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Australia and New Zealand recognize Basmati rice as Pakistani.

Should Indians accept this and keep their hands off Pakistani basmati?

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India to lose ‘battle for Basmati’ against Pakistan? Australia-New Zealand give shock to…

Basmati rice is known for its quality and unique aroma and is popular in the world. But do you know from which country it originated? Well, this is the current ongoing battle between India and Pakistan, with both countries trying to win it. Recently, both New Zealand and Australia have officially recognised Basmati as a Pakistani product. Now, this battle has reached the European Union. Both India and Pakistan are hoping that the decision will come in their favour. The country that wins this battle will be granted Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status. This status will provide intellectual property rights to products related to a specific geographical area.

What Is At Stake?

Basmati rice falls in a luxury rice brand, and it is a major agricultural product for both countries and is an important part of their export economies. India and Pakistan both earn huge amounts of foreign exchange every year by exporting Basmati. The rice is famous all over the world for its aroma and taste.

Cultural Significance

Basmati rice is an integral part of the culture and cuisine of both countries. We cannot imagine biryani without basmati. The rice is cooked in homes on special occasions or for special dishes.

Quality Recognition

The PGI designation enables products to be marketed at elevated prices due to their acknowledged quality. Both nations are making significant efforts to obtain this status. The country that achieves this designation will have the authority to set global prices for Basmati rice.

Notably, India applied for the PGI status in 2018 but neighbouring Pakistan opposed the application. Both the countries have filed cases against each other in the European Union and India.

What’s The History?

In 1998, the government of United Kingdom tested the purity of Basmati rice due to concerns over adulteration and mislabelling. The project aimed to check Basmati rice fulfils specific quality standards and originated from the traditional Basmati-growing regions of India and Pakistan.

India and Pakistan petitioned the United States Department of Agriculture and the Federal Trade Commission to prevent rice grown in America from being labelled as Basmati.

 
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Yet Laila, Indians, selling as Pakistani Rice in UK. They have a monopoly regardless

Supermarket Ramadan promotions for East End and KTC :facepalm
 
This is why 1947 was a blunder. Basmati rice is obviously the shared legacy of both nations because we are one nation anyway. Within a 100 years or so, after we have reunified these kind of debates would rightly be put to rest.
 
This is why 1947 was a blunder. Basmati rice is obviously the shared legacy of both nations because we are one nation anyway. Within a 100 years or so, after we have reunified these kind of debates would rightly be put to rest.

That's lovely but until then pls keep your hands off basmati :afridi

It's ok you have this , bon apetit

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All Indians in UK or india should pay royalties if selling Pakistani rice or using the term Basmati

That's fair
The word Basmati itself is a Sanskrit word and a Urdu speaker wants to sue Indians for using a Sanskrit word. :vk2

Basmati comes from Sanskrit - Vaas(Smell/Odor) + Maati (boiled rice).

Basmati or fragrant rice was grown in Indian subcontinent for centuries. Pakistan should rename Sanskrit Basmiti to a nice Urdu/Persian/Arabic word - KhushbooBaranj or IttarArz. Would suit more to Pakistani sensibilities. :cobra
 
The word Basmati itself is a Sanskrit word and a Urdu speaker wants to sue Indians for using a Sanskrit word. :vk2

Basmati comes from Sanskrit - Vaas(Smell/Odor) + Maati (boiled rice).

Basmati or fragrant rice was grown in Indian subcontinent for centuries. Pakistan should rename Sanskrit Basmiti to a nice Urdu/Persian/Arabic word - KhushbooBaranj or IttarArz. Would suit more to Pakistani sensibilities. :cobra

You keep the Indian dictionary updated while Pakistan sells its rice known as basmati. English use the word alcohol but its derived from Arabic. Many hindi words also come from Arabic language.

Its about the trademark. New Zealand and Australia have confirmed basmati is a Pakistani trademark, accept it and buy some Pakistani basmati, pop on your fav vegetables and enjoy
 
The word “Basmati” comes from the word “Vasmati” in Sanskrit which means “fragrant” or “aromatic” .


Basmati rice, known for its distinctive fragrance and long grains, has been cultivated for centuries in the Indian subcontinent, particularly in the Punjab region of India and Pakistan.

Point 1: it has been in exsistence way before Md.qasim created Pakistan or however the story goes.

Point 2 : origin of its name in Sanskrit which means some Hindu probably figured it out the cultivation etc etc back in the day .

Point 3: maybe he might have been a Hindu from the previous Bharat which is part of current day Pakistan. Due to partition that claim is lost as the creator is not from team Md. Qasim

Point 4: source above is from Google, ChatGPT etc so take it up with them. It is not my story.

So that ends the debate. India gets this one.
 
You keep the Indian dictionary updated while Pakistan sells its rice known as basmati. English use the word alcohol but its derived from Arabic. Many hindi words also come from Arabic language.

Its about the trademark. New Zealand and Australia have confirmed basmati is a Pakistani trademark, accept it and buy some Pakistani basmati, pop on your fav vegetables and enjoy
Words can be used from any language. That is how it has always been. Pakistan can claim Basmati rice as their own and so can India.

You are the one that said India should not even use the word Basmati which is laugh worthy. Paying royalties over it is an even bigger joke.
Basmati rice was grown in Indian subcontinent for centuries. No one has monopoly over it. Just because Pakistan split from India and Basmati is used in all of your Biryani dishes, does not make Basmati a product of Pakistan. The picture you posted that you thought was funny was taking a jibe at Tamils and Mallus. Nice work there.

You need to brush up your history before taking silly potshots at India.
 
Genuine question: are you Arab ? I don’t see them use “Khan” so curious.
Khan itself is a Pagan Title used by Mongols. Turkic people adopted the name and when they came to India, they gave that title to locals who converted to Islam and fought for Mughals and the Delhi Sultanate. Many Jatts, Gujjars and Rajputs took that name after they joined forces with the Turkic invaders. Can't beat them, join them.
 
Pakistan is a product of Arab and British conquests, now they took the chai too . Modi must be pulling his leaves out . :sachin

Pakistan is a product of Arab and British conquests and hence they looks like Italians now. The entire world is awe of Pakistan. Anything else chacha?

:ik2
 
Khan itself is a Pagan Title used by Mongols. Turkic people adopted the name and when they came to India, they gave that title to locals who converted to Islam and fought for Mughals and the Delhi Sultanate. Many Jatts, Gujjars and Rajputs took that name after they joined forces with the Turkic invaders. Can't beat them, join them.
What amuses me is he is neither British (maybe technically) or Arab, he takes pride in a Pakistan “inventing” the Basmati. I can understand if some ancestor invented that in some pind in presnt day Pak-Punjab but is it just me or is ot surreal that he is taking credit as a proxy that Pakistan which was conquered by Arab and British was the one that produced Basmati when in fact that is being produced since most modern day religions were even preached 🤣
 
Just googled, it says Basmati is originated from foothills of Himalayas which is cureently in Pakistan. However when it was invented, that land belong to India as there was no Pakistan back then and Basmati is a sanskrit word. So Pakistani's cant take credit now for its origins.
 
Just googled, it says Basmati is originated from foothills of Himalayas which is cureently in Pakistan. However when it was invented, that land belong to India as there was no Pakistan back then and Basmati is a sanskrit word. So Pakistani's cant take credit now for its origins.
Taking credit is free bro, if that makes KingKhan’s day, let it pass 😅
 
Not a fan of rice anyway, who cares? If anything is worth fighting over it should be naan bread.

Now that is one way to prove you are an anglicized Brit 👍

Having said that do you want credit for it ? I will give it to you. I know an Afghani takeout near my house, the naan is delicioso!!! well done 👍
 
Just googled, it says Basmati is originated from foothills of Himalayas which is cureently in Pakistan. However when it was invented, that land belong to India as there was no Pakistan back then and Basmati is a sanskrit word. So Pakistani's cant take credit now for its origins.

The earliest mention of basmati rice was made in the epic Heer Ranjha composed by the Punjabi poet, Waris Shah in 1766 - Wikipedia.

Who did the land belong to in 1766?
 
Words can be used from any language. That is how it has always been. Pakistan can claim Basmati rice as their own and so can India.

You are the one that said India should not even use the word Basmati which is laugh worthy. Paying royalties over it is an even bigger joke.
Basmati rice was grown in Indian subcontinent for centuries. No one has monopoly over it. Just because Pakistan split from India and Basmati is used in all of your Biryani dishes, does not make Basmati a product of Pakistan. The picture you posted that you thought was funny was taking a jibe at Tamils and Mallus. Nice work there.

You need to brush up your history before taking silly potshots at India.

Lol not a language issue ,dont use the trademark basmati . New Zealand and Australia have officially recognised this as Pakistani, eu will likely follow next .

pls brush up on basic businesses and this is history being made .

Besides Indian recipe rice dishes are overly spiced with strange spices and no meat. Leave the basmati rice to Pakistan, call yours modi rice and some carrots and peas .
 
Not a fan of rice anyway, who cares? If anything is worth fighting over it should be naan bread.

Delhi sultanate introduced naan bread. Muslim rulers also with basmati.

Indians claim they are invaders now they want to claim the inventions of their invaders, confused people.

Therefore both basmati and naan should be given trademarks to the Islamic republic
 
Delhi sultanate introduced naan bread. Muslim rulers also with basmati.

Indians claim they are invaders now they want to claim the inventions of their invaders, confused people.

Therefore both basmati and naan should be given trademarks to the Islamic republic

Pretty easy to see where food originated just by following diets before globalisaion mixed everything up. The further east you go it will be more rice based. The further west, you will see more /bread/roti/naan. Obviously all have their own versions of each, but there is a definite preference for one over the other depending which direction you go.
 
Not a fan of rice anyway, who cares? If anything is worth fighting over it should be naan bread.

Naan is a healthier option because rice has far more carbohydrates.

Anyway, I like rice as a biryani lover. I also like naan for health reason.
 
Indians claim they are invaders now they want to claim the inventions of their invaders, confused people.

Therefore both basmati and naan should be given trademarks to the Islamic republic

Why not claim the vada pav while you're at it ? Throw in the lifeless idli and dosa as well.
 
Just googled, it says Basmati is originated from foothills of Himalayas which is cureently in Pakistan. However when it was invented, that land belong to India as there was no Pakistan back then and Basmati is a sanskrit word. So Pakistani's cant take credit now for its origins.
There was no India either. India was created after creation of Pakistan

Creation of united subcontinent goes to Aurugnzeb Alamgir.
 
Why not claim the vada pav while you're at it ? Throw in the lifeless idli and dosa as well.

Not a global market.

Samosa should the next food item on the list. Indians wont mind , another Delhi sultanate invention from the middle east
 
Not a global market.

Samosa should the next food item on the list. Indians wont mind , another Delhi sultanate invention from the middle east
You can have samosa which was brought to India by your Turkic ancestors. Unhealthy as F.
 
As per wikipedia, rice originated from China about 9000 years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rice_cultivation.

Indian subcontinent embraced it a bit later.
Recorded there.

Rice has been staple food in South India for millennia. A climate perfectly suited to grow rice. There is no evidence that any Chinese dude took rice seeds to South india and told the locals to grow there.
Rice is grown all throughout south and Southeast Asia for thousands of years. Chinese record their history. India does not.
 
Delhi sultanate introduced naan bread. Muslim rulers also with basmati.

Indians claim they are invaders now they want to claim the inventions of their invaders, confused people.

Therefore both basmati and naan should be given trademarks to the Islamic republic
May he Delhi sultanate introduced Naan from Central Asia. India already had roti which was eaten in north India. Naan is another way of making flat bread.
 
Going by many of the posts from some posters one would think Indians were just hunter gatherers until the great Feather hat wearing Turks showed them civilization:vk2

Thanks to the below people for showing Indians how to be civilized🙄

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Which Pakistani companies or companies of Pakistani origin (COPO) actually manufacture it ?.

Only people who migrated from Pakistan following partition do so ( wouhra & khera dynasties rooted in Pakistani Punjab); KTC , East End & Laila to name three. Also Heera and many others
 
Going by many of the posts from some posters one would think Indians were just hunter gatherers until the great Feather hat wearing Turks showed them civilization:vk2

Thanks to the below people for showing Indians how to be civilized🙄

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Indian food is heavily influenced by middle east especially Persia. Because of poverty and low grade ingredients, everything had to be doused in spice
 
Indian food is heavily influenced by middle east especially Persia. Because of poverty and low grade ingredients, everything had to be doused in spice
Indians already had good food. Civilizations thousands of miles away travelled thousands of miles by seas to get there those spices and trade with them.

India was also doing well when the Turkic Ghaznavi invaded and looted the wealth. India was always an agrarian society and civilized one. He was just a savage and a glorified robber. May be Pakistanis think he is a revolutionary. But history shows what he did to the people from North west part of India. It’s not hard to find material on Ghaznavi’s exploits in India.

The only thing these Turko-Mongols did was to fusion Persian and Indian cuisine with the abundance of spices and food available in India. Not a great achievement. There are fusion foods happening till today in India. Indo-Chinese, Indo-Greek, Indo-Italian cuisines are eaten everyday in all cities. Just add Indian spices, vegetables and cook Indian way of foreign food and it becomes fusion food. Not any great achievement.
 
Indians already had good food. Civilizations thousands of miles away travelled thousands of miles by seas to get there those spices and trade with them.

India was also doing well when the Turkic Ghaznavi invaded and looted the wealth. India was always an agrarian society and civilized one. He was just a savage and a glorified robber. May be Pakistanis think he is a revolutionary. But history shows what he did to the people from North west part of India. It’s not hard to find material on Ghaznavi’s exploits in India.

The only thing these Turko-Mongols did was to fusion Persian and Indian cuisine with the abundance of spices and food available in India. Not a great achievement. There are fusion foods happening till today in India. Indo-Chinese, Indo-Greek, Indo-Italian cuisines are eaten everyday in all cities. Just add Indian spices, vegetables and cook Indian way of foreign food and it becomes fusion food. Not any great achievement.
Only native Indian cuisine is vadavpav
 
Do all these people (Tajikistanis, Saudi Arabians etc) that you guys claim heritage of acknowledge that you are one of them?

Or is it all identity crisis fuelled one-way traffic?
 
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What identity should Pakistanis have in your opinion?
You cant say what identity should Pakistan HAVE. You cant pick and choose your identity.

Our identity is Indian at the end of the day. The word India comes from Indus which is in Pakistan. Pakistan desperately tries to hide the Indian identity and idolize the Mughals by using names like Taimur, Babar, Ghazi for their millitary tanks and missiles.

A distinct Pakistani identity is also not possible, as it will take atleast 100 years to develop that history and than the identity.

We are Indians by identity not by nationality, but I see this hurts the pride of many people around here.

When you take an approach that you will only choose Arabs and Muslim heroes from pre 1947 it shows the apartheid and racist approach of Pakistan that only Muslims of pre 1947 matter and no one else.

Har Gobind Khorana a Nobel winner was born in Pakistan side.
 
You cant say what identity should Pakistan HAVE. You cant pick and choose your identity.

Our identity is Indian at the end of the day. The word India comes from Indus which is in Pakistan. Pakistan desperately tries to hide the Indian identity and idolize the Mughals by using names like Taimur, Babar, Ghazi for their millitary tanks and missiles.

A distinct Pakistani identity is also not possible, as it will take atleast 100 years to develop that history and than the identity.

We are Indians by identity not by nationality, but I see this hurts the pride of many people around here.

When you take an approach that you will only choose Arabs and Muslim heroes from pre 1947 it shows the apartheid and racist approach of Pakistan that only Muslims of pre 1947 matter and no one else.

Har Gobind Khorana a Nobel winner was born in Pakistan side.

So are you saying Indians should not wear jeans or skirts because that would mean they are not following their Indian identity?
 
You said Pakistanis should be Indian, so surely so should Indians.
I said Pakistan should own up to their Indian identiy. But there has been a move by the religious sector of the establishments that tried to force a Muslim culture. Alot of non Muslim personalities names have been vanished from our streets and books.

For example, India owes up to all its Muslim and Non Muslim rulers and heroes, Pakistan meanwhile keeps on Muslim heros and rulers but doesnt want to recognize any non muslim hero or ruler.

As for the Basmati thing, you are in advertising you know these stuff better. My whole issue with the Himalaya Salt thing was that even though it was our salt, it was the Indian marketing companies that were able to brand it as premium. We woke up and decided to take it back.

So from this Basmati issue, i hope Pakistan knows how to make a good buck rather than take pride over a rice but dont know how to brand it and make money.
 
I said Pakistan should own up to their Indian identiy. But there has been a move by the religious sector of the establishments that tried to force a Muslim culture. Alot of non Muslim personalities names have been vanished from our streets and books.

For example, India owes up to all its Muslim and Non Muslim rulers and heroes, Pakistan meanwhile keeps on Muslim heros and rulers but doesnt want to recognize any non muslim hero or ruler.

As for the Basmati thing, you are in advertising you know these stuff better. My whole issue with the Himalaya Salt thing was that even though it was our salt, it was the Indian marketing companies that were able to brand it as premium. We woke up and decided to take it back.

So from this Basmati issue, i hope Pakistan knows how to make a good buck rather than take pride over a rice but dont know how to brand it and make money.

If you are talking about what they teach in Pakistan education syllabus then I agree with you. Should be based on accuracy not wishes. That said, I don't know what they teach so am just assuming that is what you mean.

If you are talking about culture, not really sure what your complaint is. Both Indian and Pakistani culture seems to be a mix of modern and old.
 
If you are talking about what they teach in Pakistan education syllabus then I agree with you. Should be based on accuracy not wishes. That said, I don't know what they teach so am just assuming that is what you mean.

If you are talking about culture, not really sure what your complaint is. Both Indian and Pakistani culture seems to be a mix of modern and old.
im talking from both aspects. It should be taught, but the cultural manipulation that was done by the army should not had happened.

If you look at the images of old times, females used to wear saris in Pakistan, but than the islamization process came and slowly our culture also changed, the dress code changed. We had shalwar kameez coming in as uniforms at one point.
 
Yaar market me naqli basmati bohot aaraha hae. It’s a genuine issue and someone needs to highlight it.
 
The word Basmati itself is a Sanskrit word and a Urdu speaker wants to sue Indians for using a Sanskrit word. :vk2

Basmati comes from Sanskrit - Vaas(Smell/Odor) + Maati (boiled rice).

Basmati or fragrant rice was grown in Indian subcontinent for centuries. Pakistan should rename Sanskrit Basmiti to a nice Urdu/Persian/Arabic word - KhushbooBaranj or IttarArz. Would suit more to Pakistani sensibilities. :cobra
All words come from another language in some form or another…. you guys?!??
 
Like always, not understanding the point.

The nationality of India and the Indian identity are two separate things.

The Indus river flows from Pakistan

You cant say what identity should Pakistan HAVE. You cant pick and choose your identity.

Our identity is Indian at the end of the day. The word India comes from Indus which is in Pakistan. Pakistan desperately tries to hide the Indian identity and idolize the Mughals by using names like Taimur, Babar, Ghazi for their millitary tanks and missiles.

A distinct Pakistani identity is also not possible, as it will take atleast 100 years to develop that history and than the identity.

We are Indians by identity not by nationality, but I see this hurts the pride of many people around here.

When you take an approach that you will only choose Arabs and Muslim heroes from pre 1947 it shows the apartheid and racist approach of Pakistan that only Muslims of pre 1947 matter and no one else.

Har Gobind Khorana a Nobel winner was born in Pakistan side.
What does the Indus have to do with anything? :ROFLMAO:

It's a nation for MUSLIMS to feel safe from persecution as they were under ranjit and the sikh empire before Britain took over
 
What does the Indus have to do with anything? :ROFLMAO:

It's a nation for MUSLIMS to feel safe from persecution as they were under ranjit and the sikh empire before Britain took over
I rest my case. No point arguing further if you dont know the basics.
 
The word Basmati itself is a Sanskrit word and a Urdu speaker wants to sue Indians for using a Sanskrit word. :vk2

Basmati comes from Sanskrit - Vaas(Smell/Odor) + Maati (boiled rice).

Basmati or fragrant rice was grown in Indian subcontinent for centuries. Pakistan should rename Sanskrit Basmiti to a nice Urdu/Persian/Arabic word - KhushbooBaranj or IttarArz. Would suit more to Pakistani sensibilities. :cobra
Pakistan isn't busy renaming everything to reframe history, India aka Bharat is.

If anything , Pakistan should be more hardline but that would be extremist. Isn't it?
 
The word Basmati itself is a Sanskrit word and a Urdu speaker wants to sue Indians for using a Sanskrit word. :vk2

Basmati comes from Sanskrit - Vaas(Smell/Odor) + Maati (boiled rice).

Basmati or fragrant rice was grown in Indian subcontinent for centuries. Pakistan should rename Sanskrit Basmiti to a nice Urdu/Persian/Arabic word - KhushbooBaranj or IttarArz. Would suit more to Pakistani sensibilities. :cobra
It's India that's renaming everything to erase history. Pakistanis should be more hard-line too. You would say extremists. Isn't it?
 
It's India that's renaming everything to erase history. Pakistanis should be more hard-line too. You would say extremists. Isn't it?
So what was the original name of Basmati? I can’t find any nice Arabic or Farsi name for it anywhere🙏
 
Living in Europe and eating trash like Risotto that passes off as rice, I can see why you might feel so. 😉

I don't rate rice full stop, but agree Italians should stick to what they do best, pizza and pasta. No one cares about the rest let's face it.
 
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