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Is sexual harassment against women common in Pakistani workplaces?

Is sexual harassment against women common in Pakistani workplaces?


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In my recent experience with Pakistan media at the PSL, I was shocked to hear some rather crude remarks about women etc being made within earshot or sometimes next to women colleagues who simply smiled and got on with their work.

That got me wondering. Is this common in Pakistani workplaces? What will it take to change attitudes?

Who will explain to male colleagues about what is appropriate and what is not?

Remember sexual harassment is also defined by words so this is a serious issue.
 
Voted yes. Culture there is still very different to western world.
 
Voted yes. Culture there is still very different to western world.

As the OP has mentioned crude verbal remarks as a way of sexual harrassment (and rightly so) i would like to know if it is worse in Pakistan than in a western country.

I am guessing it is more or less the same everywhere which is unfortunate. Also, what may be offensive for somebody in this part of the world might not be offensive to women in other parts of the world. So that should be taken into consideration as well.
 
Extremely common. A majority of the working women I know have faced some form of harassment.
 
Most Pakistani and Indian men are perverts. It always fascinates me why that is though. Is it because of being sexually deprived? Lack of education/morals? Anyways I voted yes
 
It's a subcontinent problem and not just limited to Pakistan. Although it has gone down in India in recent years with more women joining the workforce esp in the organised sector and timely steps taken by Govt such as Vishakha guidelines etc.
 
It isn’t a subcontinent problem, it is a “men” problem. It happen every where in every part of the world, recent example, Hollywood. Most of us DESI are “wrist slitter, and would only resort to blaming only culture. Culture determine the mode of harassment only.
 
It isn’t a subcontinent problem, it is a “men” problem. It happen every where in every part of the world, recent example, Hollywood. Most of us DESI are “wrist slitter, and would only resort to blaming only culture. Culture determine the mode of harassment only.

I believe the same. I think such things become more visible to people who visit their own 3rd world countries after a while. Firstly after seeing the 1st world countries and how advanced they are, we begin to think our own countries are simply pathetic in most ways. Mind you, this can even become a subconcious thing even if we dont realize it. We then begin to notice every small and big flaw of our our 3rd world country in an exaggerated sense as a part of the overall inferior package. The same flaws we wont notice in the same manner in a 1st world country.
 
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It isn’t a subcontinent problem, it is a “men” problem. It happen every where in every part of the world, recent example, Hollywood. Most of us DESI are “wrist slitter, and would only resort to blaming only culture. Culture determine the mode of harassment only.

I agree it’s more of a men problem. But I get why people say it’s a subcontinent problem, because Asia hasn’t made as much social progress as the west which makes it look like our own people are wrong.

If you go back 50 or so years in the west I’m sure men there where just like men in the subcontinent.
 
I agree it’s more of a men problem. But I get why people say it’s a subcontinent problem, because Asia hasn’t made as much social progress as the west which makes it look like our own people are wrong.

If you go back 50 or so years in the west I’m sure men there where just like men in the subcontinent.

In west, men are still like subcontinent, nothing has changed, only the approach has. Domestic violence happen everyday in western world but they aren't highlighted as much as they do in sub-continent, particularly by ex-pat.

The only difference is that in western world, physical abuse on the street isn't tolerated by random person, and authorities provide protection when complained.
 
In Pakistan they don't even know there's a concept of sexual harrassment, or at least not one that's codified. Women in the work place is relatively recent phenomenon there, it will probably be at least another generation before they catch up if they ever do. Sexual harrassment is probably best avoided by segregation in the minds of the majority population.
 
Sexual harassment - is big in every country - what is never talked about that amount of middle class men who endulge and get caught.

The class status
 
In Pakistan they don't even know there's a concept of sexual harrassment, or at least not one that's codified. Women in the work place is relatively recent phenomenon there, it will probably be at least another generation before they catch up if they ever do. Sexual harrassment is probably best avoided by segregation in the minds of the majority population.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The general men population there (not saying all men) needs to first learn "what" sexual harassment is.
 
In west, men are still like subcontinent, nothing has changed, only the approach has. Domestic violence happen everyday in western world but they aren't highlighted as much as they do in sub-continent, particularly by ex-pat.

The only difference is that in western world, physical abuse on the street isn't tolerated by random person, and authorities provide protection when complained.

I’m not saying the west doesn’t have this issue. It clearly does but the situation has gotten much better over the years.

And I think domestic violence is highlighted a lot in the west. People discuss it quite openly on tv and other places.
 
It is a huge problem in every country. And the #metoo movement highlights that.
 
Not sure, but sexual harassment at work by men against women is certainly very common in the UK. I am also aware of a few men who have been sexually harassed by other men, and even one man who was sexually harassed by a woman (he did not complain - she got a final written disciplinary warning, but only because there was a witness).

People don’t complain about it because they don’t want to “make a fuss”; or they are worried about being kept on the sidelines, passed over for development opportunities, promotions and such; they do not want their careers inside the four walls of work to be defined by that time when they were sexually harassed.

This is not Pakistan, this is not Britain. This is universal.
 
Yeah its universal like [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] said.

I think its pretty commmon in Pakistan, at least thats what my female relatives there have told me. My mom used to work for this state owned airline there, not gonna name it but she said that harassment was common there in the 90s. I think they need stricter laws and more awareness in Pakistan, they also need to educate men too.
 
Yeah its universal like [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] said.

I think its pretty commmon in Pakistan, at least thats what my female relatives there have told me. My mom used to work for this state owned airline there, not gonna name it but she said that harassment was common there in the 90s. I think they need stricter laws and more awareness in Pakistan, they also need to educate men too.

Considering that there is a grand total of one such airline, that does make the job of narrowing it rather difficult.
 
I don't think most Pak ladies would know what sexual harassment is. If we judge it by western standards that seems right then it would be very common.
 
Guys suffer sexual harassment at the hands of women too. I have seen cases when guys have been badly bullied by female bosses and supervisors. Unfortunately the attitude in these situations is "He is a guy, he should be able to take it and handle it"
 
I don't think most Pak ladies would know what sexual harassment is. If we judge it by western standards that seems right then it would be very common.

So someone needs to educate them
 
Why Pakistan's female doctors don't feel safe

Women working in hospitals in Pakistan say they regularly face sexual harassment, violence and verbal abuse, from male colleagues, patients and their families.

Following the rape and murder of a 31-year-old trainee doctor at work in an Indian hospital, more than a dozen female medics in Pakistan told the BBC they were worried about their own safety.

But this is a largely hidden crisis, as many are too scared to come forward to report the crimes – while those who do are often told no one would believe their allegations.

Most of the women the BBC spoke to asked that their names be withheld for fear of losing their jobs, “honour and respect”.

A few months ago, a young doctor came to Dr Nusrat (not her real name) in tears. While she was using the toilet, a male doctor had filmed the woman through a hole in the wall and was using the video to blackmail her.

“I suggested filing a complaint with the FIA [Federal Investigation Agency, which handles cyber crimes], but she refused. She said she didn’t want it to be leaked and reach her family or in-laws,” Dr Nusrat explained, adding that she knows of at least three other cases where female doctors have been secretly filmed.

Dr Nusrat happened to know someone senior in the police who spoke to the blackmailer, warning him he could be arrested for what he had done. The police officer made sure the video was deleted.

“Unfortunately, we couldn’t take further action, but we got the hole covered so that no-one could do it again,” says Dr Nusrat.

Other women shared experiences of being sexually harassed, including Dr Aamna (not her real name), who was a resident medical officer in a government hospital five years ago when she was targeted by her senior doctor, a powerful man.

“When he saw me with a file in my hand, he would try to lean over it, make inappropriate comments, and try to touch me,” she says.

She filed a complaint with the hospital administration, but says she was met with indifference. “I was told I had only been there for a short time, and asked what proof I had of this harassment. They said, 'We've been unable to fix this person in seven years - nothing will change, and no-one will believe you'.”

Dr Aamna says she knows of other women who have managed to record videos of harassment, “but nothing happens - the harasser is merely transferred to another ward for a few months, then comes back”.

She had to complete her placement to qualify as a doctor, but moved as soon as it was over.

Testimony gathered by the BBC suggests her story is disturbingly common.

 
Why Pakistan's female doctors don't feel safe

Women working in hospitals in Pakistan say they regularly face sexual harassment, violence and verbal abuse, from male colleagues, patients and their families.

Following the rape and murder of a 31-year-old trainee doctor at work in an Indian hospital, more than a dozen female medics in Pakistan told the BBC they were worried about their own safety.

But this is a largely hidden crisis, as many are too scared to come forward to report the crimes – while those who do are often told no one would believe their allegations.

Most of the women the BBC spoke to asked that their names be withheld for fear of losing their jobs, “honour and respect”.

A few months ago, a young doctor came to Dr Nusrat (not her real name) in tears. While she was using the toilet, a male doctor had filmed the woman through a hole in the wall and was using the video to blackmail her.

“I suggested filing a complaint with the FIA [Federal Investigation Agency, which handles cyber crimes], but she refused. She said she didn’t want it to be leaked and reach her family or in-laws,” Dr Nusrat explained, adding that she knows of at least three other cases where female doctors have been secretly filmed.

Dr Nusrat happened to know someone senior in the police who spoke to the blackmailer, warning him he could be arrested for what he had done. The police officer made sure the video was deleted.

“Unfortunately, we couldn’t take further action, but we got the hole covered so that no-one could do it again,” says Dr Nusrat.

Other women shared experiences of being sexually harassed, including Dr Aamna (not her real name), who was a resident medical officer in a government hospital five years ago when she was targeted by her senior doctor, a powerful man.

“When he saw me with a file in my hand, he would try to lean over it, make inappropriate comments, and try to touch me,” she says.

She filed a complaint with the hospital administration, but says she was met with indifference. “I was told I had only been there for a short time, and asked what proof I had of this harassment. They said, 'We've been unable to fix this person in seven years - nothing will change, and no-one will believe you'.”

Dr Aamna says she knows of other women who have managed to record videos of harassment, “but nothing happens - the harasser is merely transferred to another ward for a few months, then comes back”.

She had to complete her placement to qualify as a doctor, but moved as soon as it was over.

Testimony gathered by the BBC suggests her story is disturbingly common.

The attitude towards sexual abuse needs to change across society.

unfortunately abused women feel almost a double shame, shame at being abused and then shame when they tell their families.

In Pakistan many people will try to blame the woman and find faults in his "character" or dress as a reason for the abuse.
 
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