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Is Asif Ali the clean striker we need in the middle overs?
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I won't mind if he is persisted with in the T20I squad. But he should be no way near the ODI squad.
Asif Ali looks like the perfect domestic bully.
He's been an absolute joke in the International level and unable to time bowlers properly because of their extra pace and variety. Has yet to play a match winning knock in either ODI or T20's and is somehow a worse version of Afridi's batting without the great fielding or bowling.
Pakistan just doesn't have a lot of talent domestically, to be honest. Maybe the upcoming young players are but most of the domestic players are just a bunch of mediocre players.
He's been an absolute joke in the International level and unable to time bowlers properly because of their extra pace and variety. Has yet to play a match winning knock in either ODI or T20's and is somehow a worse version of Afridi's batting without the great fielding or bowling.
Pakistan just doesn't have a lot of talent domestically, to be honest. Maybe the upcoming young players are but most of the domestic players are just a bunch of mediocre players.
Afridi was a better hitter - He is even worst just in batting alone.
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here's a serious question: has a lesser qualified player than Asif Ali ever played for Pakistan?
This guy has somehow played 43 International matches based on a couple of sixes he hit in the PSL years ago. Truly astonishing!
Another superhit selection by Misbah (and Inzmam for that matter)
This guy has somehow played 43 International matches based on a couple of sixes he hit in the PSL years ago. Truly astonishing!
Another superhit selection by Misbah (and Inzmam for that matter)
You're insulting the Akmals and Shehzad by calling Asif Ali a domestic bully. He average 22 in first class and 27 in List-A... he is less a domestic bully, more a domestic bunny
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No idea why he keep getting chances, This is even against Misbah logic of picking an old domestic performer.
He has become extremely predictable - teams have summed up his range and they are blocking his very limited scope of run making. This was bound to happen for a batsman with that sort of Domestic (List A & FC) stats, means his batting fundamentals are almost as poor as a tail-ender - now getting exposed.
Also, being a South Asian player with that level of spin play won't allow him to earn much, would struggle even in T10s. If the guy was 10 years younger, I could have suggested to practice WKeeping for T20s (As PAK's best WK-batsman in T20s by some light year's margin is Kamran Akmal - I don't care who thinks what, I have seen enough), but as specialist bat, he is too ordinary.
Also, being a South Asian player with that level of spin play won't allow him to earn much, would struggle even in T10s. If the guy was 10 years younger, I could have suggested to practice WKeeping for T20s (As PAK's best WK-batsman in T20s by some light year's margin is Kamran Akmal - I don't care who thinks what, I have seen enough), but as specialist bat, he is too ordinary.
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Nice from captain Babar
Did you like Babar Azam reaction.?@mmhs.
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He has been the worst investment of Pakistan team after Azhar and Asad.
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Correction: he has been the worst investment by any team in any sport.
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Fickle - this word can be described for Pakistan as a whole. This guy clearly has the potential to really make an impact at the back end of an innings. We should provide him more chances to succeed. No idea why people are already after his life. Terrible attitudes and praying for failure. People should really change and become more positive.
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Point well made.
The way he's been bashed on here has been nothing short of disgraceful. The poor guy has been through a lot over the last 12 months with his daughter's ill health leading up to her death.
But that doesn't stop some low life individuals calling him "worst investment of Pakistan team after ...".
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I feel sorry for what he has gone through in his personally and may Allah help him overcome the roughness of life but how many more chances do you guys think he needs? Have you actually looked at his batting stats (both domestic and international)
Putting aside batting he is a terrible fielder as well and cant bowl so I do not understand all the empathy and the sympathy. We are talking about representing Pakistan internationally, not some charity event.
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I agree he should be dropped, as you said this is international sport and therefore we should adhere to meritocracy.
However, people over here need to give it a rest with hyperbole such as "hack", "worst investment ..." and etc.
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Exactly my point.
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Bhai, for a guy coming in at #6 or #7 back end of the innings, he has not done too bad. Yes his stats may not say he is the best but saying he is the worst thing to happen is really stretching it. He is new, played handful of matches, showed a lot of potential. We need to provide more chances to him and give him more confidence. Of all the players, this guy has the potential to go further.
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Asif Ali hit 47* off 27 balls to lead to the Jamaica Tallawahs to victory.
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Should be in our T20 squads.
I’m sure if we persist with him, he’ll come good.
I’m sure if we persist with him, he’ll come good.
Big difference when batting under pressure, and when batting at club level when no one's watching. From what we have already seen, Asif is typical of a Pakistani player characteristic - failing when it matters.
No bowler is going to bowl in your comfort zone in an International match. If he was a gun fielder and a handy bowler then there's a case for T20Is. But if you're only batting, and giving 20 runs on average then that is mediocre.
No bowler is going to bowl in your comfort zone in an International match. If he was a gun fielder and a handy bowler then there's a case for T20Is. But if you're only batting, and giving 20 runs on average then that is mediocre.
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I think there's a case for him to open in T20Is and ODIs.
He prefers pace on the ball, loves playing it in the air, and struggles with the spinners if my memory serves me correctly. Opening the innings he'd be facing pace bowlers with only 2 fielders outside the circle, he could take advantage of the packed infield and just hit over the top. Coming the middle/late overs as he does now has him with a more defensive field.
It's not the best case, but still a decent one. I wouldn't pick him for the time being but if he does, I'd want him to open.
He prefers pace on the ball, loves playing it in the air, and struggles with the spinners if my memory serves me correctly. Opening the innings he'd be facing pace bowlers with only 2 fielders outside the circle, he could take advantage of the packed infield and just hit over the top. Coming the middle/late overs as he does now has him with a more defensive field.
It's not the best case, but still a decent one. I wouldn't pick him for the time being but if he does, I'd want him to open.
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Asif will never be a one day batsman.
In T20s, he should definitely bat in the top order. No lower than #4.
Hes not good enough for international but decent in these docmestic comptions
Are we back on Asif Ali already? I was wondering how long it would take fans to start on the 'we need Asif Ali' bandwagon
How soon we forget.
He is not an international callable batsmen, he isn't even PSL quality (81 runs in 7 innings last season)
How soon we forget.
He is not an international callable batsmen, he isn't even PSL quality (81 runs in 7 innings last season)
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Asif Ali made 22(16) for the Jamaican Tallawahs vs Trinbago Knight Riders in the CPL.
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Asif Ali 14 vs Amazon Warriors
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Pakistan cricket international Asif Ali faces disciplinary action after swatting his bat within centimetres of bowler Keemo Paul’s face in a heated Caribbean Premier League match.
Asif, batting for Jamaica Tallawahs in Wednesday’s (NZT) match against Guyana Amazon Warriors in Trinidad, objected strongly to words from West Indies pace bowler Paul after he was dismissed for three.
As Paul appeared to give Asif a verbal send-off, the batsman gave a backhand swat of his bat in the bowler’s direction, narrowly missing his face.
Asif Ali of Jamaica Tallawahs takes aim towards Keemo Paul of Guyana Amazon Warriors in a Caribbean Premier League flashpoint.
Paul turned and confronted Asif once again as he left the field, as commentators speculated match referee Reon King would explore the incident further. There was no physical contact but officials usually take a dim view of threatening on-field behaviour.
The Tallawahs, including Black Caps batsman Glenn Phillips, had the final say in a five-wicket victory chasing a target of 110.
Phillips got them off to a rapid start, clouting two sixes in his knock of 26 off 18 balls. He sits third on the CPL runscoring charts, with 128 at an average of 33 and strike rate of 133.
Fellow Black Caps batsman Ross Taylor scored 23 off 22 balls for Guyana – their eventual top score – before he was trapped in front by Andre Russell.
In the early game, the defending champion Barbados Tridents including Mitchell Santner and Corey Anderson suffered their third loss from four matches.
Anderson scored 31 off 19 balls in the Tridents’ total of 151-7, then Santner conceded 18 runs off two overs of spin as St Kitts and Nevis Patriots opener Evin Lewis plundered 89 off 60 balls. The Patriots won by six wickets with three balls to spare.
Trinbago Knight Riders – coached by Brendon McCullum and including Black Caps Colin Munro and Tim Seifert – top the table with three wins from as many matches.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...-ali-in-hot-water-in-caribbean-premier-league
Asif, batting for Jamaica Tallawahs in Wednesday’s (NZT) match against Guyana Amazon Warriors in Trinidad, objected strongly to words from West Indies pace bowler Paul after he was dismissed for three.
As Paul appeared to give Asif a verbal send-off, the batsman gave a backhand swat of his bat in the bowler’s direction, narrowly missing his face.
Asif Ali of Jamaica Tallawahs takes aim towards Keemo Paul of Guyana Amazon Warriors in a Caribbean Premier League flashpoint.
Paul turned and confronted Asif once again as he left the field, as commentators speculated match referee Reon King would explore the incident further. There was no physical contact but officials usually take a dim view of threatening on-field behaviour.
The Tallawahs, including Black Caps batsman Glenn Phillips, had the final say in a five-wicket victory chasing a target of 110.
Phillips got them off to a rapid start, clouting two sixes in his knock of 26 off 18 balls. He sits third on the CPL runscoring charts, with 128 at an average of 33 and strike rate of 133.
Fellow Black Caps batsman Ross Taylor scored 23 off 22 balls for Guyana – their eventual top score – before he was trapped in front by Andre Russell.
In the early game, the defending champion Barbados Tridents including Mitchell Santner and Corey Anderson suffered their third loss from four matches.
Anderson scored 31 off 19 balls in the Tridents’ total of 151-7, then Santner conceded 18 runs off two overs of spin as St Kitts and Nevis Patriots opener Evin Lewis plundered 89 off 60 balls. The Patriots won by six wickets with three balls to spare.
Trinbago Knight Riders – coached by Brendon McCullum and including Black Caps Colin Munro and Tim Seifert – top the table with three wins from as many matches.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...-ali-in-hot-water-in-caribbean-premier-league
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Pakistan cricket international Asif Ali faces disciplinary action after swatting his bat within centimetres of bowler Keemo Paul’s face in a heated Caribbean Premier League match.
Asif, batting for Jamaica Tallawahs in Wednesday’s (NZT) match against Guyana Amazon Warriors in Trinidad, objected strongly to words from West Indies pace bowler Paul after he was dismissed for three.
As Paul appeared to give Asif a verbal send-off, the batsman gave a backhand swat of his bat in the bowler’s direction, narrowly missing his face.
Asif Ali of Jamaica Tallawahs takes aim towards Keemo Paul of Guyana Amazon Warriors in a Caribbean Premier League flashpoint.
Paul turned and confronted Asif once again as he left the field, as commentators speculated match referee Reon King would explore the incident further. There was no physical contact but officials usually take a dim view of threatening on-field behaviour.
The Tallawahs, including Black Caps batsman Glenn Phillips, had the final say in a five-wicket victory chasing a target of 110.
Phillips got them off to a rapid start, clouting two sixes in his knock of 26 off 18 balls. He sits third on the CPL runscoring charts, with 128 at an average of 33 and strike rate of 133.
Fellow Black Caps batsman Ross Taylor scored 23 off 22 balls for Guyana – their eventual top score – before he was trapped in front by Andre Russell.
In the early game, the defending champion Barbados Tridents including Mitchell Santner and Corey Anderson suffered their third loss from four matches.
Anderson scored 31 off 19 balls in the Tridents’ total of 151-7, then Santner conceded 18 runs off two overs of spin as St Kitts and Nevis Patriots opener Evin Lewis plundered 89 off 60 balls. The Patriots won by six wickets with three balls to spare.
Trinbago Knight Riders – coached by Brendon McCullum and including Black Caps Colin Munro and Tim Seifert – top the table with three wins from as many matches.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...-ali-in-hot-water-in-caribbean-premier-league
Needs to control his temper.
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Asif Ali guilty of breaching Code of Conduct
Jamaica Tallawahs batsman Asif Ali has been found guilty of breaching the Hero Caribbean Premier League (CPL) Code of Conduct. During the Tallawahs’ match against the Guyana Amazon Warriors on 25 August at Queen’s Park Oval, Ali swung his bat in the direction of opposition bowler Keemo Paul when he was dismissed in the eighth over of his team’s batting innings.
Ali was charged with being in breach of section 2.18 of the Code of Conduct, acting contrary to the spirit of the game. Ali admitted the offence and has been fined 20% of his match fee.
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Ish Sodhi to Asif Ali, out Caught by Lewis!! Asif Ali c Lewis b Ish Sodhi 14(10) [6s-1]
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Not that great the season after that one good innings for Asif.
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Not that great the season after that one good innings for Asif.
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Bowler started it. Bowler should also get penalized.
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Watched about 5 minutes of the match today in which Asif Ali shelled a sitter while fielding. Brings back painful flashbacks of his terrible drop during the WC vs Australia.
There's no way he's international standard. Doesn't bowl, can't field has way too few shots and bowlers figure him out after an innings or two.
There's no way he's international standard. Doesn't bowl, can't field has way too few shots and bowlers figure him out after an innings or two.
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Useful 41* (30) in the National T20 Cup today. But not much of a pressure situation.
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We really are desperate for a finisher. Khushdil hasn't been working out, and now we're turning back to Asif Ali, who already failed in a Pakistan shirt.
25 T20I's, Avg 18.4, SR 128.3 (isn't he supposed to be a big hitter?), high score of 41.
Is he really going to do much better this time?
25 T20I's, Avg 18.4, SR 128.3 (isn't he supposed to be a big hitter?), high score of 41.
Is he really going to do much better this time?
He also averages about half a dropped catch / match
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Not unless he has suddenly developed some sort of batting intuition. Last time I saw him he is a blind slogger who doesn't play balls on their merit. He can hit the ball a long way, but any bowler with some smarts will be able to fool him by mixing things up and make him pick the wrong balls to go after.
His shot selection is terrible.
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If you're a good bowler, you'll take the legside out of the game and bowl wider outside the off stump. Asif Ali would still try to hit a ball outside off on the leg side, resulting in easy catches.
He doesn't give himself time to settle and understand the situation, and I agree that he rarely plays balls on merit.
It should have been Azam Khan on the team instead, even though he's unfit, his shot selection and power-hitting is quite commendable.
Averages 25 with a SR of 145. Azam Khan averages 25 with an average of almost 160. Look at the difference.
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The fact that we keep going back to someone who is obviously not international class shows the lack of talent in the country.
Also, it says a lot about the collective quality of our domestic bowling attacks if they allow him to score consistently.
Also, it says a lot about the collective quality of our domestic bowling attacks if they allow him to score consistently.
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Fakhar Zaman is in the same category, hits shots by numbers like he's playing roulette. That's why so many of his shots end up cross bat, he'll end up dragging balls from outside offstump and getting top edges then looking at his bat like he's totally surprised.
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Yep, if Fakhar played proper strokes on deliveries outside the off stump, he'd be averaging in the mid 40s in T20 cricket, but his so called "aggressive" mindset means that he is mindlessly slogging deliveries to one side of the field.
Mohammad Yousuf would really help in this, he transformed Faheem Ashraf from a slogger into a capable batsman. I'd send Fakhar there as soon as possible.
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He seems to have improved a bit. Maybe Younis Khan can do some good work with him.
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Useless cricketer. Give Khushdil a proper go.
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I don't know how he makes it back into the team. You won't survive at this level if all you have is aerial shots, and couple that with zero batting sense its a recipe for disaster.
He got away with it in the Pakistan cup because of the 50m boundaries and the trundler packed attacks.
But expect the Wasim worshippers to defend this selection as well.
He got away with it in the Pakistan cup because of the 50m boundaries and the trundler packed attacks.
But expect the Wasim worshippers to defend this selection as well.
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What’s wrong with this guy and how is he continuously selected?
Does he have something which he can use to blackmail Misbah and Babar to select him?
Does he have something which he can use to blackmail Misbah and Babar to select him?
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He is the worst thing to happen
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Let’s hope he doesn’t get a Visa to enter India, because i can’t see Mohammad Wasim or Misbah dropping him.
Sad to say this, Pakistan lacks power hitters, and Asif Ali can hit them clean.
Sad to say this, Pakistan lacks power hitters, and Asif Ali can hit them clean.
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He hasn’t even connected with a couple of sixes in his recent innings. The only hitting he is going to do is straight to the fielder. He has been exposed for a while. Get him out and move on.
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Exposed badly. No temperament at all, the only thing he is good at is, I don’t know, he usually hits them clean but struggles for most periods till the bowler balls short to him that’s where his strengths lie. He can pull the short ball well but that only at Hassan Ali type pace.
Pakistan Needs to move on, I think people fergot he did a rahat Ali in the World Cup in 19.
Crunch moment bottler at its finest our Ali is.
Pakistan Needs to move on, I think people fergot he did a rahat Ali in the World Cup in 19.
Crunch moment bottler at its finest our Ali is.
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It’s just one innings…law of averages he’s been so poor for so long he was due to come Off. Only today he did well after numerous games
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But he did smash Nortje for 20 in the warm up match
Southee and Boult have been tormenting Pakistan since last year, hitting these two for sixes in a high pressure situation, that too in a World Cup is a massive deal. Not just the fact that it was a World Cup game, but to give the fans the sensation of revenge which they deserve so badly!
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Great Performance by Asif Ali, but people need to avoid calling him as good as Butler or de Villiers. This is his first good performance after three years of mediocrity. It's only the start for him Inshallah.
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Asif Ali is a lottery considering depth of batting of PCT. He is needed because he is the only player that can create impact at the end.
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Very happy for him. Glad he stepped up today. He looks by miles the best Pakistani middle order bat over all the PSLs, he's so impactful there with a striking ability which only the likes of maybe Sharjeel has (who I wouldn't want in the team anyway). I don't mind having that sort of player at 6 or 7, we really do not have many choices there.
Even Iftikhar while I do think can be a good T20 batsman, I don't see as that ball one coming in hitting sort of guy to come in late.
The guy has shown what he can do in multiple PSLs and even in the England ODI series we got flashes of it. He's more than a mere hack, he hits so cleanly on song. Wish he can step up consistently. The issue is his age, don't have any time to teach him, if he was even 24 I'd be playing him every T20 game fail or not, he's just got that ability to work with unlike the others for that lower middle order position.
Even Iftikhar while I do think can be a good T20 batsman, I don't see as that ball one coming in hitting sort of guy to come in late.
The guy has shown what he can do in multiple PSLs and even in the England ODI series we got flashes of it. He's more than a mere hack, he hits so cleanly on song. Wish he can step up consistently. The issue is his age, don't have any time to teach him, if he was even 24 I'd be playing him every T20 game fail or not, he's just got that ability to work with unlike the others for that lower middle order position.
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