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What will it take to start a revolution of the kind we have seen in Bangladesh?

What are the factors do you think are most likely to contribute to a revolution in Pakistan?

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Could Pakistan have a revolution like Bangladesh did in 2024? It's a scary question because people are unhappy and history shows us it's possible.

We can't know for sure, but looking at what happened in Bangladesh helps us understand what might cause a revolution in Pakistan. If the economy gets really bad, the government becomes unfair, and different regions feel ignored, things could get out of control.

This is a look at Pakistan right now, exploring what might cause a revolution and what it would mean for the country.

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Why is the Bangladeshi government facing so much anger?

Bangladesh is in turmoil.

Street protests are not new to this South Asian nation of 170 million people – but the violence that has unfolded in the last few weeks has been described as some of the worst in living memory.

Some 300 people have died so far according to news agency AFP, with at least 94 killed on Sunday alone, including 13 police officers - the worst single day casualty figure from any demonstrations in Bangladesh’s recent history.

Bangladeshi media and protesters say the police is largely responsible for the spiralling death toll. The government says that officers have only ever opened fire out of self-defence or to protect state property.

Now, thousands are calling for Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina - who has ruled the nation since 2009 - to resign.

The government has responded by implementing an unprecedented nationwide curfew and continuing to cut off internet access in parts of the country.

How did the protests begin?

The protests, which have been ongoing since early July, began with peaceful demands from university students to abolish quotas in civil service jobs - a third of which are reserved for relatives of veterans from Bangladesh’s war for independence from Pakistan in 1971.

The campaigners had argued the system was discriminatory and needed to be overhauled, but although their demands were largely met, the protests have since transformed into a wider anti-government movement.

Ms Hasina remains defiant, describing those demonstrating against her administration as "terrorists who are out to destabilise the nation".

But the United Nations has called for an end to the "shocking violence" and urged restraint from Bangladeshi politicians and security forces.

"The government must cease targeting those participating peacefully in the protest movement, immediately release those arbitrarily detained, restore full internet access, and create conditions for meaningful dialogue," its human rights chief, Volker Türk said in a statement on Sunday.

With fresh marches planned to take place in the capital Dhaka, there are growing fears of further bloodshed.

What has turned into a nationwide campaign of civil disobedience has yet to show any signs of abating.

“It’s not students anymore, it seems that people from all walks of life have joined the protest movement,” Dr Samina Luthfa, assistant professor of sociology in the University of Dhaka, tells the BBC.

Why are people angry?

The protests have been a long time coming. Though Bangladesh is one of the fastest growing economies in the world, experts point out that growth has not translated into jobs for university graduates.

Estimates suggest that around 18 million young Bangladeshis are looking for jobs. University graduates face higher rates of unemployment than their less-educated peers.

Bangladesh has become a powerhouse of ready-to-wear clothing exports. The country exports around $40 billion worth of clothes to the global market.

The sector employs more than four million people, many of them women. But factory jobs are not sufficient for the aspiring younger generation.

Under Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina’s 15-year rule, Bangladesh has transformed itself by building new roads, bridges, factories and even a metro rail.

Its per-capita income has tripled in the last decade and the World Bank estimates that more than 25 million people have been lifted out of poverty in the last 20 years.

But many say that some of that growth is only helping those close to Ms Hasina’s Awami League.

Dr Luthfa says: “We are witnessing so much corruption. Especially among those close to the ruling party. Corruption has been continuing for a long time without being punished.”

Social media in Bangladesh in recent months has been dominated by discussions about corruption allegations against some of Ms Hasina’s former top officials – including a former army chief, ex-police chief, senior tax officers and state recruitment officials.

In mid-July Ms Hasina promised she would act against corruption and acknowledged it as a long-standing problem.

During the same press conference in Dhaka, she said she had taken action against a household assistant after he allegedly amassed $34 million. She did not identify the individual.

The reaction of the Bangladeshi media was that this much money could only have been accumulated through lobbying for government contracts, corruption, or bribery.

The anti-corruption commission in Bangladesh has launched an investigation into former police chief Benazir Ahmed – once seen as a close ally of Ms Hasina – for amassing millions of dollars, allegedly through illegal means. He denies the allegations.

This news didn’t escape ordinary people in the country, who are struggling with the escalating cost of living.

In addition to corruption allegations, many rights activists point out that space for democratic activity has shrunk over the past 15 years.

“For three consecutive elections, there has been no credible free and fair polling process,” Meenakshi Ganguly, South Asia director at Human Rights Watch, told the BBC.

“[Ms Hasina] has perhaps underestimated the level of dissatisfaction people had about being denied the most basic democratic right to choose their own leader,” Ms Ganguly said.

The main opposition Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP) boycotted elections in 2014 and 2024 saying free and fair elections were not possible under Ms Hasina and that they wanted the polls to be held under a neutral caretaker administration.

Ms Hasina has always rejected this demand.

Rights groups also say more than 80 people, many of them government critics, have disappeared in the past 15 years, and that their families have no information on their whereabouts.

The government is accused of stifling dissent and the media, amid wider concerns that Ms Hasina has grown increasingly autocratic over the years. But ministers deny the charges.

“The anger against the government and the ruling party have been accumulating for a long time,” says Dr Luthfa.

“People are showing their anger now. People resort to protest if they don’t have any recourse left.”

How has the government reacted?

Ms Hasina’s ministers say the government has shown extreme restraint despite what they describe as provocative actions by protesters.

They say demonstrations have been infiltrated by their political opposition and by Islamist parties, who they say initiated the violence.

Law Minister Anisul Huq said the government was open to discussing the issues.

“The government has been reaching out to the student protesters. When there is a reasonable argument, we are willing to listen,” he told the BBC in July.

The student protests are probably the biggest challenge that has faced Ms Hasina since she took power again in 2009.

How they are resolved will depend on how she handles the unrest and, most importantly, how she addresses the public's growing anger.

SOURCE: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq5xye1d285o
 
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You called this is a revolution where father of a nation statue was destroyed

Or minorities houses are burnt and raped by goons ??
 
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You called this is a revolution where father of a nation statue was destroyed

Or minorities houses are burnt and raped by goons ??

Don't talk about something you know nothing about.

People of Bangladesh wanted Hasina gone for different reasons. You Indians don't get to decide who gets to be in power in Bangladesh.
 
Back to topic.

For a revolution to take place, things have to become really bad. When your back is on the wall, you have nothing to lose.

Bangladeshis were literally willing to take bullets and they took bullets. 1000+ died. So, it has been achieved with blood and sacrifice.
 
Don't talk about something you know nothing about.

People of Bangladesh wanted Hasina gone for different reasons. You Indians don't get to decide who gets to be in power in Bangladesh.
Calm down .this is public forums and we will discuss what we want .

Yes destroying and raped hindu girl is what they can do .

Or they can killed people's like how they were killed entirely Shek mujibur Rehman family. Even not spread 10 year child of bagla bandhu

Don't lecture me what to discuss .
 
Back to topic.

For a revolution to take place, things have to become really bad. When your back is on the wall, you have nothing to lose.

Bangladeshis were literally willing to take bullets and they took bullets. 1000+ died. So, it has been achieved with blood and sacrifice.

1000+ died and thousands got injured.

So, yeah. It didn't come easy. People had to be on the streets for almost a month. Even NRBs (Bangladeshis who live abroad) did their parts by cutting off remittances and calling out Awami League leaders/bootlickers online.

I believe Sri Lanka also did the same and they were also successful in toppling their government.
 
First of all, whatever happened in Bangladesh is nothing to aspire. That country has just destroyed itself for decades. They shot themselves in the foot when they had just barely stood up and had started to walk.

That being said, Pakistanis as an awaam doesn’t have it in them to pull off something even much lesser than this. They are only good at dancing, singing, tik tok.
 
You guys already had the moment last year and that fizzled. and revolutions are nothing to aspire for, Its usally bloody and results are almost always reverse of what such revolutionaries desired.
Has there been a successful violent revolution that led to democracy anytime in history?
 
First of all, whatever happened in Bangladesh is nothing to aspire. That country has just destroyed itself for decades. They shot themselves in the foot when they had just barely stood up and had started to walk.

That being said, Pakistanis as an awaam doesn’t have it in them to pull off something even much lesser than this. They are only good at dancing, singing, tik tok.
Nope nobody could beat India in dancing as PTV doesn't run frequent dancing shows like India. People of Pakistan run a successful campaign for judicial autonomy back in 2009, although things have changed again.

What have Indians done except killing their own countrymen in so called riots
 
One thing was great from Pakistan people's when they were against the military and goverment. ( may 9 )

They were not harm or killed any innocent people's . .they were fighting only against corrupt institutions but unfortunately they were not succeed due to powerful military.
 
Nope nobody could beat India in dancing as PTV doesn't run frequent dancing shows like India. People of Pakistan run a successful campaign for judicial autonomy back in 2009, although things have changed again.

What have Indians done except killing their own countrymen in so called riots

Why are you getting so touchy. It’s a fact that Pakistanis have historically been embarrassingly poor at political activism. One of the reasons for this is it demands real discipline, leadership. sacrifice and courage to go all the way against the establishment.

Pakistanis of the last couple of generations have been known to be extremely dossile at everything.

These are not even my words. Every half decent Pakistani Political commentator says the same thing today on a regular basis.
 
Don't talk about something you know nothing about.

People of Bangladesh wanted Hasina gone for different reasons. You Indians don't get to decide who gets to be in power in Bangladesh.
As someone who hates gandhi (whom I don't consider father of nation, nor has he been officially accepted), I want to know what are the reasons bangladeshis hate Mujibur Rahman? Because he fathered Haseena, or there were other crimes against the nation done by him?
 
Back to topic.

For a revolution to take place, things have to become really bad. When your back is on the wall, you have nothing to lose.

Bangladeshis were literally willing to take bullets and they took bullets. 1000+ died. So, it has been achieved with blood and sacrifice.

From what I've seen Pakistanis don't really have things that bad. Many of them are living on contributions from relatives in the west, or investment from IMF loans which is kicking the can down the road indefinitely. They spend most of their time drinking chai on street corners and complaining about politicians. Protests probably seem like too much hard work.
 
Credit to the people of Bangladesh up until this point it is actually similar to Pakistan.

Corrupt dynastic politician given the tap on the shoulder by the army. They flee to the West.

The next stage seems different. Army doesn't ( seemingly) want to rule or install puppets.
 
From what I've seen Pakistanis don't really have things that bad. Many of them are living on contributions from relatives in the west, or investment from IMF loans which is kicking the can down the road indefinitely. They spend most of their time drinking chai on street corners and complaining about politicians. Protests probably seem like too much hard work.
I think people need to visit Pakistan before passing judgement. It truly is a unique place.

Sure it is not improving much but the current situation isn't as bleak as it's made out by outsiders where it is often painted that the country is at the brink of starvation.

People are chilling ( mainly).
 
What has truly separated this revolution is the participation of women. Women in hijab and jeans and t-shirt holding hands, marching side by side with their male comrades. Bengali mothers famous for doting on their children, readying them in armor, where the armor consisted of utensils to give some protection against the bullets.
 
What has truly separated this revolution is the participation of women. Women in hijab and jeans and t-shirt holding hands, marching side by side with their male comrades. Bengali mothers famous for doting on their children, readying them in armor, where the armor consisted of utensils to give some protection against the bullets.

Yeah. Ladies did a good job. They did their part.

A little kid was punching a police officer on the stomach. LOL. Police didn't do anything thankfully. He was trying to console the kid.
 
Yeah. Ladies did a good job. They did their part.

A little kid was punching a police officer on the stomach. LOL. Police didn't do anything thankfully. He was trying to console the kid.
Right now I think the police are afraid of their lives. But it's somewhat concerning that the military is still not actively policing the country and maintaining discipline. Some are concerned that they are trying to portray an image of indispensability to the public and trying to pave a way for military rule backing on the general sentiment.
 
Right now I think the police are afraid of their lives. But it's somewhat concerning that the military is still not actively policing the country and maintaining discipline. Some are concerned that they are trying to portray an image of indispensability to the public and trying to pave a way for military rule backing on the general sentiment.

I see.

Let's see how things pan out.

At least we don't have to worry about chetona folks (Awami League) now in sha Allah. That chapter is done.
 
why do you want it? revolution is overrated. Which country in modern times have had revolutions which resulted in stable governments? Arab springs, scores of countries in Africa, South America, etc just ended worse than what they were. You want stable government and political situation to stabilize and slow grow your country. Pakistanis here may not like the current government, but if this government survives for few years, that political stability will help Pakistan. BD government may or may not have been autocratic and poorly managed it did give them political stability and ensured BD grew consistently for a decade. Pak will also have the same phase if they have some patience and support their government, any government for a decade or so.
 
As someone who hates gandhi (whom I don't consider father of nation, nor has he been officially accepted), I want to know what are the reasons bangladeshis hate Mujibur Rahman? Because he fathered Haseena, or there were other crimes against the nation done by him?
A large majority of the general public actually respects him, or used to. However, in the last 15 years, his daughter has tried to shove him down people's throats at every opportunity. Everything was named after him. The entire month of August was declared a month of mourning because of the murder of him and his family. People were writing books about him, creating statues, and doing whatever they could to praise him to gain favor from the government. Any official statement, no matter what the topic was, often started by mentioning him. Any achievement in any sector was attributed to Sheikh Mujib dreaming or planning it 50 years ago.
 
A large majority of the general public actually respects him, or used to. However, in the last 15 years, his daughter has tried to shove him down people's throats at every opportunity. Everything was named after him. The entire month of August was declared a month of mourning because of the murder of him and his family. People were writing books about him, creating statues, and doing whatever they could to praise him to gain favor from the government. Any official statement, no matter what the topic was, often started by mentioning him. Any achievement in any sector was attributed to Sheikh Mujib dreaming or planning it 50 years ago.
Sounds like she was trying to make him the Kim Jong-il of Bangladesh.
 
Can we talk about the topic of the thread here???

No need to bring Gandhi Nehru of or irrelevant stuff here.
 
First of all, whatever happened in Bangladesh is nothing to aspire. That country has just destroyed itself for decades. They shot themselves in the foot when they had just barely stood up and had started to walk.

That being said, Pakistanis as an awaam doesn’t have it in them to pull off something even much lesser than this. They are only good at dancing, singing, tik tok.
The only group in Pakistan that mobilized in thousands and took to streets is TLP. But they are no good.
 
You need CIA , unfortunately they support your Army.
This.

You need massive funding from a foreign power to over throw a government this way where the PM had to leave the country in a matter of hours permanently.

I initially thought it could be China. Now I feel it could be CIA. All leftie outlets in US are calling Hasina a dictator and vilifying her. But by removing Hasina, they gave an opening for extremists in BD. We are already seeing what they are doing to the Hindu minority there.
 
A large majority of the general public actually respects him, or used to. However, in the last 15 years, his daughter has tried to shove him down people's throats at every opportunity. Everything was named after him. The entire month of August was declared a month of mourning because of the murder of him and his family. People were writing books about him, creating statues, and doing whatever they could to praise him to gain favor from the government. Any official statement, no matter what the topic was, often started by mentioning him. Any achievement in any sector was attributed to Sheikh Mujib dreaming or planning it 50 years ago.

As weird as it sounds , there’s no problem in using a hero to propel the country in the right direction. But only as long as progress is actually happening.

Every country has icons.
 
The only group in Pakistan that mobilized in thousands and took to streets is TLP. But they are no good.

Stay away from all this.
Focus on studies and nation building.

What Bangladeshis did was donkey business.
 
Hearing a news about another revolution by students but this time in pakistan

The Pakistan Student Federation (PSF) has issued an ultimatum to the government, demanding the release of former Prime Minister Imran Khan by August 30th.
 
Hearing a news about another revolution by students but this time in pakistan

The Pakistan Student Federation (PSF) has issued an ultimatum to the government, demanding the release of former Prime Minister Imran Khan by August 30th.

The land of Punjab has never had any revolution. I'll believe it when I see Imran Khan released on Aug 30 - which ain't gonna happen.
 
This.

You need massive funding from a foreign power to over throw a government this way where the PM had to leave the country in a matter of hours permanently.

I initially thought it could be China. Now I feel it could be CIA. All leftie outlets in US are calling Hasina a dictator and vilifying her. But by removing Hasina, they gave an opening for extremists in BD. We are already seeing what they are doing to the Hindu minority there.
Typical leftist behaviour. They always end up supporting the islamist fundies, only to regret it later.
Not many people know that the 1979 revolution in Iran was actually started by Iranian leftists. Ayatollah Khomeini just joined hands with them and when things started working well, he pushed the leftists aside and took over the revolution. The first thing Khomeini did after coming to power was to jail all those leftists.

Won't be surprised if something similar happens in Bangladesh. I'm fairly certain most of those protesting students are leftists. Now they have opened the doors for the Jamaat.
 
Typical leftist behaviour. They always end up supporting the islamist fundies, only to regret it later.
Not many people know that the 1979 revolution in Iran was actually started by Iranian leftists. Ayatollah Khomeini just joined hands with them and when things started working well, he pushed the leftists aside and took over the revolution. The first thing Khomeini did after coming to power was to jail all those leftists.

Won't be surprised if something similar happens in Bangladesh. I'm fairly certain most of those protesting students are leftists. Now they have opened the doors for the Jamaat.

This is for Bangladeshi people to decide and handle.

You Indians don't have to butt in. You don't get to decide who is the leader of Bangladesh.

If Bangladeshis want a right-wing government, it is their decision and their right.
 
Hopefully Pakistan students won't killed or burnt minorities house, temple likes Bangladesh Islamists goons are doing .
 
The most beautiful moment captured of this revolution I have so far seen. ❤️ The song they are singing Is written by D.L. Roy a Hindu poet.
 
Pakistan doesn't really have much history of revolution does it? India and Bangladesh both have long history of communist movements. But Communists are almost afterthoughts in Pakistan.
 
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