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Is Younis Khan an all-time great in Test cricket?

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One of Pakistan cricket's best ever cricketers and an excellent ambassador for Pakistan and Pakistan cricket.

How will he be remembered by fans once he retires?

An all time great or not?
 

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Just goes to show that class is permanent. Still one of the finest Test batsman in world cricket.

Happy birthday.
 
Arguably the strongest test batsman from Pak since Miandad who can score runs everywhere against all type of opponents. More importantly, a terrific person. Wishing a very happy bday to him.
 
Happy Birthday.

Not an all time great, but is easily a Pakistan great.
 
Remember the biggest turning point in his career vividly. The tour of India, him failing miserably in first 3 outings and then more than making up for that in next 2-3 outings where he probably hit 500 runs. :yk Fun cricket ever since.
 
Happy birthday Younis!

Hope I can see you performing for Pakistan for at least another 2-3 years.
 
born in 75 (his jersey number), happy 38th birthday laka :)

His career will be remembered with many "what ifs"
 
It's a shame about his ODI record, when he was capable of so much more.
 
A great guy and a very good batsman. Outside Pakistan, he is one of the most respected Pakistani crickter.
 
In the test arena hes a great! Webguru any stats please
 
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Not an ATG but definitely a great. An average of 50+ with almost 25 centuries demands that he be included with the likes of Inzi, Yousuf, Pietersen, Smith, et cetera.
 
Happy birthday :yk

No year near an ATG but definitely a test great for me. Never was the most talented batsman around but worked very hard. Averaging around the 50 mark is worthy of respect regardless of any other factor
 
Aside from his brilliant Test record, will always remember him for giving us THAT summer in 2009, culminating at Lords.

"It's fun cricket" yes sir, it is.

Happy birthday dude.
 
Yes an all time pakistan great and a brilliant person too!
 
Useless odi player, never delivered when it really mattered. Being an excellent ambassador is not a quality of a legend, performances matter too. He is a test legend horrible odi player and my complaint against him is that he goes missing when the team really needs him in pressure moments
 
Happy birthday. An all time great is hard but our great and a world class batsmen. Hew will be remembered for his fighting knocks, his great humor, his great personality, his ability to grit out even the strongest of attacks and strongest of bowlers and how he attained soo much with soo little talent proving that with applications and hard work lack of extreme talent can be passed.

Man if he can just reach 10000 test runs then he can for sure become a great contender for the ATG title.
 
Pakistani great, definitely.

The guy is respected around the world. The way he showed class with bat/attitude during last SA tour was amazing.
 
Not even close

Pakistan don't play enough tests for him to do be able to do that and he sucks in every other format
 
chacha kashmiri said:
Pakistan don't play enough tests
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Yep, hasn't played enough games to get to ATG category, should have got a lot more matches during his peak - also not at all good in ODIs which does have an affect on people's perceptions imo. A great for Pakistan, best test bat since Miandad and a great of his era but probably not more.. also probably 38. :yk
 
adzzy786 said:
In the test arena hes a great! Webguru any stats please
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* There are 5 batsmen with 4 Test centuries in 4th innings and YK is one of them other 4 are Gavaskar, Ponting, Smith and Sarwan. (all of them average 50+ in 4th innings except sarwan he average 37).

* 3 out of those 4 centuries of YK are against South Africa and one against India.

* Younis is the only Pakistani batsman with 1000+ 4th innings runs.

* He is involved in 47 century partnerships, Miandad was involved in 50 so he can break that record too.

* He got a Test century in every country except Australia.

* and there are many other records he hold in Test cricket like century on debut and most runs against Murli in an innings etc
 
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James said:
Just goes to show that class is permanent. Still one of the finest Test batsman in world cricket.

Happy birthday.
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Just goes to show that you still don't watch a lot of cricket.

Younis averages in the low 30's in Test cricket over the past 2 years or so against non minnows.
 
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Mobashir said:
Just goes to show that you still don't watch a lot of cricket.

Younis averages in the low 30's in Test cricket over the past 2 years or so against non minnows.
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Still he has two class hundreds against two of the best bowling attacks in the world. He might be inconsistent at the autumn of his career but still can have a major say when he comes to the party.


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YK is just a top Test player who is lucky that Inzamam backed him or else he was toast with a mid 30's Average at one point!India tour saved him!
 
He's definitely one of finest test batsman Pakistan ever produced, stats prove them. I think Pakistan team still needs him for next 2-3 years depending on his fitness at which I think he looks great.
 
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alberto said:
YK is just a top Test player who is lucky that Inzamam backed him or else he was toast with a mid 30's Average at one point!India tour saved him!
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That's the biggest myth about YKs career. Before that Indian tour he averaged 39.18 after 32 tests with 6 hundreds
He was the best pakistan batsman in Aus the series before. YK had two very good years at the start of his career with away hundreds in SL and NZ. He had a dip in 2003 but was too good a player not to recover from loss of form.
He made a come back against SL 04 with a match winning hundred and had good series in Aus.

If failing in one test is the criteria for a crises then every batsman would struggle to play 10 tests. People make out as if he was averaging 15 before that bangalore test in 05.

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One of the best in the world in Test cricket.

Definitely he is up there with Miandad as Pak's best.
 
he is an all time great. he was literally on opener coming in at 3 with one of the openers getting out in the first over. average of 50 is great :yk
 
Definitely a pakistan great especially in the test arena. The stats have already been discussed in the previous posts. What I like best about him is his integrity and loyalty towards Pakistan. Also he is a gentleman on and off the field. He has a WC to his credit and I really hope that he gets to play 100 tests atleast. It maybe difficult to break Miandad's record though
 
Think he is around 38 or 39

Excellent batsman, certainly one of the top 7 Pakistani batsmen of all time
 
I think he will be remembered for making a classical partnering duo with Mohammad Yousaf. I mean these two together always brought out Pakistan from tough situations. He will be remembered by me for being part of one of the best middle order batsmen Pakistan ever had. Him, Inzi, Yousaf sound Iconic.
 
Zohaib Shah said:
I think he will be remembered for making a classical partnering duo with Mohammad Yousaf. I mean these two together always brought out Pakistan from tough situations. He will be remembered by me for being part of one of the best middle order batsmen Pakistan ever had. Him, Inzi, Yousaf sound Iconic.
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Its a pity Misbah didn't play in the same line-up as the other three. Would have been a very strong middle-order.
 
My favourite current Pak player after Afridi. There's really nothing to dislike with him.
 
Yes, ATG he won world t20, has scored plenty against all country and is a role model for many upcoming batsmen.
 
Not an all time great but a worldclass batsman and a very fine player who is underrated. In the second tier of batsmen below the atg's along with Sanga, Vvs and Chanderpaul.
 
He shall be a remembered as a wonderful Test player; one of the best bats from Pakistan, one of the best fielders that Pakistan has had, and as the man who captained Pakistan to a T-20 world cup victory at the end of his career.

Pretty decent legacy if you ask me.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Happy Birthday.

Not an all time great, but is easily a Pakistan great.
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I'd go with this. he belongs in the bracket with Dravid, S Waugh, Chanderpaul. National treasures to their country but probably not quite in the all nations, all time greats discussion.
 
Maybe not ATG, but certainly a Pakistani great and one of the best batsmen of this era.

Happy Birthday old man!
 
All time great is stretching it, but he's definitely one of Pakistan's finest batsmen.

A Pakistani great with ease.

Younus, Yousuf, and Inzi. What a middle order that was.
 
WebGuru said:
* There are 5 batsmen with 4 Test centuries in 4th innings and YK is one of them other 4 are Gavaskar, Ponting, Smith and Sarwan. (all of them average 50+ in 4th innings except sarwan he average 37).

* 3 out of those 4 centuries of YK are against South Africa and one against India.

* Younis is the only Pakistani batsman with 1000+ 4th innings runs.

* He is involved in 47 century partnerships, Miandad was involved in 50 so he can break that record too.

* He got a Test century in every country except Australia.

* and there are many other records he hold in Test cricket like century on debut and most runs against Murli in an innings etc
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Webguru your a genius! Also I read a post that said he doesn't deliever, if thats the case why has he got 4 4th innings centuries.
 
wrongun said:
I'd go with this. he belongs in the bracket with Dravid, S Waugh, Chanderpaul. National treasures to their country but probably not quite in the all nations, all time greats discussion.
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No, a level below Dravid and Waugh certainly.

belongs with Chanderpaul, but then again Chanderpaul has a better ODI record.

Younis and Jayawardene are strikingly similar, but Jayawardene is a bit more pleasing to the eye and has played some quality knocks in ODIs and on big occasions in spite of averaging a touch above Younis.

Dravid and Waugh weren't great ODI batsmen either but they were clearly superior to Younis in Tests.
 
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Top test batsman and definitely a Pakistani great and a really nice person.

HBD YK
 
The only pakistani player i like. After Wasim akram. He is a gentleman off the field.
 
Mamoon_ said:
No, a level below Dravid and Waugh certainly.

belongs with Chanderpaul, but then again Chanderpaul has a better ODI record.

Younis and Jayawardene are strikingly similar, but Jayawardene is a bit more pleasing to the eye and has played some quality knocks in ODIs and on big occasions in spite of averaging a touch above Younis.

Dravid and Waugh weren't great ODI batsmen either but they were clearly superior to Younis in Tests.
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Younis is a level below Steve Waugh. Not sure about Dravid, Dravid himself wasn't very good vs Australia or SA, two of the toughest attacks he faced.
 
adzzy786 said:
Webguru your a genius! Also I read a post that said he doesn't deliever, if thats the case why has he got 4 4th innings centuries.
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All 4th innings tons were on Patta tracks in drawn matches, guess what he has zero tons in 4th innings in a won match.
 
He and Misbah are the players Pakistan youngsters should look up to. Very dignified person. Happy Birthday :yk
 
he belongs in the bracket with Dravid, S Waugh, Chanderpaul.
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No way in hell is he anyway equal to Dravid, let alone S Waugh.

Waugh Sr is comfortably a better bat than rest of the 3 bats mentioned in your post.
 
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He's an excellent player and would make a Pakistan all time test XI. However he would have no shot at making a all time world xi or even a world test xi from the past 40 or 20 years.

The likes of Ponting, Tendulkar, Lara, Kallis, Sobers, Steve Waugh, Border and several others would be picked in a test xi before him.
 
A world class Test batsmen and a joke of an ODI batsmen. Thats how his career should be seen.
 
Top class players and massively underrated. One of the select few capable of playing home and away.
Unfortunately Pakistan dont play enough Test matches to give him the recognition he deserves. He is easily in the top 6-8 players currently playing Tests. And happy birthday to him
 
Happy B'day to him, however I think he is a great not an ATG, for that you need to be really special :sachin
 
cant stop myself from bumping this thread! let the debate start again!!! for me he is ATG and i dont need to convince others :P
 
He is a 'great' in Pak cricket. Overall a good batsman. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there are a very few cricketers whom I have as much or more respect for than this man. One of the finest ambassadors of Pak cricket in it's entire history.
 
Apart from being a great batsman, also great by his on/off field conduct.
Never heard anything controversial about him.
 
Younis Khan turns 36 - is he an all time great?

Can anyone tell me the difference between ATG and Pakistani great? Plz :)
 
How long can he carry on for? Born in 75 (according to YK himself) so at 38 he's pretty old. Even legends like Ponting and Tendulkar struggled once they got to their late 30s. Alternatively players like Misbah and Chanderpaul carry on as if being 38/39 is nothing.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
How long can he carry on for? Born in 75 (according to YK himself) so at 38 he's pretty old. Even legends like Ponting and Tendulkar struggled once they got to their late 30s. Alternatively players like Misbah and Chanderpaul carry on as if being 38/39 is nothing.
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Tendulkar and Ponting by nature were attacking players and this would lead to their downfall when their powers began to wane, Misbah and Chanderpaul don't attack as much hence they have been successful.
 
Not an all time great - there should really be only very few of those. But definitely one of Pakistan's best ever cricketers.
 
zabalestmsm said:
Can anyone tell me the difference between ATG and Pakistani great? Plz :)
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VVS Laxman an Indian 'great', but not an 'All Time Great'. Brian Lara a West Indian 'great' as well as an 'All Time Great'.
 
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Defo right up there with the likes of Miandad and Inzi . Has one of the best 4th innings records ever too
 
Younis Khan turns 36 - is he an all time great?

Not an ATG. But for me he is the best Test batsman in history of Pakistan cricket. Period.
 
I think he is one of the finest cricketers out there. well respected and dignified despite all that has happened to him. Not an all time great but definitely a very fine batsman. i would really like to see him get 30 centuries or close to 10,000 runs before he is an undisputed all time great but he is definitely heading in that direction. lets hope he stays fit and hungry for runs.
 
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