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Is the settling down of Pakistani citizens abroad a good or bad thing for Pakistan?

Is the settling down of Pakistani citizens abroad a good or bad for Pakistan?


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Interesting question.

During a recent trip to Pakistan, a few people told me that Pakistanis going abroad was a good thing as it allowed foreign wealth to flow into Pakistan and more importantly, created more employment for those left behind!

Do you agree?
 
It depends. If Pak is producing large number of doctors, engineers and other professionals and they are in surplus, it is a good idea. Not only it brings much needed foreign exchange, it also improves ties with countries where Pakistanis are immigrating.
If there is a shortage of human capital in Pak, it is brain drain and not so good.
 
It depends. If Pak is producing large number of doctors, engineers and other professionals and they are in surplus, it is a good idea. Not only it brings much needed foreign exchange, it also improves ties with countries where Pakistanis are immigrating.
If there is a shortage of human capital in Pak, it is brain drain and not so good.


Very well put sir.
 
Majority of Pakistanis that are moving abroad are trained professionals in medicine, engineering or computer science. Another major chunk of Pakistanis that move abroad are the brightest minds in the country who gain admissions in foreign universities and then reside in that country. All of this causes huge brain drain.

Majority of foreign cash inflow is from folks who go to Middle East etc for blue collared jobs and sustain their families in Pakistan.
 
Also keep in mind, Pakistanis keep electing garbage like Nawaz or Zardari, which puts off even those Pakistanis that are willing to give up their luxuries and easy life in foreign countries to move back to Pakistan to put in the hard yards and give back to the country.
 
Also keep in mind, Pakistanis keep electing garbage like Nawaz or Zardari, which puts off even those Pakistanis that are willing to give up their luxuries and easy life in foreign countries to move back to Pakistan to put in the hard yards and give back to the country.

Even if their favorite politician gets elected, trust me they still wont come back. Online patriotism is cheap, and corrupt politicians is a just a pretext for the real reasons due to which they are not willing to come back.

Don't take it personally, as far as I am aware you are returning to Pakistan which is good to see.
 
Good for the people. But as a country bad thing in long term.

Eidhi is my personal favorite but even if we have 1000s of Eidhis Pakistan's problems won't solve.

We need skilled people in Pakistan. Tab hi bahar ka paisa Pakistan aa skta hai when we start manufacturing our own things and export them outside Pakistan. More money and with time it will improve illiteracy, unemployment, extremism, corruption, poverty etc.
 
Also keep in mind, Pakistanis keep electing garbage like Nawaz or Zardari, which puts off even those Pakistanis that are willing to give up their luxuries and easy life in foreign countries to move back to Pakistan to put in the hard yards and give back to the country.

:)) This is convenient excuse to cover ones guilt. It is fine to migrate to another place for a better life, one need not seek a justification or excuse.
 
‘Manpower exports’ and the remittances that derive therefrom, have formed an important component of Pakistan’s economy from the late 1970s. This is not only as a source of foreign exchange, cushioning the trade account deficit, but also in relieving poverty and enabling many to weather the storms during periods of economic hardship. Indeed, it might be speculated that remittances, along with networks of kinship support, are understated factors in explaining Pakistan’s ‘resilience’ and ability to avert economic collapse.

Of course, it is not all good news, as the not insignificant reliance on remittances mean that Pakistan is exposed to economic and geopolitical developments outside its control in the countries from which remittances come from. Loss of skilled workers may also contribute to the so-called ‘brain drain’ as already mentioned.

On the whole though, I think there is a strong argument that remittances have had a positive impact on Pakistan’s economy.
 
I am not sure why that is even a question? The more skilled and or qualified person is greater loss to the donar country. Brain drain is always bad, that is one thing you don’t want to export. Receiving country get better brain at cheaper cost, who would not like well trained individuals who can hit the ground running day one?

Society spends a lot on Doctors and engineers for instance, if you just train them for others, that’s a huge loss.

For my generation that ship had sailed a long time ago, not just mine but 3 gens after me as well. Tide is not going to shift until we change culture. It has little to do with politics, lot to do culture. Politics is just small piece. Most people are delusional, this thinking that whole country can be turned upside down by changing few personal is far fetched. Culture is long term investment, since most people believe there is nothing wrong with it, hence core remain same.
 
Even if their favorite politician gets elected, trust me they still wont come back. Online patriotism is cheap, and corrupt politicians is a just a pretext for the real reasons due to which they are not willing to come back.

Don't take it personally, as far as I am aware you are returning to Pakistan which is good to see.

Nobody wants to move to a 3rd world country, fam.
 
Nobody wants to move to a 3rd world country, fam.

Yes that is a good enough reason, but to claim that oh we don't want to live in Pakistan because the politicians are corrupt is embarrassingly disingenuous.

By the way, "fam" has to be one of the most annoying slang terms ever, but good to see that the Yanks have finally picked it up from Brits after a good decade.
 
Interesting question.

During a recent trip to Pakistan, a few people told me that Pakistanis going abroad was a good thing as it allowed foreign wealth to flow into Pakistan and more importantly, created more employment for those left behind!

Do you agree?

I think that attitude is part of the whole problem in Pakistan. There seems to be a culture of expectancy for handouts from abroad rather than creating wealth or income locally. In a developing country you would think there would be massive opportunities for business, although perhaps not as attractive for professionals so from that point of view you can understand why skilled people would leave.
 
By the way, "fam" has to be one of the most annoying slang terms ever, but good to see that the Yanks have finally picked it up from Brits after a good decade.

I like the Aussie catchword "champ" better.
 
Brain drain would be a problem where you had limited supply of such people but look at the output of the unis!
 
Good for the people. But as a country bad thing in long term.

Eidhi is my personal favorite but even if we have 1000s of Eidhis Pakistan's problems won't solve.

We need skilled people in Pakistan. Tab hi bahar ka paisa Pakistan aa skta hai when we start manufacturing our own things and export them outside Pakistan. More money and with time it will improve illiteracy, unemployment, extremism, corruption, poverty etc.

Agree with this on all counts.

The country can't make true progress when so many highly qualified people keep going overseas. Though obviously it will be good for them more often that not.
 
Educated, skilled professionals leaving Pakistan is EXTREMELY bad for the economy and the country itself. While it may bring Mony into the country in the form of remittances in the short term, it still does not make it a positive thing for the country on the whole. Only the first generation of expats are likely to have any association with their homeland but their children and the generation after that become integrated into the new society and not a single millennial would send hard earned money to a bunch of distant relatives.
 
Brain drain would be a problem where you had limited supply of such people but look at the output of the unis!

Also the Bureau of Emigration & Overseas Employment statistics suggest that highly qualified (e.g. doctors, engineers, teachers) and highly skilled (e.g. nurses, supervisors, computer programmers) are in fact a very small proportion of Pakistani emigrants. They formed less than 3% of the migrants in 2016. There are more skilled emigrants (e.g welders, masons, carpenters, electricians) - about 40%, with the rest being unskilled (e.g agriculturists, labourers) or semi-skilled (e.g. cooks, waiters).

Therefore Pakistan still predominantly exports low skilled workers.
 
Y'all complaining about high skilled people leaving Pakistan yet don't want to pay them high wages.
 
What does a fresh MBA get in Pakistan? Rs. 25,000-35,000?

What does that get ya? In Lahore, Any decent apartment's rent is alone upwards of 35,000.
 
It benefits Pakistan as the people who move abroad can send remittances to family, send money to charity, visit as tourist, create a positive image of Pakistanis for westerners.

It also benefits Pakistanis who live in Pakistan to move abroad as they are taking a short cut into the first wold. Western countries took centuries to get where they are today. So it really is a win win.
 
Both good and bad. Good coz they most talented get a better chance to shine and bad due to Pakistan losing out on their talent. For Pakistan the country it is bad unless these people eventually return home.
 
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