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Is the 2019 Cricket World Cup the worst World Cup ever?

Man the ICC is getting an absolute hammering on every social media platform. And what's funny is that they are having to reimburse the crowd aswell, making it an outstanding all-round farce :))

England is the worst place to schedule tournaments. They should have learnt from the CT17, where Australia got robbed of a semi-final slot due to rain.
 
After a very promising start the weather has almost completely ruined it. Even if 3 or 4 more matches are washed off the eventual results will lose much of their credibility.
 
That would be because of a few reasons.

1. Australia holds it in 2015.

2. Since 96, Australia has held 5 of the 6 World Cups.

3. Since 96, England have been terrible in all the World Cups played.

England were pretty terrible in tests too but I can remember all their series results.
 
Man the ICC is getting an absolute hammering on every social media platform. And what's funny is that they are having to reimburse the crowd aswell, making it an outstanding all-round farce :))

England is the worst place to schedule tournaments. They should have learnt from the CT17, where Australia got robbed of a semi-final slot due to rain.

Weather was lovely in 1983 WC here....
 
It's sad and funny that a game that attracts so much $$, is still prone to the elements. I wonder how much it would take for the major cricket playing nations to invest in at the least 2-3 cricket stadiums with decent roof coverings, to avoid games being washed out this way. May be the boards can do a little number crunchings to see how much they lose in refunds to audience and sponsorship losses when games are washed out.
 
It's sad and funny that a game that attracts so much $$, is still prone to the elements. I wonder how much it would take for the major cricket playing nations to invest in at the least 2-3 cricket stadiums with decent roof coverings, to avoid games being washed out this way. May be the boards can do a little number crunchings to see how much they lose in refunds to audience and sponsorship losses when games are washed out.
They are too tight to ever do this!
You have tennis arenas with roofs - wimbledon.
You have football grounds with roofs - cardiff.
But ecb will just use the excuse that you cant help what the weather is like!
 
And for people who are coming up with ** like, "UK has no monsoons, & no one can predict the weather in the Isles", can take this argument elsewhere. If the weather at a certain place is so unpredictable, then is it some rocket science to schedule Cricket's biggest LOI tourney to somewhere where there are lesser chances of Rain at this time of year?
 
Weather was lovely in 1983 WC here....
In a seriousness, the weather is expected to wash out more than five games this WC. That has to be alarming for the host nation. Granted, they can't do anything about it. But it's unfair on every team who is playing this WC.
 
And for people who are coming up with ** like, "UK has no monsoons, & no one can predict the weather in the Isles", can take this argument elsewhere. If the weather at a certain place is so unpredictable, then is it some rocket science to schedule Cricket's biggest LOI tourney to somewhere where there are lesser chances of Rain at this time of year?
The wc can only realistically be played in england, australia or india.
Australia held it last time.
India had problems with pak, so cant be held there.
That only leaves england!
WI and SA world cups were a failure so there cant hold them there.
 
Solution: Don't host ICC events in England until they have retractable roofs for grounds.

We're barely underway and we've lost 2 games already with 3 more likely this week alone...
 
Man the backlash is going to be insane if India-Pak is rained out.
 
Play one wc in Asia and next in Australia and NZ
continue it so on
England should be last place to play cricket, where 90% population don't even know wc is going on in their country
 
Play one wc in Asia and next in Australia and NZ
continue it so on
England should be last place to play cricket, where 90% population don't even know wc is going on in their country
Let's hope the fan backlash is enough to deter the ICC from hosting events in England.

Enough is enough, the place is simply not a good place to play cricket with it's awful weather.

I think we're capable of hosting CT and T20 WCs.
 
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Not in England, anywhere but England.

The winner of this tournament will have an asterisk with so many rained out matches affecting rankings.
But like i said in my earlier post., realstically, only england, australia and india can hold the wc. Australia held it last time. India has problems with pak(and these two make up the mega money match in the wc), so that only leaves australia.
This is the problem of a sport which is played at the top level by less than 10 countries and halve of those being deveoping countries.
 
I’m keeping the faith. England has hosted numerous high quality tournaments in the past. The game would not have survived in England if things were really that bad. The weather will improve.
 
They should have started the tourney on 27th June so majority of the games would have been played in July.

What was the sense in starting the tourney on 30th May knowing that the weather can be terrible in England during may and June.

But even if you get lucky with the weather, how about the mantra of spreading and developing the game?
How will this happen if most teenagers are sitting either for their GCSE's, A Levels or end of year Uni exams??
 
I’m keeping the faith. England has hosted numerous high quality tournaments in the past. The game would not have survived in England if things were really that bad. The weather will improve.

It's still the worst world cup ever, though. Complete disaster both PR wise and financially. Imagine the amount of money to be refunded for washed out matches.
 
I’m keeping the faith. England has hosted numerous high quality tournaments in the past. The game would not have survived in England if things were really that bad. The weather will improve.

Its been a disaster. This has been the worst sporting event I have followed in decades. Its already ruined with games now being called off everyday. Pakistan-Australia looks shoddy as well. Absolutely ridiculous, so many careers riding on it and teams might end up being knocked without even getting a proper chance.
 
I’m keeping the faith. England has hosted numerous high quality tournaments in the past. The game would not have survived in England if things were really that bad. The weather will improve.
The weather is one of the biggest problems in our country. We could improve our gdp significantly, we we had nicer weather. People would go abroad less and spend there holidays in the uk. We could hold more sporting events, one of the reasons we keep failing to get the fifa wc is the weather.
Anyway, the weather hopefully, will improve next week, but the damage has been done.
I feel sorry for ecb, they have done everything to make this a wonderful wc, but the weather has ruined everything!
 
The weather is one of the biggest problems in our country. We could improve our gdp significantly, we we had nicer weather. People would go abroad less and spend there holidays in the uk. We could hold more sporting events, one of the reasons we keep failing to get the fifa wc is the weather.
Anyway, the weather hopefully, will improve next week, but the damage has been done.
I feel sorry for ecb, they have done everything to make this a wonderful wc, but the weather has ruined everything!

ECB has done nothing so far apart from organizing pre tournament event on some road with 45-50 fans in attendance. Grounds are looked after by counties, broadcasting, event management etc have all been done by ICC & Indians.
 
its not ICCs fault but they need to take better and stronger stand for sure..England is the home of cricket so they would put lots of pressure on ICC. Main question is World cup comes around every 4 years...so why would ICC let england get away with prioritising the Ashes!!!. Surely you start the world cup in June till July not in May
 
And for people who are coming up with ** like, "UK has no monsoons, & no one can predict the weather in the Isles", can take this argument elsewhere. If the weather at a certain place is so unpredictable, then is it some rocket science to schedule Cricket's biggest LOI tourney to somewhere where there are lesser chances of Rain at this time of year?

England has hosted five World Cups and this is the only one with bad weather.

Could be climate change kicking in....
 
ECB has done nothing so far apart from organizing pre tournament event on some road with 45-50 fans in attendance. Grounds are looked after by counties, broadcasting, event management etc have all been done by ICC & Indians.
The counties are all affiliated with the ecb. Its a team effort!
Not sure what the indians have done (lol).
 
England has hosted five World Cups and this is the only one with bad weather.

Could be climate change kicking in....
Any outdoor summer event in our country is at the mercy of the weather.
Most of these people come from countries were the weather is very dry(except for monsoon) so they cant appreciate our situation.
Unfortunately, this time the weather has not been kind to us and the criticism of this being the worst world cup(due to the weather) is fair.
 
England has hosted five World Cups and this is the only one with bad weather.

Could be climate change kicking in....

I think ICC is being blamed more for the months they have chosen. Just in 2017 CT, during almost same months we witnessed washouts. I personally wouldnt have blamed ICC if the tournament would have started in late June or July.
 
The previous World Cups were not as big as this, 51 matches, across England and Wales.

Exactly, planning one of the longest world cup in some decades and that too in England during the same season where last ICC tournament also witnessed washouts is incompetency of the highest level.
 
England should be barred from hosting ICC events in June. This is a farce so far

Tomorrow Pakistan's game will be washed out too. What a pathetic world cup this has been!

Could this be another reason why India has played so late in the tournament?
 
Tomorrow Pakistan's game will be washed out too. What a pathetic world cup this has been!

Could this be another reason why India has played so late in the tournament?

BCCI should start a weather dept then. They have been spot on.
 
Tomorrow Pakistan's game will be washed out too. What a pathetic world cup this has been!

Could this be another reason why India has played so late in the tournament?

Rain started mainly in the last couple of weeks and that was when Ind also had games, I dont think India’s late start had something to do with weather. I dont agree with them getting late start but I dont think weather had much to do with it.
 
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Tomorrow Pakistan's game will be washed out too. What a pathetic world cup this has been!

Could this be another reason why India has played so late in the tournament?

India started late due to IPL, not weather. Weather is extremely unpredictable. Also England would have scheduled it late also if they could predict the weather.

Basically, World Cup shouldn't have been played in England.
 
They should have started the tourney on 27th June so majority of the games would have been played in July.

What was the sense in starting the tourney on 30th May knowing that the weather can be terrible in England during may and June.

And what if June was sunny and July horrid?

The current rain is unseasonal, it’s usually nice by now.
 
Tomorrow Pakistan's game will be washed out too. What a pathetic world cup this has been!

Could this be another reason why India has played so late in the tournament?

Well, it’s obvious that BCCI controls the weather.
 
Well, it’s obvious that BCCI controls the weather.

BCCI doesn't control the weather but surely controls when India plays, and rule to play India late due to IPL is absurd because it is not just Indian players were playing almost all the international players were playing, so every team should start late??
 
Tomorrow Pakistan's game will be washed out too. What a pathetic world cup this has been!

Could this be another reason why India has played so late in the tournament?

Lol no they had one justice who made report about cricket and bcci in general about various topics, he said Indian players need 10 day break after IPL or something like that.
 
BCCI doesn't control the weather but surely controls when India plays, and rule to play India late due to IPL is absurd because it is not just Indian players were playing almost all the international players were playing, so every team should start late??

ICC learnt the value of India in 2007 world cup after the initial exit.
 
BCCI should start a weather dept then. They have been spot on.

Rain started mainly in the last couple of weeks and that was when Ind also had games, I dont think India’s late start had something to do with weather. I dont agree with them getting late start but I dont think weather had much to do with it.

India started late due to IPL, not weather. Weather is extremely unpredictable. Also England would have scheduled it late also if they could predict the weather.

Basically, World Cup shouldn't have been played in England.

And what if June was sunny and July horrid?

The current rain is unseasonal, it’s usually nice by now.

Well, it’s obvious that BCCI controls the weather.

Lol no they had one justice who made report about cricket and bcci in general about various topics, he said Indian players need 10 day break after IPL or something like that.

I didnt say BCCI controls the weather. I was just going by what some UK based posters were saying since yesterday that the weather improves from mid june onwards. Thats why i said perhaps thats why the matches of commercial powerhouse India were scheduled a bit late.
 
So far it is. But rain happens. And there's still plenty of the tournament left.

I think it highlights that more steps should be taken for rain affected games. Firstly cricket stadiums which do not have the facilities to deal with the rain should not be used. You can advertise these smaller cricket grounds in ODI series T20s, but not the world cup.

I also think the no. of matches played is too much. You going to get this issue if basically there is a match every day. Instead fewer matches, with each match getting a reserve day. In addition, probably could have held it in July if matches were fewer where less risk of rain. Groups are probably the right idea.

Retractable roofs would be nice, but realistically are hard/expensive to implement. There were other precautions that could have been taken first.
 
Anyway the huge rain belt is heading North-East and should be gone soon and then more matches will finish.
 
I didnt say BCCI controls the weather. I was just going by what some UK based posters were saying since yesterday that the weather improves from mid june onwards. Thats why i said perhaps thats why the matches of commercial powerhouse India were scheduled a bit late.

No Indian marches were scheduled late because of the justice recommendations nothing to do with weather.
 
Every world cup is recognised for some great moments. This world cup so far is being remembered for non cricketing moments.
Unless whatever is left of the tournament produces some memorable moments this world cup will be an absolute shocker.
 
Every world cup is recognised for some great moments. This world cup so far is being remembered for non cricketing moments.
Unless whatever is left of the tournament produces some memorable moments this world cup will be an absolute shocker.

I agree, putting everything aside, the bails not coming off FIVE times trumps the lot thus far!
 
Was listening to an interesting stats, not sure if posted before that 4 WC matches have been washout from 1975 to 2015 edition. If its true than already it will cross the history record in single tournament :))
 
75 - first world cup ever always memorable.
79 - The dominance of WI, Viv Richards innings in final.
83 - David Vs Goliath.
87 - don't know much about it maybe someone else can talk about this one.
92 - Pakistan comeback, imranks cornered tiger speech and Wasims spell. Miandad mocking more also for funny bit.
96 - sanath and kaluwitharna changing cricket forever, WI demise, Venkatesh Vs Aamir Sohail. Jadeja Vs Waqar. Kambli crying.
99 - Lance klusener, herchelle Gibbs drop catch, the most infamous runout in cricket history. BD defeating pakistan
2003 - Australian dominance. India's comeback to reach finals.
2007 - sad demise of Bob woolmer, India and Pakistan crashing out.
2011 - sachins dream come true, MSD six to win the final, Ireland chasing 330+, Mohali semi final biggest game ever between India and Pakistan. Yuvi's all round brilliance
2015 - New Zealand's blistering start, SA Vs NZ and Dale Steyns beating in semis, Mitchel starc destruction, Smith's innings.
2019 - So far on positive side only comeback of WI fast bowling. Rest of the tournament has been a disaster because of bad scheduling, bad umpiring, bails not getting dislodged, and worst of all so many important matches being washed out and would be washed out.

If the weather becomes better some memorable cricket needs to be played for fans to remember this world cup for the positives and not negatives.
 
75 - first world cup ever always memorable.
79 - The dominance of WI, Viv Richards innings in final.
83 - David Vs Goliath.
87 - don't know much about it maybe someone else can talk about this one.
92 - Pakistan comeback, imranks cornered tiger speech and Wasims spell. Miandad mocking more also for funny bit.
96 - sanath and kaluwitharna changing cricket forever, WI demise, Venkatesh Vs Aamir Sohail. Jadeja Vs Waqar. Kambli crying.
99 - Lance klusener, herchelle Gibbs drop catch, the most infamous runout in cricket history. BD defeating pakistan
2003 - Australian dominance. India's comeback to reach finals.
2007 - sad demise of Bob woolmer, India and Pakistan crashing out.
2011 - sachins dream come true, MSD six to win the final, Ireland chasing 330+, Mohali semi final biggest game ever between India and Pakistan. Yuvi's all round brilliance
2015 - New Zealand's blistering start, SA Vs NZ and Dale Steyns beating in semis, Mitchel starc destruction, Smith's innings.
2019 - So far on positive side only comeback of WI fast bowling. Rest of the tournament has been a disaster because of bad scheduling, bad umpiring, bails not getting dislodged, and worst of all so many important matches being washed out and would be washed out.

If the weather becomes better some memorable cricket needs to be played for fans to remember this world cup for the positives and not negatives.
87 the first subcontinent wc, the first outside england. India vs pakistan final was expected, both failed in the semis. England vs australia final, england were romping home to win the cup until.gatting threw his wicket away to alan border of all people and england collasped. Australia winning their first wc and the start of australian cricket dominance, which would last for the next 2 decades(with a blip in 1992wc).
 
You cannot possibly say "This team is the best team" after so many rained out matches.
Yeah, it's become comical.

By the end of the week when every game is washed out, it will be tough for the winner to say they deserved it.

I hope we don't win this one because everyone will question it.

What a disaster, ICC got to do something to save the tournament.
 
WC should have started in late June ideally.

I love watching cricket in England. Its amazing!
 
Same thing can be said about American sports by a cricket fan. They all feel lame compared to cricket.
Basketball is just ridiculous if you ask me.

What lol? I can imagine you not seeing it and saying, I was similar too before once you get into basketball,footbal(Soccer-not a fan though) or even Ice Hockey, imo they are way better and more fun and competitive.

Rain cancelling any sport and tea breaks etc are really killing the game sorry to say.
 
2007 would have been a great World Cup if Pakistan and India were in the Super 8s instead of Bangladesh and Ireland.

Nobody wanted to watch Ireland and Bangladesh.

2007 was the only format where you could have 8 other bottom ranked sides.

There is honestly no room for minnows in World Cups if ICC felt robbed when Ireland and Bangladesh made it through and not Pakistan and India.

Otherwise 2007 format was the best one available, all the teams got to play the top sides.
 
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Another washout on the horizon. How can anyone take the point table seriously? NZ played Afg, Srl, BD now when they are playing Ind game is washout. Some joke this world cup.

Asia Cup was way better than this. Might as well go watch Liton Das century in the final.
 
What are your thoughts on the 2019 World Cup so far?

From the games I've watched so far, the turning points were:

Eng vs Pak: Jason Roy dropping Mohammad Hafeez at long-off. (turned the game, cost the match)
Babar dropping Joe Root, went on to score a century (turned the innings, nearly won the game).

SA vs BD: Du plessis & Van der dussen both getting-bowled after scoring-fifties charging down-the-wicket.
Phehlukwayo & Morris hitting low full-tosses straight to the fielders.

WI vs Aus: Windies fielder dropping Coulter-Nile catch at the boundary,
Andre Russell skying Mitchell Starc, caught by Maxwell, after hitting him for a boundary the previous ball (ego dismissal).

BD vs NZ: umpire/hawk-eye didn't give santner plumb LBW to Saifuddin.
(hawk-eye/DRS manipulation showing half-a-centimeter of the ball pitching outside the computer-generated mat.)

Aus vs Ind: Carey dropping Pandya's dolly catch behind the stumps first ball (would've been out golden duck otherwise).
David Warner (robbed the innings off momentum, got Finch run-out).

Pak vs Aus : Asif Ali dropping Aaron Finch, dropping warner's dolly - both off Wahab's bowling.
Imam-ul-haq deliberately gloving a wayward Pat Cummins leg-side WIDE delivery.
Hafeez hitting a Finch full-toss straight down Starc's throat.

selection blunders:

Bangladesh: choosing mithun, mosaddek over Sabbir rahman, Rubel hossain; Not picking Taskin Ahmed over abu Jayed. Mistake-prone Mushfiqur keeping instead of Liton.

Pakistan: picking useless Asif ali (good-for-nothing), fossil shoaib Malik;
dropping Shadab khan (best fielder, wicket-taker), dropping Imad wasim (handy batsman, frugal spinner providing crucial breakthroughs).

Australia: picking zampa over Nathan Lyon, Justin Langer's overt WA bias showing through - choosing mediocre players like coulter-nile, shaun marsh, kane richardson, stoinis for a WC campaign, instead of playing Behrendorff; not picking Stanlake, Hazlewood or Handscomb.

Sri Lanka: Power-mad coach Hathurasinghe dropping middle-order linchpin Dinesh chandimal, leaving-out game-changers like niroshan Dickwella or pacer Chameera, instead picking lazy Thirimanne, mediocre-nobodies like siriwardene, dhananjaya, vandersay, jeevan mendis.

South Africa: Letting go of Riley Rossouw, Not choosing AB de Villiers or Reeza hendricks; instead picking ipl sell-outs like morris, geriatric Amla.

England: David Willey will be a big miss, they will also miss Alex Hales (vince is not the answer) when Roy fails.

Afghanistan: making pig-headed gulbadin the captain; marginalizing stalwarts like asghar stanikzai, samiullah shenwari.

thoughts?
 
All the wash out matches could have been very interesting and evenly-fought.
BD-SL
Pak-SL
SA-WI
Ind-NZ

SL has been the most fortunate/unfortunate so far.
 
The only people defending this WC are those from England.

For the rest of us lucky "lads", this has been a poorly planned and horribly executed tournament.
 
All the wash out matches could have been very interesting and evenly-fought.
BD-SL
Pak-SL
SA-WI
Ind-NZ

SL has been the most fortunate/unfortunate so far.

Add NZ. Their fixture was so easy. Only challenging game got washed out. They also couldve lost to BD but lucked out on that occasion.
 
All the wash out matches could have been very interesting and evenly-fought.
BD-SL
Pak-SL
SA-WI
Ind-NZ

SL has been the most fortunate/unfortunate so far.

NZ is also very fortuante. all their easy games went through and now as they are starting difficult games they are getting easy points. One more such washout against England or Aus then they are firmly in Semis without breaking much sweat
 
Play ipl in england and you will change your mind!

Play IPL in India in June and July you will face the same situation. That is the reason BCCI organizes in April/May. that is +1 for planning and providing best chance for the tournament to succeed

In this case nothing is stopping ICC to cover the whole ground. Atleast Pak/SL match could have gone through if the whole ground was covered. can't they invest in covers? how about having multiple super soppers? how much will they cost, can't they afford them? why not rent some choppers to dry the pitches? if third world countries can do that for their local tournaments why can't ICC do that in UK? why not improve drainage? they had four years to plan. i have seen matches starting in couple hours after monsoon torrential rains in India, BD and SL due to much better drainage and ground staff. Rain is out of ICC control but what they do once it stops raining or to prevent much damage while it is raining is fully in ICC hands. they have failed to do their jobs due to incompetency. India, BD and SL would have done a much better job.
 
The only people defending this WC are those from England.

For the rest of us lucky "lads", this has been a poorly planned and horribly executed tournament.

This approach by ICC is a prime example of "Upar wale pe bharosa rakho" while not planning anything for contingencies.
 
Absolutely pathetic WC so many washouts has the lost the charm Sack the Ceo of ICC for rubbish scheduling and format where are the QF's :13:
 
Only if Pakistan lose otherwise it will become their new 1992, unpredictable, cornered tigers, etc.
 
Been a good tournament. Afghanistan have been a disappointment though, getting rolled over without a fight.

Only negative of this tournament is the rain, but after this week I think the forecast will be better and we won't be seeing many more called off games.
 
Some good observation on the BD vs NZ game. I forgot about that close call of Santer LBW. In replay, they showed the ball was just pitching outside leg. NZ would been 222-8 at that stage. Also, there was a chance to run out Neesham at 164-5. Neesham was just barely starting his innings. All these marginal events/call is really hurting Bangladesh [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]


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