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Is Asif Ali the clean striker we need in the middle overs?

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deems

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I rate his hitting ability second to none in current Pak hitters. I see him making the Pak team very soon.
 
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Hacks are needed in ODI. Should replace either Hafeez or Malik within a year.
 
I agree, we need some power in the middle period. Umar akmal doesn't want to learn. Malik can't play fast bowling to save his life. Asif hits them clean. I've followed him since 2013 if I'm correct.
 
Very underrated this guy can be very useful for pak in t20s he can hit the sixes with ease both to spinner and fast bowler
 
No he is a hack.In the mould of khurram manzoor who is one of the worst batsman I have ever seen.He should be no where near the team.
 
I would rather have Rizwan as clean striker than him, only playing in IU due to friendship...
 
badsha001 said:
I would rather have Rizwan as clean striker than him, only playing in IU due to friendship...
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Rizwan isn't even a hitter. Just an accumulator. Have too many in the team already. Really need someone who can take the game away from the opposition.
 
No, complete hack, will falter MASSIVELY in ODIs, at best maybe a T20 option, but very limited and relies on brainless bowling in his arc.
 
nope


guy averages 19 in LIST A

I mean come on we need some standards.


The only place i see for him is as a t20 opener , and that too because we are desperate
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
nope


guy averages 19 in LIST A

I mean come on we need some standards.


The only place i see for him is as a t20 opener , and that too because we are desperate
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Even as a T20 opener I reckon the better bowling units will work him out. He is a clean striker off length balls but he was clueless against the short stuff and didn't deal too well with variations either. Again I will credit him with how good he is at hitting the other deliveries and how good his hitting technique is but the worst part about him is that he doesn't seem to have much batting intelligence. Last match he hit 10 off 2 balls yet the over was a waste because he kept trying to swing wildly. He'll be an improvement over the likes of Hafeez I reckon in T20s. He may be a decent lower order batsman in T20s where he has just one job but I don't have much hope.


This just shows how average our batting reserves are. A guy who averages 19 in LA is being considered for selection by fans.
 
deems said:
Rizwan isn't even a hitter. Just an accumulator. Have too many in the team already. Really need someone who can take the game away from the opposition.
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Have you seen his batting lately, he really improved...
 
People keep on making fun of this guy calling him Misbah's buddy and what not, I tuned in expecting him to be a bum but he can actually smash the ball a bit and I would definitely consider him at the T20 level to begin with and take it from there
 
badsha001 said:
Have you seen his batting lately, he really improved...
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Asif can hit from ball one, Rizwan cannot. Put it this way, Asif, in my opinion has the ability to change a game in a matter of couple of overs. That's what we need in t20. A quick fire 30. Hopefully he goes big tomorrow. I've seen him bat for a long time now. He can hit.
 
Rizwan should not be even playing cricket; he is that bad
 
Decision of Inclusion in playing 11 is too early i think. He may be hang on with the team just like Nawaz. But i really think Hussain Talat is far better option.
 
Asif Ali is a clean striker. No blind slogs. Pak can use him at No.6 as a finisher and enforcer.
 
Aaaaaannd . Booom. Clean striker like I said. Him and Talat for no. 5 and 6 in Pak t20 squad.
 
Worth a try in the T20 team... if he comes off he will be destructive.
 
He can be considered for the T20I squad, but no way should he be considered for the ODI squad.
 
Asif Ali, Talat are definitely coming in T20I team then to ODI, some fat will be shed aka seniors. Malik may still retain his place. Immad would have tough time with Shadab and Fahim in the picture. Talat will give tough time to Malik/Hafeez/Haris. We are still shot of couple of batsmen. It will take 2 years to recycle all the garbage and get better stroke makers... PSL is producing bowlers but not enough batsmen unfortunately. Even useless seniors are not getting replaced.

On bowling front things are much better, with Afridi, Musa(who was very unfortunate to miss out) we are getting bite back...
 
Mercurial said:
He can be considered for the T20I squad, but no way should he be considered for the ODI squad.
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I should have mentioned that in my opening post. He should only be considered for the t20 squad. Doesn't have the technique nor temperament to play the longer formats but he is in contention for the series against with hear.
 
Asif Ali doesn't get much love due to his friendship with Misbah and playing in the PSL mostly because of it.

Still I like him. A reason to like him is the fact that he isn't an 30+ guy and can hit the ball big.

I am sure if he is given a professional set up and good coaching advice, he'd come good and show some consistency.
 
yasir said:
Asif Ali, Talat are definitely coming in T20I team then to ODI, some fat will be shed aka seniors. Malik may still retain his place. Immad would have tough time with Shadab and Fahim in the picture. Talat will give tough time to Malik/Hafeez/Haris. We are still shot of couple of batsmen. It will take 2 years to recycle all the garbage and get better stroke makers... PSL is producing bowlers but not enough batsmen unfortunately. Even useless seniors are not getting replaced.

On bowling front things are much better, with Afridi, Musa(who was very unfortunate to miss out) we are getting bite back...
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For a second there I thought you mean Shahid, the other Afridi still hasn't completely registered.
 
He has potential, but a bit reluctant to select a guy who's poor in list A and first class cricket, with a average domestic T20 record to boot too (despite a good PSL series).

Pretty against picking just T20 specialists unless it's solely for the T20 world cup (and even then ideally no). See T20s more as practice to work out the best teams for ODIs.
 
He should be drafted into 20 20 team as soon as possible , and even in OD he can be ideal number 6 .
 
Hussain Talat has the higher ceiling. Talat is also a lot younger, plus hes an all rounder.

With Talat and Ashraf, Pak dont really need Asif.
 
I like this top 5 in T20Is:

Fakhar
Babar
Talat
Sarfraz*+
Asif

Not a fan of Friend, but he's much better than Waterboy, Haxood, Mental midget, Selfie, etc.

Until we find an opener he can be in the team.
 
Sirris said:
So we should stick with Hafeez and Shehzad? Oh wait, there strike rotation isn't that great either.
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I think we need to find a solid dynamic batsman to bat at 5. Having Talat, Shadab, Asif and Faheem at 5,6,7 and 8 can lead us to trouble if wickets fall early at the top.
 
People advocating his selection should have a look at his LO domestic stats. He averages in teens.

I know stats dont mean everything but if they are so miserably poor for a guy who has placed a decent amount of games, they need to be respected.

We could make a case of talent for a guy who averages a mediocre 30-35 in domestics but t Asif averages something like 18 or 19. Cannot ignore this big sign.
 
deems said:
I should have mentioned that in my opening post. He should only be considered for the t20 squad. Doesn't have the technique nor temperament to play the longer formats but he is in contention for the series against with hear.
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Yes he should be in T20s.
 
Madplayer said:
People advocating his selection should have a look at his LO domestic stats. He averages in teens.

I know stats dont mean everything but if they are so miserably poor for a guy who has placed a decent amount of games, they need to be respected.

We could make a case of talent for a guy who averages a mediocre 30-35 in domestics but t Asif averages something like 18 or 19. Cannot ignore this big sign.
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At 4 down or 5 down in T20s you just need 20 quick runs to change the game
 
Guy can also open the innings as he has done in the past for Faislabad.
 
Madplayer said:
People advocating his selection should have a look at his LO domestic stats. He averages in teens.

I know stats dont mean everything but if they are so miserably poor for a guy who has placed a decent amount of games, they need to be respected.

We could make a case of talent for a guy who averages a mediocre 30-35 in domestics but t Asif averages something like 18 or 19. Cannot ignore this big sign.
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Yeah that is exactly my concern. I remember watching him back in the days of the Faisalabad Wolves; he was very mediocre. He can hit a long ball but is very inconsistent, often mishitting in the air and getting out. It would probably be like having a new Afridi. He was nearly caught out twice some games ago on his way to scoring 20 odd. I understand why people are interested though; we don't have a lot of big hitting options.
 
Madplayer said:
People advocating his selection should have a look at his LO domestic stats. He averages in teens.

I know stats dont mean everything but if they are so miserably poor for a guy who has placed a decent amount of games, they need to be respected.

We could make a case of talent for a guy who averages a mediocre 30-35 in domestics but t Asif averages something like 18 or 19. Cannot ignore this big sign.
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You need to pick players according to the requirements of the team. A good power hitter down the order in T20s is exactly what we need and he fits the bill better any other player.

Sure, if he fails you can throw him out but his performances in PSL warrant a call-up.
 
What a clean striker he is indeed! Fearless and looks into the eyes of the opposition no matter what the situation is. I´ve gradually become a fan of Asif Ali and yesterday´s cameo was the final blow for me. Find of the tournament for me.

Select him for Pakistan right away!
 
Red Devil said:
You need to pick players according to the requirements of the team. A good power hitter down the order in T20s is exactly what we need and he fits the bill better any other player.

Sure, if he fails you can throw him out but his performances in PSL warrant a call-up.
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Not just T20, in ODI if you want to score 100+(on consistent basis) in last 10 overs, you need 2/3 power hitters. Asif, Talat and Faheem can help us achieve that. Malik, Sarfraz, Hafeez are dud against pacers, existing seniors can never do that. Wickets in ODI are mostly flat, specially in ICC WC, you have to make a team that can score 330+. Even Fakhir was billed as hack, but he helped us to score 340 in CT final, if he was not there, there was no way we could have score those runs...If you don't pick these guys, our par score will be 250 like in NZ series, fundamental problem in ODI is lack of power in the team...Just look at ENG...We lost Sharjeel at worse time, otherwise we would not be debating that...
 
Why not? whats the harm in trying him out..he could do a job for us in T20's and he may only improve as he is given more exposure..definatley not a Test player but in tamasha cricket he can help us out..
 
He was striking ball effortlessly yday... what hitting
Dont know much abt him but he has been special this season
 
He could be a decent temporary solution for the nr 6/7 spot for the death overs.

If you send him earlier than that then he will tuk tuk half of the time.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
He could be a decent temporary solution for the nr 6/7 spot for the death overs.

If you send him earlier than that then he will tuk tuk half of the time.
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He had to come early yday bcz of fall of wkts and he didn't do tuk tuk, he smashed them out of park
 
Asif Ali is good for T20's, should be included in the squad against WestIndies along with Hussain Talat.
 
It would be awesome if this guy was elegible for Pakistan in ODI and T20, but unfortunately he does not hold the qualifications that Hafeez and Shoaib Malik have who are both certified MBA's.

MBA = Mediocre Batsman Always
 
Just remember he was selected because he was Misbahs friend and for nothing else [MENTION=139288]Abdul[/MENTION]
 
Asif Ali, Hussain Talat and Sohail
Akhtar all three need to be on the fringes of the T20 team.
 
Lucky, Choked under pressure first and then made his second chance count under pressure
 
Said it from the very first match that guy has got hitting ability. He showed that in season 1 as well.

Some people were making fun
 
I will be honest, at the start of the tournament I didn't think he was good enough. But the more I have seen of him I realised I was wrong on him. He should be given a chance in the national team because we don't have many players who can clear the boundary like he can. Credit to Misbah for sticking with him.
 
Asif Ali is so weak against the short ball that even he knows that's how he will be targeted so he set himself up for it and Hassan Ali obliged. Smart guy :troll
 
Rana said:
Lucky, Choked under pressure first and then made his second chance count under pressure
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In his own words during the post match interview he said that he was under no pressure at all, if he was he'd not have played that initial shot, his goal is to play his natural game regardless of the situation and has done the job in other domestic KO games as well which were great experiences.
 
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Definitely someone to work on as a hitter down the order.

Has the ability to strike it clean and big.
 
Get him in the team now. Pakistan doesnt have a cleaner hitter of the cricket ball at the moment.
 
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