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Is SuryaKumar Yadav the most overrated/overhyped player ever?

SKY is head and shoulders have every South Asian batsman in T20s. He knows how the format works. He has it all worked out. SKY doesn't care about nonsense like anchors stabilizing to help him hit sixes. Everybody appear to be anchors around him because they don't play aggressively and don't have the intent to bat like SKY.

Every South Asian batsman should learn the art of T20 batting fro SKY. Don't ever waste balls, if you're talented you will hit the bad ones for boundaries every time. There is no need to settle down. There is no. we'd to go deep.

The best T20 batsman unironically plays for the team, not himself. Forget about Individual score and get the team to over 200 in 20 overs

Muhammad Harris has that attitude

He will be Pakistan’s best T20i player very soon
 
Couldn't watch it live but m sure that was an outstanding innings. Every1 else struggled except him. He's proving the doubters including me wrong. He would love to repeat such performances more often in major tournaments when stakes are higher against good teams. It seems he's capable
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Numero Uno showing why he's the best in the world. Didn't watch it live but I'm sure this was another video game innings by him. &#55357;&#56834; <a href="https://twitter.com/surya_14kumar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@surya_14kumar</a></p>— Virat Kohli (@imVkohli) <a href="https://twitter.com/imVkohli/status/1594255637063827456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Most Player Of The Match Awards in T20is in a calendar year:

Suryakumar Yadav - 7* (2022) (30).
Sikandar Raza - 7 (2022) (23).
Virat Kohli - 6 (2016) (13).
 
If he continues like this for another 20-25 innings, and there is no reason why he won’t, he will go down as the GOAT T20 batsman.

He is making a mockery of this format - he is setting standards no one else has dreamt of.
 
Biggest impact player in T20 today.

He is 32 years old, has the BCCI been sleeping the last 10 years?
 
Gayle
Kohli
De Villiers

The top 3 T20 batsmen in history. SKY is catching up rapidly.
 
I think India would be unbeatable in ODIs if he can bat like this. They are already an incredible team in the format but haven’t been able to replace the likes of Yuvraj, Dhoni and Raina in the middle-order. SKY can plug the gap.
 
Formidable player

We’re have they kept this bloke @32 was he hiding under a rock or did BCCI fall asleep

Arguably the best in the world at the moment

Loved to see him open he will destroy teams in the power play
 
Best in the world at the moment.

However with the standards he's set, his downfall could be as rapid as his rise.
 
Biggest impact player in T20 today.

He is 32 years old, has the BCCI been sleeping the last 10 years?

If he'd debuted 10 years back, he might've failed and faded into oblivion because a few failures at that age and you start to think whether you are capable enough at the international level or not. At 32, he's at the peak of his game due to him having played multiple seasons of FC, List A and IPL. He's debuted at the right time for India.
 
Kane Williamson (at the post match presentation): "This is the best T20 innings I've ever seen."
 
The kid is special. I watched today's knock and was blown away.

It's also harsh to judge him on not performing on the biggest stage he's only been in the side a year. Let's cut him slack and see how he performs in the next world Cup and world T20. I think he will become great.
 
This guy bats on a different pitch to everyone else? It's crazy how often he scores at a SR of 200 when other batsmen are barely going run a ball. All this with this consistency is scary, truly at peak of his trade.
 
Next World cup is 1.5 years away only. He will be only 33 then. If he remains in form will be good for India.
 
The Guy who is major,Colonel or constable whomever created this post because he can't bear Drama is unfolding in front of his eyes and His Disneyland comprise Babar and Rizwan best T20 Batter of world's are getting exposed ,So out of desperation he created a post like this, Even Haris , fakhar,Sharjeel is better than them in t20's
 
Imagine in an ODI game, he is coming to bat at 5 or 6. Opposition can barely rest thinking of the fact that he is yet to come.

3. Kohli
4. Pant
5. Pandya
6. Suryakumar
7. Jadeja

Backups - KLR, S Iyer
Reserves - Samson

I would definitely play Suryakumar if he can replicate the T20 performance in ODI format too ( especially in that 30-50 over mark). :inti
 
Imagine in an ODI game, he is coming to bat at 5 or 6. Opposition can barely rest thinking of the fact that he is yet to come.

3. Kohli
4. Pant
5. Pandya
6. Suryakumar
7. Jadeja

Backups - KLR, S Iyer
Reserves - Samson

I would definitely play Suryakumar if he can replicate the T20 performance in ODI format too ( especially in that 30-50 over mark). :inti


Bcci Selected a panel long ago how to neutralize Impact of Surya, And that panel decide that whatever the Icc tournament we will put our two best test mould bats as opener and a fearsome bowler " Swingeswar Bimar" and other countries were agreed on this proposal ,Now we will see fearsome dhawan and rohit in their sweet 17's smoking bolwers in next 2023 wc Impacts knocks 60(80 balls) kind, And Swingeswar Bimar swinging it from mumbai To London
 
Pandya is so insecure of Shubhman the Best young talented batsman and Samson he won't let them settle in playing 11 ,Shubhan threat for his captaincy ,We have to see this ugly hack pant how much more time in t20 Liability in t20 after playing around 55 matches
 
Typically post world T20 matches get less attention or hype. SKY has definitely made everyone bring the attention right back. Incredible knock.
 
All right folks, I know SKY knock was in T20s. But there is a role in ODIs middle order also for a T20 specialists like Suryakumar.

Let's come to the actual question now:-

You have two spots to fill, no.4 and 5 assuming Kohli at 3 and Pandya at 6. Which two players would you like to go with? Contenders are

Rishabh Pant
KL Rahul
Suryakumar Yadav
Shreyas Iyer
Sanju Samson( on experts demand)

Remember, we are talking about ODI format so you need T20 skills but get more time to accelerate.
 
All right folks, I know SKY knock was in T20s. But there is a role in ODIs middle order also for a T20 specialists like Suryakumar.

Let's come to the actual question now:-

You have two spots to fill, no.4 and 5 assuming Kohli at 3 and Pandya at 6. Which two players would you like to go with? Contenders are

Rishabh Pant
KL Rahul
Suryakumar Yadav
Shreyas Iyer
Sanju Samson( on experts demand)

Remember, we are talking about ODI format so you need T20 skills but get more time to accelerate.

SKY can play floater role
 
What he is doing in international cricket is just incredible. Some people like to point out failed against this or that team or in crucial semi final etc.
But not batsman is perfect and SKY is batting at an unmatched level. Only Gayle, ABDV and Kevin Pietersen have batted at such a high level consistantly.

Amazing batting.
Maybe if he came in earlier in the semi final he could have scored more runs and India could have been less humiliated.
 
What he is doing in international cricket is just incredible. Some people like to point out failed against this or that team or in crucial semi final etc.
But not batsman is perfect and SKY is batting at an unmatched level. Only Gayle, ABDV and Kevin Pietersen have batted at such a high level consistantly.

Amazing batting.
Maybe if he came in earlier in the semi final he could have scored more runs and India could have been less humiliated.
If INdia batted second England would have been humiliated on that high way. India just did not know what to set and went after par score.
 
If he continues like this for another 20-25 innings, and there is no reason why he won’t, he will go down as the GOAT T20 batsman.

He is making a mockery of this format - he is setting standards no one else has dreamt of.

Head and shoulders above the rest. If he can seal it with WC or big stage performances he'll go down as an ATG, but until then his reputation worldwide hasn't really erupted as it should given how many great innings he's played. People unanimously agree he's incredibly good but I don't think he'll seal it unless he's able to shell out some great knockout or group stage knocks and/or in winning causes. Even Indians give him a lot of flak, and have today on SNS calling him "bilateral bully" in some numbers

It might just be that his dominance in bilaterals is so large relative to what he's shown thus far in T20 WCs & AC that they fade, but to be fair, his performances in the Asia Cup and against NZ, Pak (4 occassions) have been very underwhelming

Pak do keep him quiet with that hard length, bounce or width to it too. That's the only weakness some other laymen have noticed, watching a lot of IPL too it's a length he struggles with his aggressive all-or-bust playstyle. But don't think other teams have the bowling stocks that have such a matchup come naturally to them
 
Two things I really admire about this guy are:

His ability to build an innings
The fact that he isn't selfish and is a team player who isn't bothered about his average
 
He is 32 now, at his peak and the last thing you want from him is to get confused between formats and lose his confidence. He should stick to playing T20s. And if he does play in ODIs then Pandya should be dropped. :inti
 
Biggest impact player in T20 today.

He is 32 years old, has the BCCI been sleeping the last 10 years?

He has been performing for years but hasn't got the chance because once they pick somebody into the team, they're given a long rope and it becomes difficult for newer players to come in. Kedar Jadhav and Ambati Rayudu were given that long rope. Even Yuvraj Singh even though he was well past his prime.
 
According to Kane, it was one of the best innings he has ever seen. And apparently some of the shots he has never seen. Haha. Incredible innings again by Yadav. I remember him smashing the ball around in IPL a few years ago with good cricketing strokes. It's just pure yardwork and innovation from the guy to bea beast in T20s.

He has a good first class record and will be a great asset in 2023 World cup. Could change the games in a couple of overs.
 
It is still early days in his T20I career but I think he has done enough to be rated higher than KL Rahul in this format. An India best T20 XI must include his name in the team.

Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Yuvraj
Dhoni(c/wkt)
Raina
Pandya
 
According to Kane, it was one of the best innings he has ever seen. And apparently some of the shots he has never seen. Haha. Incredible innings again by Yadav. I remember him smashing the ball around in IPL a few years ago with good cricketing strokes. It's just pure yardwork and innovation from the guy to bea beast in T20s.

He has a good first class record and will be a great asset in 2023 World cup. Could change the games in a couple of overs.

I watched that 117 live lol This goes above that given the way he treated Ferguson
 
Lol yet another clueless post. Pandya is an all rounder while SKY is a specialist batsman. It is a joke to even consider them as one to one replacements. It seems after the World T20 loss, you have lost even the small bit of common sense that you had. :91: :inti

You come up with some weird logics here. Pandya is an all rounder and how often does he bowl in ODIs? World Cup is in India and here Jadeja will be the main allrounder. Funny that you are asking others to use common sense when you are the one who support mediocre players even after multiple failures. If Sky will be used as a finisher then only one out of Sky or Pandya should play. It's about the team balance which you will never understand. :inti
 
Yes, SKY will fill the sixth bowler role lol :facepalm

Just watch out for Jadeja, he will get injured right before World Cup and leave it for Pandya and Axar again to fill 10 overs. Pandya in the England ODI series this year produced a spell of 4/24. Seems folks have forgotten early or maybe they just deliberately act like that just for the sake of arguing. :91: :inti
 
What's makes sky different from Buttler,Hales,,Rohit Etc that when bowl starts to swing and seam they Don't look like half as comfortable as surya That's insane ,HIs perth inning was one of best ever in t20 knocks South african and indian batsman in that whole match were looking worse than Lower order batsman
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Suryakumar Yadav is box office....incredible batting!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NZvsIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NZvsIND</a></p>— Mickey Arthur (@Mickeyarthurcr1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mickeyarthurcr1/status/1594246088000692224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
What's makes sky different from Buttler,Hales,,Rohit Etc that when bowl starts to swing and seam they Don't look like half as comfortable as surya That's insane ,HIs perth inning was one of best ever in t20 knocks South african and indian batsman in that whole match were looking worse than Lower order batsman

Buttler/Hales are total bunnies in swinging conditions. His primary requirement is ball has to come in straight line.
 
Michael Vaughn on SKY:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow .. <a href="https://twitter.com/surya_14kumar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@surya_14kumar</a> !!! Not many better in the World at the moment … <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NZvsIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NZvsIND</a></p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1594247760852779009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
SKY is the best T20 batsman in the world right now and if he continues like this for atleast a couple more years will be known as one of the GOAT T20 batsmen.

The reason this thread started is because he's mainly failed against Pakistan and he hasn't given us the nightmares that Kohli has. But he is not overrated at all. I hope to see more of him in ODIs too and more particularly the WC 23. Because along with his expansive shots he seems very in control at the crease and seems very sound.

The one thing against him is that he has failed in pressure games. The sample size for that is very low however, and I hope he comes good sometime regarding that
 
SKY is the best T20 batsman in the world right now and if he continues like this for atleast a couple more years will be known as one of the GOAT T20 batsmen.

The reason this thread started is because he's mainly failed against Pakistan and he hasn't given us the nightmares that Kohli has. But he is not overrated at all. I hope to see more of him in ODIs too and more particularly the WC 23. Because along with his expansive shots he seems very in control at the crease and seems very sound.

The one thing against him is that he has failed in pressure games. The sample size for that is very low however, and I hope he comes good sometime regarding that

Pressure is a relative term. Unless you see him trembling in the crease like KL Rahul or Rohit you can't say pressure got the best of him. He knows only one way. He is going to play his shots regardless. It is more a coincidence than pressure. Ironically the match he failed was the flattest pitch against one of the most pie attack he probably faced in the world cup.
 
SKY is the best T20 batsman in the world right now and if he continues like this for atleast a couple more years will be known as one of the GOAT T20 batsmen.

The reason this thread started is because he's mainly failed against Pakistan and he hasn't given us the nightmares that Kohli has. But he is not overrated at all. I hope to see more of him in ODIs too and more particularly the WC 23. Because along with his expansive shots he seems very in control at the crease and seems very sound.

The one thing against him is that he has failed in pressure games. The sample size for that is very low however, and I hope he comes good sometime regarding that

Yes similar to Babar, he too needs to deliver especially in pressure situations.
 
Pressure is a relative term. Unless you see him trembling in the crease like KL Rahul or Rohit you can't say pressure got the best of him. He knows only one way. He is going to play his shots regardless. It is more a coincidence than pressure. Ironically the match he failed was the flattest pitch against one of the most pie attack he probably faced in the world cup.

All he had to do was get past the Rashid over. It was his last over. Should have played him out and smashed the others along with Pandya.
 
Yes similar to Babar, he too needs to deliver especially in pressure situations.

Nah. Babar can't play pressure knocks at all. SKY just needs more opportunity to deliver in pressure situations. I'm sure he'll come good. I think he has the ability to weather the storm before going full on attack.
 
All he had to do was get past the Rashid over. It was his last over. Should have played him out and smashed the others along with Pandya.

He likes to take on everyone. He always looks for opportunities. I would agree about others seeing someone off. Heck first international ball was from Archer. It went for six. He could very well have "seen him off". It is never going to be found in his dictionary. Until that delivery he had faced 4 balls from Haris Rauf scored 11 runs. Why would he want to see him off.
 
Two things I really admire about this guy are:

His ability to build an innings
The fact that he isn't selfish and is a team player who isn't bothered about his average

He is in that zone right now. Will be interesting to see how he recovers from a bad patch and that will really define his career.
 
His ability to improvise, to be one step ahead of the field placings and to change his shot at the last second is incredible
 
His ability to improvise, to be one step ahead of the field placings and to change his shot at the last second is incredible

Him and Kohli are next level when it comes to finding gaps.
 
It was a small ground. So scoring was easy.

But his 6 of Ferguson of the last ball of the 19th over was still an incredible shot.
 
It was a small ground. So scoring was easy.

But his 6 of Ferguson of the last ball of the 19th over was still an incredible shot.

Ground sizes don't matter much to this guy. If not for sixes they will go for fours. His scoring zones are deep fine leg, extra cover, mid wicket where he can pick the gaps with finesse. He can cut, drive and pull to any other part of the ground as well. He can hit a ball on the leg stump to extra cover for six and a ball outside off stump to mid wicket or even fine leg. He is brutal against pace and spin. Truly next level.
 
As per sky interview 1.5 years back, He used to score on leg side only.After Mumbai Indians asked him to play at 4/5, He started playing offside in the last 3 years only.I think playing offside at that age was difficult for him and he started to play in all directions to compensate his lack of offside play.He is reaping the benefits of being a student all the time
 
It is still early days in his T20I career but I think he has done enough to be rated higher than KL Rahul in this format. An India best T20 XI must include his name in the team.

Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Yuvraj
Dhoni(c/wkt)
Raina
Pandya

I will still put Rahul above Raina.
Rohit
Rahul
Kohli
Surya
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Hardik
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Bumrah
Chahal

2nd XI :-
Dhawan
Gambhir
Raina
Iyer
Pandey
Karthik
Jadeja
I Pathan
D Chahar
Kuldeep
Nehra
 
Terrible bowling by NZ.

The size of the ground was too small.

He disappears in big matches.

No Boult, so you know what I mean.

It was their B team, or C or may be D. So sorry, I just checked and it was their A team, but their A team has been playing like a C team as of late.

This is cricket so there is no way he can keep up with this kind of form. Haters will always have a last laugh if you know what I mean.

When a player as big as Sky scores, please apply one of the above and if for any reason you can't, just wait... ;)
 
I will still put Rahul above Raina.
Rohit
Rahul
Kohli
Surya
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Hardik
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Bumrah
Chahal

2nd XI :-
Dhawan
Gambhir
Raina
Iyer
Pandey
Karthik
Jadeja
I Pathan
D Chahar
Kuldeep
Nehra

2nd XI is a pretty rubbish team. And how you can pick Dhawan in T20s instead of Sehwag? Sehwag was a trailbrazer in T20 inspite of not able to score big runs.
 
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...ch-worse-says-awestruck-glenn-maxwell-1346078

Suryakumar 'makes everyone else look so much worse,' says awestruck Maxwell
"He's playing some of the most ridiculous shots I've ever seen and he's doing it stupidly consistently," the Australia batter says

Suryakumar Yadav has been wowing everyone - colleagues, experts, fans - with his incredible 360-degree hitting in T20 cricket. Glenn Maxwell is the latest to talk about being awestruck by Suryakumar's batting, saying, "No-one we've got is close to that; no-one anyone else has got is close to that".

Not averse to playing a few unorthodox shots himself, Maxwell said that the consistency with which Suryakumar has been able to hit some of his most audacious shots was "ridiculous", and much else.

"Suryakumar Yadav is doing it in such a bizarre, ungainly way where he's hitting the middle of the bat by just like stepping across, deciding to sweep somebody who's bowling 145 (kph) from off the wicket on the other side," Maxwell said on The Grade Cricketer Podcast. "And then just putting his head down walking down chewing some gum, glove tap, bat tap, sort of a bit of a swagger and off he goes again and does it again."

Suryakumar, the No. 1 batter in the ICC T20I player rankings, most recently hit 111 not out in 51 balls to give India a big win over New Zealand in Mount Maunganui. The extent of his domination, and the damage he caused, could be gauged from the numbers the rest of the India batting unit put up: 69 runs in 69 balls. Virat Kohli called it a "video game innings", while Suryakumar himself admitted to being amazed at some of the strokes he hit.

Calling the innings "extraordinary", Maxwell, who is recuperating after breaking his leg in a "freak accident", said that it sometimes got frustrating for him to watch Suryakumar bat as he was "so much better than everyone else".

"I saw the [Mount Maunganui T20I] scorecard from the first innings. I screenshot it and sent it straight to Finchy [Aaron Finch] and I said, 'What is going on here?' This bloke is batting on a different planet. I said, 'Look at everyone else's scores and look at this bloke that's 111 off 50! What is going on?'." Maxwell said. "So, the next day, I watched the full replay on [an app] and watched the whole innings. It is just extraordinary.

"He's playing some of the most ridiculous shots I've ever seen and he's doing it stupidly consistently. It's just actually a bit hard to watch because it just makes everyone else look so much worse for not being able to do that."

Suryakumar has been in exceptional form in T20Is in 2022. He is the highest run-getter with 1164 runs in 31 games this year, averaging 46.56 and striking at 187.43. He also had a terrific T20 World Cup, where he notched up 239 runs in six innings at a strike rate of 189.68, often giving India the impetus at the end.

And a lot of it has come from finding different angles on the field and doing it consistently.

"He plays the field so well and his wrists and hand speed is so quick that he is able to make a last minute adjustment, a last second adjustment to make sure that he can get the ball into a gap," Maxwell said. "The way he plays spin, the way he hits it over cover, he reverses really well, he sweeps strong, and he is still able to hit the ball strong down the ground. To have that ability to hit the ball around the ground but so powerfully all over the place. He's just so good."
 
Most 50+ Scores for India in a Year

Test - Virender Sehwag (13 in 2010)
ODI - Sachin Tendulkar (16 in 1998)
T20I - Suryakumar Yadav (11 in 2022)*
 
Yeah but can he do it on a cold night away at stoke?
 
And the guy fails in ODI cricket. World Cup 2023 is up ahead, wonder if he can actaully perform in winning games against good teams.
 
And the guy fails in ODI cricket. World Cup 2023 is up ahead, wonder if he can actaully perform in winning games against good teams.

He will get a run. But won't yield results unless they use him the right way. As a finisher. Not an innings builder. Just like Suresh Raina provided the support for Dhoni/Yuvraj.
 
100 of just 44 balls [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] are you watching ?
 
A player of his calibre must bat at 5 in ODIs for India which means Sanju Samson PR will leave their life hearing sad songs on Twitter all their life for their hero not making a place :viru :inti
 
There is no way a player of his talent should sit out from ODI World Cup 2023. Give him two home series to prove his point in ODIs ahead of the likes of KL, Samson etc.
 
Fastest T20I centuries for India (balls faced)

35 Rohit Sharma vs SL Indore 2017
45 Suryakumar Yadav vs SL Rajkot 2023 *
46 KL Rahul vs WI Lauderhill 2016
48 Suryakumar Yadav vs Eng Nottingham 2022
49 Suryakumar Yadav vs NZ Mt Maunganui 2022

* Suryakumar Yadav becomes the first player to hit three T20I centuries outside the opening slot
 
100 of just 44 balls [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] are you watching ?

Playing against mighty srilanka that has to play qualifiers to move to next round.

De villies must feel insulted being compared to this
 
Clearly No 1 in T20is no doubt but why has he only made a breakthrough at 32 lol. His prime will be over soon. Why wasn't he selected 5 or 6 years back for India ?
 
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