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Is this an England choke or a power-packed Pakistani performance?

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I honestly think the bowling and fielding have just been outstanding. The bowlers maintained the pressure throughout the first innings so far (Eng: 164 - 6) and have strangled the English batsmen.

Pakistan have also unearthed gems in their bowling attack

Hasan Ali in middle overs (11-40) in CT17: 25-1-78-6.

and Junaid Khan 7-0-34-2.

Its just the batting that needs to re-invent itself and we have a very very good ODI team.

:afridi1

England havent choked by themselves.... Pakistan has choked them into submission...
 
Plenty of soft dismissals so I'd say it's more of a choke. England have made us look better than we have been.
 
All credit goes to Sarfaraz for this England choke he literally grabbed them by the neck... continuously guiding these bowlers...
Youngsters have come good with Sarfaraz... it's time to kick out remaining dinosaurs...
 
Not a choke, England's middle order hacks exposed in conditions where there's a little bit for their bowlers.
 
Mamoon said:
Plenty of soft dismissals so I'd say it's more of a choke. England have made us look better than we have been.
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No Pakistan have outperformed England. It's not Pakistans fault England can't handle the pressure.
 
Mamoon said:
Plenty of soft dismissals so I'd say it's more of a choke. England have made us look better than we have been.
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England's middle order was always going to struggle on a pitch with a bit in it. Pakistan have bowled exceptionally well.
 
Our bowlers destroyed SA - it was called a South African choke

Our bowlers ran through SL - it was a Sri Lankan choke

Now Pakistani bowlers showing their class against England - and people are suggesting that England are choking

MashAllah the bowlers have really stepped up after the India game and they should be given full credit. Brilliant bowling, applying constant pressure and no real weak links in the bowling unit at the moment is the reason the bowlers have done so well MashAllah.

When the likes of Hasan, Junaid, Amir, Shadab etc. are on fire - they are an absolute handful for any batting line up as they have proved in this competition mashAllah.
 
Haven't seen England struggle this much in recent past , none of the bowlers gave any easy overs , great bowling
 
Pure Pakistani performance.

They restricted their runs significantly and that led to poor shots being played.
 
All credit to Sarfraz, everything he has touched turned to goal, genius captaincy and a masterstroke to bring in spinners early..

Reverse swing has been an potent weapon and scare the opposition..

Both Junaid and Shadab have been outstanding...
 
Thank you Pakistan for kicking England out.

Now the equation seems lot smoother.
 
i just know inzi must be fired for selecting azhar, wahab, amir, imad and not selecting sohail/rumman
 
Mamoon said:
Plenty of soft dismissals so I'd say it's more of a choke. England have made us look better than we have been.
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Soft? More like calculated. We've done our homework very well, and we're reaping the rewards.
 
England is a mentally weak team. However, you can put Sachin, Viv and Ponting out there and they would struggle against the superb bowling display today. Let's not forget the dropped catches and unfair umpiring decisions that this attack has suffered from.
 
pakistan never let england settle down great captaincy by sarfaraz to change bowlers timely. Go on pakistan.. England look so clue less
 
Great out-cricket from Pakistan that has taken England by surprise.

There is however still a good chance for England to win. They have defended similar totals on difficult pitches. Need some early wickets.
 
TalhaSyed said:
Our bowlers destroyed SA - it was called a South African choke

Our bowlers ran through SL - it was a Sri Lankan choke

Now Pakistani bowlers showing their class against England - and people are suggesting that England are choking

MashAllah the bowlers have really stepped up after the India game and they should be given full credit. Brilliant bowling, applying constant pressure and no real weak links in the bowling unit at the moment is the reason the bowlers have done so well MashAllah.

When the likes of Hasan, Junaid, Amir, Shadab etc. are on fire - they are an absolute handful for any batting line up as they have proved in this competition mashAllah.
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We're gonna win the CT and these fake Pakistanis will do everything they can to undermine our performance.

Disgusting.
 
Pakistan's bowling has come to the fore.

South Africa and Sri Lanka were also taken apart by the same attack.
 
superb Pakistan bowling, fielding and captaincy..

credit goes to team management... no one could believe we had three debutants for this all important champions trophy event and still going..
 
Big credit to Pakistan bowling here, as well as the captaincy. The only gifted wicket was Root's and even that one was maybe slightly earned. Getting Hales out early was extremely important. Once England didn't have an explosive start, the middle order felt pressure to score runs, first against spinners (especially off-spin to left handers), and the frustrated middle order got out trying to get some boundaries after staying for several deliveries. The pace of the inning simply didn't match Buttler's and Moin's style of play. Then excellent death bowling again gave English lower order no respite.

Pakistan bowled superbly.

They can still however lose the game easily because of their batsmen's lack of composure, but they have given themselves best chances to win. Let's see.
 
Pakistan has bowled superbly to a man incredible performance.

The pitch helped us and caught england by surprise who have been batting on bhattas all tournament n they have shown that they struggle on tracks that help bowlers.

for sure england under performed but pakistan deserve most of the credit
 
What's the reason to call it a choke? You have to sometime give credit to bowlers and teams. You can't always say that one team is winning due to another team choking. Choke gets overused in PP.

It's simply a good performance from Pakistan. Sure, one team will have a bad day, but you still need to capitalize on that.
 
PAK has played like they're the favorite. Simple as that.

No choke involved here.

ENG has been outplayed from ball one.
 
England hit ZERO sixes in 49.5 overs
Pakistan hit FIRST six in 0.4 overs

:misbah
 
This is a ridiculous performance.

I'm still not sure what is happening ... most complete performance (thus far) in over a decade.
 
I have to admit, I was very scared of England and England was the only team that scared me. Last time due to T20 experience we trumped them over and England was a conservative ODI team back then. Im happy to see Pakistan destroy them today. Im sure this trophy is ours once again :gayle
 
Well for the first time in who knows how long, Pakistan actually completely dominated a game. And full credit to them. I don't know why this team is so bipolar though. Would've beaten anyone today.
 
Pakistan zindabad !! Slap on the face of people who were making videos telling PCB the way to mobe forward LOL
 
By the way what happened to the enquiry that PCB was going to conduct for defeat against India in the first match ?:angelo
 
We bowled very well, dried off the runs and that caused them to play bad shots. All credit to the bowlers. Didn't let the England innings take off at any point.
 
Not a choke as such. England were outclassed, outsmarted on a pitch which had something for the bowlers. The control that the spinners provided really frustrated Root and co. and forced them to throw it away.
 
Power packed Pakistani performance, no question about it.
BTW, Bumble has gone mad on his twitter handle and he keeps on repeating it's a used and tired pitch.
 
This is Pak bowling at its best. They choked Eng for runs and not the vice versa. Am I the only one who thinks it will be a Pak BD finals. I have a feeling it is tournament of underdogs
 
Pakistan played really well.

Really shocked England got out for 211 though. There batting strength is too strong you would have thought for that, especially on a pitch while not a total pancake, was a decent batting surface.

England wasn't invincible though. While their batting and fielding is top notch, their bowling attack is rather mediocre. No proper spinner, average pacers. Their bowling is behind Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa and Pakistan IMO.
 
If Pakistan plays like this in the final they'll lift the trophy! Masterful performance all round. I would play rumaan in the final, drop a spinner. Anyways- I'm glad Pakistan proved me wrong today. Well done!
 
A mixture of both.

70% due to brilliance of Pak and 30% choke by England.

England are such kittens when it matters the most in ICC events.
 
I get disappointed with all the Pakistani fans believing in their team. After three back-to-back performances (may be not the chase in the Srilanka match), we are still trying to say the other team choked. If people still want to insist on that, in other words, we are saying that we are a significant threat to the other teams and they are coming under pressure facing us.

So, I do not understand this. On one side, we say we did not play well - the other team choked. On the other side, we are saying; we are this kick *** team due to which the other teams choke.
 
NO!! This wasn't any choke. It was a beatdown by the better team on the field. Pakistan was focused and was on a mission. Winning the toss was crucial.

England's one dimensional bowling attack was exposed. Please stop bashing Azhar from here on. Man of the Match worthy innings.

Congrats to the entire team and coaching staff. The captain can smile and speak Urdu in the press conference.
 
Aman said:
England's middle order was always going to struggle on a pitch with a bit in it. Pakistan have bowled exceptionally well.
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[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] just be yourself man. You support England and that's fine. I am proud of my roots whatever the jibes here. Pk showed Eng are pure gas today.
 
Pak bowling has been magnificent.

They have literally taken the poor batting out of the equation and to the point, even they can't spoil a win.

Credit to Sarfi is well.
 
Bilal7 said:
England is a mentally weak team. However, you can put Sachin, Viv and Ponting out there and they would struggle against the superb bowling display today. Let's not forget the dropped catches and unfair umpiring decisions that this attack has suffered from.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Just one question tho, how is England a mentally weak team? They've consistently won in the past.
 
Mamoon said:
Plenty of soft dismissals so I'd say it's more of a choke. England have made us look better than we have been.
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Buahahahaha. Keep crying. Pak pace was too hot 2 handle. It was pure fire. When pak has momentum its a different ball game.

Really amazing display.
 
Only an idiot would deem this to be a choke. England were simply outclassed by a Pakistani team on top of their game.
 
Both - England choked and Pakistani bowlers were outstanding. There is no excuse for barely crossing 200 on a pitch where the other team chased it inside 40 overs.
 
The pitch suited us more and we adjusted to it better than England. We bowled and batted brilliantly on it. Also somehow managed to field decent as well - good catches and a run out.
 
bujhee kom said:
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] just be yourself man. You support England and that's fine. I am proud of my roots whatever the jibes here. Pk showed Eng are pure gas today.
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I support Pakistan. I'm a Pakistani.
 
Finisher said:
Why was Stokes scoring so slow?
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He had no choice. Had he tried to take more risks, England wouldn't have scored 200. He did the right thing by trotting to a semi-competitive total. However, it was simply not England's day. We completely outplayed them in all departments.
 
Mamoon said:
He had no choice. Had he tried to take more risks, England wouldn't have scored 200. He did the right thing by trotting to a semi-competitive total. However, it was simply not England's day. We completely outplayed them in all departments.
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England are an undercover South Africa 2.0..manage to choke a lot of games they'd walk through if it were a bilateral.
 
Don't you have to be in a winning position to choke and throw the match away? Pakistan dominated this match from the start, so not sure how this would be even close to a choke.
 
this choke was initiated by Pakistan bowling too when Hassan hafeez and Shadab were introduced in the attack and they dried up the runs

England were cruising nicely till over 15 it's after that the run flows were dried up and England were choked by spin
 
Mamoon said:
He had no choice. Had he tried to take more risks, England wouldn't have scored 200. He did the right thing by trotting to a semi-competitive total. However, it was simply not England's day. We completely outplayed them in all departments.
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He tried his best to score. He was choked by Pakistan bowlers

Come on mate give credit where it is due

You don't have to prove yourself so hard to be a complete ______
 
Mamoon said:
He had no choice. Had he tried to take more risks, England wouldn't have scored 200. He did the right thing by trotting to a semi-competitive total. However, it was simply not England's day. We completely outplayed them in all departments.
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He didn't need to take risks when he came in at 140 odd for 4 around about the 31st over.
He could have played his normal game at that stage.
This guy who Was smashing sixes of the likes of Starc and Cummins a few days ago and now he batted till the fag end of the innings and couldn't even hit a boundary.
Jos Buttler and Stokes are 2 of the most brutal batsmen in cricket, Hit 0 boundaries between then.

His innings wasn't too bad. Mature innings from him but it didn't go to plan. Got out foxed my Hasan Ali.
 
kamz said:
He tried his best to score. He was choked by Pakistan bowlers

Come on mate give credit where it is due

You don't have to prove yourself so hard to be a complete ______
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"We completely outplayed them in all departments" sounds like due credit to me, and Stokes did try to hit a few boundaries, but he realized that it was not happening so he did the right thing by ensuring that he occupies the crease till the end so that England can take the innings to the final over instead of getting all out in 40 overs.
 
the bowling from 30 over onward was a masterclass.

i am surprised that people are surprised at this. we already played a perfect game against england the last two times we played against them in limited overs cricket.

and we are a better team from that time and england don't have stokes and woods is a shadow of his former self.
 
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