Is India the mentally strongest team vs Pakistan the mentally weakest in cricket?

[BouncerGuy]

One way to judge a team’s mental strength is by how they claw their way back into games from seemingly impossible positions. Recently, India has shown exceptional resilience under pressure, while Pakistan has choked under little pressure.

India's Mental Toughness: A Testament to Resilience

India's recent performances demonstrate a remarkable ability to fight back from challenging situations:

Chennai Test vs. Bangladesh: From a precarious 4/96, India not only recovered but dominated, eventually securing a comprehensive 280-run victory.

T20 World Cup 2024 Final vs. South Africa: With South Africa needing only 30 runs from 30 balls with 6 wickets in hand, India held their nerve and clinched the title.

T20I vs. Pakistan: Defending a seemingly low total of 159, India showcased incredible composure, restricting Pakistan to just 158 despite them having 8 wickets in hand with 40 runs required from 40 balls.

These instances highlight India's ability to maintain focus and execute under immense pressure, making them a formidable opponent.

Pakistan's Mental Fragility: Choking Under Pressure

In contrast, Pakistan has shown a tendency to falter when the pressure mounts:

Test vs. Bangladesh: Despite declaring at a commanding total of nearly 500, Pakistan lost by a humiliating 10 wickets, demonstrating a lack of mental fortitude in the second innings.

T20 World Cup 2022 vs. India: Pakistan, despite having the match seemingly within their grasp, choked under pressure and lost to India.

These instances reveal a recurring pattern of Pakistan struggling to finish games, particularly when victory is within reach.

Other Contenders for Mental Strength:

Australia's Resurgence: Australia, too, has demonstrated remarkable mental fortitude, particularly in the recently concluded ICC Men's World Cup 2023.

After a near-elimination during the group stages, Australia rallied to win the tournament, showcasing incredible resilience and adaptability. Their victory over India in the final, in front of a hostile 130,000-strong crowd, further underlines their mental toughness.

India vs. Australia: A Battle of Titans

The upcoming Test series between India and Australia will be a fascinating test of mental fortitude. Both teams possess a strong fighting spirit and the ability to claw their way back into games. This series is likely to reveal which team truly possesses the edge in mental resilience.

Real Question:

How does Pakistan overcome choking?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Don’t fall for the trap brother. Transitioning and rough patches are part of life. We find ourselves on the different levels in that process but the talent and love for the game that exists in Pakistan will ensure the team is back on its feet soon and starts contending for title in the nearest future. Best thing about cricket is that the competition isn’t there as much so little bit of improvements, few good matches and boom you’re in a semi final.

But important thing is that corrective measures must be taken and tou must commit yourselves to a plan. Too much instability in Pakistan cricket has been catastrophic for you guys.


Regarding Bharat, you must realise that we had a decade of heart breaks and some that could have given us a heart attack.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't expect India to beat Austrlaia 5th test series in a row. Lyon is already ultra motivated for revenge.

 

[harshjoshi87]

Yes I agree with bhaijaan, Pakistan were finalists in Asia Cup 2022 as well as in T20 World Cup 2022. They played the semi final in T20 World Cup 2021 as well.

Pakistan needs to leave out the politicians from the team who are only there to make money & nothing else & bring in the performers.

I don't understand why was Mohd. Haris was sidelined after T20 World Cup 2022 as well as the batsman who hit a century against India Emerging team last year. He wasn't picked in any Pakistani team. Babar & other politicians in the team including Shaheen should be shown the door.

 

[mominsaigol]

Lol no, India loses its mental toughness in finals, and are lucky to have God send bumrah who's virtually the only bowler who can hold his nerve.

If they faced Australia they'd have lost before bumrah came back on.

Pakistan is mentally weak and have also losses finals but that's because their a weak team that miraculously made it and that luck was eventually going to run out.

India on the other hand loses the plot, especially rohit.

Kohli and bumrah are the only 2 who don't lose the plot but even kohli is always a 30% chance he'll perform and if he does the innings as a whole will be medicore and nothing special.

 

[harshjoshi87]

Lol no, India loses its mental toughness in finals, and are lucky to have God send bumrah who's virtually the only bowler who can hold his nerve.

If they faced Australia they'd have lost before bumrah came back on.

Pakistan is mentally weak and have also losses finals but that's because their a weak team that miraculously made it and that luck was eventually going to run out.

India on the other hand loses the plot, especially rohit.

Kohli and bumrah are the only 2 who don't lose the plot but even kohli is always a 30% chance he'll perform and if he does the innings as a whole will be medicore and nothing special.

Its only against Australia somehow they falter in the finals, they beat other teams in crunch matches easily. South Africa in T20 World Cup final recently, Sri Lanka in last year's Asia Cup final.

India have been able to beat Australia in pre-final matches even in Australia's strongest era in the mid 90's until 2007. It's somehow in finals, they lose the plot.

India beat Australia in 1998 ICC Knockout q/f
India beat Australia in 2000 ICC Knockout q/f
India beat Australia in 2007 T20 WC s/f
India beat Australia in 2008 CB Series finals
India beat Australia in 2016 T20 WC Super 8's(more or less q/f for both teams)

& recently defeated Australia in 2024 T20 WC Super 8's.

With Rishabh Pant(Australian nemesis) absent last year, Australia won the 2 finals.

 

[harshjoshi87]

Missed the 2011 ODI World Cup q/f as well. Another example of India defeating Australia in knockout match which isn't a final.

I hope India play Australia once again in the WTC 2025 final & put one across them to balance out the final results.

 

[uppercut]

Its only against Australia somehow they falter in the finals, they beat other teams in crunch matches easily. South Africa in T20 World Cup final recently, Sri Lanka in last year's Asia Cup final.

India have been able to beat Australia in pre-final matches even in Australia's strongest era in the mid 90's until 2007. It's somehow in finals, they lose the plot.

India beat Australia in 1998 ICC Knockout q/f
India beat Australia in 2000 ICC Knockout q/f
India beat Australia in 2007 T20 WC s/f
India beat Australia in 2008 CB Series finals
India beat Australia in 2016 T20 WC Super 8's(more or less q/f for both teams)

& recently defeated Australia in 2024 T20 WC Super 8's.

With Rishabh Pant(Australian nemesis) absent last year, Australia won the 2 finals.

good post .. pretty sure we beat them in 1983 WC and also the 1985 B&H World Championship where the tracer bullet was the MoM

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Australia and India have been the strongest teams for the last 15 years or so by far.
Aus edge out India in ICC finals while India has been spanking them in bilateral series. True closest rivalry in cricket left.

 

[pakistani pride]

Australia and India have been the strongest teams for the last 15 years or so by far.
Aus edge out India in ICC finals while India has been spanking them in bilateral series. True closest rivalry in cricket left.

True India has been top 3 across formats for a very long time now, but no care for JAMODIS. Aus for sure not. They are and remain the No 1 team. So many WCs for a reason. India has done really well, there is basically only one sport in Pakistan and India. For Pak not even able to win games at home, shows how bad the team is. India is great in TESTS at home, home record of India in tests is indeed truly amazing.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

True India has been top 3 across formats for a very long time now, but no care for JAMODIS. Aus for sure not. They are and remain the No 1 team. So many WCs for a reason. India has done really well, there is basically only one sport in Pakistan and India. For Pak not even able to win games at home, shows how bad the team is. India is great in TESTS at home, home record of India in tests is indeed truly amazing.

I think India is rising in other sports too. and in ICC tournaments India is only 2nd to Australia in number of titles.
In the 21st century: Australia has 8 titles and India has 5. While H2H India and Australia are pretty close throughout all over and India has been improving in the last 10 years.

 

[kron]

Its only against Australia somehow they falter in the finals, they beat other teams in crunch matches easily. South Africa in T20 World Cup final recently, Sri Lanka in last year's Asia Cup final.

India have been able to beat Australia in pre-final matches even in Australia's strongest era in the mid 90's until 2007. It's somehow in finals, they lose the plot.

India beat Australia in 1998 ICC Knockout q/f
India beat Australia in 2000 ICC Knockout q/f
India beat Australia in 2007 T20 WC s/f
India beat Australia in 2008 CB Series finals
India beat Australia in 2016 T20 WC Super 8's(more or less q/f for both teams)

& recently defeated Australia in 2024 T20 WC Super 8's.

With Rishabh Pant(Australian nemesis) absent last year, Australia won the 2 finals.

No rishab
No jaiswal
No bumrah

Vs aus in 2023 wtc final.
That too in England post ipl
With no prep or rest.

Aus were prepared In advance.

 

[kron]

True India has been top 3 across formats for a very long time now, but no care for JAMODIS. Aus for sure not. They are and remain the No 1 team. So many WCs for a reason. India has done really well, there is basically only one sport in Pakistan and India. For Pak not even able to win games at home, shows how bad the team is. India is great in TESTS at home, home record of India in tests is indeed truly amazing.

India do well in hockey where they knocked aus out in olympics.

Also in wrestling, badminton etc.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

No rishab
No jaiswal
No bumrah

Vs aus in 2023 wtc final.
That too in England post ipl
With no prep or rest.

Aus were prepared In advance.

We are never winning WTC the way it is scheduled just after IPL and that too in England as a single test.

 

[mominsaigol]

Its only against Australia somehow they falter in the finals, they beat other teams in crunch matches easily. South Africa in T20 World Cup final recently, Sri Lanka in last year's Asia Cup final.

India have been able to beat Australia in pre-final matches even in Australia's strongest era in the mid 90's until 2007. It's somehow in finals, they lose the plot.

India beat Australia in 1998 ICC Knockout q/f
India beat Australia in 2000 ICC Knockout q/f
India beat Australia in 2007 T20 WC s/f
India beat Australia in 2008 CB Series finals
India beat Australia in 2016 T20 WC Super 8's(more or less q/f for both teams)

& recently defeated Australia in 2024 T20 WC Super 8's.

With Rishabh Pant(Australian nemesis) absent last year, Australia won the 2 finals.

I'm talking about since 2013 in icc tournaments, Asia Cup is not an icc event.

2014, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023

^^ They crashed out in spectacular fashion and eith the exception of West indies, every other time they lost via massive butchering.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Pakistan's struggles go beyond mental weakness. They lack professionalism in their approach. Unlike Indian players, who engage in cricket throughout the year,domestically and internationally

Pakistan's system has failed to groom them professionally, alongside developing their skills.

 

[Vikram1989]

India has done really well, there is basically only one sport in Pakistan and India.

Now a days lots of sports are garnering interest.Due to social media, each and every one is promoting themselves heavily and making their own impression. In 10 years, definitely cricket stars will be on same level as Olympians.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Physically inferior as well

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan's core issue is not mental. You can't make chicken biryani without chicken.

 

[AMSS]

India are FAR from the mentally toughest team out there, I rate New Zealand highest on that scale. AUS are always talked up but they also have been among the most talented so that colors my perception.

India however are normally tougher than Pakistan, have always been. Pakistan are a momentum team who ride high when they get on a hot streak. But wilt spectacularly when they meet the slightest resistance. Which is exactly why the cornered tigers moniker is misplaced. They rarely fight back when the heat is on. 9 out of the 10 times, they bend over and surrender.

 

[NishanKonar]

India is not that strong mentally. Its just that Pakistanis are mentally chickens.

even in the 90s when Pakistan had the upper hand over India - they had this tendency to bottle big games like 1996 WC QF & the Super Six 1999 game

There is another game I remember from 1997. It was in Hyderabad ( Pakistan). Pakistan set India a very stiff target of 266 and looked all set to win. India needed 10 of the last over with tailender Rajesh Chauhan on strike. Guess what. Saqlain Mushtaq did a Nawaz - bowled a juicy full toss which Rajesh Chauhan whacked for a 6 and led India to win

6 months later Saqlain did the same thing. India was chasing 316 in Dhaka. That kidn of target was never chased before in ODI cricket till that point. India was 7 wickets down. Hrishikesh Kanitkar was on strike. Sqlain bolwed a nice flighted half volley - right in the zone. Kanitkar whacked it for 4 at it & won the match

Good that there was no social media in those days - else Saqlain wud have got trolled like NAwaz & Haris Rauf

 

[NishanKonar]

India are FAR from the mentally toughest team out there, I rate New Zealand highest on that scale. AUS are always talked up but they also have been among the most talented so that colors my perception.

India however are normally tougher than Pakistan, have always been. Pakistan are a momentum team who ride high when they get on a hot streak. But wilt spectacularly when they meet the slightest resistance. Which is exactly why the cornered tigers moniker is misplaced. They rarely fight back when the heat is on. 9 out of the 10 times, they bend over and surrender.

Yes nobody comes close to Australia in mental toughness. They play in beast mode in big games !

 

[NishanKonar]

India do well in hockey where they knocked aus out in olympics.

Also in wrestling, badminton etc.

No comparison with Australia in sports. They are in different league altogether

We are starting to do well in other sports

 

[Nikhil_cric]

India are FAR from the mentally toughest team out there, I rate New Zealand highest on that scale. AUS are always talked up but they also have been among the most talented so that colors my perception.

India however are normally tougher than Pakistan, have always been. Pakistan are a momentum team who ride high when they get on a hot streak. But wilt spectacularly when they meet the slightest resistance. Which is exactly why the cornered tigers moniker is misplaced. They rarely fight back when the heat is on. 9 out of the 10 times, they bend over and surrender.

NZ melt when they are under pressure though. If their bowlers are attacked upfront, they usually fall apart and they don't come back.

I think SL are very underrated in terms of mentally tough sides.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India has some very mentally strong players for sure.

 

[Devadwal]

Australia is mentally strong team .

If you just compared with Pakistan then india is more stronger .

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I think India are mentally stronger than Australian

There is no pressure on Australia. If they lose a match the public will forget in the next day the only one who will remember it is in Indian trolls online.

Indians on the other hand are under tremendous pressure.

If Steve Smith fails to score people will shrug their shoulders. If Kohli feels people blame his wife his kids where he lives and he will have to double down on security.

It is hard to operate in the social media age under the expectation of 1 billion entitled people who think they own a piece of you.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India's problem is always balance. Mental schmental all these things go out of the window if you have a balanced side iwth able leadership. India for the last 7 or 8 years built a side that relied on perfect games Basically India carried 4 tailenders. 1 semi all rounder who goes missing half the time. Another all rounder who gets injured midway through. So essentially 5 batsmen. 5 bowlers. If they fail in one department that's it. This one-dimensional nature of Indian side did not allow them to handle crisis situations. In 2024 world T20 for the first time had a line up that boasted a long batting line up with good mixture of left/right. They absolutely destroyed every team in 2023 world cup. But in T20 world cup their ride was not exactly smooth. Guess what. They won in 2024. Failed in 2023. ONly difference is depth ofcourse exclusion of KL Rahul.

KL Rahul is a unique speciment who is yet to be part of any major event. Never won under-19 world cup, not even reached u19 final, never won IPL, never been part of world T20 win, never been part of world cup win, never been part of CT win, never been part of WTC fin. Once they kicked him out they won

 

[Ahmed216]

Australia is mentally strong team .

If you just compared with Pakistan then india is more stronger .

Indian cricketers are mentally the strongest because they deal with expectations of over a billion cricket crazy people.

This is the reason why Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar is the greatest cricketer ever. For almost a decade he carried the team on his own shoulders.

 

[Human786]

India is a better team ... Period !

 

[Cricket Warrior]

TBH in every aspect India is way ahead than Pakistan but yeah that is true that one of the biggest weak point of Pakistan is they cant handle pressure at all that is the reason why they lost most of the games in crunch situation.

 

[Justcrazy]

The mental weakness of the Pakistan team is because of lack of skills.
When as a batter you have no skills you try to slog your way out of tough situations , that is exactly how Pakistan batters play.

As a fast bowler when you no skills you start bowling all kinds of line and lengths.

As spinner when you have limited skills you keep pushing the ball faster and faster instead of flighting.

 

[harshjoshi87]

I'm talking about since 2013 in icc tournaments, Asia Cup is not an icc event.

2014, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023

^^ They crashed out in spectacular fashion and eith the exception of West indies, every other time they lost via massive butchering.

Except for the 2017 final v Pakistan, India haven't had heavy losses. All were close contests with our chokers choking in key moments.

2017 CT final, a lot of people including Kohli wanted them coach Kumble out of the Indian team, decided to underperform. Kumble was sidelined after the final, which Kohli & his teammates wanted.

 

[harshjoshi87]

India is not that strong mentally. Its just that Pakistanis are mentally chickens.

even in the 90s when Pakistan had the upper hand over India - they had this tendency to bottle big games like 1996 WC QF & the Super Six 1999 game

There is another game I remember from 1997. It was in Hyderabad ( Pakistan). Pakistan set India a very stiff target of 266 and looked all set to win. India needed 10 of the last over with tailender Rajesh Chauhan on strike. Guess what. Saqlain Mushtaq did a Nawaz - bowled a juicy full toss which Rajesh Chauhan whacked for a 6 and led India to win

6 months later Saqlain did the same thing. India was chasing 316 in Dhaka. That kidn of target was never chased before in ODI cricket till that point. India was 7 wickets down. Hrishikesh Kanitkar was on strike. Sqlain bolwed a nice flighted half volley - right in the zone. Kanitkar whacked it for 4 at it & won the match

Good that there was no social media in those days - else Saqlain wud have got trolled like NAwaz & Haris Rauf

That was not at Hyderabad it was at National Stadium in Karachi.

India had travelled to Pakistan after beating them in Toronto 4-1.

 

[harshjoshi87]

No rishab
No jaiswal
No bumrah

Vs aus in 2023 wtc final.
That too in England post ipl
With no prep or rest.

Aus were prepared In advance.

Even Rahul & Iyer.

Ashwin wasn't played a huge mistake on part of Rohit & Dravid.

 

[harshjoshi87]

Australia and India have been the strongest teams for the last 15 years or so by far.
Aus edge out India in ICC finals while India has been spanking them in bilateral series. True closest rivalry in cricket left.

True story.

But we need to win one final against them to even out the finals jinx.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Australia are the strongest team mentally. South Africa are the weakest.

 

[nish_mate]

Not sure about mentally strongest but only India can wear 36 AO as a badge of honour, post Adelaide, we battered Roos at MCG, punch drunk them at SCG and finally feasted on them at the place they thought was their fortress and Gabbatoir saw a strange scene ..

Slaughter of the Roos

Not many teams can lay claim to that...

 

[kron]

Even Rahul & Iyer.

Ashwin wasn't played a huge mistake on part of Rohit & Dravid.

Tbh rahu not playing is good. He is useless choker.
Iyer sucks vs bounce. Should have been other 3 for sure though.

 

[mominsaigol]

India is a mentally shot team and nothing more then glorified Aussie bunnies in finals.

SA is weakest team mentally due to losing games from won positions.

In terms of mental strength it goes as follows

Note: This is about mental strength, not team strength, outplaying vs Choking are 2 separate things.

1) Australia (no other team can win from 6% like they did vs Afghanistan, nor could any team have beaten pakistan from the position that were in 2010 and 2021)

2) New Zealand (they never lose their cool when onsong, To beat them you have to outplay em which is what Australia, India and England usually do, the reason they made it far in 2019 despite being weak was due to mental resolve, hot extremely unlucky in 2019 and frankly it shpuld have been another SO or draw, But regardless they'll never lose games from already won positions)

3) England (Very mentally strong, again to beat them you have to outplay them, You can't beat them from won positions)

4) West Indies (Again people will disagree, but to beat them you need to outplay them, however De villers and a few other teams have mentally shot them down on occasion which is why their ranked low)

5) Sri Lanka (In the past they'd be ranked higher, however even so, unless your India, they don't really get scared or shot down, You need to outplay them to win, they don't really choke)

6) Afghanistan (Only India Mentally shoots them, otherwise they also fight with a never back down mentality, However their ranked here cause they brainfade alot, Maxwell was good but they virtually were bowling garbage to him)

7) India (They brainfade beyond belief in finals, they were lucky to face the one team that chokes even more, kings of choking ong, Rahul played rubbish in the final, Ashwin no balls galore didn't help against wi in 2016, Pakistan was a horror show in 2017, Dhoni and yuvi were hilarious in 2019 and 2014 etc etc, the spinners nearly axed bumrah for 2024, never ending story)

8) Pakistan (Onoy team that loses from winning positions but unlike India where it's only finals, Pakistan loses it 99% of the time)

9) South Africa (Allah Ho akbar)

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Tbh India is not the mentally strongest team, the fact is their bottling of CWC 2023 finals and last 10 years performances. Pakistan have just fallen from grace in last few years since the arrival of Dosti Yaari culture.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Using just ICC final to decide which team chokes the most is ridiculous. What about Test series where even after losing all the major players they came back from 0-1 to win 2-1. Ashwin and Vihari batted 43 overs at the SCG against world clas bowling attack to earn a draw. Then India chased 329 at the Gabba breached the fortress. Where did the mental strength of Australia go then? That was the decider. Don't tell only ICC tournament matters in Tests. In Tests series win is 1000 times bigger than this made up one-off Test final. India has shown enough resilience at various stages. Only problem in LOI was poor team combination. Nothing else.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

India is a mentally shot team and nothing more then glorified Aussie bunnies in finals.

SA is weakest team mentally due to losing games from won positions.

In terms of mental strength it goes as follows

Note: This is about mental strength, not team strength, outplaying vs Choking are 2 separate things.

1) Australia (no other team can win from 6% like they did vs Afghanistan, nor could any team have beaten pakistan from the position that were in 2010 and 2021)

2) New Zealand (they never lose their cool when onsong, To beat them you have to outplay em which is what Australia, India and England usually do, the reason they made it far in 2019 despite being weak was due to mental resolve, hot extremely unlucky in 2019 and frankly it shpuld have been another SO or draw, But regardless they'll never lose games from already won positions)

3) England (Very mentally strong, again to beat them you have to outplay them, You can't beat them from won positions)

4) West Indies (Again people will disagree, but to beat them you need to outplay them, however De villers and a few other teams have mentally shot them down on occasion which is why their ranked low)

5) Sri Lanka (In the past they'd be ranked higher, however even so, unless your India, they don't really get scared or shot down, You need to outplay them to win, they don't really choke)

6) Afghanistan (Only India Mentally shoots them, otherwise they also fight with a never back down mentality, However their ranked here cause they brainfade alot, Maxwell was good but they virtually were bowling garbage to him)

7) India (They brainfade beyond belief in finals, they were lucky to face the one team that chokes even more, kings of choking ong, Rahul played rubbish in the final, Ashwin no balls galore didn't help against wi in 2016, Pakistan was a horror show in 2017, Dhoni and yuvi were hilarious in 2019 and 2014 etc etc, the spinners nearly axed bumrah for 2024, never ending story)

8) Pakistan (Onoy team that loses from winning positions but unlike India where it's only finals, Pakistan loses it 99% of the time)

9) South Africa (Allah Ho akbar)

So the current Best team for almost a decade and having the 2nd best ICC Trophy cabinet is in the bottom tier of mental toughness. Interesting analysis, ChatGPT really needs to improve a lot.

 

[jnaveen1980]

So the current Best team for almost a decade and having the 2nd best ICC Trophy cabinet is in the bottom tier of mental toughness. Interesting analysis, ChatGPT really needs to improve a lot.

People who have fail to grasp cricketing nuance will see everything in black and white. On a given day some teams may be better. May be the conditions favored them a tad bit. May be a team lost a player in this case India lost Pandya at a vital period. India could have played Ashwin in place of Siraj. Whole combination would have been different. India winning from 2/3 against AUstralia in the 1st round means they also proved that quality.

 

[Mockingbird]

India is mentally strong against every other team except Australia in ICC event finals. With this newfound snatching victory from defeat’s jaw confidence (twice in this last WC & especially in the finals), they can get over their bogie and defeat Aussies once & for all in a WC final. That will make them truly mentally invincible.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India is mentally strong against every other team except Australia in ICC event finals. With this newfound snatching victory from defeat’s jaw confidence (twice in this last WC & especially in the finals), they can get over their bogie and defeat Aussies once & for all in a WC final. That will make them truly mentally invincible.

They still have to get the XI right. Cannot go with 9 one-dimensional cricketers. That is where INdia falters time and again.

 

[mominsaigol]

So the current Best team for almost a decade and having the 2nd best ICC Trophy cabinet is in the bottom tier of mental toughness. Interesting analysis, ChatGPT really needs to improve a lot.

India packs their team with big guns in terms of skill.

I'd like to see them win from a position where their skills are lacking such as Afghanistan or Australia does. They've never been able to, In fact they lose it in finals despite having no rhyme or reason to.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes, the whole world saw the mental strength on November 19.

 

[Ball Blazer]

India vs Pakistan in the last 54 days

India beat Pakistan by 7 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 6 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 5 wickets in 2025 Asia Cup final
India Women beat Pakistan Women by 88 runs in Women's World Cup 2025
India beat Pakistan by 2 runs (DLS) in Hong Kong Sixes clash

 

[Devadwal]

India vs Pakistan in the last 54 days

India beat Pakistan by 7 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 6 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 5 wickets in 2025 Asia Cup final
India Women beat Pakistan Women by 88 runs in Women's World Cup 2025
India beat Pakistan by 2 runs (DLS) in Hong Kong Sixes clash

@Rana @Ahmed216 @RyanRyan10 this is my team india.

 

[BreadPakoda]

India vs Pakistan in the last 54 days

India beat Pakistan by 7 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 6 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 5 wickets in 2025 Asia Cup final
India Women beat Pakistan Women by 88 runs in Women's World Cup 2025
India beat Pakistan by 2 runs (DLS) in Hong Kong Sixes clash

Why is Pakistan playing the likes of Afridi and Samad in HK sixes? HKS is meant for light fun, but Pakistan seems to be taking it way too seriously

 

[Sachin fan]

Stronger teams usually are mentally stronger too and the confidence of winning more and more carries into next matches.

It's simply about winning more, getting more confidence, which makes you mentally stronger in the next matches.

When Australia was the ATG team under waugh, even new players used to able to intidimate senior players from the opposition. And it's not like they never got in tough situations, it's that they had the confidence because they won so much in the past.

It's a cycle, you get a stronger team, you win more, you get more confidence, you win even in tough situations.

The opposite can also happen, you start losing more and then you lose confidence and you choke in tougher situations. This is why despite being strong team india chokes against Aussies because they carry the baggage of past defeats, which they don't with other teams.

 

[charlie007]

India vs Pakistan in the last 54 days

India beat Pakistan by 7 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 6 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 5 wickets in 2025 Asia Cup final
India Women beat Pakistan Women by 88 runs in Women's World Cup 2025
India beat Pakistan by 2 runs (DLS) in Hong Kong Sixes clash

Now Hong Kong Sixes also count??

 

[kron]

Stronger teams usually are mentally stronger too and the confidence of winning more and more carries into next matches.

It's simply about winning more, getting more confidence, which makes you mentally stronger in the next matches.

When Australia was the ATG team under waugh, even new players used to able to intidimate senior players from the opposition. And it's not like they never got in tough situations, it's that they had the confidence because they won so much in the past.

It's a cycle, you get a stronger team, you win more, you get more confidence, you win even in tough situations.

The opposite can also happen, you start losing more and then you lose confidence and you choke in tougher situations. This is why despite being strong team india chokes against Aussies because they carry the baggage of past defeats, which they don't with other teams.

Chokes only in odi
Not tests
And t20

One fluke Wtc final aside vs a weakened Indian side

 

[Local.Dada]

Pakistan has 4-5 world standard players who have a shot to make into other test or loi sides at least the ones outside top 3- Shaheen, Babar. Rizwan, Naseem and to a lesser extent Agha, Hassan Ali and Saim Ayub. Also if you look at the pattern, they seem to also come from a proper pathway junior level and in some cases domestics. If you see Pakistans famous wins and by that I don’t mean a one off fluke but consistent performances have more or less been due to these guys.

The rest are skillful cricketers like associate cricketers who can once in a while stand out and give a cameo or unexpected performance.

That’s where Pakistanis “unpredictably” comes from. Nothing to do with choking.

Get a better organization of your talent pool and I don’t see why Pak can’t be a top 4 team.

 

[JaDed]

Stronger teams usually are mentally stronger too and the confidence of winning more and more carries into next matches.

It's simply about winning more, getting more confidence, which makes you mentally stronger in the next matches.

When Australia was the ATG team under waugh, even new players used to able to intidimate senior players from the opposition. And it's not like they never got in tough situations, it's that they had the confidence because they won so much in the past.

It's a cycle, you get a stronger team, you win more, you get more confidence, you win even in tough situations.

The opposite can also happen, you start losing more and then you lose confidence and you choke in tougher situations. This is why despite being strong team india chokes against Aussies because they carry the baggage of past defeats, which they don't with other teams.

As per Shaheen Afridi if you win always you can’t see whats wrong.. so he clearly doesn’t agree with you..

 

[JaDed]

India vs Pakistan in the last 54 days

India beat Pakistan by 7 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 6 wickets
India beat Pakistan by 5 wickets in 2025 Asia Cup final
India Women beat Pakistan Women by 88 runs in Women's World Cup 2025
India beat Pakistan by 2 runs (DLS) in Hong Kong Sixes clash

Lol hong Kong what?

Also the gap between Indian women and Pak women is more and increasing exponentially, than the Men.. I recall Indian women losing only once to PCT in a rain affected game.

 

[Sachin fan]

Naseem

Is this the 35 averaging Naseem you are talking about?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No, they aren't until they beat Aussies in a final. Infact, this is a very lenient criteria or else trophy counts is difficult to match if tournaments actually start to happen outside India.

 

[JaDed]

No, they aren't until they beat Aussies in a final. Infact, this is a very lenient criteria or else trophy counts is difficult to match if tournaments actually start to happen outside India.

Both T20 Wc outside India.. ICC CT all 3 outside India..

We have just one ICC trophy in India back in 2011..

 

[Sachin fan]

No, they aren't until they beat Aussies in a final. Infact, this is a very lenient criteria or else trophy counts is difficult to match if tournaments actually start to happen outside India.

Also don't forget, it should be a full moon night and indian players need to play with one hand tucked inside their t shirt.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Both T20 Wc outside India.. ICC CT all 3 outside India..

We have just one ICC trophy in India back in 2011..

How many titles Aussies have won outside home?

 

[NishanKonar]

Naah. Australia is far ahead of any team on this count

Unless India beat Australia in a WC final - we cannot claim to mentally toughest

 

[JaDed]

How many titles Aussies have won outside home?

Aussies are better than us.. they are also the current world champion in ODI.

We need more time we are just getting our house in order, money is trickling into remote corners for cricket..

But overall Aussies are like Brazil of cricket with most trophies..

 

[NishanKonar]

Both T20 Wc outside India.. ICC CT all 3 outside India..

We have just one ICC trophy in India back in 2011..

Australia won all but 1 WC away from home

 

[JaDed]

Australia won all but 1 WC away from home

As I said above they are better.. my point was specifically to post India hasn’t won outside India..

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Aussies are better than us.. they are also the current world champion in ODI.

We need more time we are just getting our house in order, money is trickling into remote corners for cricket..

But overall Aussies are like Brazil of cricket with most trophies..

Tbh, Indian cricket has arisen with money, but not the same case with Aussies. It's their mentality that helps them win trophies with average squads too.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Both T20 Wc outside India.. ICC CT all 3 outside India..

We have just one ICC trophy in India back in 2011..

By the way PCT won all 3 trophies outside home too and in much tougher conditions than India.

 

[JaDed]

Tbh, Indian cricket has arisen with money, but not the same case with Aussies. It's their mentality that helps them win trophies with average squads too.

You are confusing WI with Aus, Aus is a rich nation with sports scholarships , i think currently even for clubs its 5k Aus $ stipend for students.. not to forget a country which is first world with lot of resources.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You are confusing WI with Aus, Aus is a rich nation with sports scholarships , i think currently even for clubs its 5k Aus $ stipend for students.. not to forget a country which is first world with lot of resources.

But no one can match BCCi purse, as majority of Indians boast here

 

[JaDed]

By the way PCT won all 3 trophies outside home too and in much tougher conditions than India.

Why were those conditions tougher? India won against WI in 1983 in Eng.

Heck India won T20 in WI way tougher, and then against PcT..

Except Aus-NZ we have won ICC trophies everywhere, even in Aus we won 1985 World championships first coloured kit

 

[JaDed]

But no one can match BCCi purse, as majority of Indians boast here

Yes but per capita , CA probably would be richer.. as i said we are getting there but need time.. scholarships sporting culture etc..

 

[jnaveen1980]

Tbh, Indian cricket has arisen with money, but not the same case with Aussies. It's their mentality that helps them win trophies with average squads too.

Not the mentality. It is the depth. There is a reason why scotland,netherlands , ireland kind of teams upset top teams once in a while because of their team caombination. Even average side with depth is often equipped to handle wide variety of unexpected scenarios. Australia makes sure they always have depth. India without Pandya went with 4 rank tailenders. It puts pressure on top order to preserve wicket. Also not going in with part timers will put pressure on bowlers who have off day. Australia makes sure they cover these things better. This was visible in IPL as well. CSK template and KKR template proved that. For CSK Dwanye bravo batted at 9. Think about the depth. Hence they won more trophies. Gambhir is striving to achieve the same. Mike Hesson is also trying to do the same for Pakistan. One additional quality Australia has is their fielding standard is better under pressure compared to other teams. This is eaxctly why South Africa failed to win world T20, 2024. They had Jansen batting at 7. That is woeful batting depth. You are always 2 or 3 wickets away eating into tail.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Why were those conditions tougher? India won against WI in 1983 in Eng.

Heck India won T20 in WI way tougher, and then against PcT..

Except Aus-NZ we have won ICC trophies everywhere, even in Aus we won 1985 World championships first coloured kit

The thing is 92 WC tournament was so tough to ace, where PCT outclassed the same NZ-Aus three times and defeated the then dominant Eng j final.

In 2017, they defeat defending champions against Odd. And the eerie similarity is that PCT weren't favorites in any of these tournaments and always came from behind to clinch the title. India have won multiple titles while starting as favorites and PCT none

 

[Azaad]

Also don't forget, it should be a full moon night and indian players need to play with one hand tucked inside their t shirt.

It's a pak forum, there would obviously be insurmountable, and always brand new requirements to consider the Indian cricket team and its cricketers great or the best in the world. India's literally been winning 90% of its games lately, especially in a volatile format such as t20 - that is just mind numbingly crazy! It is a great and a super clutch team - irrespective of whether these hilarious requirements put forward by posters on this forum are ever met or not

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Not the mentality. It is the depth. There is a reason why scotland,netherlands , ireland kind of teams upset top teams once in a while because of their team caombination. Even average side with depth is often equipped to handle wide variety of unexpected scenarios. Australia makes sure they always have depth. India without Pandya went with 4 rank tailenders. It puts pressure on top order to preserve wicket. Also not going in with part timers will put pressure on bowlers who have off day. Australia makes sure they cover these things better. This was visible in IPL as well. CSK template and KKR template proved that. For CSK Dwanye bravo batted at 9. Think about the depth. Hence they won more trophies. Gambhir is striving to achieve the same. Mike Hesson is also trying to do the same for Pakistan. One additional quality Australia has is their fielding standard is better under pressure compared to other teams. This is eaxctly why South Africa failed to win world T20, 2024. They had Jansen batting at 7. That is woeful batting depth. You are always 2 or 3 wickets away eating into tail.

And obviously mentality has to do with gun fielding in KOs

 

[jnaveen1980]

And obviously mentality has to do with gun fielding in KOs

No even in bilateral they are better than us. You think Pakistan is a gun fielding unit in bilateral? They suck there as well.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India won 1983 world cup due to depth. Won Benson and hedges trophy due to depth as well. They had a lot of mini all rounders. In 2024 world T20 for the first in 10 years INdia with 8 batsmen where Jaddu was batting at8. Not surprisingly they won. It frees up the mind of players.

 

[JaDed]

The thing is 92 WC tournament was so tough to ace, where PCT outclassed the same NZ-Aus three times and defeated the then dominant Eng j final.

In 2017, they defeat defending champions against Odd. And the eerie similarity is that PCT weren't favorites in any of these tournaments and always came from behind to clinch the title. India have won multiple titles while starting as favorites and PCT none

It’s tougher to win when you are favs, PCT benefited a lot on 1992 in rain..

2017 was great, but when PCT was expected to win they lost.. that was tougher because they were expected to win 99 and 87, heck even 96..

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No even in bilateral they are better than us. You think Pakistan is a gun fielding unit in bilateral? They suck there as well.

They have always been lame in fielding and best in business in engendering upsets in KOs. Ofcourse recent performances didn't reflect their legacy