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Is Shan Masood's selection in the Test squad justified?

Is Shan Masood's selection in the Test squad justified?

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Amongst all selections, his name does stand out as strange but was there another choice?
 
Terrible decision to select him to be honest. He is technically poor as an opener and wouldn't make club sides let alone the national team. We do have other choices - Sami Aslam and Azhar! If you need a third opener in the squad then even Ahmed Shehzad is a far superior choice. It's even worth going with a gamble with Fakhur rather than picking no hope Shan.
 
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Usman said:
Terrible decision to select him to be honest. He is technically poor as an opener and wouldn't make club sides let alone the national team. We do have other choices - Sami Aslam and Azhar! If you need a third opener in the squad then even Ahmed Shehzad is a far superior choice. It's even worth going with a gamble with Fakhur rather than picking no hope Shan.
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A test average of 23 and a FC average of 34 how many other countries would pick him in their squad?
 
In no way do Shan's stats or his performances justify his selection.I agree with [MENTION=758]Usman[/MENTION] that even Shehzad would be a superior choice.
 
wonder if opinions will change if he was to score a hundred in the 1st Test?
 
There is no cricketing reason to justify his selection

He may scrape a few scores against arguably the weakest Sri Lankan team of all time but regardless Shan's selection epitomises one of the worst things about pak cricket
 
Shan Masood and Arsal Sheikh - future of Pakistan cricket

This is sarcasm btw.
 
waleed88 said:
He's still in the side for a 175 he scored 2 years ago against the same opposition
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175 was scored by MYK not Shan... Shan scored his maiden hundred and the only hundred in 20 inns so far...But that was gutsy knock indeed with a match winning partnership
 
ask_analyse_act said:
175 was scored by MYK not Shan... Shan scored his maiden hundred and the only hundred in 20 inns so far...But that was gutsy knock indeed with a match winning partnership
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Yes I'm sorry, don't remember Shan's score. It was a gutsy knock but again it happened 2 years ago, how long will he survive on it?
 
The only justification for his selection is his temperament and application. He really has nothing else. His technique isn't anything great and his stats are terrible. I'd rather have Ahmad shahzad over him.
 
Mr. Masood ( Shaan's father ) has been "playing" very well on selectors mind, hence his selection is on merit.
 
Shehzad is a far superior Test opener to Masood...
 
Just because he isn't a Pakpassion darling does not mean that he isn't entitled to a fair chance. Like Inzi said, he was given a single game against the Windies and deserves a couple more innings to show what he has.

I personally think he's a poor batsman but everyone deserves a fair shot.
 
Bilal7 said:
Just because he isn't a Pakpassion darling does not mean that he isn't entitled to a fair chance. Like Inzi said, he was given a single game against the Windies and deserves a couple more innings to show what he has.

I personally think he's a poor batsman but everyone deserves a fair shot.
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think he got plenty of chances prior to that, he was recalled because he probably ran marathorn or bench pressed more than the Rock or won the nobel prize of literature
 
Bilal7 said:
Just because he isn't a Pakpassion darling does not mean that he isn't entitled to a fair chance. Like Inzi said, he was given a single game against the Windies and deserves a couple more innings to show what he has.

I personally think he's a poor batsman but everyone deserves a fair shot.
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On merit he should be nowhere near the team how many batsmen from other countries are selected with a first class average of under 35?
 
moghul said:
Mr. Masood ( Shaan's father ) has been "playing" very well on selectors mind, hence his selection is on merit.
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shan's father works for or have worked in PCB which tells the story of him getting more chances. He will be out of the team in no time with his poor technique.
 
FreakCricket said:
shan's father works for or have worked in PCB which tells the story of him getting more chances. He will be out of the team in no time with his poor technique.
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We have said this multiple times that he will be out of the team in no time, yet he returns again not because of his performances but due to his connections.
 
He works hard in fitness but cricket doesn't seem to be his piece of cake. However now that he's been selected I will support him and hope he performs. If not, hopefully he will never be selected again. At the end of the day he's still only played a handful of test matches.
 
Everything apart from his batting is likeable about him. He has been given enough chances and he hasn't proven himself. Hope he proves me wrong but don't see it.
 
Hasan123 said:
Everything apart from his batting is likeable about him. He has been given enough chances and he hasn't proven himself. Hope he proves me wrong but don't see it.
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I dont mind nepotism as long it reaps a positive result. Masood's case is unfortunately not one of those.
 
htariq25 said:
He works hard in fitness but cricket doesn't seem to be his piece of cake. However now that he's been selected I will support him and hope he performs. If not, hopefully he will never be selected again. At the end of the day he's still only played a handful of test matches.
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What's the point of fitness when your front foot is as stiff as plywood?
 
Still prefer him over Shehzad. Unless Micky sorts out Shehzad's attitude, i'd keep him out of the side.
I think this selection isn't justified. But it is still good to see someone given an extended run. If he fails in this series then he should be dropped.
He has played 10 Tests, and batted in 20 innings. That is a good enough run in the side for any player. This should be his last chance saloon.
 
What more could Shan Masood have done?

After his home and away failures v Anderson and Broad he was told to win back his place in the team through sheer weight of runs.

And he has.

Shan Masood has roared back with 1 century in 18 innings, and an awe-inspiring average of 31 in First Class cricket.

He has made a quarter of as many centuries in First Class cricket since the England tour as Salman Butt. Of course he should be next in line.
 
Good selection. If he fails in this series he should be dropped for good. He has been working hard on his fitness...lets see if it improves his shortcomings as a batsman.
 
Thing is he's already been given 10 tests without merit - he's more than had his fun. So why can't the selectors resist being leant on by his father already?
 
MenInG said:
wonder if opinions will change if he was to score a hundred in the 1st Test?
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Not really, hes been exposed already in conditions away from home and also in UAE as being technically inept, A hundred against a Weak SL side wont prove anything.

Everyone knows his selection is not based on cricket merit!
 
Jimmy Anderson will be only person wanting shan masood back in pakistan side, he will be licking his lips are 4 free bonus wickets when pakistan tour england next summer.
 
Can Shan Masood hold his place in Tests for Pakistan?

Whislt other test nations of cooks, elgars, warners, vijays, we are stuck with an opener who plays at a 30 strike rate.

How can one expect to win matches when youre playing for a draw. No wonder tests are dying out! :yk2

Discss
 
Our whole top order bats the same way Shan does. No need to single him out. He played well today. Both Shan and Sami got out to soft dismissals and should have carried on.
 
Don't see him being dropped for 2nd Test. SO he gets another chance to prove himself
 
MenInG said:
Don't see him being dropped for 2nd Test. SO he gets another chance to prove himself
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Better turn up in this match especially in the first innings tomorrow. Otherwise should be dropped.
 
Another one of those spectacular selections from Inzi the revolutionary
 
While the frustrations are understandable, it is also pertinent to think of it from Mickey's perspective.

He is hard working, dedicated, polite, eager to improve and possesses good communication skills. These are the traits that a coach values. Yes he seems to lack the natural ability that is necessary to excel at the top level, but coaches generally do not put much emphasis on the talent factor, since that is something beyond their realm.

A coach would back himself to help Masood take his game to the next level. He is the type of person every coach would love to take under his wings.
 
We'll be back to square one come next June when he's caught nicking off twice in a row to Jimmy in the 1st Test and then Azhar will be shifted back up to open again. Maybe then Mickey will learn.
 
^Exactly, he'll be okay in the UAE, but there is no way he will last against Broad, Anderson, Rabada or Morkel in England or SA who we'll be facing next year.
 
And exactly which openers other than Shan Masood do we have who will take the likes of Anderson, Rabada to the cleaners in England or South Africa?

Some people hate on Shan as if he is blocking the way for a Saeed Anwar in the making.

Our choices are limited. I agree with Mamoom, at this point it seems like our choice is either Salman Butt or Shan Masood...and I will pick Shan over Butt any day of the week.

Having said that, no amount of hard work and dedication can overcome lack of performance. Shan has put in the hard yards, worked hard in the gym, his technique seems to have tightned up a little bit as well, now it's time for him to let the bat do the talking.
 
Yaasir said:
And exactly which openers other than Shan Masood do we have who will take the likes of Anderson, Rabada to the cleaners in England or South Africa?

Some people hate on Shan as if he is blocking the way for a Saeed Anwar in the making.

Our choices are limited. I agree with Mamoom, at this point it seems like our choice is either Salman Butt or Shan Masood...and I will pick Shan over Butt any day of the week.

Having said that, no amount of hard work and dedication can overcome lack of performance. Shan has put in the hard yards, worked hard in the gym, his technique seems to have tightned up a little bit as well, now it's time for him to let the bat do the talking.
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Azhar Ali + Sami Aslam, Imam ul Haq, Fakhar Zaman...all doing very well in FC cricket as openers. Azhar and Aslam did an excellent job in England last time over. Shan was awful as we know, fiddling around off. Just as he fiddled around off in the beginning of this Test.

It's pretty clear you don't put much stock in your own argument. "Seems to have tightened up a little bit." is about the saddest endorsement one could give to someone so completely at sea. And he's 27. He's not going to evolve into anything other than a Daddy's Dream. Aslam is 21.

We actually have one excellent opener and one reasonably promising one who has shown he can get the job done when the ball is moving around, in England and NZ. It is ridiculous to abandon that combination to protect Azhar. I personally wonder if it does not have something to do with pressure to find a place for Masood.
 
Mamoon said:
Which is probably true, but Mickey isn't responsible for that. He has to work with what he is given and it is easy to see why he rates Masood highly. Anyhow, it is either Masood or Salman Butt. Folks should be careful what they wish for.
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It's clearly not. Aslam and Azhar did a good job England last time over. If not Aslam, Imam, if not Imam whoever tops the FC charts as an opener this season. This is not rocket science
 
average of 34 in FC cricket and average of 24 in tests , he would have never made the test team if wasnt for his dad and thats the truth.
 
I am not buying this good guy thing anymore. If he is that good, just retire for the sake of Pakistan team. He is not international level.
 
Classy dismissal

Looked really fit as he got out, even think I heard some good English as he walked off
 
Im baffled to his selection and how mickey can justify it

Azhars had immense success over the last 18 months as opener And after many years we seemed to have found a genuine world class opener in a position which has been a problem seemingly for ever

Now Why would you move him down and select someone like masood who has neither the stats fc wise or the technique and replace him?
 
Khuda ka waasta hai retire ho ja bhai. Tang kar rakkha hai. Nepotism should have its limitations. Talented players used to come through before, even through nepotism. This is just zyadti on a different level.
 
Zaz said:
Im baffled to his selection and how mickey can justify it

Azhars had immense success over the last 18 months as opener And after many years we seemed to have found a genuine world class opener in a position which has been a problem seemingly for ever

Now Why would you move him down and select someone like masood who has neither the stats fc wise or the technique and replace him?
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Micky is a joke in test cricket
 
Probably the worst player to have played for Pakistan for over 10 tests; even worse than Faisal Iqbal.
 
Has the worst average of openers in last 5 years, around 23. How on earth can you select such a guy???? Looking fit is not everything, you should also be able to hold a bat!
 
IAJ said:
Has the worst average of openers in last 5 years, around 23. How on earth can you select such a guy???? Looking fit is not everything, you should also be able to hold a bat!
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Yeah but has he gotten enough of a chance to prove himself :inzi :ma
 
New Yorker said:
It's clearly not. Aslam and Azhar did a good job England last time over. If not Aslam, Imam, if not Imam whoever tops the FC charts as an opener this season. This is not rocket science
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That is what you or me think, but that does not really matter. What matters is that the selectors have given enough indication that Salman Butt is on the brink of selection.
 
What's appalling about Masood is that he can't even score runs in the UAE (that's a blessing). Most batsmen like him just score massive runs in places like UAE against weaker opponents like Sri Lanka, then start failing when taken overseas. :hafeez

He's so bad that can't score runs anywhere.
 
Not sure if he will be dropped as he scored a fifty in the previous match and they can use the: "Only one bad game" excuse.
 
There's no justification for him playing international cricket.

Azhar, Sami, Shehzad, Butt, Imam, Hafeez, and Fakhar are all better openers.
 
Singlehandedly accounted for 2 reviews
 
10 runs of 61 balls. An extremely low strike rate should be a clue for a Chief Selector if he were perceptive enough.
 
No need to worry about strike rate when we still have four and a half sessions left. Shan will still be out there tomorrow evening having led us to victory with a marathon 23* to prove the doubters wrong.
 
Can there ever be justification for this kind of innings? Its shameful for us, him and papa
 
Big Mac said:
No need to worry about strike rate when we still have four and a half sessions left. Shan will still be out there tomorrow evening having led us to victory with a marathon 23* to prove the doubters wrong.
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I won't lie , you first sentence got me so angry that I was preparing a full broadside reminiscent of my Younis in odis rants, before noticing the rest of your sarcasm :)))
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
I won't lie , you first sentence got me so angry that I was preparing a full broadside reminiscent of my Younis in odis rants, before noticing the rest of your sarcasm :)))
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I do kinda feel bad for Shan, he's not in good form and he's really digging in and showing a lot of guts in trying to fight his way into some form.

Of course, this being Pakistan it means that the guy who batted ages will get cussed out more than the other batsmen who were dismissed quickly :))
 
If this isn't his last test match for Pakistan, then I don't know when sense will prevail.
 
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