but at this point he lacks confidence.. give him more chances and with some luck he will come good.. He is like fast bowler Umesh Yadav. we can see he has talent but wast coming good early on his career. Now he has started to deliver.

Technically Shehzad looks too flawed.
 
Ahmed shezad is good batsman but at this point he lacks confidence.. give him more chances and with some luck he will come good.. He is like fast bowler Umesh Yadav. we can see he has talent but wast coming good early on his career. Now he has started to deliver.

how much more onfidence he needs? does he need to get opportunity like kamran akmal for ten years just to flop?
 
Honestly we bash Farhat too much due to his father and law ... players like Shahzad and Shan masood are far worse than him.

Very right. Farhat gets excessive criticism just because of father in law.

He wasn't even as bad as Shehxad and had some good strokes in his batting.
 
Even Yasir looks more assured than Selfiezad and you are comparing him with batsman :)
 
Very right. Farhat gets excessive criticism just because of father in law.

He wasn't even as bad as Shehxad and had some good strokes in his batting.

Please

Shezhad is crap but he still has played some good innings that farhat never could
 
Even Yasir looks more assured than Selfiezad and you are comparing him with batsman :)

Hahaha agreed. This fraudster has been fooling us as a specialist opening batsman since 2009. Can you believe that?
 
Farhat really wasn't that bad. He had decent ODI average+SR cos ODI's were very different back then
 
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